**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 07 02:59:58 2007
Jan 07 07:11:34 <wiseoldowl> I don't suppose there's any way to use an NSLU2 (unslung) to park on an IRC channel and just write everything that happens on the channel to a text file.
Jan 07 07:11:52 <wiseoldowl> (With rotation so the file doesn't get too big)
Jan 07 07:12:41 * wiseoldowl is primarily a Windows user so not too familiar with IRC under Linux
Jan 07 07:24:10 <mwester> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ConfigureMiauForIRCLogging
Jan 07 07:25:33 <wiseoldowl> Wow, there's a page for everything.  Thanks mwester
Jan 07 07:25:48 <mwester> you're welcome!
Jan 07 07:26:31 <mwester> That page has been around forever, so watch out for differences for Unslung 6.8 and perhaps even a newer release of Miau.  Good luck!
Jan 07 07:29:11 <wiseoldowl> Okay, thanks
Jan 07 07:54:09 <wiseoldowl> mwester... didn't install...
Jan 07 07:55:01 <wiseoldowl> mkdir: Cannot create directory `/opt/var/spool': No such file or directory
Jan 07 07:55:30 <wiseoldowl> mkdir: Cannot create directory `/opt/var/spool/miau': No such file or directory
Jan 07 08:12:05 <DrZimmerman> wiseoldowl: create the dir :)
Jan 07 08:12:58 <wiseoldowl> Weird part was, when I went to look the directories were there already.  Go figure.
Jan 07 08:13:37 <DrZimmerman> lol weird
Jan 07 08:13:56 <DrZimmerman> dunno, i'm not using my nslu for a long time now
Jan 07 09:56:25 <wiseoldowl> Got it working finally, sort of, I think :)
Jan 07 11:02:59 <NSLU2-IRC> hi peeps
Jan 07 11:04:37 <duffer> i'm having trouble building diet-x11 in oe - the log says it's missing X11/x.h when building makyekeys.c
Jan 07 11:04:46 <duffer> makekeys.c
Jan 07 11:05:59 <duffer> ne1 here?
Jan 07 11:30:47 <m1ch> i'm here and don't know the answer to your question - but if you are using x11 could i ask a question to you?
Jan 07 11:31:44 <duffer> sorry mich - was googling...  wassup?
Jan 07 11:33:10 <m1ch> x11 - is this all the xserver stuff for getting a window for the slug?
Jan 07 11:34:00 <duffer> no - it's so u can display a remote window - you type 'xterm' on the slug and you x-server software that runs on your client gets the window
Jan 07 11:34:21 <duffer> the x-server is the client software
Jan 07 11:34:57 <m1ch> sorry - i closed the window!
Jan 07 11:35:04 <duffer> np - i'll paste
Jan 07 11:35:25 <m1ch> k
Jan 07 11:35:50 <duffer> no - it's so u can display a remote window - you type 'xterm' on the slug and your x-server software that runs on your client gets the window 
Jan 07 11:36:05 <duffer> the x-server is the client software
Jan 07 11:36:28 <duffer> u need to export your display first though
Jan 07 11:36:38 <m1ch> i've been readin about it but i don't fully understand what it can do - got a screenshot?
Jan 07 11:36:54 <duffer> u got some x-server software?
Jan 07 11:37:06 <duffer> exceed
Jan 07 11:37:20 <duffer> or something similar - cygwin will do
Jan 07 11:38:19 <m1ch> no nothing - i just wondered what a screenshot of it looks like on your windows box?
Jan 07 11:39:02 <duffer> like a classic xterm - sorry but that's about it  :-(
Jan 07 11:39:29 <duffer> u use a window manager to change the look and feel though - google for window manager xterm
Jan 07 11:39:39 <duffer> i'm sure there'll be a pic somewhere
Jan 07 11:40:44 <m1ch> worth me installing - what benefits does it give me?
Jan 07 11:41:09 <duffer> a remote display mainly - which as a side effect allows you to run x apps
Jan 07 11:41:35 <duffer> i dunno what comes with an oe build
Jan 07 11:42:37 <m1ch> so what does it show in a remote window that putty doesnt - i think i don't fully know what an xterm window manager is really
Jan 07 11:42:43 <duffer> but firefox, mozilla, basically anything you run from the gui, if compilable on the slug will run
Jan 07 11:43:07 <duffer> do u run linux? 
Jan 07 11:43:13 <duffer> on a pc or laptop?
Jan 07 11:43:30 <m1ch> i run XP on a pc
Jan 07 11:43:35 <duffer> if you have x you can run *graphical apps*
Jan 07 11:44:05 <duffer> u could probably get opera running via one of the emulators
Jan 07 11:44:13 <duffer> it'd be damn slow though
Jan 07 11:44:15 <duffer> lol
Jan 07 11:44:48 <m1ch> so quite pointless then if i'm on a windows system to think about setting any of this up?
