**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 03 02:59:59 2007 Mar 03 07:08:42 hi Mar 03 07:11:39 anyone could help me to configure a nslu with xinetd? I have flashed it yesterday with unslung 6.8 and unsling to port 2 on flash with success, but now I'm stuck Mar 03 07:32:34 anyone could help me to configure a nslu with xinetd? I have flashed it yesterday with unslung 6.8 and unsling to port 2 on flash with success, but now I'm stuck Mar 03 08:31:04 <[FireFly]> Sinclair73de: what should I do to see if I have those dma errors on my 128MByte NSLU? Mar 03 10:38:35 hi Mar 03 10:39:15 anyone could help me to configure a nslu with xinetd? I have flashed it yesterday with unslung 6.8 and unsling to port 2 on flash with success, but now I'm stuck Mar 03 10:39:43 I don't know how to edit a conf file via telnet... Mar 03 10:41:45 You need a text editor or something on it Mar 03 10:41:57 ipkg update, ipkg upgrade, ipkg install nano Mar 03 10:42:03 export TERM='linux' Mar 03 10:42:24 /opt/bin/nano -w pathtofile Mar 03 10:43:27 the ipkg commands are to be run on seperate lines Mar 03 10:43:45 aha, so there is no editor inside in the begining... but maybe there is another way: to dload the file, edit it, and upload back... is possible ? Mar 03 10:44:22 No editor there as default Mar 03 10:44:30 Not on unslung anyway Mar 03 10:44:57 Are you using a linux or a windows machine? Mar 03 10:45:47 windows, I don't know much about linux, I've played with fedora and mandrake, but only in graphical interface so... Mar 03 10:46:24 You can visit the 'admin' share of the slug Mar 03 10:46:39 and edit files, but i dont think that works too well - ie the changes aint always saved Mar 03 10:47:10 If your using a decent telnet client, ie putty Mar 03 10:47:17 doing it in shell isnt too difficult Mar 03 10:47:37 its a case of running the -w Mar 03 10:47:48 making your edits, pressing ctrl+o then hitting enter Mar 03 10:47:52 then ctrl+x Mar 03 10:49:00 ok, so first I'll go to use putty (instead of hyperterminal) Mar 03 10:49:11 yeah, definately Mar 03 10:49:23 hyperterminal just makes life much more difficult Mar 03 10:49:35 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html Mar 03 10:50:12 10x for the link, and help, I'll try it now... Mar 03 10:54:47 its just having a basic idea of what you are doing Mar 03 10:54:54 well, I need a method to edit the conf file without internet conection, ie without ipkg install, because I've installed xinetd and it only allows 192.168.1.0/24 Mar 03 10:55:20 so at first I need to modify xinetd.conf Mar 03 10:55:34 to gain internet access back :) Mar 03 10:56:04 I'm using putty now :) Mar 03 10:56:04 Ahh Mar 03 10:56:08 Errm Mar 03 10:56:18 \\slugname\admin Mar 03 10:56:27 sorry Mar 03 10:56:38 \\slugname\admin then the number of the drive you unslung 2 Mar 03 10:56:41 *to Mar 03 10:57:40 I think you can add packages manually otherwise.... Mar 03 10:57:45 but what user/pass is needed to access 'admin' share? it seems that is not user:admin pass:admin... as in the web interface Mar 03 10:58:43 mine is... Mar 03 10:58:44 :/ Mar 03 10:58:54 hmmm Mar 03 11:00:55 ok I'm in ! don't know why it didn't work at first Mar 03 11:01:11 so I'll edit in the share... Mar 03 11:02:05 yeah Mar 03 11:02:09 try editing it in the share Mar 03 11:02:19 and then on telnet, try cat /pathtofile Mar 03 11:02:23 to check the file and see if its changed Mar 03 11:03:35 sh*t, is writeprotected, how to deal with this in linux/telnet ? Mar 03 11:04:26 hmm Mar 03 11:04:39 well Mar 03 11:04:47 chmod +w filepath Mar 03 11:04:49 could work Mar 03 11:05:37 that gives write permission on the file Mar 03 11:05:42 then, when your done, change it back Mar 03 11:06:05 sorry, I really don't know the linux commands, I'm sure it's obvious for those who wrote the tutorials for unslung, but not for beginners in linux :( Mar 03 11:06:22 Im a windows guy through and through Mar 03 11:06:27 so chmod +w...10x Mar 03 11:06:39 My 2 NSLU2's (and my router) are my only linux devices Mar 03 11:06:45 :) Mar 03 11:07:23 chmod is used to change rights on the file, +w is adding the write permssion Mar 03 11:08:02 I think, to remove the +w you use -w when your done... Mar 03 11:11:04 done Mar 03 11:11:12 10x a lot Mar 03 11:11:44 you got the file changed? Mar 03 11:11:47 I've done all this because nslu2 does not know ftp passv mode Mar 03 11:11:50 yes Mar 03 11:11:54 lol Mar 03 11:12:05 well, run ipkg update, ipkg upgrade, ipkg update Mar 03 11:12:10 and then ipkg install nano Mar 03 11:12:14 then you've got a text editor on it Mar 03 11:12:26 yep I'll do it Mar 03 11:12:45 aslong as your default gateway, and DNS servers are set Mar 03 11:12:47 should work fine Mar 03 11:13:09 all this only to get a ftp behind the firewall/nat machine... Mar 03 11:13:15 lol Mar 03 11:14:03 10x a lot, I'll make the next steps now Mar 03 11:14:15 Righto, im going out to get some newspapers Mar 03 11:14:17 back in a bit Mar 03 11:14:22 10x Mar 03 11:34:25 Guys, what option to choose: proftpd or vsftpd ? I need the simplest ftp server but with passv mode capability, and the easiest configuration... Mar 03 11:34:59 I'll use it behind a firewall/nat machine Mar 03 12:16:27 nick61: Any luck? Mar 03 13:10:47 Guys, what option to choose: proftpd or vsftpd ? I need the simplest ftp server but with passv mode capability, and the easiest configuration... Mar 03 15:01:58 hi Mar 03 15:02:39 may I have some help with vsftpd installation please ? Mar 03 15:23:43 ? Mar 03 15:24:06 Whats the problem? Mar 03 15:34:27 hey, is there an optware package i can install that will give me the 'locate' command?? Mar 03 15:34:34 (and updatedb obviously) Mar 03 15:34:45 for i'm on unslung 6.8 Mar 03 15:39:50 I thought that there was a broken version in 5.x. Mar 03 15:40:20 * mwester seems to recall that locate and updatedb are already installed in /opt/bin on Unslung 6.8 Mar 03 15:46:13 iwo: I am working on it. Mar 03 15:46:27 thanks :) Mar 03 15:47:10 is there any other way to find files? I normally use: find / | grep xxx Mar 03 15:47:19 but this is pretty inefficient :) Mar 03 15:47:58 find / -name xxx Mar 03 15:48:17 In that case you don't need the grep. Mar 03 15:48:29 But still it needs to search the complete disk. Mar 03 15:49:08 thanks Mar 03 15:49:18 A other way is to use cron to run "find / -type f >/tmp/filelist" and then use grep xxx /tmp/filelist Mar 03 15:49:50 But i hope to get mlocate working within a hour. Mar 03 15:50:10 * mwester boots up a virgin Unslung 6.8 slug Mar 03 15:50:29 * mwester finds that he was mistaken; locate and updatedb are *NOT* in /opt/bin, they are in /usr/bin Mar 03 15:52:13 They're in the findutils package, which is installed into the base firmware on Unslung 6.8 (removed in future versions, 'cause there's really no need to use precious flash space for that) Mar 03 15:52:44 I have them in "/initrd/usr/bin/" but not in "/usr/bin". Mar 03 15:53:12 But that version doesn't work. Mar 03 15:53:31 