**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 03 02:59:57 2006 Sep 03 03:46:01 anyone played with squid yet? Sep 03 04:50:51 Cant someone help me get scsi-idle working on the slug? Sep 03 04:51:37 NCommander, what's the problem? Sep 03 04:51:54 Well, I installed scsi-idle following the directions Sep 03 04:51:59 It works correctly when I call it manually Sep 03 04:52:12 But it doesn't automatically enter idle at the time duration Is et Sep 03 04:53:22 What kernel, OS are you running on the slug (openslug, debianslug, so on) Sep 03 04:53:44 Openslug, latest binary on the site, stock general Sep 03 04:53:48 Overclocked to 266 Sep 03 04:54:04 I'm going to assume that your are talking about method 3 on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/SpinDownUSBHarddisks#method3 Sep 03 04:54:15 yeah Sep 03 04:54:28 The shell script didn't work for me at all, but the perl script does, so I'm using that Sep 03 04:55:24 No kernel patch then? Sep 03 04:55:50 Yeah Sep 03 04:55:56 Really don't want to have to compile a new kernel Sep 03 04:55:58 I don't own a linux box Sep 03 04:56:08 So I'd be building on the slug Sep 03 04:56:23 So if the perl script works, why not run it from init and then check that it is still running from cron? Sep 03 04:57:17 It doesnt' say to run it from cron Sep 03 04:57:26 I never used the scsi-idle package Sep 03 04:57:42 I didn't say to run it from cron. I said to check that it is still running from cron. Sep 03 04:58:08 I've never used the package either. There's never been a USB hard drive attached to my Slug. Sep 03 04:58:18 Well, the script is running on the slug Sep 03 04:58:29 (I see two instances, one for each drie) Sep 03 04:58:58 Then start the script in a rc file. Sep 03 04:59:17 Alright Sep 03 04:59:32 I need to wait a bit before I try that, but that might just do it Sep 03 04:59:44 I just suggested that you write a script that you run in cron to check to make sure that it is working. Sep 03 05:00:02 I think it's possible the script might not be getting a chance to work Sep 03 05:00:13 Don't know. Sep 03 05:00:16 (it won't run if the drive is run in the last x minutes) Sep 03 05:00:32 Thanks joshin, at least you gave me some help getting on the right track Sep 03 05:00:38 I'll update the wiki if/when I figure this out Sep 03 05:01:14 BTW, VMWare has some free software that you can use to create a virtual linux box on your PC. Makes for an easy way to do both without losing the gaming ability of Windows. Sep 03 05:01:31 No problem NCommander, glad I could provide a lead. :) Sep 03 05:05:25 joshin: I use a Mac Sep 03 05:05:29 makes this just a tad harder ;-) Sep 03 05:05:40 I might just finally build a cross-compiler and use distcc Sep 03 05:05:50 NCommander, x86 or PPC? Sep 03 05:06:05 x86, no Windows Sep 03 05:06:16 I will install Linux at some point Sep 03 05:06:22 But not something I'm looking forward to Sep 03 05:06:26 NCommander, I think that you can get openembedded to build natively on OSX Sep 03 05:06:47 I've tried to do it in the past Sep 03 05:06:50 It's ... twichy Sep 03 05:07:16 To be honest, I'm a BSD guy myself Sep 03 05:07:29 If I knew anything about kernel programming, I'd ported NetBSD to my slug and use that ;-) Sep 03 05:07:39 Me too. Used to run the Ops for Hotmail and left when MSFT made us move from FreeBSD to Win2K Sep 03 05:07:50 Though now I'm much more OS agnostic. Sep 03 05:07:59 They all have their merits. Sep 03 05:08:09 Well, I dislike Linux because the design a little hogpog Sep 03 05:08:11 http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/BuildOnOSX Sep 03 05:08:30 Remember, BSD and LSD both came out of Berkeley. This is no coincidence. Sep 03 05:08:35 