Jan 07 11:44:57 <duffer> i haven't yet found anything that xterm would give you beyond putty except for the remote display
Jan 07 11:45:41 <duffer> no, under windows, if you install an x server (like cygwin) you can type xterm on your slug and an independent windows would open in xp
Jan 07 11:45:53 <duffer> for you to work in
Jan 07 11:46:38 <duffer> i had it set up once so it would run a script and execute a remote display from commands in an email
Jan 07 11:46:56 <duffer> allowed me to get past the fully firewalled gateway
Jan 07 11:47:31 <duffer> the gw allowed unrestricted outbound but nothing in - this allowed me to get to parts of the networks that were heavily firewalled
Jan 07 11:47:49 <m1ch> cool
Jan 07 11:47:56 <duffer> i thought so  :-)
Jan 07 11:47:58 <m1ch> might research this more this week
Jan 07 11:48:08 <m1ch> bit beyond me for the moment
Jan 07 11:48:09 <m1ch> lol
Jan 07 11:48:11 <duffer> worth doing for the academic knowledge
Jan 07 11:48:14 <duffer> ;-)
Jan 07 11:48:30 <duffer> if u enjoy fiddling with pcs/slugs
Jan 07 11:49:02 <duffer> download the cygwin distribution - make sure you do an advanced download and get the X stuff - esp the x-server
Jan 07 11:49:46 <m1ch> the amount i have learnt in the past 2 weeks of having my slug is immense
Jan 07 11:50:00 <m1ch> i work in IT but it is mainly all windows based
Jan 07 11:50:06 <duffer> heh, i say that every week and i've been using linux for 13 years
Jan 07 11:50:06 <m1ch> never found linux much fun
Jan 07 11:50:20 <m1ch> but this has made it fun - and it made it purposeful
Jan 07 11:50:33 <m1ch> best £50 i've spent in a long time
Jan 07 11:50:35 <duffer> it's easy nowadays - it'll run completely configured from most distributions even on a cd
Jan 07 11:50:53 <m1ch> yeh i've used knoppix before now to test with
Jan 07 11:51:11 <m1ch> that is quite mind boggling to use a cd!
Jan 07 11:51:14 <duffer> yep - my electricity provider are suspicious at all the electricity i'm NOT using since - turned off my old dual proc linux box
Jan 07 11:51:30 <m1ch> lol
Jan 07 11:51:51 <duffer> my entire network (dhcp, tftp, ftp, web, samba, ccxstreamer, itunes) all run from two slugs
Jan 07 11:51:58 <duffer> and silently...
Jan 07 11:52:28 <duffer> they've paid for themselves many times over in saved power
Jan 07 11:52:35 <duffer> i have two for dev and two in prod
Jan 07 11:52:57 <m1ch> you use anything other than unslung?
Jan 07 11:53:05 <duffer> i onlu use openslug
Jan 07 11:53:13 <duffer> i'm a masochist
Jan 07 11:53:15 <m1ch> i'm tempted to buy another and have a fiddle with openslug or something in a month or so when i know more
Jan 07 11:53:20 <duffer> unslung was too restrictive
Jan 07 11:53:23 <m1ch> is it a lot better?
Jan 07 11:53:28 <duffer> yep
Jan 07 11:53:41 <duffer> but you need to know your way around linujx first
Jan 07 11:53:51 <duffer> it only gives u ssh out of the box
Jan 07 11:54:01 <duffer> no nice web interface to do anything
Jan 07 11:54:07 <duffer> all ipkg this, ipkg that
Jan 07 11:54:10 <duffer> lol
Jan 07 11:54:15 <m1ch> lol
Jan 07 11:54:33 <duffer> i've been running from my own build for well over a year
Jan 07 11:54:35 <m1ch> i've found the hardest part to get my head around as a newb is the diversion scripts
Jan 07 11:54:46 <duffer> yeah - i hear ya
Jan 07 11:54:57 <duffer> once you understand how that works it's a breeze
Jan 07 11:55:21 <duffer> but if u have openslug you just use an rc.local if you're lazy
Jan 07 11:55:41 <duffer> everything in one file that runs on startup automatically
Jan 07 11:56:03 <duffer> most things you'd want would have an init script
Jan 07 11:56:35 <duffer> if you're using you slug for storage, leave it on unslung
Jan 07 11:57:04 <duffer> if yu want more, like web, ftpd, etc - get another slug and openslug it
Jan 07 17:23:08 <bubba> is anyone using debian on the slug?
Jan 07 17:23:16 <bubba> i could do with a 1-minute help :)
Jan 07 17:26:17 <bubba> if there's people using debian on the slug, could someone give me a pointer to the sources.list which should be being used now, as mine is out of date or partial and i need to install some new stuff
Jan 07 17:28:32 * barnseenio is
Jan 07 17:29:05 <bubba> any chance of seeing your sources.list ?
Jan 07 17:29:15 <bubba> mine is not enough it seems
Jan 07 17:29:23 <barnseenio> > cat /etc/apt/sources.list
Jan 07 17:29:24 <barnseenio> deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib
Jan 07 17:29:24 <barnseenio> deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main non-free contrib
Jan 07 17:29:38 <bubba> this is for armeb right?
Jan 07 17:30:16 <barnseenio> > uname -a
Jan 07 17:30:17 <barnseenio> Linux NSUL2 2.6.16 #1 PREEMPT Thu Jun 8 23:38:13 PDT 2006 armv5tel GNU/Linux
Jan 07 17:30:17 <bubba> i'm confused - is that all - how does it know its for armeb
Jan 07 17:30:23 <barnseenio> magic!
Jan 07 17:30:32 <bubba> apt really is the bomb.
Jan 07 17:30:40 <barnseenio> indeed!
Jan 07 17:30:56 <bubba> dynamo:/etc/apt# uname -a
Jan 07 17:30:56 <bubba> Linux dynamo 2.6.12.2 #1 Tue Sep 27 20:21:18 CDT 2005 armv5teb GNU/Linux
Jan 07 17:31:12 <bubba> is that old ?