It didn't work in unslung 5.x ans still it doesn't seem to work. Mar 03 15:53:34 same here (i have them in "/initrd/usr/bin/" but not in "/usr/bin") Mar 03 15:53:54 "/initrd" is the internal flash. Mar 03 15:54:06 But don't bother about it. Mar 03 15:54:19 Ah, you are unslung then. They did not get copied to the external disk during the unsling process? Strange. Mar 03 15:54:22 That version doesn't work. Mar 03 15:54:41 # /initrd/usr/bin/updatedb Mar 03 15:54:41 /initrd/usr/bin/updatedb: /usr/bin/find: No such file or directory Mar 03 15:54:41 sort: invalid option -- f Mar 03 15:54:41 BusyBox v1.00 (2006.04.11-01:22+0000) multi-call binary Mar 03 15:54:41 Usage: sort [-n] [FILE]... Mar 03 15:54:41 Sorts lines of text in the specified files Mar 03 15:54:43 Options: Mar 03 15:54:45 -n sort numerics Mar 03 15:54:47 /initrd/usr/bin/updatedb: /usr/libexec/frcode: No such file or directory Mar 03 15:54:49 updatedb: new database would be empty Mar 03 15:55:35 Hmm... good thing I removed it in the newer versions. I wonder if optware is building a version of findutils that works. Mar 03 16:02:16 optware findutils only installs find and xargs! Mar 03 16:04:51 I have a package "mlocate-0.15-ipk" Mar 03 16:06:04 cool Mar 03 16:06:12 so mlocate is better than slocate? Mar 03 16:06:51 What's better. Mar 03 16:07:42 i dunno, just wondering Mar 03 16:10:24 Guys, I can mount my unslung files now over nfs, works like a charm. Now, I want to make a lot of playlists on that mount which I haop later will show up in my mt-daapd server. Which linux program do you recommend to easily accomplish such a thing? rhythmbox maybe? Mar 03 16:11:00 The updates are faster because he merges the database. Mar 03 16:11:47 I have the mlocate file here. Mar 03 16:12:16 But i still need to make a postinst so that the group mlocate is created. Mar 03 16:12:49 Also i need to create a crontab entry so it could take some time to get a official package. Mar 03 16:13:39 eno: Could you check if it works for you as well. Mar 03 16:14:22 sure Mar 03 16:50:38 UncleRemus: why not make playlists using the firefly smartplaylist web interface? Mar 03 16:51:52 sorry marceln, I've missed the moment :) so, I need some help with unslung 6.8, to start vsftpd or proftpd. I need a ftp server with passv capabilities Mar 03 16:52:54 I don't understand what to do after ipkg install vsftpd/proftpd to make it answer on port 21 Mar 03 16:54:50 I'm almost "virgin" in linux world, and the docs are ok up to this moment, but from now on, the docs assumes a lot of things as obvious... Mar 03 16:55:03 ./etc/init.d/vsftpd start ? Mar 03 16:55:24 *inet.d Mar 03 16:55:48 ok, just a moment, I've installed xinet Mar 03 16:56:00 because it is written in doc Mar 03 16:56:05 to do so Mar 03 16:56:34 and after that, I've installed vsftpd Mar 03 16:56:39 is vsftpd running? Mar 03 16:57:01 Well, this IS a question, how to tel ? Mar 03 16:57:08 ps aux | grep ftp Mar 03 16:57:29 literally like that in telnet ? Mar 03 16:57:34 yeah Mar 03 16:57:44 one moment please Mar 03 16:58:30 483 ttyp0 root 2664 D grep ftp Mar 03 16:58:35 not running then Mar 03 17:00:39 it is easier to achieve a ftp with passv capabilities with proftpd instead vsftpd ? I've made today all that steps to put unslung 6.8 on my nslu2, just to achieve a ftp that is working behind a firewall/nat Mar 03 17:01:05 no idea tbh - i dont use unslung or ftp, Mar 03 17:01:31 i use debianslug and ssh/sftp Mar 03 17:05:16 it's well explained in the