**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 11 02:59:58 2006 Aug 11 03:22:53 I _might_ have an extra nslu2 to give a developer. Aug 11 07:43:54 * Hak5Darren pokes #nslu2-general Aug 11 09:33:41 morning channel, anyone about? Aug 11 09:59:53 lunchtime Aug 11 10:12:40 indeed Aug 11 17:29:24 if i have 6.8 firmware on, and i want to try out 5.x can i just run the 5.x bin from the linksys web interface, or do i have to go back to original linksys fw first? Aug 11 17:37:15 barnseenio, you couldn't run a firmware change from the webif, its disabled in unslug-6.8, so, out the nslu2 in upgrade mode, and use the sercomm or the upslug(2) tool Aug 11 17:37:30 s/out/put/ Aug 11 17:37:31 caplink811_log meant: barnseenio, you couldn't run a firmware change from the webif, its disabled in unslug-6.8, so, put the nslu2 in upgrade mode, and use the sercomm or the upslug(2) tool Aug 11 17:37:56 oh, its disabled? the web if shows the option to me Aug 11 17:38:01 but it does nothing? Aug 11 17:39:07 i'll have to check the web for upgrade mode etc, its not something ive tried yet Aug 11 17:41:27 depending on your workstation os plattform, you'll need sercomm (windows) or upslug/upslug2 (linux), and you should read the wiki page http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheResetButtonToEnterUpgradeMode Aug 11 17:47:20 thanks, im on a windows pc here Aug 11 17:48:01 redboot access looks like a pain in the anus Aug 11 21:29:04 anyone know if its possible to get reiserfs running on a non-system disk when using debianslug? Aug 11 22:40:39 anyone useed sercomm firmware updater in windows xp? Aug 11 23:57:03 anyone alive can tell me how, when ive unslung using 5.x firmware i can confirm whether its running from internal flash or hd? Aug 11 23:58:48 you can tell from the webinterface Aug 11 23:58:57 it says at the bottom "running from flash" Aug 11 23:59:05 nope, thats 6.x Aug 12 00:00:11 barnseenio: login via telnet or ssh? Aug 12 00:00:32 then execute df Aug 12 00:00:39 or mount Aug 12 00:00:55 and Aug 12 00:00:58 how do i know Aug 12 00:00:59 ah, but have you enabled telnet server yet? Aug 12 00:01:03 it looks similar-ish! Aug 12 00:01:10 paste it here Aug 12 00:01:12 # df Aug 12 00:01:12 Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on Aug 12 00:01:12 rootfs 6528 5316 1212 81% / Aug 12 00:01:12 /dev/mtdblock4 6528 5316 1212 81% / Aug 12 00:01:12 /dev/sda1 384403504 44164 380454020 0% /share/hdd/data Aug 12 00:01:12 /dev/sda2 116661 4142 111315 4% /share/hdd/conf Aug 12 00:01:27 doesnt have that dev state stuff Aug 12 00:01:40 and your configuration was supposed to be like? Aug 12 00:01:45 hardware Aug 12 00:01:57 sure, 400gb usb disk on disk1 Aug 12 00:02:02 port1 Aug 12 00:02:35 cd / Aug 12 00:02:36 df . Aug 12 00:02:41 before i unslung a df looked like this Aug 12 00:02:42 [01:11] <@bb> Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on Aug 12 00:02:42 [01:11] <@bb> rootfs 6528 5308 1220 81% / Aug 12 00:02:42 [01:11] <@bb> /dev/mtdblock4 6528 5308 1220 81% / Aug 12 00:02:42 [01:11] <@bb> /dev/mtdblock4 6528 5308 1220 81% /dev.state Aug 12 00:02:42 [01:11] <@bb> /dev/mtdblock4 6528 5308 1220 81% /var.state Aug 12 00:02:43 [01:11] <@bb> /dev/sda1 384403504 32840 380465344 0% /share/hdd/data Aug 12 00:02:45 [01:11] <@bb> /dev/sda2 116661 4142 111315 4% /share/hdd/conf Aug 12 00:02:48 and paste the line Aug 12 00:03:15 hmm Aug 12 00:03:16 # df . Aug 12 00:03:16 Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on Aug 12 00:03:16 rootfs 6528 5316 1212 81% / Aug 12 00:03:19 not looking good Aug 12 00:03:21 your root system is still on the flash barnseenio Aug 12 00:03:22 actually paste