Jan 07 17:32:10 <bubba> my old sources.list:
Jan 07 17:32:11 <barnseenio> no idea
Jan 07 17:32:13 <bubba> deb http://armeb.debian.net/debian-armeb/debian/sarge/ sarge main
Jan 07 17:32:13 <bubba> deb http://armeb.debian.net/debian-armeb sid main contrib override
Jan 07 17:32:18 <bubba> ^^ can you see a problem there
Jan 07 17:32:27 <barnseenio> im the wrong guy to ask
Jan 07 17:32:34 <bubba> ok
Jan 07 17:32:37 <barnseenio> why sarge and sid?
Jan 07 17:32:57 <bubba> i dont know.. i think when i installed it, it told me to put that there
Jan 07 17:33:08 <bubba> i think its opendebianslug (does that make sense)
Jan 07 17:33:15 <barnseenio> i think mine is
Jan 07 17:33:22 <barnseenio> its the bootstapped not installed
Jan 07 17:33:32 <barnseenio> *not installer
Jan 07 17:34:27 <barnseenio> i installed my slug when the installer version of debianslug was not advise
Jan 07 17:34:30 <barnseenio> d
Jan 07 17:35:04 <bubba> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/OpenDebianSlug
Jan 07 17:35:07 <bubba> i think i followed that
Jan 07 17:35:13 <bubba> but it seems to be obseleted in a big way
Jan 07 17:35:37 <barnseenio> oh right, yeah thats not good
Jan 07 17:36:04 <bubba> i use 'armeb'
Jan 07 17:36:09 <bubba> which i think is big endian
Jan 07 17:36:19 <bubba> is this why i cant install new packages
Jan 07 17:36:52 <barnseenio> yeah that sucks i think
Jan 07 17:37:06 <barnseenio> DebianSlug 3.10 Beta (NSLU2)
Jan 07 17:37:09 <barnseenio> thats what i used
Jan 07 17:38:03 <bubba> so i need to flash my slug again, etc
Jan 07 17:38:11 <barnseenio> personally i would
Jan 07 17:38:21 <barnseenio> and if i was doing it from scratch, id probly do the installer
Jan 07 17:38:28 <barnseenio> as its the now recommended way to install debian
Jan 07 17:38:35 <bubba> ok
Jan 07 17:38:45 <bubba> can i ask some naive questions please
Jan 07 17:38:48 <barnseenio> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/HomePage
Jan 07 17:38:55 <barnseenio> g4i
Jan 07 17:40:59 <barnseenio> hmm, although reading the debian/nslu2 docs appears you have to tweak some tick timer thing on every boot, or obviously script it to be done
Jan 07 17:41:45 <bubba> yeh
Jan 07 17:41:48 <bubba> i do a ntp update
Jan 07 17:42:05 <bubba> okay if i upgrade to the new version do i have to reinstall my hdd and stuff?
Jan 07 17:42:12 <barnseenio> To temporarily fix the problem without restarting, use tickadj to set the kernel ticks to 10101. You need to do this every time the NSLU2 is turned on. 
Jan 07 17:42:23 <barnseenio> hmm, no idea - never done a reinstall
Jan 07 17:42:39 <barnseenio> got much data on it you dont want to lose?
Jan 07 17:43:23 <bubba> yeah
Jan 07 17:43:29 <bubba> lots of nice things and other users work
Jan 07 17:43:34 <barnseenio> hmm
Jan 07 17:43:36 <bubba> i might see my bud about it
Jan 07 17:43:42 <bubba> he lives 100miles north but had a slug
Jan 07 17:43:47 <barnseenio> gotcha
Jan 07 17:43:53 <bubba> you reckon this would be causing the problems with the php install?
Jan 07 17:44:00 <barnseenio> no idea
Jan 07 17:44:03 <barnseenio> php went on fine for me
Jan 07 17:44:07 <bubba> ok
Jan 07 17:44:13 <bubba> but you have a newer kernel
Jan 07 17:44:17 <bubba> and you are prolly using LE
Jan 07 17:44:19 <barnseenio> yeah looks that way
Jan 07 17:44:22 <barnseenio> i am using LE
Jan 07 17:44:27 <barnseenio> def
Jan 07 17:44:32 <bubba> of brother, thanks for your help
Jan 07 17:44:36 <bubba> i love the linxu community
Jan 07 17:44:40 <bubba> people are so kind
Jan 07 17:44:45 <bubba> take care
Jan 07 17:44:51 <bubba> i might be back later
Jan 07 17:45:23 <barnseenio> take care dude
Jan 07 17:45:30 <bubba> where you from?
Jan 07 17:45:31 <bubba> .nl?
Jan 07 17:45:45 <barnseenio> heh, no just use their source! im from sheffield, england
Jan 07 17:45:48 <bubba> oh right
Jan 07 17:45:51 <bubba> been there 
Jan 07 17:45:55 <bubba> lovely people
Jan 07 17:46:03 <barnseenio> heh, i'll tell them!
Jan 07 17:46:03 <bubba> i went to a small village outside sheffield
Jan 07 17:46:06 <barnseenio> oh named?
Jan 07 17:46:12 <bubba> you not from shef originally?