ROFL Sep 03 05:08:39 * NCommander puts that on bash.org Sep 03 05:08:47 FreeBSD and like have proper Driver APIs, and NetBSD goes one step father by asbtracting connection layers so the same driver can be used for different connectors Sep 03 05:08:49 Its already there. Sep 03 05:09:16 heh Sep 03 05:10:32 Generally, I use BSD for world facing servers, linux for internal servers, and Windows with a Linux virtual machine for desktops. Older laptops get linux and my toy computers dual boot (including one with OSX on it) Sep 03 05:11:29 I'd use Linux for desktop over BSD mostly because none of the BSDs have that extra bit of polish (FreeBSD has gotten better though) Sep 03 05:11:38 netBSD's installer is like Debain 1.0 Sep 03 05:11:54 OpenBSD is probably the best if you can live with using disklabel directly Sep 03 05:12:09 FreeBSD is good, but it glitched up on me once or twich Sep 03 05:12:37 I've been playing with *nix since 89 or so. Disklabel is not a problem. Sep 03 05:12:41 :) Sep 03 05:13:15 My linux machines are currently Gentoo. Since I have 8 machines around the house that can run distcc, compiling stuff is not an issue. :) Sep 03 05:13:36 Disklabel is a problem if you want just one big thing for / Sep 03 05:13:41 Or at least it was on PowerPC Sep 03 05:13:54 I needed my Ti calculator to correct the sizes cause it got messed up Sep 03 05:13:58 :) Sep 03 05:14:22 It is a pain on x86 too. Or was last year when I played with the various BSDa. Sep 03 05:14:32 ^BSDa^BSDs Sep 03 05:14:35 I want to try Dragonfly or FreeBSD again Sep 03 05:14:45 Anyhow, bedtime here. Good night (here) and good luck! Sep 03 05:15:45 thanks Sep 03 05:22:44 anyone here ever try to build firmware from source code linksys provides? Sep 03 06:24:08 CCFL_Man: it's not possible, while all the source code is provided, there are no tools to compile it into the image Sep 03 07:19:26 Having trouble... Unslung successfully onto disk1, when booting to NSLU with no disk, telnet login is root and the password i set up during unslinging. But, when I boot with disk1 attached uNSLUng or my password do not work. What to do??? Sep 03 07:22:17 oops. back now anyone here to help??? Sep 03 07:24:36 can someone help a noob out here? Sep 03 07:30:35 I've been trying to install using debian-installer, but during the installation process get an "No kernel modules were found." ... -error. Any one know anything about this? Sep 03 07:37:23 I just run openslug, why do you want debian? Sep 03 07:44:49 There seems to bee more packages available in debian. Sep 03 07:45:10 NSLU2-IRC: That's true, but 90% of what I need is in openslug Sep 03 07:45:28 The noticable difference being that no one has packaged CUPS yet, but that can be installed with a little elbow grease Sep 03 07:47:29 What made me want to choose debian is that I have 2 usb disk that I want to be able to put into suspend, and that seems to be able to do easily with the eject command, and I could not find it in openslug... Sep 03 07:47:50 NSLU2-IRC: umount *drive mount point* Sep 03 07:47:53 Unplug drive Sep 03 07:47:55 Done Sep 03 07:48:12 eject usually is for causing a CD tray to open Sep 03 07:48:50 Nope, that only unmounts, it does not make the drive spin down (depends on USB-hd-case) Sep 03 07:49:28 use scsi-idle Sep 03 07:49:31 Ejects works very nicely, at least on Ubuntu which also is debian Sep 03 07:49:47 That's a feature of ATA drives Sep 03 07:49:53 I've NEVER seen a USB drive do that with eject Sep 03 07:50:03 Well, mine do! Sep 03 07:50:09 *shrugs* Sep 03 07:50:13 Anyway, scsi-idle can do what you need Sep 03 07:50:19 After unmounting Sep 03 07:50:28 scsi-idle /dev/*letter* 0 Sep 03 07:50:37 And it will spin