**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 10 02:59:57 2007
Feb 10 08:27:48 <jmbrowning> i installed the bash ipkg but i am missing bashrc and bash_profile. Where can I find these files?
Feb 10 10:09:51 <barnseen1o> just find an example off the web
Feb 10 10:09:57 <barnseen1o> theres not much magic in them
Feb 10 10:10:51 <barnseen1o> > cat .bash_profile
Feb 10 10:10:51 <barnseen1o> # ~/.bash_profile: executed by bash(1) for login shells.
Feb 10 10:10:51 <barnseen1o> # see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files for examples.
Feb 10 10:10:51 <barnseen1o> # the files are located in the bash-doc package.
Feb 10 10:10:52 <barnseen1o> # the default umask is set in /etc/login.defs
Feb 10 10:10:54 <barnseen1o> #umask 022
Feb 10 10:10:57 <barnseen1o> # include .bashrc if it exists
Feb 10 10:10:59 <barnseen1o> if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc
Feb 10 10:11:04 <barnseen1o> fi
Feb 10 10:11:39 <barnseen1o> and my bashrc includes my prompt format and some shortcuts
Feb 10 10:11:48 <barnseen1o> > cat  .bashrc
Feb 10 10:11:48 <barnseen1o> # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
Feb 10 10:11:50 <barnseen1o> #export PS1='\u:\w\$ '
Feb 10 10:11:50 <barnseen1o> export PS1="\[\e]2;\u@\H \w\a\e[32;1m\]>\[\e[0m\] "
Feb 10 10:11:50 <barnseen1o> umask 022
Feb 10 10:11:50 <barnseen1o> # You may uncomment the following lines if you want `ls' to be colorized:
Feb 10 10:11:54 <barnseen1o> export LS_OPTIONS='--color=auto'
Feb 10 10:11:56 <barnseen1o> eval "`dircolors`"
Feb 10 10:11:59 <barnseen1o> alias ls='ls $LS_OPTIONS'
Feb 10 10:12:00 <barnseen1o> alias ll='ls $LS_OPTIONS -l'
Feb 10 10:12:27 <barnseen1o> alias l='ls $LS_OPTIONS -lA'
Feb 10 10:12:27 <barnseen1o> #
Feb 10 10:12:27 <barnseen1o> # Some more alias to avoid making mistakes:
Feb 10 10:12:27 <barnseen1o> # alias rm='rm -i'
Feb 10 10:12:27 <barnseen1o> alias cp='cp -i'
Feb 10 10:12:28 <barnseen1o> alias mv='mv -i'
Feb 10 10:12:31 <barnseen1o> alias scr='screen -rd'
Feb 10 10:12:38 <barnseen1o> enough pasting ;-)
Feb 10 14:37:26 <voy74656> hi all - quick n00b question - just unslung my slug - all is well - just getting ready 2 install my 1st package but cant get the slug 2 ping properly - cant get access???
Feb 10 14:37:49 <voy74656> do i need 2 open any ports in router?
Feb 10 14:46:48 <drif> hi voy
Feb 10 14:47:42 <drif> well, no - if it access to internet isn't disabled per default (you need rule to allow it, usually not the case)
Feb 10 14:47:53 <drif> it=its
Feb 10 14:48:05 <voy74656> wait - im retarded
Feb 10 14:48:16 <drif> no gateway set? :D
Feb 10 14:48:25 <voy74656> *blushes*
Feb 10 14:49:42 <voy74656> horraaaa..its amazing what putting numbers in the right boxes will do!!
Feb 10 14:50:13 <voy74656> quick q drif - ive downloaded the amule package but dont quite understand where to put it on the hard drive
Feb 10 14:53:06 <voy74656> ok - just totally ignore me - its 2am and im retarded
Feb 10 14:53:26 <voy74656> making progress now if i actually red the docos
Feb 10 14:53:26 <drif> I had to change my OS
Feb 10 14:53:32 <drif> hence the delay
Feb 10 14:53:38 <voy74656> np
Feb 10 14:54:05 <drif> voy: why not ipkg install amule?