wiki how to install unslung, how to use an external flash to unsling, but when it comes to packages, it seems that the explanations consider the user, a linux user with basic knowledge about basic linux commands, and I'm not such a user...:( Mar 03 17:05:44 what do you want to do now? Mar 03 17:06:39 I've just installed the proftpd now (I've removed vsftpd) but it does not respond also, so it seems it must be started somehow Mar 03 17:07:31 ps aux | grep ftp showed you that it wasnt running Mar 03 17:07:36 so it needs startng Mar 03 17:07:39 starting Mar 03 17:07:53 yes but how ? Mar 03 17:07:56 usually this is done by running a script, rather than just running the binary Mar 03 17:08:14 in debianslug these scripts live in /etc/inet.d/ Mar 03 17:08:20 not sure in unslung Mar 03 17:08:26 yes, and I've read is something connected with xinetd Mar 03 17:08:40 but.. I'm stuck here Mar 03 17:08:44 what i usually do if im looking for stuff is use locate Mar 03 17:08:56 so locate proftpd Mar 03 17:09:03 so type 'locate proftpd' Mar 03 17:09:18 if youve never done this before you'll need to type 'updatedb' first Mar 03 17:09:20 locate: no such file Mar 03 17:09:30 lol Mar 03 17:09:32 either not installed or not in path Mar 03 17:09:45 yep of course Mar 03 17:09:45 ls /etc/ Mar 03 17:10:26 no, is not there.. a lot of other files, but not locate Mar 03 17:10:39 no sorry Mar 03 17:10:49 i meant is there a /etc/inet.d Mar 03 17:10:51 or xinet Mar 03 17:11:04 yest it is Mar 03 17:11:08 xinetd.d Mar 03 17:11:14 cd /etc/xinetd/d Mar 03 17:11:16 cd /etc/xinetd.d Mar 03 17:11:27 is there a proftpd in there? Mar 03 17:11:31 yes it is Mar 03 17:12:01 hold on Mar 03 17:12:05 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Proftpd?from=Unslung.Proftpd Mar 03 17:12:11 it explains it in there Mar 03 17:13:26 oh, I've read it already... but the trouble is there is no step-by-step start... Mar 03 17:13:47 As standalone server Mar 03 17:13:47 Set up startup script: cp /opt/doc/proftpd/S58proftpd /opt/etc/init.d Mar 03 17:13:47 Run: . /opt/etc/init.d/S58proftpd Mar 03 17:15:28 hmmm... I'll try it, but I've made the first choice, I mean I've installed xinetd as written: (Note2: Probably obvious [but I missed it] but xinetd needs to be installed ... Mar 03 17:16:23 with xinet it should be easy Mar 03 17:16:29 there will be a config file Mar 03 17:17:27 ok, I've tried it, but "Can't open /opt/etc/init.d/s58proftpd" Mar 03 17:18:08 in init.d I have only one file: S10xinetd Mar 03 17:18:12 yeah that did seem a bit odd to me Mar 03 17:18:51 in /etc/xinet.d/ dir you should create a conf file for ftp service Mar 03 17:19:04 which points to the proftpd binary Mar 03 17:19:18 i have to go afk, but im not much help anyway! Mar 03 17:19:54 ok, found it ! /opt/sbin/proftpd Mar 03 17:20:28 it is written in the proftpd file found in xinetd.d folder Mar 03 17:23:41 ughhh, now errors: /opt/sbin/proftpd: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") Mar 03 18:15:57 barnseenio: That sounds like a good idea, I didn't know of it. How can I access it? Mar 03 18:48:27 UncleRemus: have you seen the web interface at all? Mar 03 18:49:34 Yes I am there right now Mar 03 18:49:44 ah cool Mar 03 18:49:52 it has a slightly odd syntax Mar 03 18:50:00 but i used it to do all mine Mar 03 18:51:28 I have tried the wizard now, but it seems to generate only smart playlists. I want to have like more degrees of freedom, am I missing something? Mar 03 18:52:06 OK, I reread your