Jan 07 17:46:25 <bubba> hendersons relish
Jan 07 17:46:26 <barnseenio> always from
Jan 07 17:46:28 <bubba> i cant remember the name
Jan 07 17:46:29 <barnseenio> lol @ relish
Jan 07 17:46:38 <bubba> can we swear in here?
Jan 07 17:46:41 <barnseenio> put it in here with my name, and it'll get logged if you remember
Jan 07 17:46:46 <barnseenio> dont see why not
Jan 07 17:47:22 <bubba> went into a pub with my mate, who is from shef, and half the pub laughed about how we were 'a pair of fucking queers' and asked us over, got us drinks,and we spent the rest of the night chatting and enjoying ourselves
Jan 07 17:47:32 <barnseenio> lol
Jan 07 17:47:35 <bubba> seems this is how to be friendly in sheffield
Jan 07 17:47:41 <barnseenio> sounds about right
Jan 07 17:47:45 <bubba> i went up to go to puck stop
Jan 07 17:47:47 <bubba> the ice hockey place
Jan 07 17:47:52 <bubba> i'm from somerset originally
Jan 07 17:47:56 <barnseenio> gotcha
Jan 07 17:48:03 <bubba> very trusting people
Jan 07 17:48:05 <barnseenio> well, chat again soon friend
Jan 07 17:48:11 <bubba> ok mate
Jan 07 17:48:13 <bubba> nice to meet you
Jan 07 17:48:15 <barnseenio> u2
Jan 07 17:48:21 <bubba> laters potatos
Jan 07 18:04:07 <caplink811_log> bubba, this line will work for debianopenslug (BE) deb http://armeb.debian.net/debian-armeb/debian/sarge/ sarge main
Jan 07 18:04:44 <Naib> is it worth waiting for Etch to go stable or just install sarge (?) and upgrade packages?
Jan 07 18:16:59 <m1ch> anyone able to advise me with a problem with vsftpd and user permissions?
Jan 07 18:19:31 <m1ch> in short i want users to have full access to read/write in their home DIR and read from a main share area
Jan 07 18:25:19 <sto> hi
Jan 07 18:25:49 <sto> i have a brandnew HDD and with what should i format it, cuz my nslu cant find it
Jan 07 18:29:12 <m1ch> sto - it needs formatting as ext3 which is the file system the nslu2 uses 
Jan 07 18:29:26 <m1ch> you can format it via the web interface
Jan 07 18:29:41 <sto> nah it says not formated
Jan 07 18:29:44 <m1ch> (i found the cd rom wizard would not work for me)
Jan 07 18:30:50 <sto> how can i see if the disk is mounted?
Jan 07 18:32:06 <m1ch> hey jelle!
Jan 07 18:32:19 <jelle> hey m1ch
Jan 07 18:32:47 <m1ch> i got a question jelle - 
Jan 07 18:32:48 <jelle> vsftp still working for you?
Jan 07 18:33:08 <m1ch> yes, works fine:) Just getting a friend to test FXP in a second as well
Jan 07 18:33:35 <m1ch> just one problem - i've got two folders - DISK2 and FTP. 
Jan 07 18:33:53 <m1ch> I want a user called FTPuser to be able to upload and download from FTP
Jan 07 18:33:59 <m1ch> but read only from DISK2
Jan 07 18:34:03 <m1ch> i can't see how i can set this?
Jan 07 18:34:17 <sto> i cant format my HDD 
Jan 07 18:34:47 <caplink811_log> sto, jave you read any of adresses which i posted yesterday?
Jan 07 18:34:55 <sto> yea
Jan 07 18:34:57 <m1ch> sto - what have you done so far - have you connected the slug - can you access the slug interface?
Jan 07 18:35:00 <sto> but nothin helps
Jan 07 18:35:03 <caplink811_log> and have you read this http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/database?method=reportRows&tbl=1
Jan 07 18:35:27 <sto> have to login
Jan 07 18:35:32 <sto> dont have yahoo
Jan 07 18:35:46 <sto> ok i did: format the HDD over webinterface
Jan 07 18:35:54 <sto> and it always says: NOT FORMATED...
Jan 07 18:36:09 <sto> then i installed EXT3 under windows
Jan 07 18:36:17 <sto> and put the hdd back into the slug
Jan 07 18:36:21 <sto> still not workin
Jan 07 18:36:33 <jelle> m1ch: that is really into vsftp, so try to find some manual pages on that to see if that is possible
Jan 07 18:37:14 <jelle> or did you try to make a dir readonly and see what happened?
Jan 07 18:37:48 <caplink811_log> sto, your could read that page http://wiki.nslu2-info.de/pmwiki.php/Faq/Festplatten, the database isn't large, but maybe, that your enclosure is in....
Jan 07 18:37:54 <sto> so now im in telnet...and smbd gave me a command to see the HDD partitions..put forgot :(
Jan 07 18:38:28 * caplink811_log shouldn't feed the trolls
Jan 07 18:38:42 <caplink811_log> sto, fdisk -l /dev/sd[a|b]
Jan 07 18:39:11 <sto> nothin happens
Jan 07 18:39:44 <caplink811_log> with both possibilites?