down Sep 03 07:50:59 Alteratively Sep 03 07:51:11 Compile the eject sourcecode yourself on the slug: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/eject/eject_2.0.13deb.orig.tar.gz Sep 03 07:51:22 Ok, that was new information. Thanks! I think I've tried to look for scsi-idel before... Sep 03 07:51:39 It's not in the openslug feed Sep 03 07:51:46 Its on the mailing list, in the Files section Sep 03 07:52:07 Given the fact that eject does what you want, I'd just compile it Sep 03 07:52:14 Just install slugos-native, and your good to go Sep 03 07:53:10 Hmm, I think I'll give it a try then! Sep 03 07:57:17 good luck then Sep 03 13:11:43 Hi there, do anybody knows why my slug's (Unslung 6.8) init runs at 99.9%? Sep 03 15:45:59 hi, any openslug users here? Sep 03 15:51:15 hello? Sep 03 16:00:51 hello? Sep 03 16:04:40 ok just incase some of you lot come back Sep 03 16:04:48 the OpenSLug feeds are broken, badly Sep 03 16:05:00 just did an ipkg update && ipkg update Sep 03 16:05:29 and it d/l all the new updates (kernel stuff and some others) and when it was on the 3rd package being comfigured lots of errors and broke out Sep 03 16:05:39 then alot of commands would not work (ls, ipkg...) Sep 03 16:05:44 a reboot and it wont boot! Sep 03 16:12:14 well booting without the HD can gain me access to the Linux on the flash so it is good Sep 03 16:12:32 but still cannot from the HD Sep 03 16:23:58 i'm o;enslugger... Sep 03 16:24:09 but in and out, brb Sep 03 16:35:44 hi Sep 03 16:35:54 I have a problem with openvpn Sep 03 16:36:00 look at this Sep 03 16:36:06 http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Mp4IKw72.html Sep 03 16:36:13 someting with tun Sep 03 16:36:27 but I dont know how to fix it :) Sep 03 16:37:34 any ide´s Sep 03 16:39:24 NAiL: ping? Sep 03 16:39:47 lcdproc updates went here: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1381 Sep 03 16:40:13 sent a link to the mailing list but the message had to be approved (??) so it isn't there yet Sep 03 16:41:28 hello? Sep 03 16:41:39 hello Sep 03 16:41:57 anyone else using openslug had a big problem with a update today? Sep 03 16:42:02 ie wont boot or work Sep 03 16:42:15 no, but updates have been happening Sep 03 16:42:20 what did you do? Sep 03 16:42:26 ipkg update Sep 03 16:42:32 ipgk upgrade Sep 03 16:42:36 Naib: yes Sep 03 16:42:43 what was updated? Sep 03 16:42:46 results here Sep 03 16:42:49 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/14958 Sep 03 16:43:09 blaster8, kernel plus some other stuff (samba,init scripts...) Sep 03 16:43:14 and libc Sep 03 16:44:09 oh sheesh Sep 03 16:44:17 this stuff must not have been tested, I guess Sep 03 16:44:27 lmao, well it did get tested on me Sep 03 16:44:38 I have had worse (gentoo user) Sep 03 16:45:18 I can't tell you what exactly broke Sep 03 16:45:18 http://trac.nslu2-linux.org/slugos/timeline Sep 03 16:45:42 I can tell you that I think the policy for building feeds isn't up to scratch, in my opinion Sep 03 16:46:22 they should be built from a clean tree, to make sure there isn't breakage Sep 03 16:46:33 Well I think I will just leave it off (since it don't work) and when the feed is sorted will re-sling it and start from scratch Sep 03 16:47:04 when NAiL gets back he should fix it Sep 03 16:47:21 ahh the one that changed glibc.... Sep 03 16:48:14 personally, if I was not running Unslung, I would build cross-compile packages myself Sep 03 16:48:36 I know it's inconvenient, but you have a much better handle on whether it works or not Sep 03 16:48:46 plus you have some hope of being able to fix any problems Sep 03 16:48:56 but how do you re-direct ipkg to point to yr builds Sep 03 16:49:02 easily Sep 03 16:49:09 