Feb 10 14:54:11 <voy74656> is it serioualy that easy 2 install packages??? 
Feb 10 14:54:12 <drif> why just download the package
Feb 10 14:54:15 <drif> yes
Feb 10 14:54:22 <voy74656> o.O
Feb 10 14:54:28 <voy74656> *waits patiendly*
Feb 10 14:54:49 <voy74656> this little slug has been the best little toy
Feb 10 14:54:56 <voy74656> so easy to spend hours after work playing with it
Feb 10 14:55:01 <drif> I know ;)
Feb 10 14:55:02 <voy74656> look up n 6 hours have just gone by!
Feb 10 14:55:12 <voy74656> i finished work @ 4pm...now 2am >.<
Feb 10 14:55:30 <voy74656> just slowly reading all the info on the site - but daunting @ times - lot there to get ur head around
Feb 10 14:55:42 <voy74656> plus i dont use linux
Feb 10 14:56:05 <drif> yes, and the pages aren't in best of shape - unfortunately
Feb 10 14:56:05 <voy74656> once its downloaded amule will slug auto load it when its powered up?
Feb 10 14:56:43 <voy74656> its not that there not in teh best of shape - just theres so much knowledge there! amazing how smart ppl are!
Feb 10 14:56:44 <drif> it depends, usually after the installation it output some post-install notes
Feb 10 14:56:49 <drif> +s
Feb 10 14:57:09 <drif> much knowledge - but not that well structured - imho
Feb 10 14:57:27 <drif> lots of deprecated info and crosslinked
Feb 10 14:57:38 <voy74656> when i first got it n it didnt support anything except 1 ext3 drive n a thumb drive i was like oh oh
Feb 10 14:58:09 <voy74656> now ive got 3 fat32 sata drives in enclosures through a 4 port usb hub all working awesomly!
Feb 10 14:58:29 <drif> I'm still using 5.5b :D
Feb 10 14:58:30 <voy74656> getting 6mb/sec on 100mit n/w read n 4-5mb write rate
Feb 10 14:58:35 <voy74656> me thinks thats awesom!!
Feb 10 14:58:53 <voy74656> ok - so slugs finished getting amule...just reboot n c what happens?
Feb 10 15:00:33 <voy74656> ive got my media centre hooked up 2 slug as well - all working perfectly
Feb 10 15:05:40 <voy74656> u still round drif?
Feb 10 15:05:49 <drif> yes
Feb 10 15:05:59 <drif> why reboot?
Feb 10 15:06:03 <voy74656> u got amule installed @ all?
Feb 10 15:06:34 <drif> nope, why?
Feb 10 15:07:04 <voy74656> just typed in ipkg status n amule's in there - not sure how 2 access it??
Feb 10 15:07:20 <voy74656> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Amule
Feb 10 15:07:36 <voy74656> says 2 use http://192.168.1.1:4711/ 
Feb 10 15:08:40 <drif> for browser control
Feb 10 15:08:40 <drif> is that realyl your slug's ip?
Feb 10 15:08:40 <drif> really
Feb 10 15:08:40 <voy74656> yeah - but cant acces it
Feb 10 15:08:40 <voy74656> nup - mines still default but still cant access
Feb 10 15:09:29 <drif> a sec
Feb 10 15:10:31 <voy74656> have forwarded the 4711 port 2 192.168.1.77 - slug still hates nw
Feb 10 15:10:32 <voy74656> me
Feb 10 15:12:25 <drif> you have firewall _between_ slug and your pc?
Feb 10 15:12:39 <voy74656> nup
Feb 10 15:12:40 <drif> or router
Feb 10 15:12:48 <voy74656> no firewalls @ all except router
Feb 10 15:12:51 <drif> why on earth then forward it?
Feb 10 15:13:01 <voy74656> cause it sounded good @ the time
Feb 10 15:13:03 <voy74656> :-p
Feb 10 15:13:13 <drif> :D maybe time for some sleepy time? ;)
Feb 10 15:15:09 <NSLU2-IRC> crap - soz
Feb 10 15:16:55 <drif> I see..