original comment, I understand Mar 03 18:52:11 what do you mean by freedom? Mar 03 18:52:17 individual tracks? Mar 03 18:52:22 yes Mar 03 18:52:30 ah yeah, not really geared up for that Mar 03 18:52:56 although can be achieved Mar 03 18:53:08 But I think I can do it like with rhythmbox and then only make a perl-oneliner to adjust the paths, should work Mar 03 18:53:11 as there is criteria such as 'id' which is a unique id for the track Mar 03 18:53:22 i see Mar 03 18:53:35 I'll try it, report here how it went Mar 03 18:53:35 is rhythmbox a client? Mar 03 18:53:46 yes, looks a bit like iTunes Mar 03 18:54:02 i see, and generates playlist files? Mar 03 18:54:14 does it run on windows? Mar 03 18:54:27 no, i dont think so Mar 03 18:54:34 But you have iTunes there Mar 03 18:54:53 yeah but it cant make playlists from files stored on an itunes server Mar 03 18:55:10 only from files it can see real path to Mar 03 18:55:38 and yeah i could point it to slug tunes via samba, but its so slow its not really viable Mar 03 18:56:23 I did that via NFS right now Mar 03 18:56:47 point rhythmbox to your tunes? Mar 03 18:56:48 mounted the slug music via nfs and got it as a folder for rhythmbox Mar 03 18:56:52 yes Mar 03 18:57:06 mm yeah i tried that with itunes and myslug and it sucked Mar 03 18:57:13 *my slug Mar 03 18:57:17 It went (surprisingly) reasonably fast Mar 03 18:57:24 many tunes? Mar 03 18:57:36 1500 Mar 03 18:57:54 mm well, good luck. Mar 03 19:05:18 which channel is the right one if i want some infos about installing Debian on NSLU? Mar 03 19:09:51 not sure, although i have installed debian on my nslu2 Mar 03 19:24:07 hmm if i install debian can I use my ntfs disks? (maybe auto mount?) Mar 03 19:26:44 ok, I'm goin' to kill myself a little bit: after ipkg remove xinetd, there is no telnet access (but still available the web interface, and telnet service started from there)... Mar 03 19:34:43 could someone help to gain telnet access back without reflash ? after ipkg remove xinetd, there is no telnet access (but still available the web interface, and telnet service started from there) and also I have access to 'admin' share... Mar 03 19:51:41 hmmm... but I still have telnet access if I remove the external flash... wtf Mar 03 20:01:35 lol, you sound like your having a nightmare Mar 03 20:02:09 az_707: i hear access to ntfs disks is flakey, although i havent tried Mar 03 20:24:50 hey, i'm having a problem with speed of file transfer to my slug. Mar 03 20:25:23 first step was testing hard disk speed. as per the wiki, i timed dd writing 600mb to my HD: Mar 03 20:25:30 http://pastebin.com/892893 Mar 03 20:26:23 result of 7.9mb/s, so this is pretty close to maximum (this is obviously not the problem) Mar 03 20:27:13 question is, why do i only get a max of 1.5mb/s when transferring files to the slug via vsftp Mar 03 20:27:20 next step: netio Mar 03 20:27:46 with server on pc, and client on slug, here are the results: Mar 03 20:27:48 http://pastebin.com/892883 Mar 03 20:28:04 with server on slug, and client on pc, here are the results: Mar 03 20:28:06 http://pastebin.com/892884 Mar 03 20:28:47 both show an average of around 2.2mb/s. since the wiki suggests that this should be in the range 11mb/s, something is wrong here :) Mar 03 20:30:34 does anyone know what my next step should be?? i don't know how i can track down what the actual problem is... Mar 03 20:30:52 all i know is, for some reason network transfer to the slug is not what it