I have compiled a couple of things Sep 03 16:49:22 just make your own feed and add a webserver sharing it over your lan Sep 03 16:49:24 openssh so that TCP-wrappers works and blocks at a hack attack Sep 03 16:49:31 then point ipkg to that web server Sep 03 16:49:37 how can I cross-compile for 3.10 (ie not the head)? Sep 03 16:49:46 also easy - two ways Sep 03 16:49:59 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile Sep 03 16:50:16 blaster8, I copied the ipk files (via samba) to the slug and ipgk them directly. Sep 03 16:50:20 see the openslug-%-beta targets Sep 03 16:50:32 I might look at setting up a feed since I have httpd on it as well Sep 03 16:50:33 I will check Sep 03 16:50:47 they grab a specific release (rather than HEAD) set it up in a separate directory and built it there Sep 03 16:50:57 thx Sep 03 16:51:06 Alternatively, run debian Sep 03 16:51:18 this is what I have (debian) Sep 03 16:51:27 blaster8, Sep 03 16:51:30 allo Sep 03 16:51:43 osas: run debian and don't run ipkg update then :p ;) Sep 03 16:51:47 blaster8, but last time I looked at debian there was a silly partition order, I already have 40gig on there Sep 03 16:52:05 Oh ... sorry for the confusion - I was building on debian Sep 03 16:52:13 Naib: Good nslu2 debian support should come with the official release of etch in december Sep 03 16:52:48 blaster8, cool, I moved from unlsung since the file-structure did my head in BUT didn't goto deb due to that partition problem Sep 03 16:53:10 I personally try to run ucslugc Sep 03 16:53:10 if a good release (ie can choose / is out in dec ill concider the switch Sep 03 16:54:21 Naib: I think etch on NSLU2 has a lot of potential Sep 03 16:54:46 what about the ethernet drivers? Sep 03 16:54:53 it's in the pipeline Sep 03 16:55:00 k Sep 03 16:55:28 the major downfall of openslug is lack of packages, but the deb should fill that gap Sep 03 16:55:36 yup Sep 03 16:55:49 1,00hi Sep 03 16:56:21 1,00searching for a list of working usb-hubs for unslung, somebody got one? Sep 03 16:56:32 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel/27069 Sep 03 16:56:54 openslug shouldn't be about packaging loads of applications, I think Sep 03 16:56:59 We've got debian for that Sep 03 16:57:17 blaster8, true Sep 03 16:57:21 Get a good minimal install like Ucslugc where everything can fit in flash Sep 03 16:57:38 and a good max install like Debian where you can be really flexible Sep 03 16:57:46 and what more do you need? Sep 03 16:57:52 that's just my opinion though Sep 03 16:58:23 blaster8, all true, but it was that partition orderering thing that held me off Sep 03 16:58:32 it's being fixed, slowly Sep 03 16:58:45 and the main reason for the slowly bit was political Sep 03 16:58:47 plenty of time ;) Sep 03 16:59:03 i.e. no free ethernet drivers - not very compatible with debian philosophy Sep 03 16:59:16 but hopefully that will change Sep 03 16:59:26 well that is one thing that is a downside of debian Sep 03 16:59:57 not really - without debian there would be no complete GNU operating system really Sep 03 17:00:22 It's definitely not perfect, but Debian makes a massive difference Sep 03 17:00:53 as a kind of spear in the ground to make a statement yes it is perfect for the GNU ideology Sep 03 17:01:17 exactly Sep 03 17:01:31 whether or not we choose to stand next to them is up to us Sep 03 17:01:40 but I'm glad someone is making that stand Sep 03 17:01:47 true Sep 03 17:05:01 funny thing is I only update the feeds once every month or so Sep 03 17:05:19 I check the mail-list and someone said they having problems so like a fool I updated... Sep 03 17:06:12 I did an update too Sep 03 17:06:22 I did it in two steps Sep 03 17:06:34 