Feb 10 15:17:30 <NSLU2-IRC> tis me still drif - inet dropped out n cant change nick back
Feb 10 15:17:35 <drif> voy: did you reboot? if not, then execute /opt/etc/init.d/S57amuled
Feb 10 15:18:09 <NSLU2-IRC> execute: No such file or directory
Feb 10 15:18:18 <NSLU2-IRC> i did reboot after downloading amule
Feb 10 15:19:29 <drif> did I say there's command execute? :D
Feb 10 15:19:46 <drif> just include the full path as well /opt/etc... 
Feb 10 15:20:51 <NSLU2-IRC> Usage: /opt/etc/init.d/S57amuled (start|stop|restart)
Feb 10 15:21:11 <drif> start
Feb 10 15:21:15 <drif> :D
Feb 10 15:21:17 <NSLU2-IRC> just did that :-p
Feb 10 15:21:32 <drif> still no answer from that port?
Feb 10 15:21:45 <NSLU2-IRC> nope
Feb 10 15:23:45 <NSLU2-IRC> im not doing something right. does urs work ok?
Feb 10 15:25:25 <bern> Hallo
Feb 10 15:25:33 <NSLU2-IRC> howdy
Feb 10 15:25:45 <bern> I am new with the nslu2 and have some questions
Feb 10 15:26:01 <NSLU2-IRC> haha - join the club!
Feb 10 15:26:08 <NSLU2-IRC> lots 2 take in with this slug!
Feb 10 15:26:16 <bern> I ve just installed unslung, but i think about debian installation
Feb 10 15:26:59 <NSLU2-IRC> awesom! i just unslung mine a few hours ago
Feb 10 15:27:12 <bern> oh, me too, nice work
Feb 10 15:27:59 <NSLU2-IRC> just installing my 1st package but its giving me a headache - all downloaded n installed but wont load >.<
Feb 10 15:28:39 <bern> can you install additional package on the unslung firmware?
Feb 10 15:28:45 <drif> voy: bit busy at the moment, I'll look into it later - in case you're still battling with it then
Feb 10 15:28:49 <NSLU2-IRC> only if uve got it unslung
Feb 10 15:29:09 <NSLU2-IRC> if u do it without unslinging it 1st ull fill up the firmware n turn it in2 a brick
Feb 10 15:29:40 <bern> yep, but unslung is into the flash memory, installed from new device
Feb 10 15:29:57 <NSLU2-IRC> thanks drif!! ill leave my irc open n as long as the admins dont bounce me for not changing my nick i'll stay logged in
Feb 10 15:31:16 <NSLU2-IRC> moved from firmware onto hard disk/thumb drive etc so theres space 2 install packages
Feb 10 15:31:54 <bern> oh, thats what i tought, thx
Feb 10 15:32:47 <bern> how can i do this, move unnslung firmware to HD format xf3
Feb 10 15:33:04 <NSLU2-IRC> read a long and lengthy document n read it exactly 
Feb 10 15:33:10 <NSLU2-IRC> i find like 4 u - gimme sel
Feb 10 15:33:12 <NSLU2-IRC> sek
Feb 10 15:33:12 <bern> ok,nice
Feb 10 15:33:20 <bern> easy job
Feb 10 15:35:39 <NSLU2-IRC> w00h00!! my niks bak!!
Feb 10 15:35:49 <bern> have overclocked that thing too
Feb 10 15:36:04 <bern> niks gebakken?
Feb 10 15:36:19 <NSLU2-IRC> yup - overclocked mine 1st day i got it :-p
Feb 10 15:36:30 <bern> yep me too, 266 
Feb 10 15:36:33 <NSLU2-IRC> just searching for that doco now 4 ya
Feb 10 15:37:10 <caplink811_log> bern, you should read http://download.berlios.de/unslung/Unslung-6.8-beta-README.txt 1st
Feb 10 15:38:09 <NSLU2-IRC> thats the 1!!!
