**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 21 03:00:02 2006 Nov 21 05:12:03 morning Nov 21 12:09:50 hey Nov 21 12:10:08 can anyone tell me what the default ip of my nslu2 should be after resetting to the original linksys firmware Nov 21 12:10:15 shouldnt it be 192.168.1.77? Nov 21 12:16:05 yes it should be Nov 21 12:16:24 but it may be the IP address you used pre-reset Nov 21 14:47:53 hi Nov 21 14:48:22 i'm getting troubles building openslug-image from sources, Nov 21 14:49:05 ixp-osal-2.1 can't be downloaded, and I don't understand very well how to build the root filesystem Nov 21 14:51:03 how can I create the root filesystem, if this package is missing ? or how can I specify packages I want in the filesystem ? Nov 21 14:56:33 vinvin i guess you have to follow these instructions first: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/DownloadingTheIntelSourceCode Nov 21 14:57:00 Is that the package where the package name tells you what to do to fix the problem? ;) Nov 21 15:00:27 * Nov 21 15:00:31 oops Nov 21 15:01:05 EvilDevil i did not Nov 21 15:01:30 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/BuildingTheTarball i did that Nov 21 15:05:03 you'll still need to download the intel sources though Nov 21 15:05:15 yes allright... Nov 21 15:05:23 i did not see that page Nov 21 15:05:30 thanks Nov 21 15:06:25 I have problems to reach my ftp server in the non modified nslug2trough internet (original software). The netgear router wont let the request trough. This is despite the fact that I have added a port forward to port 21. Nov 21 15:06:25 Can anybody tell me their settings in the router? Its more than ok if the settings you use is not to port 21, I rather user any other Nov 21 15:07:31 Some port triggering should do the trick Nov 21 15:07:53 bad-h, ist your ftp-client using PASV mode? Nov 21 15:08:41 hmm Nov 21 15:09:22 Which is the correct mode? Nov 21 15:10:21 PASV in that case Nov 21 15:10:49 ok Nov 21 15:11:08 Ill go try it out, w8 Nov 21 15:12:11 FTP uses port 21 only as a control channel. it needs other ports for data-transfers. if your nslu2 is behind a (nat)-router, you have to use PASV transfers Nov 21 15:13:01 that is the case Nov 21 15:13:47 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation#Drawbacks :) Nov 21 15:14:57 I am aware of this, that's way I was interested in witch ports to use. Im currently using, in the router, pre defined rule for this called simply FTP, Nov 21 15:14:57 This does not work. Nov 21 15:15:26 woops, ok Nov 21 15:17:17 Some protocols can accommodate one instance of NAT between participating hosts ("passive mode" FTP, for example), sometimes with the assistance of an Application Layer Gateway (see below), but fail when both systems are separated from the internet by NAT. Use of NAT also complicates security protocols such as IPsec. Nov 21 15:18:13 Ok, so I’m screwed or is there any solution to this?????? Nov 21 15:19:12 in current I can't find v2.1 but 2.02 for redboot Nov 21 15:19:58 vinvin, there should be a link called "archive" Nov 21 15:20:28 bad-h, you're using the stock nslu2-firmware? Nov 21 15:20:48 yes Nov 21 15:21:15 original software Nov 21 15:21:16 that's weird for archives to be 2.1 and current 2.02 Nov 21 15:21:45 i have not modded it at all, no Nov 21 15:23:46 bad-h, if you were using unslung, you could use SFTP/SCP for filetransfers. That would be preferred anyway, because FTP sends the passwords unencrypted Nov 21 15:24:47 got to go. cya Nov 21 15:26:48 this intel thing is a pain in the ass Nov 21 15:32:27 and the website is buggy files can't be downloaded... Nov 21 15:32:29 great Nov 21 15:33:01 If anybody could just tell me how they have set up their ftp port rules in the router, I would been very happy........ Nov 21 15:34:07 vinvin: agreed. but it is necessary to play by Intel's rules when using Intel's intellectual property. ;) Nov 21 15:35:20 if that could be just as easy as everything that would be fine Nov 21 15:35:32 i'm not able to download ipx400 Nov 21 16:39:38 msg/ NickServ IDENTIFY 5011 Nov 21 16:39:46 um Nov 21 17:47:07 hi again Nov 21 17:48:11 I finally had the IPL_ixp400AccessLibrary-2_1.zip file, but build fails : it cannot apply the patch Nov 21 17:48:26 it does not seems to find it Nov 21 17:48:54 anybody have already seen this ? Nov 21 18:36:37 Electrin: And do remember filing a report after the install is ok. You know the debian-boot list wants it probably. Nov 21 18:38:18 I will. But where do I do that? Nov 21 18:38:28 Howto somewhere? Nov 21 18:44:38 Electrin: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/arm/ch05s03.html.en#submit-bug Nov 21 18:44:50 Electrin: Its applicable. Nov 21 18:45:41 thanks. I'll do that. Nov 21 18:45:51 Thanks. ttyl Nov 21 19:38:40 what's the default IP address of the nslu2? the Windows program fails to find it, and it doesn't seem to ask my dhcp server for an IP address.. Nov 21 19:39:34 the instructions must assume it's on the same subnet, when it doesn't say what subnet that should be Nov 21 19:39:45 192.168.1.77 (or 0.77 ?) Nov 21 19:39:58 1 Nov 21 19:40:07 and 192.168.0.1 if it's in "upgrade mode" Nov 21 19:40:12 hm Nov 21 19:40:15 ah, right Nov 21 19:40:21 the instructions are made of fail then :) Nov 21 19:40:39 but normally 1.77 Nov 21 19:41:02 would be nice of linksys to tell you Nov 21 19:41:39 thanks Nov 21 19:41:55 hm Nov 21 19:58:09 * kirma wonders if anyone has attempted other OS ports than linux on nslu2 Nov 21 19:58:47 like what? win3.11? ;) Nov 21 19:58:57 purchased one to try fbsd, as support for ixp425 boards seems to be appearing on freebsd Nov 21 19:59:31 I have a vauge memory about someone trying to boot some bsd variant, I think on the netbsd-boot-arm something lists Nov 21 20:00:03 overclocked, soldered serial wires, built ttl-rs232-adapter, but then found out that box I planned to use with it has no vacant serial ports (tested with another, though) Nov 21 20:01:30 widrone: success or failure? based on very recent commits to freebsd development tree, it'd seem much of the hardware might well be supported with rather minimal hacking Nov 21 20:01:50 kirma: http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-arm/ Nov 21 20:02:23 Try around there, I think I saw both failures and reports of sucess. But the exact hw revisions escape me at the moment. Nov 21 20:02:44 bbl, waliking the dog :) Nov 21 20:04:24 I wonder if lack of ethernet support is only firmware licensing issue, since it xeemx fbsd tree gained ixp425 ethernet drivers from netbsd couple days ago, but those require binary firmware supplied by intel Nov 21 20:29:37 What is the best method for mirroring the system on my usb-stick to a hard disk? Nov 21 20:37:53 find | cpio -padmuv obviously doesn't care about keeping the correct file permissions Nov 21 20:38:18 dd ? Nov 21 20:38:35 cp -a ? Nov 21 20:38:37 i believe cpio should work. Nov 21 20:38:45 or else my backups are fucked up Nov 21 20:41:33 root@GABRIEL:/mnt/sdb1# ls -l Nov 21 20:41:33 drwx------ 2 root root 1024 Oct 24 20:53 bin Nov 21 20:41:33 drwx------ 2 root root 1024 Oct 24 20:53 boot Nov 21 20:41:41 That doesn't look very like "working" Nov 21 20:42:47 Slug:/data/backup# ls -al debian_121106 Nov 21 20:42:47 total 104 Nov 21 20:42:47 drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 2006-11-12 17:15 . Nov 21 20:42:47 drwxrwxr-x 4 root 501 4096 2006-11-12 16:52 .. Nov 21 20:42:47 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-11-12 17:15 bin Nov 21 20:42:47 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-11-12 17:13 boot Nov 21 20:43:31 this is what i got last time i used it. *but* i have lost the script i used and don't remember what options i used Nov 21 20:43:51 hm. Nov 21 20:43:52 i just remember i had to copy /dev separately Nov 21 20:44:17 lemme try to find out... i have to write that command again anyway Nov 21 20:45:39 Oh look, just after I used the right command, it worked. Nov 21 20:49:37 good Nov 21 20:49:42 which command? Nov 21 20:49:44 Madkiss, there should be a generic HowTo about upgrading Harddisk on linux Nov 21 20:52:05 well, so I copied the stuff over there, and apparently, it didn't