**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 16 02:59:57 2007 Jan 16 11:02:32 good morning, Jan 16 11:07:58 yes Jan 16 19:46:22 is there a way to return the nlsu2 to a bare unslung6.8beta so it can be re-unsling'd? Jan 16 19:46:41 disconnect the HD? Jan 16 19:46:52 that simple huh? Jan 16 19:47:09 if you boot without hdd, you're getting base f/w and nothing else Jan 16 19:47:18 so then i cound unsling the same unit to another device and test it with different configs? Jan 16 19:47:28 if you want to wipe the drive, re-format it in the interface and then re-unsling Jan 16 19:48:00 yes, the config information (packages, etc.) is always on the hdd from which it boots Jan 16 19:48:26 but something of the config seems to stay? like a share or users? Jan 16 19:48:58 shares are associated with the hd, as are users Jan 16 19:49:12 you can confirm by booting without HD and then going to the Linksys config pages Jan 16 19:49:20 hmm maybe not... maybe just me - i thought my usb stick was staying shared Jan 16 19:49:34 which will tell you that you must have a connected device to have shares / users / etc. Jan 16 19:50:02 so beyond the external storage there is no persistent data stored? Jan 16 19:50:38 well.... not completely true.... but for sake of shortness/ease "yes" Jan 16 19:50:48 heh ok :) Jan 16 19:51:02 you can make more permanent type changes... but not recommended Jan 16 19:51:45 yeah not in my field of expertise so not even going there Jan 16 19:51:47 mainly because if you screw up with the "more permanent" then recovery is not as easy as "unplug hdd" and fix Jan 16 19:52:06 it can be "fun".... :) Jan 16 19:53:53 i'm currently unsling'd to a hdd but now want to do a usb stick. then i can keep it all running under the same config but just swap out the hdd Jan 16 19:54:27 you have to be careful - standard warnings on port usage apply Jan 16 19:54:44 you mean port 2 for flash, 1 for hdd ? Jan 16 19:55:10 or mounting/un drives? Jan 16 19:55:12 not so much - really how R63 treats drives Jan 16 19:55:32 if you format that HD before re-connecting it, you should be fine Jan 16 19:56:00 but if you unsling the flash disk and then connect a hd that has previously been unslung, you can have "funniness" Jan 16 19:56:02 can i not just boot with no drives - format each hdd with web? Jan 16 19:56:15 yes, you should be fine in that case Jan 16 19:56:24 :0 thanks Jan 16 20:02:41 ok this maybe an obvious one - i'm used to using chkconfig - but if i just rename a service in init.d like S09named to _S09named it won't start, right? Jan 16 20:03:13 yep Jan 16 20:03:30 thanks Jan 16 21:02:34 any idea how i fix this? Jan 16 21:02:38 SLUG login: root Jan 16 21:02:38 Password: Jan 16 21:02:38 No directory, logging in with HOME=/ Jan 16 21:02:38 Welcome to Unslung V2.3R63-uNSLUng-6.8-beta Jan 16 21:02:38 -------- NOTE: RUNNING FROM INTERNAL FLASH -------- Jan 16 21:02:38 This system is currently running from the internal flash memory, Jan 16 21:02:40 it has NOT booted up into "unslung" mode from an external drive. Jan 16 21:02:42 In this mode, very few services are running, and available disk Jan 16 21:02:44 space is extremely limited. This mode is normally only used Jan 16 21:02:46 for initial installation, and system maintenance and recovery. Jan 16 21:02:48 Cannot execute /opt/bin/sh: No such file or directory Jan 16 21:02:50 Connection to host lost. Jan 16 21:03:22 this with no disks connected :( Jan 16 21:18:37 seems, that it isn't a good idea, to change the shell for the root user to something what isn't available at aanytime/any circumstance Jan 16 21:19:11 warlord0, ^^^^^^ Jan 16 21:19:27 heh i wasnt aware i had! Jan 16 21:19:47 is my only recourse redboot? Jan 16 21:24:05 so, that happens, when you booted without a disk, which behavior do you see, when you boot with a disk attached= Jan 16 21:24:18 s/=/? Jan 16 21:24:38 same. as i dont has an unslinged drive anymore :( Jan 16 21:25:58 time to reflash, i'll assume Jan 16 21:26:14 just tried - i get bad file format :( Jan 16 21:26:28 within the webinterface? Jan 16 21:26:33 yeah Jan 16 21:27:04 takes 5mins of orange led then web gui returns bad file or format Jan 16 21:27:32 i'm guess in the /etc/passwd is stored in the sysconf area that is writable Jan 16 21:27:43 but i now can't get there Jan 16 21:28:00 well, that shows me, that you never read the readme.. flashing via webinterface wont work with unslung