Feb 10 15:38:13 <NSLU2-IRC> ask the professionals :-p
Feb 10 15:38:31 <bern> oh thanks
Feb 10 15:38:42 <NSLU2-IRC> any ideas caplink why me cant access amule?
Feb 10 15:39:51 <caplink811> dunno, myself don't use this kind of sw, but make sure, that the application is running (use ps -ef|grep amule or sth.like that)
Feb 10 15:40:34 <NSLU2-IRC> ps -ef|grep amule 
Feb 10 15:40:57 <NSLU2-IRC> 564 ttyp0   root       2664   D   grep amule
Feb 10 15:41:09 <NSLU2-IRC> yup...
Feb 10 15:41:30 <caplink811> no,, this shows your own grep command
Feb 10 15:41:57 <NSLU2-IRC> sorry man - im an xp person
Feb 10 15:42:05 <caplink811> np
Feb 10 15:42:11 <NSLU2-IRC> grep?
Feb 10 15:42:45 <caplink811> ps -ef shows you all "running" processes
Feb 10 15:43:00 <NSLU2-IRC> ah - well amules running then
Feb 10 15:43:21 <caplink811> | will pipe the output of the 1st command to the next one
Feb 10 15:44:05 <caplink811> and grep bla will search in this output for the word amule, and show you the specific line from the ps command
Feb 10 15:45:41 <caplink811> k, it seems, that you should configure amuled 1st, before you can start it
Feb 10 15:45:57 <NSLU2-IRC> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Amule
Feb 10 15:46:08 <NSLU2-IRC> all the stuff @ the start ?
Feb 10 15:49:22 <bern> I ve just overclocked the device, but still not happy with transferrate, get 3,4 MBs, is there any way to boost the speed, some peoples are talking about 6-7 Mbs
Feb 10 15:50:53 <NSLU2-IRC> r u using samba or ftp?
Feb 10 15:50:58 <bern> ftp
Feb 10 15:51:10 <NSLU2-IRC> is that writing or reading ?
Feb 10 15:51:28 <bern> from pc to NSlU2
Feb 10 15:52:07 <bern> with flashftp,
Feb 10 15:52:31 <NSLU2-IRC> mines @ 4.5 - 4.7mb/sec
Feb 10 15:52:48 <bern> ok, faster than, wich prog you uses?
Feb 10 15:53:07 <NSLU2-IRC> cuteftp
Feb 10 15:53:16 <NSLU2-IRC> what format are ur drives?
Feb 10 15:53:18 <bern> oh, will try it
Feb 10 15:53:22 <NSLU2-IRC> ffound that makes a big difference
Feb 10 15:53:32 <NSLU2-IRC> tried ntfs 2 start with - only got 1.2mb/sec
Feb 10 15:53:45 <NSLU2-IRC> tried ext3 - got 3-3.5max
Feb 10 15:53:45 <bern> ok, have XF3 on disk 2 and ntfs on 1
Feb 10 15:53:50 <NSLU2-IRC> am on fat32 now n getting above
Feb 10 15:54:18 <bern> ok
Feb 10 15:54:20 <NSLU2-IRC> ive got fat32 across all 3x320gig sata drives going into 4 port usb hub on unslung slug 
Feb 10 15:55:16 <bern> i did it format to ntfs, but you lose than the permissions and share rights stuffs and i need it for the drembox
Feb 10 15:55:50 <NSLU2-IRC> am getting 5 to just over 6mb/sec from slug 2 pc
Feb 10 15:56:04 <bern> nice, on fat32 than?