should be Mar 03 20:31:41 Yes. Solve your network problem. Mar 03 20:33:50 any suggestions on what the first step to solving the network problem should be? Mar 03 20:33:56 iwo: What is your network setup. Mar 03 20:35:21 wireless linksys router, slug connected directly to the router (wired), pc connected wirelessly. PC is in the same room as the router, so signal is 'Excellent' 54Mbps Mar 03 20:39:17 i get shit transfer from my laptop to slug over wireless Mar 03 20:39:26 11 megabyte per second is only possible on a 100 megabit link. Mar 03 20:39:32 my connection always says excellent 54mbps, but it isnt Mar 03 20:39:42 i get more like 1-2mb Mar 03 20:39:51 :( Mar 03 20:39:52 The 54Mbps is raw radio speed. Mar 03 20:39:59 if i want to put big data on slug from pc i always stick ethernet in Mar 03 20:40:34 i also get dropout when doing large files from pc to slug over wifi Mar 03 20:40:36 i hate 802.11g Mar 03 20:40:43 mine is b Mar 03 20:41:06 In practice it's about half so 2 to 2.5 mb/s is normal over a wireless link. Mar 03 20:41:06 so you get the same transfer speed as me, on a b network?! Mar 03 20:41:36 sounds like it, my router supports g, just this old laptop has intel proset b built in Mar 03 20:42:20 i have a 20 mtr ethernet cable rolled up behind my tv (where slug, router and xbox is) and if i ever need to transfer (rarely) i just wire up ;-) Mar 03 20:48:50 i guess it is the wireless link. just transferred a file from my xbox (wired) to the slug (wired): Mar 03 20:48:52 34850066 bytes received in 39.9 secs (8.5e+02 Kbytes/sec) Mar 03 20:49:06 so, reset, reflash, re-unslung, re-unsling, re-unslAng :)) still no chance with vsftpd :(( Mar 03 20:49:37 now without installing xinetd Mar 03 20:49:56 lol Mar 03 20:50:02 nick61: get debian, its great ;-) Mar 03 20:50:08 why is transfer of wired to wired only 850kb/s ? Mar 03 20:50:23 yeah, 10x for sugestion, but... Mar 03 20:50:36 for a noob in linux... Mar 03 20:50:42 its better Mar 03 20:50:58 the stuff in the wiki about 'debian for hardcore linux users' isnt accurate imo Mar 03 20:51:06 at least in docs tells that unslung is for noobs like me (is it ? :) Mar 03 20:51:39 if anything its easier, as all the docs on the web etc are more useful for a debian install, rather than the slightly more obscure unslung/opt Mar 03 20:51:51 nick61: which part of the step by step guide at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Vsftpd did you get stuck on? Mar 03 20:52:04 about the third paragrah Mar 03 20:52:05 aph Mar 03 20:52:34 iwo: starting vsftpd, after making that file:rc.xinetd Mar 03 20:53:15 the error I get now is: Mar 03 20:53:33 "# Unable to bind server socket: : Address already in use Mar 03 20:53:33 Unable to listen to socket Mar 03 20:53:49 that probably means vsftp is already running Mar 03 20:53:54 telnet slug 21 Mar 03 20:54:31 just a moment, do I need to close the current telnet session ? Mar 03 20:54:49 so, you made the file, you made it executable (with chmod), then you ran it (with ./rc.xinetd) Mar 03 20:55:00 no, you don't have to close the telnet session Mar 03 20:55:46 no, without dot in front of /unslung/rc.xinetd Mar 03 20:56:56 the guide does not tell you to run /unslung/rc.xinetd Mar 03 20:57:07 it tells you to edit /unslung/rc.xinetd, then run /etc/rc.d/rc.xinetd Mar 03 20:57:07 yes correct Mar 03 20:57:19 I've made as in the guide Mar 03 20:57:28 not /unslung/rc... Mar 03 20:57:45 my mistake here Mar 03 20:57:57 but I did correct in telnet Mar 