the mount output Aug 12 00:03:31 seems so Aug 12 00:03:37 mtdblock4 Aug 12 00:03:41 mtdblock4 is flash, yeah Aug 12 00:03:42 # mount Aug 12 00:03:43 /dev/mtdblock4 on / type jffs2 (rw) Aug 12 00:03:43 /proc on /proc type proc (rw) Aug 12 00:03:43 usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) Aug 12 00:03:44 /dev/sda1 on /share/hdd/data type ext3 (rw) Aug 12 00:03:44 /dev/sda2 on /share/hdd/conf type ext3 (rw,sync) Aug 12 00:03:47 ffs Aug 12 00:03:54 that was slung using 5.5 fw Aug 12 00:04:07 bedtime! cya Aug 12 00:04:25 this is demoralising Aug 12 00:04:27 barnseenio: so you unsling? Aug 12 00:04:44 yes tried 6.x and 5.5 now on both ports Aug 12 00:05:05 i guess its just the disk thats not good for it Aug 12 00:05:43 wonder whether openslug or debianslug would be any different results, or im best trying the memory stick route Aug 12 00:05:59 I'd first see and look the right files exist on your hdd Aug 12 00:06:59 oh? seems unlikely the unsling failed? it looked right with the 6.x, i havent looked at the files with the 5 ver Aug 12 00:07:28 # ls -a /share/hdd/data Aug 12 00:07:28 . .. .sda1root .unslung bin Aug 12 00:07:28 dev etc home initrd lib Aug 12 00:07:28 linuxrc lost+found mnt opt proc Aug 12 00:07:29 public quota.user quota.user~ sbin share Aug 12 00:07:29 tmp unslung upload usr var Aug 12 00:07:30 and you did format the drive in between? Aug 12 00:08:01 yup, i even pissed about trying to format to ntfs, then back to ext3 via web interface like some ppl suggested on wiki Aug 12 00:08:35 how many times you've tried booting without success? Aug 12 00:09:01 maybe 3 times with each firmware/port combination Aug 12 00:09:27 well, with my memstick I had to reboot several times to get the correct result Aug 12 00:09:41 three wasn't necessarily enough Aug 12 00:10:09 and you would have to do this everytime you restart your slug? Aug 12 00:10:13 often Aug 12 00:10:20 sweet bejesus Aug 12 00:10:21 but I didn't reboot it so often Aug 12 00:10:39 like uptime is 48days now - no memstick though Aug 12 00:11:24 so I'm glad it wasn't any windows machine ;P Aug 12 00:12:07 oh? Aug 12 00:12:33 meaning way too many reboots while installing stuff etc Aug 12 00:12:50 i see, i get great uptime on this windows box Aug 12 00:13:05 try installing drivers... Aug 12 00:13:27 no thanks ;-) Aug 12 00:15:14 so it was just the casing you bought? that freecom Aug 12 00:15:20 4th restart Aug 12 00:15:35 ? Aug 12 00:15:39 or did it include hdd Aug 12 00:15:47 ah, yes full thing Aug 12 00:15:51 external usb disk Aug 12 00:16:32 but couldn't you buy some cheap but proven to work casing and move the hdd? Aug 12 00:16:41 so is this 'catching the disk' problem of booting from non internal flash a known problem? Aug 12 00:16:53 memory stick solution sounds easier Aug 12 00:17:06 you might need to use several stick then Aug 12 00:17:12 to find compatible Aug 12 00:17:51 all just seems to hit and miss Aug 12 00:17:55 in that case avoid Kingston DataTraveler 1GB Aug 12 00:17:58 *so Aug 12 00:17:59 it works but not all the time Aug 12 00:20:13 i guess i'll try a stick, then i'll flash back to linksys fw, and give up on all this shit Aug 12 00:20:39 I'm sorry :-\ this really is a handy machine Aug 12 00:20:59 yeah, just my bad luck with the hd i guess Aug 12 00:21:00 for which purposes you were planning this for? Aug 12 00:21:41 video/audio stream, irssi, ftp Aug 12 00:22:03 think openslug/debian would be any different bootup process? Aug 12 00:22:31 I'm not able to say Aug 12 00:23:59 you should check http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/database Aug 12 00:24:14 to see if the drive really is on