Feb 10 15:56:07 <NSLU2-IRC> ya
Feb 10 15:56:17 <NSLU2-IRC> and im on 100mbit network so i cant expect much more
Feb 10 15:56:19 <bern> i will try now on ntfs; 
Feb 10 15:56:38 <NSLU2-IRC> dont rekon ull get great speeds on ntfs - went through the same issue when i first got my slug
Feb 10 15:56:46 <NSLU2-IRC> it'll work - just slowly
Feb 10 15:57:27 <NSLU2-IRC> ive found unslinging slug has also increased speeds as well - more consistent speeds - less fluctuation 
Feb 10 15:57:36 <bern> dam, only 1,2 t write to ntfs
Feb 10 15:57:49 <NSLU2-IRC> yup
Feb 10 15:58:05 <NSLU2-IRC> the format type makes a massive difference
Feb 10 15:58:18 <bern> yep, very strange
Feb 10 15:58:30 <NSLU2-IRC> mines only used for me media centre so i dont need any security or shares - media centre just picks up what ever netowrk drives i tell it 2
Feb 10 15:58:42 <bern> ok,
Feb 10 15:58:55 <NSLU2-IRC> slug isnt a speed machine - 266mhz with minimal ram
Feb 10 15:58:56 <bern> thats why I need Xf3
Feb 10 15:59:38 <bern> does it matter, there are external Nas with speeds to 7,8 mBs 
Feb 10 16:00:01 <NSLU2-IRC> yup - sure are - cost lots more 2 :-p
Feb 10 16:00:16 <bern> there are using a daemon 
Feb 10 16:00:48 <NSLU2-IRC> my slugs been really fristrating me the past few days but its finally starting to work more smoothly now
Feb 10 16:00:58 <bern> nice work
Feb 10 16:01:00 <NSLU2-IRC> just wanna get bit torrent + amule + scsi idle working n im done
Feb 10 16:01:12 <bern> just bought that thing, i need to boost 
Feb 10 16:01:26 <bern> ok, nice
Feb 10 16:01:52 <NSLU2-IRC> i tried lotsa ways to get ntfs workin faster but gave up n tried ext 3 then fat32 - fat32 gave me the best performance
Feb 10 16:01:56 <bern> is there any way to spin down the attached devices ?
Feb 10 16:02:04 <NSLU2-IRC> yup - scsiidle
Feb 10 16:02:23 <NSLU2-IRC> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/SpinDownUSBHarddisks
Feb 10 16:02:30 <bern> oh, thx
Feb 10 16:05:00 <bern> talking about Scsi disk, i have Sata, doesn t  it matter?
Feb 10 16:05:09 <NSLU2-IRC> mine r sata 2
Feb 10 16:05:17 <bern> ok, my too, 
Feb 10 16:10:17 <bern> scsi idle is a kernel patch, can i install that on unslung flashmemory
Feb 10 16:13:06 <NSLU2-IRC> i think so
Feb 10 16:13:18 <NSLU2-IRC> ive just installed it on the hard disk
Feb 10 16:13:31 <bern> reading about it, no easy way
Feb 10 16:14:04 <bern> unfortunaly , it s not integrated by the firmware, suppose its opensource
Feb 10 16:14:41 <NSLU2-IRC> not sure - anyways - my eyes are bout 2 fall out - been here for almost 12 hours o.O
Feb 10 16:14:45 <NSLU2-IRC> tis 3am n me need zzzzzzz
Feb 10 16:14:48 <NSLU2-IRC> nights dude!
Feb 10 16:14:48 <bern> lollll
Feb 10 16:15:03 <bern> bye and good luck
Feb 10 16:15:10 <NSLU2-IRC> same 2 u
Feb 10 16:16:20 <bern> The kernel patch will be included in the main OpenSlug images soon.
Feb 10 17:27:55 <jmbrowning> i installed lighttpd on unslung and was reviewing the conf and it doesn't reset the user/group of the lighttpd to nobody but leaves it as root. This seems insecure. I changed it to nobody (was #commented out). Then I couldn't access the log files and the process died. Should I make a user:group www and make /opt/var/log/lighttpd owned by www?
Feb 10 17:28:52 <jmbrowning> BTW, thanks in advance :)
Feb 10 17:29:04 <Tobbe> jmbrowning: I think that's what I did
Feb 10 17:29:08 <Tobbe> let me check
Feb 10 17:31:21 <jmbrowning> Tobbe: thanks! I need to know what perms to set on that dir and also on the /opt/share/www dir also.
