**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 19 03:00:00 2007 Feb 19 14:43:27 Hi Feb 19 14:44:07 What is the nicer OS for the NSLU2 if I want to attach it a USB sound card ? Feb 19 14:52:48 Kzar_fr: how Linux literate are you? Feb 19 14:53:25 joshin: I'm runing Debian Sarge then Ubuntu for 5 years. I've an OpenWRT'54G too. Feb 19 14:54:37 Kzar_fr: then I'd probably suggest DebianSlug that you build yourself from the master makefile. Feb 19 14:54:54 slugosle and then bootstrap debian on top of it Feb 19 14:55:05 (I run Gentoo bootstrapped on top of slugosbe) Feb 19 14:55:20 joshin: I guess there are plenty of nice help files around :-) Feb 19 14:56:04 I'm sure there are. Hang out in #nslu2-linux (dev channel) and watch the help files flow. :) Feb 19 14:56:57 Thank's Feb 19 15:08:54 * mwester is partial to SlugOS/BE, but that's only because he's prejudiced against wrong-endianness ;) :D Feb 19 15:11:16 mwester: Yeah but he's running and used to debian based distributions. So it follows that he'd want to do the same thing on his slug. Feb 19 15:11:55 But can't I start directly with Debian on it ? Feb 19 15:12:48 Kzar_fr: Not unless you can fit Debian on the 6MB of flash. Feb 19 15:13:01 ;) Feb 19 15:13:07 joshin: :) I know - and debian has, by far, the bigger set of packages for installation on the NSLU2. It really is the better choice for an audio device. Feb 19 15:13:44 * joshin thinks that Gentoo might be competetive against Debian on package set. :) Feb 19 15:13:53 ARM Debian packages will be top speed on the Slug ? Feb 19 15:14:03 The official debian release for the NSLU2 is not fully-baked just yet -- there is an early release, but apparently the key expired on those debian releases, so it no longer works (?) Feb 19 15:14:11 * Kzar_fr is waiting for a Gentoo quote here Feb 19 15:14:22 Kzar_fr: There is no such thing as "top speed" for the slug. There are multiple reasons it is called a "slug" Feb 19 15:14:44 Kzar_fr: the endianness is only known to affect network speed; all else is pretty much the same. Feb 19 15:14:52 joshin: I mean compilation (optimisation) parameters. Feb 19 15:15:32 mwester: Ok; how much is that difference ? Feb 19 15:15:35 Pfft, I figure that optimizations may gain me 5% or so. But being able to control what I install is more important to me. Feb 19 15:15:59 For the old Intel driver, I benchmarked it as 20% slower on LE vs BE. Feb 19 15:16:04 Unclear; benchmarks claim from zero (which is hard to believe) to 20%. Feb 19 15:16:13 joshin: so Debian is definely worth a try on Slug. Feb 19 15:16:14 I have not tested the new OSS driver. Feb 19 15:16:29 Kzar_fr: It will only cost you time. Feb 19 15:16:36 The new OSS driver is very nice, and is faster than the original. Feb 19 15:16:39 If you want to play with DebianSlug, go for it! Feb 19 15:17:06 But I'd highly recommend you using the new 4.3(?) beta. Feb 19 15:17:52 Since the Debian installer won't run right now (stay tuned on the ML, or check in on the Debian Arm channel, to find out when that will be fixed), slugos/LE with a Debian rootfs is the closest you can get to a real debian environment today... Feb 19 15:17:53 BTW, my Gentoo CFLAGS aren't that exciting. "-Os -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale" Feb 19 15:18:45 SlugOS CFLAGS are similar: -O2 instead, IIRC. The biggest performance killer for audio on the SLUG is that it has no FPU. So all apps must be softfloat. Feb 19 15:19:24 or integer, if possible. Feb 19 15:19:36 On my ancient strongarm based Zaurus, I can stream audio without too much trouble. Feb 19 15:19:53 My CHOST is "armeb-softfloat-linux-gnu" Feb 19 15:20:12 The slug is BE and the Zaurus is LE. Feb 19 15:20:14 