the one that I did yesterday (the modules) was ok Sep 03 17:06:43 that's why I did another one today Sep 03 17:06:59 and I bite the dust :( Sep 03 17:07:05 oh well at least there is the fun of fixing it Sep 03 17:07:39 dumb questio: If I unsling on top of my already unsling-ed disk, what will happen? Sep 03 17:08:08 osas, I thought you were using openslug? Sep 03 17:08:32 well ... s/unsling/turnup/ Sep 03 17:08:53 yes, I'm using openslug Sep 03 17:08:54 lol kk Sep 03 17:09:06 i am not to sure... Sep 03 17:09:24 I don't want to lose my other stuff on that disk ... Sep 03 17:09:36 I am tempted when hte feed is fixed just to format my / partition and turnup Sep 03 17:10:17 well, silly me, my / partition has everything :( Sep 03 17:10:24 osas, oh... Sep 03 17:10:41 well that is different. I have 3partition (SWAP,ROOT,DATA) Sep 03 17:10:48 cuz I just wanted to test how it is working with my new external enclosure Sep 03 17:10:55 and my data partition gets mounted to /opt so easy to fix Sep 03 17:11:29 maybe I will upgrade my HD and re-install Sep 03 17:12:17 or turnup on a flash and re-use the existing hd as a data storage Sep 03 17:14:27 osas, not a bad plan Sep 03 17:14:39 OR depending on how much data copy it all off and partition Sep 03 17:14:58 yeah ... Sep 03 17:15:54 I need to make some data and config backups ... Sep 03 17:16:28 I think I will turnup to flash, fire up samba, backup everything and the re-partition Sep 03 17:16:43 I have a bash script that I run that does that (good jub I didn't CRON job it) Sep 03 17:17:04 so all my /etc and /home entries are in a /opt/backup (ie the other parition) Sep 03 17:18:38 good thing that I didn't upgrade my other slug that is running asterisk :p Sep 03 18:24:34 I dont get my openvpn to wpork ...sometinh is wrong with the tun Sep 03 18:24:52 # ipkg install kernel-module-tun Sep 03 18:24:52 Package kernel-module-tun (2.4.22.l2.3r63-r14) installed in root is up to date. Sep 03 18:24:52 Nothing to be done Sep 03 18:24:58 but if I do a Sep 03 18:25:18 # lsmod | grep tun Sep 03 18:25:18 # Sep 03 18:25:23 there is nothing Sep 03 18:25:35 and if I do this Sep 03 18:25:35 http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/3L2zkw99.html Sep 03 18:25:48 any good ides? Sep 03 18:27:10 plz :) Sep 03 18:46:14 modprobe tun ? Sep 03 18:47:31 it seems the feeds have been updated (well from hte web-mail) anyone know how to get a working system that was borked from the bad feeds? Sep 03 18:48:48 uhmm.. wait until the feeds get fixed again? and report the exact errors to Nail Sep 03 18:49:43 err, but if the broken feed borked my system AND the feeds have been fixed, how do I go abt resuing my SLUG? Sep 03 18:49:59 I dont really fancy re-tuning and starting from scratch (even if I have /etc backed up) Sep 03 18:51:54 can you login and use ipkg? Sep 03 18:52:34 nope it wont boot (with HD attached) Sep 03 18:52:40 feed borked th ekernel and libc Sep 03 18:52:54 without HD can boot and login to the flash-image Sep 03 18:54:48 FB[i], what happens, when you try something like, cd /lib/modules/2.4.22-xfs/kernel/drivers/net Sep 03 18:54:56 insmod tun.o Sep 03 18:54:58 ? Sep 03 19:00:01 so any idea how to get back to a working system? Sep 03 19:00:27 login without disk Sep 03 19:00:35 plug in disk Sep 03 19:00:38 k Sep 03 19:00:46 mount it on /mnt Sep 03 19:00:51 chroot /mnt /bin/sh Sep 03 19:00:52 kk Sep 03 19:01:07 and then ipkg update && ipkg upgrade Sep 03 19:01:12 nop wont work Sep 03 19:01:24 hopefully it will when feed is fixed, though Sep 03 19:01:26 ipkg wont run, that was the last error message Sep 03 19:01:38 before a boot Sep 03 19:01:57 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/14958 