Feb 10 17:32:04 <Tobbe> yeah, I did what you said, /opt/var/log/lighttpd is owned by www
Feb 10 17:32:21 * jmbrowning contemplates how much fun it is to have a linux machine to play with again.
Feb 10 17:32:36 <Tobbe> and in that folder I have two files, both owned by www
Feb 10 17:32:45 <Tobbe> acces.log and error.log
Feb 10 17:32:56 <Tobbe> access.log
Feb 10 17:34:16 <Tobbe> lighttpd/ is 755, and the log files are 600
Feb 10 17:34:32 <jmbrowning> k
Feb 10 17:35:25 <jason0_> Anyone here know how to setup a debianslug to use a flashdisk for /var/log?
Feb 10 17:41:12 <mwester> jason0_: the way you would on any other linux system with debianslug -- it's just a standard Linux system.
Feb 10 17:47:23 <bern> I downloaded kernel code  for scsciidle on pc, now I start telnet, how can I untar the file into /usr/src? 
Feb 10 17:47:33 <bern> on nslu2
Feb 10 17:49:11 <bern> Hallo
Feb 10 17:50:11 <jason0_> mwester: do you think this would be better than using a ramfs? Other people have expressed concern over the limited read/write limitations of usb disks.
Feb 10 17:52:50 <Tobbe> jason0_: Why don't you want to use ramfs?
Feb 10 17:53:44 <jason0_> Tobbe: I just thought that with the limited memory on the nslu2 that it wouldn't be a good idea. But perhaps I'm being a little too careful.
Feb 10 17:56:32 <Tobbe> jason0_: Depends on what you use your slug for, but for "normal" usage you have enough ram to keep your logs on it too
Feb 10 18:12:56 <bern> Halloooooooooooooooooo
Feb 10 18:13:15 <bern>  I downloaded kernel code  for scsciidle on pc, now I start telnet, how can I untar the file into /usr/src? 
Feb 10 21:23:07 <bern>  I downloaded kernel code  for scsciidle on pc, now I start telnet, how can I untar the file into /usr/src? 
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Feb 10 21:23:15 <bern>  I downloaded kernel code  for scsciidle on pc, now I start telnet, how can I untar the file into /usr/src? 
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Feb 10 21:23:19 <bern>  I downloaded kernel code  for scsciidle on pc, now I start telnet, how can I untar the file into /usr/src? 
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Feb 10 21:36:10 <Weltto> hmm
Feb 10 21:37:49 <caplink811-log> bern, as you ask for a solution for your tar problem (~3h).... man tar (as a search word on google too) would be much faster... but it's something like tar -xvzf filename.tar
Feb 10 23:01:54 <bern> thanks for the answer Caplink but what i need to know, just download the tar file on pc but need to know how to decompress to /usr/src with telnet
Feb 10 23:03:09 <caplink811-log> as i said...
Feb 10 23:05:10 <bern> the tar command is only working on linux enviromnent, how can i point to the file that located to my pc
Feb 10 23:06:32 <caplink811-log> assuming, that it is a wn box, use winzip. or something equal
Feb 10 23:07:17 <bern> i will try it thanks, 
Feb 10 23:07:58 <caplink811-log> in my tz it is 45 mins past midnight, so i'm heading to bed now..
Feb 10 23:08:27 <caplink811-log> gn8@all
Feb 10 23:08:37 <kapookee> gn8
Feb 10 23:09:28 <bern> gn
Feb 10 23:10:19 <kapookee> bern:  you want to decompress a file on a win box to /usr/src?
Feb 10 23:17:42 <LockleyA> Hi, I've been swapping emails with Mike Wester about my unslung NSLU2 which will not boot from its HDD for some reason.  At his suggestion I'm now in my first-ever IRC session...
Feb 10 23:18:51 <warlord0> 10(LockleyA10): i'm no expert bu i had to del .unslung, redboot my slug and reflash. then unsling to fix mine that stopped booting from hd.