work, it booted from internal flash again. Nov 21 20:54:19 what did you do? you copied the root fs from a working system to sdb1, then swapped disks and tried to boot? Nov 21 20:54:31 yes Nov 21 20:54:48 did you check /dev? Nov 21 20:55:00 yes Nov 21 20:55:44 i'm afraid i'm clueless. i didn't have another hdd to try and boot from my backup. Nov 21 21:09:44 Madkiss, you're running which "firmware"? Nov 21 21:10:10 OpenSlug, latest beta Nov 21 21:11:29 maybe, you should reuse the turnup command Nov 21 21:12:30 but that will nullify all my settings. Nov 21 21:13:03 i'm not sure about that. Nov 21 21:16:18 http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html Nov 21 21:17:04 Madkiss, if you use turnup without "-i" it'll be fine, it just adjusts the /linuxrc on the internal flash to load the OS from the harddrive Nov 21 21:17:34 oh. Nov 21 21:19:53 EvilDevil: but ... actually, I am exchanging a usb-flash-stick for a hard-disk ... Nov 21 21:21:39 yeah. Nov 21 21:21:41 I am dumb like bread. Nov 21 21:21:52 On the topic of usb flash disks, anyone got one to break from overuse yet? Nov 21 21:22:33 yes Nov 21 21:22:41 widrone. i've been using one as swap, and finally got "bus errors". i had to change it. Nov 21 21:22:45 Rootfs and swap? Nov 21 21:23:20 just swap, here. but it was used already when i began to use it with the slug. Nov 21 21:24:28 /dev/sda1 247.9M 102.3M 132.8M 44% / Nov 21 21:24:28 /dev/sda1 247.9M 102.3M 132.8M 44% /dev/.static/dev Nov 21 21:24:29 yes. Nov 21 21:24:31 I am the king of the world. Nov 21 21:24:33 definetely. Nov 21 21:24:37 One day, jffs root. If I could just bother to look into it, it must be possible and wirth something. jffs2 is something asw. Nov 21 21:24:48 s/wirth/worth Nov 21 21:25:03 not sure it will change anything, but i've splitted the new one into several swap partitions and a cycle changes the swap partition used by the slug everyday... Nov 21 21:25:20 c:cycle:script: Nov 21 21:25:35 blah Nov 21 21:29:26 Texture: Hm, I see. Neat. Nov 21 21:33:21 Texture, usb-sticks are using internal routines which detect flashcells wearing out and using replacement sectors to avoid data loss (at least the newer ones do) Nov 21 21:39:47 EvilDevil: So even layering something like jffs(2) on top of those will be kind of a waste? Better to minimise writes overall, like logging to remote syslogd and stuff. Nov 21 21:40:07 would be intersted in kknow how I can clone a 1 gb memstick --> 1gb memstick as a backup. the are cheap.. Nov 21 21:40:41 EvilDevil, ty i didn't know that Nov 21 21:40:48 janne5011, dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb Nov 21 21:40:50 yes qidrone i disable klogd and syslog. seems isnt hurt anyting. Nov 21 21:41:07 ok so easy cloning.. Nov 21 21:41:11 thanks Nov 21 21:41:50 Texture, I didn't know that either, but I read an article about the methods used to prevent flash memory to wear out Nov 21 21:43:25 Maybe a collection of methods for minimising wear on the usbflash should be gathered on the wiki. Nov 21 21:44:11 Be nice to have some generic scripts or something for openslug and debian to "shave stuff off". They may already be out there with a little google. Nov 21 21:44:25 u can disable syslog for different runlevels if need debug Nov 21 21:45:15 root@GABRIEL:~# ipkg install -force-reinstall alac-decoder_0.1.0-2_mipsel.ipk Nov 21 21:45:18 Clearing state_want and state_flag for pkg=alac-decoder (arch_priority=0 flag=16 want=2) Nov 21 21:45:22 Nothing to be done Nov 21 21:45:24 wtf. Nov 21 21:45:43 oh wait. Nov 21 21:45:46 I am dumb like bread. Nov 21 21:45:55 sudo /etc/init.d/sysklogd stop Nov 21 21:46:42 sudo /etc/init.d/klogd stop and sudo rm /etc/rc?.d/*klogd and sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/*klogd* Nov 21 21:48:32 widrone, or use a ramdisk for /var/log and directories which get frequently written to Nov 21 21:48:37 (that's what's turnup memstick basically does) Nov 21 21:49:41 EvilDevil: Mm, that is good too. Indeed it does, kind of forgot that. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 22 02:59:58 2006