firmware, you should use the sercomm (win environment) or upslug Jan 16 21:28:27 the link to secom isn't working either Jan 16 21:28:43 http://www.sercomm.com/web/download.nsf/cd9678c311095856482566a5000aac9e/7f17bf7344cfc12f482566aa00389845/$FILE/Upgrade_207_XP.exe Jan 16 21:29:26 if you gather a loggin prompt, then you may have luck with fiddling around with /dev/mtdblock4, maybe... but reflashing seems much faster Jan 16 21:29:48 gather a login? Jan 16 21:30:13 do you know a mirror for the sercom updater? Jan 16 21:30:14 http://www.jrbnet.de/texte/sc_uu.zip should work Jan 16 21:30:36 get a login, i meant Jan 16 21:30:57 that'll learn me not to put in a backdoor first Jan 16 21:31:41 but, 1st you could try reset_sysconf, which is described in the wiki howto's Jan 16 21:31:59 would that alone get recreated in full? Jan 16 21:32:17 it maybe reset your passwd Jan 16 21:32:28 hmm worth a shot Jan 16 21:32:58 maybe, that root password defaults to uNSLUng then Jan 16 21:33:06 would make sense Jan 16 21:33:11 i'll try it. Jan 16 21:51:49 ok all redbooted and back for 2.3r29... now to start again :) Jan 16 21:52:12 i was somewhat scared of redboot - now i've done it it's not so bad Jan 16 21:54:01 ahh doesn't seem to have reset to factory defaults though. it still remember the ip and server name etc Jan 16 21:56:44 from my memories, power down, hold the reset button, power on, still hold the button, and release it after ~10 secs, should reset to factory defaults Jan 16 21:56:57 :) just ahead of ya Jan 16 21:57:05 only just Jan 16 22:05:19 hmm actuall it keeps everything but appears to rewrite passwd so i can now logon Jan 17 00:08:28 Hello? Jan 17 00:12:26 yes? Jan 17 00:13:20 Question about Unslung Jan 17 00:14:35 ask Jan 17 00:14:42 For some time now, everytime I power down the slug, the disk is not recognizable upon reboot. Jan 17 00:14:51 I get the not formatted condition Jan 17 00:14:58 which disk? Jan 17 00:15:29 I have one hard drive (250 gb) connected to the flash port Jan 17 00:15:32 so it boots from flash instead? Jan 17 00:15:39 internal Jan 17 00:15:44 Running unslung 6.8 Jan 17 00:16:10 external drive connected to the flash port Jan 17 00:16:10 does it recognize it after boot? Jan 17 00:16:14 no Jan 17 00:16:22 so you can't even manually mount it? Jan 17 00:16:32 I go into the web interface and says not formatted Jan 17 00:16:39 can't mount manually either Jan 17 00:16:56 fsck doesn't seem to work either from telnet Jan 17 00:16:59 what does fdisk -l say? Jan 17 00:17:16 I usually have to remove it connect it to another PC. Jan 17 00:17:23 I use a live CD to run fsck Jan 17 00:17:53 If I just run fsck, it says the file system is clean. Jan 17 00:18:31 I then force a check (I forget the switch) and it finds/corrects error Jan 17 00:18:57 After about 3-4 hours of scanning, I can then reconnect it back to the nslu and I'm on my way Jan 17 00:19:16 It is just a pisser to keep doing this everytime I reboot Jan 17 00:19:22 so it seems to corrupt it on regular basis? Jan 17 00:19:35 which brand? Jan 17 00:19:37 and model Jan 17 00:19:40 the hdd Jan 17 00:21:51 We had a power outage from the ice storm Jan 17 00:22:00 hitachi Jan 17 00:22:18 wait one.. Jan 17 00:24:14 I can't open the case at the moment. I am backing up the files off of it. Jan 17 00:24:53 well, I'm more interested into case's brand Jan 17 00:25:04 It is either a Hitachi Deskstar 250 or Western Digital 250gb. It is about 9 months old. This happened to the previous drive. Jan 17 00:25:15 also? Jan 17 00:28:17 http://www.upgradehighway.com/brand/The_TT-335_Series_enclosure_is_designed_for_any_5-25_IDE_storage_drives_such_as_TT-335U2.htm Jan 17 00:30:29 happened to previous drive? you have different drive in use now? Jan 17 00:31:15 I opened one of my other cases (same model). It has the Deathstar in it. So I went from the Deathstar to the Western Digital. Jan 17 00:31:21 Both drives did it. Jan 17 00:31:28 using same enclosure? Jan 17 00:31:30 This didn't always happen Jan 17 00:31:32 Yes Jan 17 00:31:48 I would buy different brand enclosure Jan 17 00:31:52 I want to say in the Unslung 4.x days, I didn't have this problem. Jan 17 00:32:25 Can you recommend one? Jan 17 00:33:16 I've used these delock ones..although those are just ports for quick swaps - otherwise I've used actual external hdds Jan 17 00:33:16 Let me ask this... Jan 17 00:33:54 I typically put my PC's into standby (Windows XP). Could this lead to corrupt file system? Jan 17 00:34:22 ... if I have a file open with the Windows machine in standby and I reboot the slug? Jan 17 00:34:32 your XP is also corrupting disks?