Jan 07 18:40:04 <sto> yea
Jan 07 18:40:08 <sto> i have icy box
Jan 07 18:40:10 <sto> with the
Jan 07 18:40:12 <sto> w8
Jan 07 18:40:31 <sto> cypress (i think) chip
Jan 07 18:40:42 <sto> i read that it should work
Jan 07 18:40:52 <sto> and i have a western digital 200 GB
Jan 07 18:41:19 <caplink811_log> cypress chipsets works well, if they have only usb ports, not firewire combinations
Jan 07 18:41:45 <sto> yea i have USB and IDE hdd
Jan 07 18:41:55 <m1ch> guys - what port does vsftpd use as standard and what port does FXP use - my friend can download from me fine using FTP but can't use FXP
Jan 07 18:42:24 <caplink811_log> m1ch, cat /etc/services
Jan 07 18:43:46 <caplink811_log> m1ch, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FXP
Jan 07 18:44:04 <caplink811_log> m1ch, or http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc959
Jan 07 18:44:47 <m1ch> k
Jan 07 18:45:29 <sto> so what cani do
Jan 07 18:45:36 <caplink811_log> sto, if you tried fdisk -l (small L) /dev/sda and fdisk -l (small L) /dev/sdb, and nothing happened, then you should power on your disk enclosure
Jan 07 18:46:49 <sto> whats enclosure in german :(
Jan 07 18:47:15 <caplink811_log> gehäuse
Jan 07 18:47:34 <sto> its on!
Jan 07 18:48:25 <caplink811_log> then you could try to plug the disk on the other port, and repeat the commands, maybe one of the usb ports is gone
Jan 07 18:48:37 <sto> whats the commadn to see what partitions are on the hdd?
Jan 07 18:48:43 <sto> k
Jan 07 18:48:44 <caplink811_log> but wait at least 20-30 secs
Jan 07 18:48:49 <sto> ill reboot NAS too
Jan 07 18:49:35 <sto> yesterday somebody gave me a command to see what partitions are on the HDD
Jan 07 18:49:49 <sto> like ... sda1 ... 190 Gb....linux
Jan 07 18:49:57 <jelle> yes, that would be fdisk -l /dev/sda1
Jan 07 18:49:58 <sto> sda2 .... 100 mb.. ... linux
Jan 07 18:49:59 <jelle> yes, that would be fdisk -l /dev/sda
Jan 07 18:50:08 <sto> sda3 .... 100 mb .... swap
Jan 07 18:50:12 <caplink811_log> did you follow our communication in the 20 minutes ?
Jan 07 18:50:15 <jelle> or, that would be fdisk -l /dev/sdb
Jan 07 18:50:21 <jelle> or mount
Jan 07 18:50:28 <caplink811_log> s/the /the last /
Jan 07 18:50:28 <capbot> caplink811_log meant: did you follow our communication in the last 20 minutes ?
Jan 07 18:50:39 <sto> yea i type in mount
Jan 07 18:50:46 <sto> then there comes like 7 lines
Jan 07 18:50:55 <sto> but how do i see if its mount?
Jan 07 18:51:01 <jelle> any /dev/sd?? on those lines?
Jan 07 18:51:07 <jelle> did you check dmesg?
Jan 07 18:51:10 <sto> ahhh
Jan 07 18:51:14 <sto> i think that was it
Jan 07 18:51:15 <caplink811_log> but i mentioned, you should type fdisk -l /dev/bla
Jan 07 18:51:16 <jelle> could be some info there
Jan 07 18:51:22 <sto> i DID
Jan 07 18:51:27 <sto> i did all
Jan 07 18:51:29 <sto> ok rebooted
Jan 07 18:52:13 <caplink811_log> assuming, that you'll read this page (excellent btw) http://www.netzmafia.de/skripten/unix/
Jan 07 18:52:54 <caplink811_log> and fdisk -l devicename is the usual command to see the structure of a media
Jan 07 18:53:03 <sto> i typed in NOW AGAIN: fdisk -l /dev/sda
Jan 07 18:53:20 <sto> and now the HDD is workin...
Jan 07 18:53:36 <sto> and telnet is workin too...so lets see what happens next
Jan 07 18:55:16 <sto> yea done and nothin is
Jan 07 18:57:00 <jelle> sto: so no outcome of the fdisk command? and fdisk -l /dev/sdb?
Jan 07 18:57:01 <sto> i pressed format....and it worked for 10 secs and then it says NOT formated
Jan 07 18:57:08 <sto> nothin!
Jan 07 18:57:24 <sto> i type press enter and then a empty line comes
Jan 07 18:58:02 <sto> and if i type /dev/sda  it says Permission denied
Jan 07 18:58:06 <caplink811_log> do a cat /proc/bus/usb/devices and poastebin the output, pls
Jan 07 18:58:16 <jelle> it doesn't see your disk at all. is the usb cable connected? 
Jan 07 18:58:27 <jelle> did you try the other usb port?
Jan 07 18:58:32 <caplink811_log> jelle, ^^^^^
Jan 07 18:58:50 <sto> ok ill take another usb cable
Jan 07 18:58:53 <jelle> caplink811_log: sounds a little hopeless, doesn;t it?
Jan 07 18:59:04 <caplink811_log> well...