Feb 10 23:21:07 <LockleyA> It hasn't stopped booting from HD, it is a fresh installation on a newly formatted Seagate 200Gb drive, & has yet to boot from HD for the first time.  Comes up "running from internal flash" every time.
Feb 10 23:24:46 <LockleyA> Does anyone know how to divert the output of the boot process into a file instead of the (non-existent) serial console?
Feb 10 23:29:30 <kapookee> LockleyA:  How many times have you tried?
Feb 10 23:30:51 <LockleyA> Several boot attempts.  I've re-formatted the disk and repeated the unsling process, using both ports on the slug.  It's on disk 2 at present.
Feb 10 23:31:18 <mwester> Do you have a disk or anything plugged into the other port?
Feb 10 23:32:11 <LockleyA> mwester:  No, the other port is empty.  I did try unslinging to a 512Mb ram stick and that worked OK, but I want to use a disk in the long term.
Feb 10 23:33:54 <bern> Kapookee, are you still there?
Feb 10 23:34:58 <bern> I will decompress some tar file on the nslu2, but dont know how! tar file is on pc, but the tar command on linux
Feb 10 23:37:14 <bern> Another question, i will install debian on nslu2, but i have a second usb disk NTFS, can i access it after installation of Debian?
Feb 10 23:38:38 <mwester> LockleyA: no easy way to redirect all the output; it requires restarting the linuxrc script with the output redirected.  The script needs to be instrumented by sprinkling it with "echo" statements.
Feb 10 23:39:33 <mwester> echo "sleeping while waiting for disk..." >> /var/bootlog 2>&1
Feb 10 23:39:53 <mwester> would be an example.  The log would appear in /var/bootlog.
Feb 10 23:47:55 <LockleyA> mwester: I emailed you recently having inserting "ls -l /proc/hdd* >/LOG " as you suggested.  The slug still boots to internal flash, and writes to the file /LOG:
Feb 10 23:47:59 <LockleyA> -r--r--r--  1  root  root   0 Jan 1 01:00  /proc/hdd_sda
Feb 10 23:48:40 * kapookee gets confused sometimes.
Feb 10 23:51:22 <LockleyA> I could echo the "sleeping" message as you suggest.  How do we find out what happens next?
Feb 11 00:17:21 <LockleyA> mwester:  I have routed the echo statements up to the two in the block starting "for prefroot..." The logfile gets the "sleeping" message, then "20" on the first pass through the while loop, then nothing.  Do you think something is going wrong in the "prefroot" block?
Feb 11 00:20:31 <mwester> If it goes to 20, it means that the system did not detect the disk.
Feb 11 00:20:49 <mwester> er, strike that - let me check; it may count down from 20.
Feb 11 00:20:59 <mwester> Yep, counts down from 20.
Feb 11 00:21:37 <mwester> So, yes, the problem is occuring after that.
Feb 11 00:22:20 <mwester> You need to add an "echo" statemetn after each of the "if" statements, so that you can see which if is the problem.
Feb 11 00:36:14 <LockleyA> mwester:  I've commented the if statements.  The first is true, the second (about /bin/mnt) is not.
Feb 11 00:37:26 <mwester> Ok, so then the one involving "/bin/mount -rt ext3..." is executed, and does that line return true or false?
Feb 11 00:38:28 <LockleyA> So it never gets to the third if statement.
Feb 11 00:39:25 <mwester> Ok, then type the "mount" command (sans "if" and the trailing "; then" and see what it reports...
Feb 11 00:44:09 <LockleyA> mwester:  It reports "mount: Mounting /dev on /mnt failed:  Block device required".  I guess it no longer has a value for $prefroot.  What value should I type?
Feb 11 00:44:31 <mwester> What port is the disk in?
Feb 11 00:44:55 <LockleyA> It's in the disk 2 port.