-o Jan 17 00:34:48 now I'm not quite following.. Jan 17 00:34:57 no. I am accessing files from Windows machines on the network Jan 17 00:35:21 well, it shouldn't affect anything else than that specific file..if any Jan 17 00:35:22 Hard drive connected to slug to router to another pc Jan 17 00:35:33 because reboot process closes the handles Jan 17 00:35:43 Thats what I thought Jan 17 00:35:48 so it actually doesn't affect any files on slug.. Jan 17 00:36:14 my bet is on the usb-enclosure and the chip it's using Jan 17 00:36:24 The chipset is ALI Jan 17 00:36:33 in the enclosure, that is. Jan 17 00:36:36 yes Jan 17 00:37:16 hard to recommend any..I've used Maxtor Personal Storage 3100 and WD Passport (with power adapter) Jan 17 00:38:07 which aren't enclosures as such Jan 17 00:39:27 passport acted bit similar without power adapter, had to call customer service and order one (for free though) Jan 17 00:39:41 I am about to put the linksys firmware back on it to see if I can isolate it to the firmware. If it trashes the filesystem with the linksys firmware, then I know that it is then enclosure. Jan 17 00:40:11 it's the same firmware... Jan 17 00:41:26 I have all the stuff backed up, it's just a pain the ... to get it working again, everytime we have an outage. I do have battery backup. Jan 17 00:41:34 UPS? Jan 17 00:41:37 ah Jan 17 00:41:38 yes Jan 17 00:41:48 long periods then? Jan 17 00:41:54 my power seems to be unreliable here Jan 17 00:42:17 ICE storm yesterday. ~36 hours Jan 17 00:42:41 electrical work about 2 months ago... Jan 17 00:43:26 you could try to get your slug working with ups..shutdown when it emits the signal Jan 17 00:43:48 i'm not that smart Jan 17 00:44:35 The slug usually doesn't just lose power. I usually power down the slug before I turn the battery off. Jan 17 00:45:10 Just pressing the little green button or issuing the reboot command from ssh is enough to cause problems Jan 17 00:45:38 which services you're running Jan 17 00:45:43 (I do power down the slug first, then the HDD.) Jan 17 00:46:21 I reinstalled unslung 6.8 a few months ago so it is fairly clean... Jan 17 00:46:31 I know openssh is running Jan 17 00:46:46 I did have a trial of twonkey running Jan 17 00:47:03 which is? Jan 17 00:47:12 twonkey vision, media server Jan 17 00:47:19 trial? Jan 17 00:47:21 yes Jan 17 00:47:30 30 day trial Jan 17 00:47:38 on slug? Jan 17 00:48:47 yes Jan 17 00:49:24 last version used to run for 20 minutes before you had to restart the service. That was the previous limitation of twonkeyvision Jan 17 00:49:26 and using which device to watch'em? Jan 17 00:49:31 xbox 360 Jan 17 00:49:46 just music Jan 17 00:49:58 Doesn't support videos to the 360 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 17 00:54:12 2007 Jan 17 00:54:29 I've tried ccxstream with my modded xbox Jan 17 00:55:38 so strange this latest splinter cell is much better on old xbox :D Jan 17 00:56:29 not a big fan of the 1st person shooters on the console Jan 17 00:57:18 the Wii seems better with the pointing device Jan 17 00:57:32 for 1st person shooters Jan 17 00:58:30 I tried COD3, but it had a weird fisheye effect when you looked around. Jan 17 00:58:53 and you had to keep the remote pointed at the center of the screen the whole time Jan 17 00:59:17 first person shooter? splinter cell? Jan 17 00:59:54 not much shooting required if you play it right Jan 17 01:01:35 thought it was 1st person. Jan 17 01:02:00 Some of these games are hard to tell what the gameplay looks like from some of the screenshots Jan 17 01:02:15 They like to show a screenshots of the cut scenes Jan 17 01:03:31 i have to run. Thanks for the info. I will try a different enclosure. Jan 17 02:36:48 hi Jan 17 02:37:26 i have flashed my slug with debianslug-3.10-beta, installed (with turnup -i disk..) the root fs on a usb harddisk and rebooted it, but now it seems to have frozen Jan 17 02:38:03 it's not answering pings, the status led is off, although the ethernet led is flashing as ping packets go through the hub... Jan 17 02:40:26 the disk flashes briefly as the os loads (led flashing green/red) Jan 17 02:40:36 now it stopped flashing **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 17 02:59:57 2007