Jan 07 18:59:36 <jelle> not a technical problem per se ;)
Jan 07 19:00:08 <sto> im going to freak out :)
Jan 07 19:00:36 <sto> but
Jan 07 19:00:54 <caplink811_log> and sto with the other usb cable, upon you plug the disk in, wait 20 to 30 secs, and then enter ->cat /proc/bus/usb/devices<enter> and pastebin the  output of this command
Jan 07 19:01:04 <sto> i format under win into FAT32 and plugged in at nslu @ stanadard firmware and it says FAT/NTFS
Jan 07 19:01:51 <sto> yea its pretty long command
Jan 07 19:01:53 <sto> output
Jan 07 19:02:01 <caplink811_log> ~patience
Jan 07 19:02:02 <capbot> patience is a goodness
Jan 07 19:03:19 <sto> there are like 30 lines
Jan 07 19:03:22 <sto> where to type..???
Jan 07 19:03:39 <caplink811_log> ~patience
Jan 07 19:03:39 <capbot> patience is a goodness
Jan 07 19:03:57 <caplink811_log> sto, http://phpfi.com/
Jan 07 19:03:58 <sto> T:  Bus=03 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
Jan 07 19:04:26 <caplink811_log> ByronT, around?
Jan 07 19:04:35 <caplink811_log> and sto, stop this posting
Jan 07 19:05:26 <jelle> sto, paste the outcome in http://phpfi.com/ or http://pastebin.com/
Jan 07 19:05:48 <sto> i did
Jan 07 19:06:03 <sto> http://phpfi.com/191501
Jan 07 19:06:04 <jelle> tell us the url
Jan 07 19:06:07 <jelle> thanks
Jan 07 19:06:11 <sto> :P
Jan 07 19:06:57 <sto> i typed in fdisk -l /dev/sda    and now i can see on the LED that the HDD is workin...
Jan 07 19:07:06 <sto> and telnet is freezed
Jan 07 19:08:13 <sto> omg if the usb cable caused the problems ill eat it
Jan 07 19:08:25 <caplink811_log> same chipset as mine, including the serial number
Jan 07 19:08:50 <caplink811_log> and recognised correct
Jan 07 19:09:21 <caplink811_log> by the system
Jan 07 19:09:37 <sto> hmmm.....so..what?
Jan 07 19:09:47 <jelle> still frozen>?
Jan 07 19:09:51 <sto> nah
Jan 07 19:10:02 <sto> but wait i think its formating
Jan 07 19:10:13 <jelle> that would be new
Jan 07 19:10:20 <caplink811_log> :)
Jan 07 19:10:46 <m1ch> jelle - caplink - i;ve sorted FXP
Jan 07 19:10:52 <m1ch> should i add it to the wiki?
Jan 07 19:10:58 <caplink811_log> sure
Jan 07 19:11:18 <m1ch> ahh - password protected!
Jan 07 19:11:27 <m1ch> is there a quick way i can get a password?
Jan 07 19:11:32 <drif> m1ch: using standard linksys ftp I assume?
Jan 07 19:11:37 <drif> +d
Jan 07 19:11:59 <m1ch> no - that would not support FXP so i had to set up and use vsftpd
Jan 07 19:12:40 <sto> ok its formating..i'll be back later
Jan 07 19:12:44 <jelle> m1ch: adding to the wiki would ge nice. just register and login
Jan 07 19:12:59 <sto> looks fine, right now, shitty cable...
Jan 07 19:13:08 <jelle> sto: how can you tell? did you issue a format (mkfs) command?
Jan 07 19:13:10 <caplink811_log> hm, self formating slugs, seems to be a new feature
Jan 07 19:13:25 <jelle> cool. I want one. to give away of course
Jan 07 19:13:52 <caplink811_log> as a gift for the best enemies
Jan 07 19:13:55 <jelle> "hey, plug your usb stick into this and see what happens!!!!" lol
Jan 07 19:14:59 <jelle> sto should write a "cool Peripherals " page in the wiki
Jan 07 19:15:36 <caplink811_log> may be that this is the reason for the alzheimer's disease of my slugs
Jan 07 19:17:21 <jelle> hey, not as bad as my mutli-personality slug. sometimes it recognizes it's friend (the usb disk), sometimes it doesn't :)
Jan 07 19:17:49 <caplink811_log> a mps..
Jan 07 19:17:51 <m1ch> stupid question coming up - how do i register so i can get a password to add info to the wiki!?
Jan 07 19:18:01 <jelle> I made a special startup script on the disk and on the slug itself, to generate happy beeps when it does, and sad beeps when it doesn;t
Jan 07 19:19:21 <jelle> m1ch: goto http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/SetupVSFTPServer  or something like it
Jan 07 19:19:36 <jelle> follow the link "createHowTo....."
Jan 07 19:19:40 <jelle> type the page
Jan 07 19:20:17 <jelle> Enter your name or m1ch in tje name part
Jan 07 19:20:21 <jelle> save it
Jan 07 19:20:25 <jelle> you get the idea
Jan 07 19:20:26 <caplink811_log> back in 3 minutes
Jan 07 19:20:47 <jelle> k
Jan 07 19:20:55 <jelle> I'll watch the yard
Jan 07 19:23:19 <sto> ok I WILL F*** my old usb cable
Jan 07 19:23:24 <sto> it works now
Jan 07 19:23:29 <jelle> great[ 
Jan 07 19:23:56 <jelle> maybe you can use the old cable to recharge the battery on some devices
Jan 07 19:24:20 <sto> nah i will screw it more fun
Jan 07 19:24:51 <sto> ok ty dudes
Jan 07 19:24:59 <sto> more question il come
Jan 07 19:26:14 <caplink811-log> m1ch, maybe you can append your informations on this http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Vsftpd
Jan 07 19:26:29 <caplink811-log> oh, sto will give up?