Feb 11 00:45:11 <mwester> That should be sda - so it would be /dev/sda1
Feb 11 00:46:30 <LockleyA> Now it says "mount: Mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt failed: Device or resource busy"
Feb 11 00:47:18 <mwester> what is the output from "cat /proc/mounts"
Feb 11 00:48:00 <LockleyA> Output as follows:
Feb 11 00:48:12 <LockleyA> rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
Feb 11 00:49:13 <LockleyA>  /dev/root / jffs2 rw 0 0
Feb 11 00:49:30 <LockleyA>  /proc /proc proc rw 0 0
Feb 11 00:49:53 <LockleyA>  usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0
Feb 11 00:50:14 <LockleyA>  /dev/sda1 /share/flash/data ext3 rw 0 0
Feb 11 00:50:40 <LockleyA>  /dev/sda2 /share/flash/conf ext3 rw,sync 0 0
Feb 11 00:50:53 <LockleyA> that's all
Feb 11 00:51:42 <mwester> Ok.  looks fine.  No reason for it not to be working...
Feb 11 00:53:13 <mwester> type "ls -la /" -- does /.sda1root exist?
Feb 11 00:54:26 <LockleyA> Yes, it's there
Feb 11 00:55:01 <mwester> "ls -la /share/flash/data" -- does the matching .sda1root exist there also?
Feb 11 00:55:56 <LockleyA> Yes, that's there too.  The one in / is dated Feb 9.  The one in /share/flash/data is dated Feb 5.
Feb 11 00:56:14 <mwester> and what's the output from "ls -la /share/flash/data/bin/init"?
Feb 11 00:57:34 <LockleyA> Reports "-rwxr-xr-x  1  root  root  15796 Jan 1 1970 /share/flash/data/bin/init"
Feb 11 01:00:43 <mwester> Ok.  all ok.
Feb 11 01:00:50 <LockleyA> What does "device or resource busy" mean?  The HDD is sitting there silent at present.
Feb 11 01:01:32 <mwester> Just that it was already mounted, in this case by the Linksys firmware.
Feb 11 01:02:10 <LockleyA> So if it was mounted, why does the if statement not return true?
Feb 11 01:02:55 <mwester> Because it was mounted long after the boot, when the linksys processes were started.
Feb 11 01:03:15 <LockleyA> Or does it fail because it was already mounted before the script ran?
Feb 11 01:03:39 <mwester> What we need is the output from that mount command.  Try editing the linuxrc script to redirect that output to a file.
Feb 11 01:03:48 <mwester> something like:
Feb 11 01:04:32 <mwester> if /bin/mount -rt ext3 /dev/$prefroot /mnt >/MOUNT.LOG 2>&1 ; then
Feb 11 01:05:07 <mwester> But before you do that, can you type "dmesg", capture the output, and paste it into pastebin?
Feb 11 01:05:34 <LockleyA> how do I capture the output?
Feb 11 01:05:54 <mwester> cut and paste from your terminal emulator
Feb 11 01:06:55 <LockleyA> Can I do that with Windows Telnet?
Feb 11 01:09:50 <mwester> yep, in the standard way you'd capture output from a Windows cmd window.  Right click on the window border, to edit, then mark and cut the text -- then paste it into the pastebin.com window.  That way you don't flood the channel with hundreds of lines of text.
Feb 11 01:11:04 <mwester> I have to run for a short bit; back in a while.  If you can post the URL to the pastebin, I'll take a look and see if there are any other hints.  In the meantime, try capturing the output from that mount command when you get a chance to reboot that slug.
Feb 11 01:11:43 <LockleyA> how about I email you with the dmesg data?
Feb 11 01:12:13 <mwester> Er - quick note: change the ">/MOUNT.LOG" to ">>/MOUNT.LOG" or we'll probably lose the info.
Feb 11 01:12:57 <mwester> You can try to email it; the spam filter isn't local and is rather aggressive.  I'd prefer pastebin if you can, but if it makes it through email, that's great.
Feb 11 01:35:03 <LockleyA> mwester: I modified the mount command to output to /MOUNT.LOG and guess what, it booted to the HDD for the first time ever!  I'm turning in now as it's the wee small hours in the UK but I'm happy...
Feb 11 02:35:18 * mwester reviews the log, see's LockleyA's note, and shakes his head in a rather perplexed manner...
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