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Jan 30 03:15:22 <jmbrowning> my unslung still has the default admin-admin as the userid/passwd pair, but if i fudge it up, i get a request for management userid/passwd pair, but I can't find management in the users list under administration.
Jan 30 03:15:35 <jmbrowning> Can someone help?
Jan 30 03:38:00 <mwester-laptop> jimbrowning: "management userid/passwd" refers to admin/admin.
Jan 30 03:41:23 <jmbrowning> mwester-laptop: thanks! how can I get rid of that default userid pair? I'd like to put the nslu2 up on a public network but not have it have that gaping security flaw!
Jan 30 03:42:47 <mwester-laptop> You can't change the admin userid - but you can change the password.  What sort of access are you considering offering all the crackers and other lowlifes?
Jan 30 03:44:22 <jmbrowning> mwester-laptop: let me try changing the admin password. I didn't think that would do it because the default password has like ten characters in it not five "admin".
Jan 30 03:46:07 <mwester-laptop> It only looks that way on the interface; it should obscure the true length.  But regardless, if you give access to the Linksys web gui to the internet, it's only a matter of time before it gets cracked.
Jan 30 03:49:41 <jmbrowning> mwester-laptop: OK, is it possible to configure the "factory" thttpd to only respond to a particular ip address? I'm on a fixed IP network. I was figuring I could use just one machine for maintenance or alternatively use SSH to tunnel in and have the thttpd only respond to 127.0.0.1
Jan 30 03:51:07 <jmbrowning> mwester-laptop: thanks for your help BTW.
Jan 30 03:58:16 <mwester-laptop> jimbrowning: there's nothing you can do on the NSLU2 itself to protect it -- the problem is that if it ever boots and fails to recognize it's hard drive, it will boot with the default passwords and be vulnerable again.  You really need a firewall device.
Jan 30 04:04:50 <jmbrowning> mwester-laptop: ah ok, I get what you are saying. I hadn't thought of hardware failure leading to a security breach. I'll just read through acme.com's documentation on thttpd and see if I can figure out how to restrict access to port 81 to the localhost and just use ssh forwarding. I know that unslung is probably not the most secure distribution for the nslu2 but I'm just trying to figure...
Jan 30 04:04:52 <jmbrowning> ...out ways to patch up the holes as much as possible
Jan 30 04:12:21 <mwester-laptop> There has been little attention paid to hardening Unslung, since basically it is limited to what Linksys' firmware provides by way of security.  Unless you restrict internet access to SSH, FTP, and take care to manage those services, it *will* get hacked.
Jan 30 05:02:22 <jmbrowning> hmm no iptables in unslung...:(
Jan 30 05:04:31 <jmbrowning> oops found it: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/EnableFirewall
Jan 30 05:20:26 <jmbrowning> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/EnableFirewall. Says it's been tested on 5.5. Would this also work on 6.8?
Jan 30 07:46:07 <New004-lagmaster> does anyone know if i use a plam with a usb cradle if i can still do the Palm as LCD-Display or terminal
Jan 30 12:43:18 <NSLU2-IRC> h
Jan 30 12:44:37 <stojan> hi i have a problem
Jan 30 12:45:18 <stojan> nslu webinterface shows that i have a FAT32 HDD then i format and its still Fat32
Jan 30 12:45:22 <stojan> but i want ext3
Jan 30 12:49:53 <stojan> USB Port 1: Multiple Drives Ready (FAT/NTFS)
Jan 30 13:02:04 <stojan> and i want to put unslung on the nslu, but it says NOT FORMATED
Jan 30 13:02:24 <stojan> and after i press format buton it says after a while...NOT FORMATTED
Jan 30 19:54:00 <kais0r> hi
Jan 30 22:58:43 <PierreTramo> hi!
Jan 30 22:59:12 <PierreTramo> does anyone know the exact size of the PCB please? (this question has nothing to do here, i'm sorry)
Jan 30 23:05:38 <New004-lagmaster> PCB?
Jan 30 23:08:09 <New004-lagmaster> let me see
Jan 30 23:09:03 <New004-lagmaster> 4.5 in tall in back
Jan 30 23:09:44 <New004-lagmaster> 3.5 from back of usb to front
Jan 30 23:11:32 <New004-lagmaster> it is basicly the size of there shell
Jan 30 23:16:07 <New004-lagmaster> minus a 1/4 in on each side
Jan 30 23:17:54 <PierreTramo> woops
Jan 30 23:17:58 <PierreTramo> centimeters please? :D
Jan 30 23:18:03 <PierreTramo> New004-lagmaster: thx a lot
Jan 30 23:18:10 <New004-lagmaster> google
Jan 30 23:18:14 <PierreTramo> yep, thx
Jan 30 23:18:37 <PierreTramo> that's inches? (i'm french and bad at UK/US units)
Jan 30 23:18:40 <New004-lagmaster> you are welcome
Jan 30 23:19:01 <New004-lagmaster> use google calculator
Jan 30 23:19:13 <PierreTramo> i guess so, it fits in the range i supposed
Jan 30 23:19:23 <PierreTramo> yep, i told him 4.5 inches in centimeters
Jan 30 23:19:53 <PierreTramo> and does it have powered USBs?
Jan 30 23:19:58 <PierreTramo> or are they passive?
Jan 30 23:20:17 <PierreTramo> (i'd like to use a 2.5" USB-powered harddrive with it)
Jan 30 23:21:42 <New004-lagmaster> the average 2.5" drive is smaller than the PCB
Jan 30 23:22:28 <PierreTramo> ok, but that's more a problem of powered USB or not
Jan 30 23:22:47 <PierreTramo> i guess it's powered
Jan 30 23:23:08 <PierreTramo> but i've seen so many passive ARM devices i can't bear buying it without asking
Jan 30 23:23:31 <New004-lagmaster> yes the usb are powerful enough to run a 2.5" drive 
Jan 30 23:23:37 <PierreTramo> ok, thanks a lot
Jan 30 23:24:20 <New004-lagmaster> i have my newer slug powering and old 6 Gb drive i pulled out of an old Laptop
Jan 30 23:24:41 <PierreTramo> i pulled out a 40GB drive ;)
Jan 30 23:35:50 <eno> PierreTramo: the units package is handy to convert units on command line
Jan 31 00:04:56 <rds> Hello, I'm ready to install Debian in my nslu2, can I backup the original firmware? I can't find an option
Jan 31 01:25:34 <drif> you mean linksys original?
Jan 31 01:26:27 <drif> if so, I don't see the reason - you can always obtain it from linksys' site
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