Jan 07 19:27:29 <caplink811-log> or do i missed a great success?
Jan 07 19:28:38 <mwester-laptop> ~botsnack
Jan 07 19:28:39 <capbot> mwester-laptop: aw, gee
Jan 07 19:28:42 <jelle> sto was happy
Jan 07 19:28:52 <jelle> and ate one of his usb cables
Jan 07 19:29:10 <jelle> I hope he ate the right one
Jan 07 19:29:23 <mwester-laptop> Are you guys making people eat USB cables, now? :)
Jan 07 19:29:27 <jelle> or the buggy one I mean
Jan 07 19:29:45 <jelle> mwester-laptop: yes, it is part of the slug pledging ritual
Jan 07 19:29:53 <jelle> you didn;t eat one yet?
Jan 07 19:30:10 <mwester-laptop> LOL!  I hope it was not soldered with lead-based solder.
Jan 07 19:30:33 <jelle> consideing how badly it behaved, I assume not
Jan 07 19:31:20 <m1ch> added it here - i'll let someone else move it if necessary:
Jan 07 19:31:21 <m1ch> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/SetupFXPonVSFTPD
Jan 07 19:32:21 <mwester-laptop> BTW, we need volunteers to rewrite both the VSFTP and the OpenSSH pages on the Wiki - much good info on both of those, but they have grown very large.
Jan 07 19:32:31 * caplink811-log thinks, the last words from sto sounds like a threat
Jan 07 19:33:02 <mwester-laptop> Methinks we need a "basic install & config" page as well as one with the details...
Jan 07 19:33:13 <jelle> m1ch: thanks
Jan 07 19:34:39 <m1ch> thanks again all
Jan 07 19:34:43 <m1ch> i'm off for tonight
Jan 07 19:35:09 <jelle> bye m1ch
Jan 07 19:35:12 <caplink811-log> mwester, me thinks, that the config is described at http://www.vsftpdrocks.org/, maybe a link to this page is enough
Jan 07 19:35:52 <m1ch> mwester - can you email me what you want someone to do about the vsftpd wiki page?
Jan 07 19:36:09 <m1ch> i've made my own HOWTO which i will add to my own site (and i've saved all links etc)
Jan 07 19:36:15 <m1ch> my email is mike@mperrin.co.uk
Jan 07 19:36:25 <m1ch> drop me an email if you would like me to add something
Jan 07 19:36:30 <m1ch> gtg
Jan 07 19:36:32 <m1ch> byeeee
Jan 07 19:36:39 <caplink811-log> m1ch, bye
Jan 07 19:36:40 <mwester-laptop> m1ch: thanks - I'll organize my thoughts and email.
Jan 07 19:37:23 <mwester-laptop> caplink811 - network troubles?
Jan 07 19:37:44 <caplink811> no, the daily 24h provider cutoff
Jan 07 19:38:25 <mwester-laptop> Ah.  Ok.
Jan 07 19:42:32 * mwester-laptop goes off in search of a very short USB cable, in order to complete the "slug pledging ritual" per jelle...
Jan 07 19:42:47 <caplink811> ;)
Jan 07 19:45:04 <jelle> :)
Jan 07 19:45:26 <jelle> I used a retractable usb cable....
Jan 07 20:24:46 <sto> hi me is back
Jan 07 20:25:02 <sto> now , after 3 days, my HDD is as EXT 3 formatted
Jan 07 20:25:10 <sto> but
Jan 07 20:25:29 <sto> if i type in /sbin/unsling
Jan 07 20:26:28 <sto> it says: Error: /share/flash/data does not appear to have been formatted by the Linksys formatting utility.  Please go to the web interface
Jan 07 20:27:05 <Naib> have u mounted the drive?
Jan 07 20:27:42 <sto> hmm...how?
Jan 07 20:27:50 <sto> im a newby sry
Jan 07 20:30:10 <sto> i have now, sda1 = linux, sda2= linux, sda3 = swap
Jan 07 20:34:43 <caplink811> does /share/flash/conf/.dongle exists?
Jan 07 20:35:27 <caplink811> and the disk is recognised by the linksys webinterface?
Jan 07 20:38:39 <sto> yea as EXT3
Jan 07 20:39:18 <sto> how do i see if it exists? just type?
Jan 07 20:39:49 <sto>  /share/flash/conf/.dongle: No such file or directory
Jan 07 20:44:31 <caplink811> is any partition mounted? use the mount command, in the screen output, you should see something about /dev/sda1 AND /dev/sda2
Jan 07 20:45:25 <sto>   
Jan 07 20:45:36 <sto>   /dev/sda1 on /share/flash/data type ext3
Jan 07 20:48:22 <caplink811> more output will follow, or is that all? my crystal ball is damaged
Jan 07 20:48:42 <caplink811> ???
Jan 07 20:49:51 <sto> thers is much more
Jan 07 20:49:57 <sto> but i need to mount sda2
Jan 07 20:50:19 <sto> can u give me again that link with copy and paste bin..stuff
Jan 07 20:50:25 <caplink811> no, you need to format your disk correctly
Jan 07 20:51:32 <sto> k can u give me the site where i can post the command lines?