Sep 03 19:02:09 /LKGD718D2/home/r3m0t3# ipkg install wget Sep 03 19:02:09 bash: /usr/bin/ipkg: No such file or directory Sep 03 19:02:23 so if I chroot now, I will still get that error message wont I ? Sep 03 19:02:51 btw /usr/bin/ipkg does exist just wont run (like "ls" and a few other commands) but that was before the reboot Sep 03 19:03:14 so if I boot with no disc (that boots) and chroot I should be able to update and get things working? Sep 03 19:03:33 possibly Sep 03 19:03:53 not very encuraging words... is a re-build of / needed then? Sep 03 19:04:01 but if libc is broken, I'm not convinced Sep 03 19:04:12 ^^ thats what I thought Sep 03 19:04:22 just try it Sep 03 19:04:33 Personally, I would backup /etc, /var and any documents and resling when the feed is fixed Sep 03 19:04:53 blaster8, /etc already backup to /opt/backup Sep 03 19:05:04 where /opt is my data partition mount point Sep 03 19:05:19 good start, you may want your logs too Sep 03 19:05:20 equally /home is backed up Sep 03 19:05:53 oh well... might as well try I suppose Sep 03 19:06:32 but hey once the Debian "feature" is sorted I'm changeing Sep 03 19:06:52 feature? Sep 03 19:08:01 has to be hte 1st partition Sep 03 19:08:17 my partition scheme is 1) SWAP, 2) , 3) DATA Sep 03 19:08:29 you mean the Debian/NSLU2 ? Sep 03 19:08:31 yup Sep 03 19:08:41 i think there's a workaround for that Sep 03 19:09:17 ill wait till "etch" is released Sep 03 19:13:04 you could also try DebianSlug as an alternative, etch can be bootstrapped from DebianSlug too Sep 03 19:13:23 * Naib a bit scared... Sep 03 19:14:12 I've looked at what they are planning for etch on NSLU2 and it seems the most mature linux built for this platform Sep 03 19:14:21 Naib, why? Sep 03 19:14:21 just have to hope it all gets done Sep 03 19:14:39 EvilDevil, more to do with my data Sep 03 19:14:46 I would have to back it up first Sep 03 19:14:51 blaster8, do you have some URL? Sep 03 19:15:02 not really, just been reading mailing lists Sep 03 19:15:14 nslu2-* Sep 03 19:15:15 ? Sep 03 19:15:20 no, debian-arm Sep 03 19:15:32 and the arm kernel list Sep 03 19:15:35 ok, i'll check that Sep 03 19:15:40 to summarise: Sep 03 19:15:54 they are trying to use APEX as a second stage bootloader after redboot Sep 03 19:16:21 APEX will pass the correct machine ID and the correct boot options to the linux kernel Sep 03 19:16:39 and possibly set up the NPEs and SDRAM config correctly Sep 03 19:17:36 then the debian shipped kernel boots and you have all of the debian userspace tools as with debian slug Sep 03 19:17:47 with the added bonus of debian supplied kernel modules Sep 03 19:18:18 also, they will hopefully knock out most of the legacy sercomm stuff like headers in the flash Sep 03 19:18:22 so, the boot-sequence will be redboot->apex->debian-kernel ? Sep 03 19:18:27 basically Sep 03 19:18:41 there is already a shim in place in front of the openslug kernel Sep 03 19:19:00 but I think they will replace the shim with a fully fledged but minimal secondary bootloader Sep 03 19:19:59 http://wiki.buici.com/wiki/Apex_Bootloader Sep 03 19:20:19 1.4.5 supports booting without Sercomm headers and has been added to debian packages Sep 03 19:20:23 instead of replacing the redboot w/ apex... hmm Sep 03 19:20:40 can't replace bootloaders safely without JTAG Sep 03 19:20:52 can't use APEX at all without serial Sep 03 19:21:17 replacing bootloader is always going to be for the minority of highly competent users Sep 03 19:21:25 EvilDevil, Sep 03 19:21:25 root@LKGD718D2:/media/sda2# chroot /media/sda2 /bin/sh Sep 03 19:21:25 chroot: cannot execute /bin/sh: No such file or directory Sep 03 19:21:33 as long as the bootloader isn't misconfigured