**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 10 02:59:57 2006 Oct 10 03:14:12 I have already asked mwester-laptop Oct 10 03:14:30 someone was helping me but left and I needed more help to do what he said Oct 10 03:16:44 http://paste.jwjkp.com/view.php?p=7 Oct 10 03:28:21 can you help me with that mwester-laptop? Oct 10 03:32:58 DrJ: No, sorry I can't -- put thanks for pasting the history; perhaps someone better-versed in PHP and such will be able to respond... Oct 10 03:33:36 :( Oct 10 03:34:08 imo, someone needs to make it so apache and php on the nslu2 can use threads Oct 10 03:34:34 * DrJ really wants a better way to manage ipkg, and I do not like the one that has already been made Oct 10 07:13:38 is anyone active? Oct 10 07:16:00 anywhoo... my shares keep getting deleted after a reboot. all thats left is the admin and disk shares Oct 10 10:41:23 Hello. Oct 10 10:41:25 With the original firmware I cant creat, edit or do anything with the user account on the slug. Oct 10 10:41:27 The error message indicates that I need a EXT3 disc and all I got is a ntfs disc. Oct 10 10:41:29 Is there any solution to this problem? Oct 10 10:41:31 Can I make a small partition with EXT3 on my disc? Oct 10 10:41:33 Or, if I change to Unslung, can I then administrate the user accounts with a NTFS disc. Oct 10 10:53:40 bad-h: you must have a "natively-formatted" device of some sort in order to do user accounts on the NSLU2 with either the Linksys or Unslung firmware. Oct 10 10:55:19 With Unslung, that device may be a very small flash memory device (512MB or larger), but it still must be natively-formatted. Oct 10 10:56:10 Also, be aware that the NTFS support in the Linksys firmware (and therefore in Unslung, since Unslung is based on the Linksys firmware) is buggy, and the device will lock up under load with NTFS disks. Oct 10 11:47:09 ok Oct 10 11:47:59 the problem is that the EXT3 can not be read by Windows directly, right? Oct 10 11:51:47 So if I get this right, I can jagck in my usb memory and format this to EXT3, then administrate the users? Oct 10 12:26:31 bad-h: you'll have to follow the instructions to flash the unslung firmware, then format the 512MB usb memory device, and perform the "unsling" operation to that flash device. Once you do that, the device will have a place to keep the security-related information to enable you to create users and passwords. Oct 10 12:28:15 But I don' t know *why* you wish to have users or user administration -- if one presumes it is so that you can have private shares on the network, then you should also be aware that NTFS disks on the NSLU2 cannot have private shares -- they are treated as if they were FAT filesystems without security by the NSLU2. If you wish to use private shares, you'll need a natively-formatted disk. Oct 10 12:31:10 Microsoft does not provide a means to read the EXT3 partitions the NSLU2 uses for its natively-formatted disks; but there do exist drivers and software that can be used to read that data on Windows. I don't use those myself; perhaps someone here knows what drivers might work, or perhaps a simple google will reveal some drivers. In general, it's a lot easier to make Windows understand Open... Oct 10 12:31:12 ...solutions such as EXT3 than to make the rest of the world understand Microsoft's highly-proprietary NTFS format. Oct 10 12:36:50 ok Oct 10 12:39:21 The reason to change user settings simple. I whish to be able to reach the discs via internet. Oct 10 12:39:21 I don't want anyone to get access to the ftp server on user: admin password:admin. Oct 10 12:39:21 In order to do this I need to change the default user settings. Oct 10 12:58:53 bad-h: I do not know how secure the built-in FTP server on the NSLU2 really is; but in general the FTP protocol is very very poor in terms of security. I would recommend that you consider the use of SSH on the NSLU2 instead -- on the Windows side, there is an excellent SSH client called PuTTY, which includes an FTP-like file copy utility (SFTP) that uses the very secure SSH copy mechanism. Oct 10 13:00:34 AFAIK, all FTP implementations will send the login id and password in the clear over the network when the session is established, and all the data is sent in the clear as well. At the very least, the id/password is a real problem if any part of the network path is via a public or an un-encrypted wireless network. Oct 10 13:01:04 s/public/public network/ Oct 10 13:01:23 * mwester-laptop wonders what happened to that bot??? Oct 10 13:01:34 ~botsnack Oct 10 13:27:18 ok, I think this issue has become somewhat over killed. But I will read som articles about SSH if I can find it :) Oct 10 13:27:19 There is no need to super secure this NSLU2. But I don't want anyone to be able to penetrating it. Having port 21 open for ftp traffic and a user with user/password: admin / admin is like no safety at all. Oct 10 13:27:21 Back to basics :) Oct 10 13:27:23 How can I format the usb disc to EXT3? Can this be done by the web gui or should I use something like partition magic? Oct 10 13:27:25 Can I format a usb stick to this format too? Diden know that a usb stick is that flexible. Oct 10 13:39:32 bah-h: I think you underestimate the threat to an open FTP port. However, do what you wish. Re: formatting -- just read the README with Unslung, or review the wiki at http://www.nslu-linux.org/ for info. Basically, with Unslung, flash memory devices as small as 512MB can be partitioned and formatted (the docs say 