The slug streams audio very nicely, it's just that some of the codecs don't work very well. Feb 19 15:28:27 thank's to all for valuable tips. Feb 19 17:25:14 Hello guys, when i try to install qemu-libc-i386 it says that I need qemu-user, but qemu-user isn't available through the feeds? what to do? Feb 19 17:37:05 Hello guys, when i try to install qemu-libc-i386 it says that I need qemu-user, but qemu-user isn't available through the feeds? what to do? Feb 19 17:48:16 Hello guys, when i try to install qemu-libc-i386 it says that I need qemu-user, but qemu-user isn't available through the feeds? what to do? Feb 19 18:30:33 Hello guys, when i try to install qemu-libc-i386 it says that I need qemu-user, but qemu-user isn't available through the feeds? what to do? Feb 19 18:32:54 otom: and it's not the qmenu package itself? Feb 19 18:34:46 well, i have qemu installed, but when i try to install qemu-libc-i386 it says: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for qemu-libc-i386: Feb 19 18:34:46 qemu-user Feb 19 18:36:43 true, portage has that Feb 19 18:39:07 so what do you suggest? Feb 19 18:43:05 compile it yourself? Feb 19 18:58:54 ok, i'll have to find the source for qemu-user then Feb 20 02:16:09 anyone have any issues copying large amounts of files, average sizes 2-8megs, and slug becomes unresponsive Feb 20 02:16:44 which firmware? Feb 20 02:16:51 unslung6.8 Feb 20 02:16:59 using unslung5.5b Feb 20 02:17:01 no probs Feb 20 02:17:12 2-8megs? not even gis? Feb 20 02:17:13 gigs Feb 20 02:17:24 ah, large amount of files Feb 20 02:17:30 bit sleepy here ;) my apologies Feb 20 02:17:37 well many files over 2000, all files about 2-8 megs, so over maybe 100 gigs Feb 20 02:17:54 photo/music collection Feb 20 02:18:17 which protocol? Feb 20 02:18:23 always seems to lockup.. to ext primary drive, samba Feb 20 02:18:32 hm, any chance using ftp? Feb 20 02:18:41 ya that is my next option Feb 20 02:18:47 I'd suggest that Feb 20 02:18:50 tried rsync and have about the same issues Feb 20 02:18:59 I'm not using much of samba myself...just to access file directly Feb 20 02:19:14 transfers always ftp Feb 20 02:19:51 ya, think that is my next option, thanks for the info.. maybe i'm trying to do to much with this little thing Feb 20 02:19:53 I've heard about that issue though, never ran into Feb 20 02:20:17 ok well that's good Feb 20 02:20:26 r63 is the linksys firmware Feb 20 02:20:42 maybe i'll try to reflash it and try 5.5 Feb 20 02:20:53 R29 Feb 20 02:20:59 ya exactly Feb 20 02:21:06 don't need the ntfs anyhow Feb 20 02:21:06 well, haven't had any probs with this one Feb 20 02:21:10 so no need to change :D Feb 20 02:21:21 using ext3 and fat32 on a hub, port one Feb 20 02:21:26 both my slugs are still in unslung5 time Feb 20 02:21:35 well, not using hub so far Feb 20 02:21:53 what ftp package are you using? Feb 20 02:22:00 on the slug Feb 20 02:22:30 lol :D I googled unslung5.5b to see which firmware it had.. and found some logs where I'm babling stuff on the channel :D Feb 20 02:22:42 ncftpd Feb 20 02:22:45 sorry Feb 20 02:23:00 vsftpd Feb 20 02:23:01 np.. slug just crashed again Feb 20 02:23:34 ethernet light is the only one on, everything else off Feb 20 02:24:19 seen dmesg? anything there Feb 20 02:24:26 nope nothing Feb 20 02:24:28 is it non responsive? Feb 20 02:24:39 ya can't ping/telnet/ssh nothing Feb 20 02:24:49 even have a shell open and it just dies also Feb 20 02:25:11 that has happened couple of times.. but only with my another slug..running also unslung5.5b though Feb 20 02:25:15 think i'll give ftp a try, get the majority of files over to it and deal with things then Feb 20 02:25:29 my first slug has been perfect from the