Jan 07 20:51:34 <jelle> (sto: the link is pastebin.com)
Jan 07 20:51:39 <sto> k
Jan 07 20:51:40 <sto> ty
Jan 07 20:52:09 <caplink811> you know the whole procedure, plug the disk on your win box, create one fat32/ntfs whatever partiton, format it, restart the nslu, plug the disk on it, and let the nslu format the disk, and be patient at each step
Jan 07 20:52:43 <sto> http://pastebin.com/853778
Jan 07 20:54:00 <caplink811> i like to assume, that unsling only will work, if there are some known files on /dev/sda2, aka /share/flash/conf
Jan 07 20:54:59 <sto> i have sda 2
Jan 07 20:55:07 <sto>  and stuff but i think its not mounted
Jan 07 20:56:51 <sto> http://pastebin.com/853782
Jan 07 20:57:03 <sto> watch it
Jan 07 20:58:33 <sto> should i type "  mke2fs -j -N 20000 -m 0 /dev/sda1 " to format ?
Jan 07 20:59:01 <caplink811> you know the whole procedure, plug the disk on your win box, create one fat32/ntfs whatever partiton, format it, restart the nslu, plug the disk on it, and let the nslu format the disk, and be patient at each step
Jan 07 20:59:48 <sto> plug it on as extern or over IDE cable?
Jan 07 20:59:59 <jelle> use usb
Jan 07 21:00:04 <sto> k
Jan 07 21:01:20 <sto> and i should now format the disk as fat
Jan 07 21:01:39 <sto> or make a partion in fart
Jan 07 21:01:41 <sto> :D
Jan 07 21:01:42 <sto> fat
Jan 07 21:03:08 <jelle> sto, it is all quite well documented in the wiki, and in the readme that comes with the firmware. can you check that?
Jan 07 21:03:32 <jelle> of course the faulty usb cable wasn't, so we're glad you ate that one
Jan 07 21:03:49 <sto> :-P
Jan 07 21:04:10 <sto> ok well thx
Jan 07 21:39:55 <jelle> bye for now
Jan 07 23:34:35 <Liam> Hey folks, im trying to 'emerge samba' on my NSLU2 running gentoo yet i get the following error (http://pastebin.com/853800) Can anyone help at all? Cheers in advance
Jan 07 23:37:09 <HoStyle> i dunno soz
Jan 07 23:37:22 <Liam> np
Jan 07 23:37:32 <HoStyle> i hope you lucky :)
Jan 07 23:38:09 <Liam> not really, im struggling to get it all working, one problem after another and im a complete novice to linux which doesnt help!
Jan 07 23:39:00 <Liam> Is there any perticular reason why compiles would fail? never come across it before.
Jan 07 23:47:47 <eno> Liam: try to add more swap ?
Jan 07 23:48:33 <eno> do you have distcc working? you should off-load compilation to other PC(s)
Jan 07 23:50:43 <Liam> its running off a 1 gig flash drive so not a lot of room tbh. And no, dont have any other linux machines around.
Jan 07 23:51:33 <Liam> I've got a large fat32 usb drive, is it possible to create a swap file on it? So i can then delete it when im done? Dont want to change anything around on that drive.
Jan 07 23:51:37 <eno> i've seen similar compilation error, it was due to out-of-swap
Jan 07 23:52:12 <eno> flash drive is no good for swap
Jan 07 23:52:28 <Liam> i agree, but at the time it was the only thing i had around. 
Jan 07 23:52:37 <eno> but it can work, you can create a swap file
Jan 07 23:52:55 <Liam> Is there a command to show the swap space available?
Jan 07 23:52:56 <eno> turn swap on, after it's done, turn swap off
Jan 07 23:53:10 <eno> free or top
Jan 07 23:53:53 <eno> 'emerge samba' on a slug without distcc does not seem to be a good idea to me
Jan 07 23:53:58 <eno> will take forever
Jan 07 23:54:10 <Liam> and it was
Jan 07 23:54:21 <Liam> but was my only option.
Jan 07 23:54:42 <eno> then why it has to be gentoo?
Jan 07 23:55:29 <Liam> it doesnt have to be, but i started off with unslung, then Debian but had loads of problems with the installer crashing. So now trying gentoo
Jan 07 23:56:20 <Liam> i think i've just found my problem... Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,     5852k cached
Jan 07 23:59:55 <eno> Liam: what's wrong with unslung?
Jan 08 00:01:17 <Liam> I had issues with it, i think i needed some packages that it didnt have or something. 
Jan 08 00:01:49 <Liam> tbh im just using it as a learning experience... i'm having loads of problems atm but it's helping me learn at the same time so i dont mind...assuming i make a bit of progress now and again
Jan 08 00:07:15 <eno> please add to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/PackageWishList the missing package
Jan 08 00:13:03 <chacko> Liam, do you have much space left on your main flash drive?  additional swap files can be added in a pinch
Jan 08 00:15:00 <Liam> yeah i do...but i think the problem was when i moved my swap partition around and didnt update the fstab...so basically i havent had one for a while! :-s
Jan 08 00:15:24 <Liam> but for curiosity's sake..how do would you go about adding a swap file?
Jan 08 00:16:03 <chacko> ok, after you add your normal swap file, if you still need more space, pse ask me, I am using swap files in the same partition
Jan 08 00:16:21 <chacko> use my name in your msg, I have my irc in the background
Jan 08 00:16:30 <Liam> ok np :)
Jan 08 00:16:33 <Liam> cheers
Jan 08 00:16:47 <eno> just google "linux add swap file"
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