and there's no power-outage, it could be safe ;) Sep 03 19:21:59 or you could have a handy new paperweight Sep 03 19:22:10 looks like my slug is BORKED Sep 03 19:22:13 Naib, what about chroot /media/sda2 /bin/bash? or /bin/ash ? Sep 03 19:22:18 I'm probably going to flash a new bootloader at some point Sep 03 19:22:21 just tried bash Sep 03 19:22:35 and ash dont work either Sep 03 19:22:38 but they are there Sep 03 19:23:05 time to resling, sadly Sep 03 19:23:06 root@LKGD718D2:/media/sda2# ls -l /media/sda2/bin/bash Sep 03 19:23:06 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 627992 Apr 17 05:30 /media/sda2/bin/bash Sep 03 19:23:11 propably the libc? Sep 03 19:23:20 yup that what I thought :( Sep 03 19:23:37 but is it fixed? cause if I retune and the prob is still there... Sep 03 19:23:58 if you resling, you will go back to the original SlugOS 3.10 Sep 03 19:24:13 so as long as you don't ipkg upgrade you should be fine Sep 03 19:24:28 alternatively, wait for the feeds to be fixed Sep 03 19:24:37 you could try to replace all the utils to the new version which use the new libc Sep 03 19:24:54 ahh I see, just let it over-right the system stuff with the stock-3.10 version rather then newer ones Sep 03 19:25:28 but I wouldn't trust it to install any new packages from the feed until this problem is fixed Sep 03 19:26:34 blaster8, true. Naib or you could give DebianSlug a try ;) Sep 03 19:26:48 perfect timing ;) Sep 03 19:26:50 EvilDevil, err... Sep 03 19:26:55 * Naib is scared Sep 03 19:27:00 can't blame you Sep 03 19:27:05 Naib, this would at least save you some work Sep 03 19:28:23 Naib, make a back-up :) Sep 03 19:28:58 ha, that means ripping the external HD out of it entangled place and then capying 40gig onto my linux install... Sep 03 19:29:17 more worried abt the effing and blinding of ripping the HD out ;) Sep 03 19:32:26 doesn't your linux box have USB? Sep 03 19:33:03 well yer... that not the issue ;) its the hands & knees dragging the HD out of its cubby-hole Sep 03 19:33:29 plus read on the web-mail debian got some issues with the installer and best wait till the sept release Sep 03 19:39:43 that's why i suggest you to use DebianSlug instead of Debian/NSLU2 Sep 03 19:41:49 EvilDevil, so you are talking abt bootstrapping the debian-slug Sep 03 19:42:09 ie boot from Openslug and install onto it? Sep 03 19:42:27 basically, your internal flash still has openslug Sep 03 19:42:39 but you install debian onto the hard drive Sep 03 19:42:56 but doesn't that mean there is that who big/little endian problem that limits package-feeds? Sep 03 19:43:23 well, you actually need to reflash to DebianSlug, which is little-endian Openslug Sep 03 19:43:55 The only reason I am "scared" is don't know Debian (gentoo user) so more concerned with fsking something, thus the very urgent need to backup Sep 03 19:44:23 well, debian is really easy to be honest Sep 03 19:44:24 blaster8, err? so flash with Openslug, bootstrap to debian-slug, flash to Debian/NSLU2? Sep 03 19:44:29 nearly Sep 03 19:44:46 flash with DebianSlug, then bootstrap to Debian (proper) Sep 03 19:44:47 simple Sep 03 19:44:52 dear god!!! been using Linux for like 7year and I feel I am back to that 1st boot Sep 03 19:45:06 you've installed Gentoo? Sep 03 19:45:09 yer Sep 03 19:45:14 so you've 'bootstrapped' an OS Sep 03 19:45:28 true, but I am at home with Gentoo Sep 03 19:45:38 bootstrap is where, from one Linux environment, you create a second independent linux environment Sep 03 19:45:47 I will do it (been convinced) just will have to wait till the weekend to do a major backup Sep 03 19:45:56 in gentoo you do that when you install from a CD Sep 03 19:46:00 yup Sep 03 19:46:26