256MB, they are in error - must be 512MB or larger). Oct 10 13:40:18 Use the normal Linksys GUI with Unslung to do the formatting, and you'll be all set. Oct 10 13:59:46 cool, tnx Oct 10 14:00:04 regarding ftp. Oct 10 14:01:57 The possibility of using FXP from different ftp servers is in favour for the ftp server. *In this case anyway. Oct 10 16:56:30 ~botsnack Oct 10 16:56:30 aw, gee, caplink811_log Oct 10 17:11:19 ;) Oct 10 17:16:19 Why isn't there perl support in irssi? Oct 10 17:18:34 irssi, as in the ipkg package for unslung Oct 10 17:21:12 True Tobbe you can not load scripts Oct 10 17:21:41 I mis that to.. special screen_away Oct 10 17:21:58 yeah, but why isn't perl support compiled in? Oct 10 17:26:22 I have no idea... maybe you can ask : maintainer: NSLU2 Linux Oct 10 17:28:28 I just asked in #nslu2-linux, hopefully someone answers Oct 10 17:31:59 maybe that depends on building in the cross environment, tobbe you should ask eno and/or gda Oct 10 17:32:23 s/eno/eno-away/ Oct 10 17:32:24 caplink811_log meant: maybe that depends on building in the cross environment, tobbe you should ask eno-away and/or gda Oct 10 17:32:51 Mika_, how's life going ? btw Oct 10 17:34:20 caplink811_log: does gda come here? Oct 10 17:34:48 imho, usually, yes, but #nslu2-linux may be a better place Oct 10 17:35:16 ok, thanks, I'll wait for him then Oct 10 17:35:37 ~seen gda_ Oct 10 17:35:38 gda_ was last seen on IRC in channel #nslu2-general, 36d 20h 35m 12s ago, saying: 'n8'. Oct 10 17:35:42 ~seen gda Oct 10 17:35:42 i haven't seen 'gda', caplink811_log Oct 10 17:36:03 k, #nslu2-linux is the better place Oct 10 17:36:50 no bot in there to ask? Oct 10 17:37:29 s/to ask/to ask when he was last seen Oct 10 17:40:12 sure, just use ~seen username, jbot it is Oct 10 17:41:46 thanks Oct 10 17:43:31 caplink811_log: here is it ok for so far litle busy... and you how is it with you ? Oct 10 17:44:38 much travelling, the last 5 or 6 weeks, i'm happy about each evening, when i can stay at home, but, basically, it is ok :) Oct 10 17:46:21 Stil working for Orinoco ? Oct 10 17:47:43 wrong company that is, my company is formerly known as a part of lucen* and as a main sponsor of the worldcup ;) Oct 10 17:49:19 Ok i Remember it.. i make the link because i use orinoco drivers for my wireless card from your company.. Oct 10 17:52:17 so i do too ;) Oct 10 17:55:34 are you trevelling in your country ? Oct 10 18:02:49 s/trevelling/travelling Oct 10 18:03:56 fortunately, yes. but driving on german highway is pure stress Oct 10 18:06:18 You need a good and fast car for that :) Oct 10 18:09:40 it neither the one nor the other (vw golf station car), but at least, it is ok, better then the old one (60ps vs. 105) Oct 10 18:12:13 you have now a tdi ? Oct 10 18:13:26 yeah, but only the small one (red i, red di is better) Oct 10 18:14:56 Yes but you can not have all :), how is it with the cats ? Oct 10 18:16:59 well, that's a nice chapter, all are ok :) Oct 10 18:20:22 we have one more now.. so the one is not alone anymore Oct 10 18:30:12 i think, a cat likes that much :) Oct 10 18:32:39 yes it looks they are friends now..so it is ok, only the new cat likes to jump on my aquarium Oct 11 02:13:40 hi channel. newly unslung. this is sweet. Oct 11 02:14:08 peshalto, you've taken a step towards the dark side. gentoo-slug is in your future! Oct 11 02:14:21 why does my usb thumbdrive (my only drive, a 1GB on port 2) have its access light blinking every four seconds? Oct 11 02:14:38 joshin: heh, yes, baby steps for me first Oct 11 02:14:50 :) Oct 11 02:15:38 i installed a bunch of packages, so i don't know what's doing it.. the base install, or some package. Oct 11 02:15:59 or maybe it's being attacked every four seconds :-) Oct 11 02:16:42 but i think it started after installing the packages. Oct 11 02:43:08 why would ssh keys not work on an unslung device? Oct 11 02:44:02 and is there a short noun for 'unslung device'? Oct 11 02:45:51 "slug" Oct 11 02:46:36 There's nothing special about ssh keys on the NSLU2 with unslung or openslug AFAIK -- if they work elsewhere, they should work for the NSLU2. Oct 11 02:47:34 And regarding your memory stick - check the wiki for details, but basically you probably want to do this (logged in as root): touch /.ext3flash Oct 11 02:47:54 thanks! will try that. Oct 11 02:48:45 That will create an empty file who's presence will alert the boot process that you are running on a flash device -- so it won't swap on it, and it will also stop updating the date-time-last-accessed stamp on files. See the wiki for a page with details, and cautionary statements regarding this... Oct 11 02:49:13 ok, will read up on that. Oct 11 02:49:42 btw the topic said something about thanking mwester for all the work... well... THANKS! this rocks! Oct 11 02:50:11 been dreaming of this kind of tiny unix device for years now, and only just discovered it. Oct 11 02:50:54 been living under a rock i guess Oct 11 02:52:25 It's pretty cool what you can do with such a tiny device. BTW, the whole development crew deserves credit; I just sheparded the latest release through the process. Oct 11 02:53:27 well thanks to the whole gang then. Oct 11 02:55:38 yes indeed the blinking stopped after the reboot Oct 11 02:56:22 so if swap is disabled, i guess i'll notice that as 'out of memory' errors when i try to run some big processes? assuming i'm in the shell to see the error, that is **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 11 02:59:56 2006