day I bought it Feb 20 02:25:31 just a pain when moving all this data Feb 20 02:25:44 leave the CPU alone? Feb 20 02:25:47 still 133 Feb 20 02:26:03 I haven't done that until very recently - couple of days ago Feb 20 02:26:10 so not the cause Feb 20 02:26:41 ohh so you did clip the resistor then, notice anything? Feb 20 02:26:52 from my secondary slug, yes Feb 20 02:26:54 well, not yet anyway Feb 20 02:26:59 not much gain either :D Feb 20 02:27:19 ya i'd think very little effects would happen Feb 20 02:27:57 wished that phpmyadmin would become less sluggish Feb 20 02:28:07 not really :D Feb 20 02:28:49 ya that is a memory hog usually, maybe try larger swap, but not sure much will help that much, on a slug that is Feb 20 02:29:20 and none of the versions available didn't even work correctly.. Feb 20 02:29:36 from feed or the tar.gz Feb 20 02:29:38 ya i gave up on CUPS Feb 20 02:29:53 had to make modifications to it - now it seems to be working ok Feb 20 02:29:54 wasn't to bad on my linux computer, not so easy on the slug.. Feb 20 02:30:17 although still firefox is the only browser able to co-operate :D ie7 or opera.. no chance Feb 20 02:30:22 well more then i'm willing to try that's great you got it working Feb 20 02:32:15 i think i'll give scp a try before ftp Feb 20 02:32:45 think i'll try to slow xfer speeds down too Feb 20 02:34:25 scp is hard on resources Feb 20 02:34:29 not very fast transfers Feb 20 02:34:43 scp is good for internet traffic though Feb 20 02:34:55 ya true but i'm to lazy at the moment to configure ncftp Feb 20 02:35:02 but atlest on my slug.. scp is way to slow on local network Feb 20 02:35:15 not much to configure Feb 20 02:35:30 if you don't give a s* about security issues :D that is Feb 20 02:35:35 humm.. i've never setup an ftp on linux, always used scp Feb 20 02:35:51 well, scp works ok with more powerful CPU naturally Feb 20 02:35:54 ya one reason i haven't setup an ftp.. heh Feb 20 02:36:04 ya i'm sure this isn't the best for the slug Feb 20 02:36:15 but if you have no port open to internet and ftp on local network..where's the issue? Feb 20 02:36:25 none Feb 20 02:36:27 so Feb 20 02:36:41 are you using xinetd+ Feb 20 02:36:49 +=? Feb 20 02:36:50 ya i guess ipkg install ncftp or whatever isn't hard heh Feb 20 02:37:21 to be honest i don't know what xidentd i'm using Feb 20 02:38:26 well, forget it then :D making things just more complex Feb 20 02:38:43 xinetd, not vsftpd :D of course Feb 20 02:38:46 humm ic on the web interface there is a little check next to enable ftp Feb 20 02:38:59 so maybe it is already setup.. dah me if it is.. Feb 20 02:39:07 could be Feb 20 02:39:16 not familiar with that Feb 20 02:40:03 ya there is a check box on linksys webpage for it under admin>system page Feb 20 02:41:14 nice admin login works Feb 20 02:41:20 not my user login Feb 20 02:41:24 guess i'll give this a try Feb 20 02:42:50 ya bftpd is installed by default Feb 20 02:43:59 cant believe i missed the default setup Feb 20 02:48:24 how's it working? Feb 20 02:48:30 so far so good Feb 20 02:48:38 ftp that is Feb 20 02:49:11 speeds seem maybe a bit faster, though that maybe because i can actually see the speeds and it's not a bar Feb 20 02:52:01 also running top seems to be a bit nicer on the system then samba, makes sense Feb 20 02:53:34 ok well just took a crap.. i must have something messed up, because if things are this bad, everyone else would be posting problems Feb 20 02:57:48 :-\ Feb 20 02:58:06 ya i'll try to limit xfer speeds Feb 20 02:59:02 338 11.2 3.5 bftpd Feb 20 02:59:22 15% cpu looks better then the 94-98% i was seeing at full speeds **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 20 02:59:57 2007