a blacklist there Aug 12 00:24:20 # cd /share/hdd/conf/ Aug 12 00:24:20 # du Aug 12 00:24:20 12 ./lost+found Aug 12 00:24:20 1 ./tmp Aug 12 00:24:20 1 ./upgrade Aug 12 00:24:20 1 ./config Aug 12 00:24:22 4 ./share Aug 12 00:24:24 29 . Aug 12 00:24:26 yes i read that already Aug 12 00:24:29 two freecom entries Aug 12 00:24:34 one says good , one bad Aug 12 00:24:39 neither are my model Aug 12 00:25:44 but not good omen though Aug 12 00:26:13 what's your model? Aug 12 00:26:17 no idea, all seems rather hit and miss Aug 12 00:26:29 freecom 400gb external usb hd Aug 12 00:26:45 it doesnt say 'classic' or whatever is in that database Aug 12 00:26:52 its a samsung disk inside Aug 12 00:29:18 have you tried disabling the power saving features of the drive? Aug 12 00:29:41 not sure how Aug 12 00:32:14 PC: Disable the system's power management if necessary.("Start"-"System Control"-"Energy Management"). Aug 12 00:32:14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aug 12 00:32:14 Page 13 Aug 12 00:32:14 13GB4FREECOM Internet ServiceFREECOM Technologies makes the following service available in the Internet atwww.freecom.com? Online information on technical problems? Current product information? 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The revision no. of your driver diskette (CD)? Information located on the power pack? T Aug 12 00:32:25 he version number of your operating system and the software you are havingproblems with? A precise description of the error and any error messaged displayed? The name and model of your computer and any installed hardware? Can the problem be reproduced every time?? Has this problem occurred before? If it is a new problem, did you recentlychange your system configuration?FREECOM Internet Service Aug 12 00:32:30 oops apologies Aug 12 00:32:30 btw...this is the _channel_ Aug 12 00:32:49 apparently there is a management disk Aug 12 00:32:56 not sure where it is though Aug 12 00:34:07 found disk Aug 12 00:36:50 anything useful there? Aug 12 00:38:45 lol Aug 12 00:38:52 some crummy backup software Aug 12 00:38:59 and a 'personal media suite' Aug 12 00:39:28 basically rubbish Aug 12 00:40:41 of course unslung would offer you hdparm... :-\ Aug 12 00:42:35 well Aug 12 00:42:42 im giving up Aug 12 00:42:47 or any linux machine Aug 12 00:42:49 memory stick is last resort Aug 12 00:42:58 you wouldn't have any access to such? Aug 12 00:42:59 i'll research which ones are suited this weekend Aug 12 00:43:11 i dont Aug 12 00:44:05 there are liveCDs and such which boot straight from CD/DVD and include quite many handy utils Aug 12 00:44:15 I'm sure one of'em includes hdparm Aug 12 00:44:30 even then were not sure it will help Aug 12 00:44:44 that might do the trick though Aug 12 00:47:44 but hdparm changing bios settings of hd? or just sending commands to do stuff Aug 12 00:49:14 I believe the settings stays Aug 12 00:49:27 im not so sure Aug 12 00:49:31 how come? Aug 12 00:49:55 why else would manufacturers publish tools which are ran under dos to modify these things? Aug 12 00:50:09 cos typically you script hdparm to do stuff to a disk? Aug 12 00:50:47 well, im not sure - sure there are tools for changing bios settings, im just not sure hdparm is it Aug 12 00:52:21 well, I've used hdparm to change few params before I inserted the drive into my Topfield 5100C DVB and it worked fine Aug 12 00:52:28 also same with xbox Aug 12 00:52:55 ahk, sorry my misunderstanding then Aug 12 00:54:04 although you might be right Aug 12 00:55:18 k, bed Aug 12 00:55:23 thanks for help thus far! Aug 12 00:55:35 laters **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 12 02:59:56 2006