03 20:58:43 well, if you get the error "Address already in use", then it is likely that you have been successful (and that vsftp is now running) Mar 03 20:59:04 open a new telnet to port 21 on your slug and press return a few times Mar 03 20:59:35 I've opened a new putty window with 192.168.0.77 on port 21 and I have only a black window with the green cursor Mar 03 20:59:40 nothing else Mar 03 20:59:47 oops Mar 03 20:59:52 pressed return a few times? Mar 03 21:00:02 wb iwo Mar 03 21:00:10 :D Mar 03 21:00:13 yes, now, still nothing Mar 03 21:00:35 on your slug try typing 'ps aux | grep ftp' Mar 03 21:01:04 653 ttyp0 root 2668 S grep ftp Mar 03 21:01:27 :) hmm, so what on earth is using port 21 Mar 03 21:01:27 no process running with ftp in the name Mar 03 21:02:15 iwo using xbmc? Mar 03 21:02:20 yes Mar 03 21:02:33 it f*cking rocks, dont you think? Mar 03 21:03:04 guys, may I explain exactly what I did until now ? Mar 03 21:03:08 yes Mar 03 21:03:11 :D Mar 03 21:03:17 (to both) lol Mar 03 21:03:21 lol Mar 03 21:03:28 nick61: try typing this: ps -A | grep ftp Mar 03 21:03:28 have you got a hdtv iwo ? Mar 03 21:04:01 655 ttyp0 root 2668 S grep ftp Mar 03 21:04:01 no, i've just got a (rather dated now) 28" widescreen crt tv Mar 03 21:04:11 I think it is the same Mar 03 21:04:23 locate the vsftpd binary and run it Mar 03 21:04:34 (without xinet or script) Mar 03 21:04:39 no locate on unslung :) Mar 03 21:04:48 get debian Mar 03 21:04:51 :)) Mar 03 21:05:00 ok, find it Mar 03 21:05:28 nick61: when you say you tried to connect using putty to port 21, which protocol did you use? Mar 03 21:05:35 just a moment, I became expert in finding files today :) Mar 03 21:05:40 he said telnet Mar 03 21:06:03 telnet Mar 03 21:06:27 iwo: are you using a recent version of xbmc? Mar 03 21:06:27 recheck anyway Mar 03 21:07:14 ok, vsftpd is in /opt/sbin Mar 03 21:07:24 yes, pretty recent i'd say it's about 1 month old Mar 03 21:07:32 how to run it ? Mar 03 21:08:14 ./vsftpd Mar 03 21:08:16 cd to folder and type ./ Mar 03 21:08:20 ok Mar 03 21:08:29 although it's probably not going to let you run it that way Mar 03 21:09:42 if you have created the /unslung/rc.xinetd correctly, you should be able to just reboot the slug Mar 03 21:09:50 after you reboot, vsftp will be running Mar 03 21:10:17 it sounds like you are having problems restarting xinetd manually - just reboot instead Mar 03 21:10:59 barnseenio: i can't get an xbox 360, cos it would only do a fraction of what my 4 year old xbox can do now :D Mar 03 21:11:12 hmmm, I ran in something different: I thought that what I see in 'admin' share is the same as in telnet / Mar 03 21:11:30 yeah its a stinker isnt it, although news this week seems to suggests 360 is cracked enough now Mar 03 21:12:02 yeah Mar 03 21:12:08 but its been fixed aswell... Mar 03 21:12:36 lol, they learned some lessons from xbox huh Mar 03 21:12:39 i doubt it. there's little chance of any serious homebrew development until a stable (and universal) technique of running homebrew is found Mar 03 21:13:00 its madness that the most useful gadgets in my house are born from hackers/crackers and geeks, not million dollar companies Mar 03 21:13:00 but in 'admin' share in /opt/sbin there is only vsftpd and in telnet /opt/sbin there are a lot of files but no vsftpd... Mar 03 21:13:04 the current technique is shafted as soon as anyone connects to live (and gets a f/w update) Mar 03 21:13:16 yup Mar 03 21:13:19 now I'm trying with reboot Mar 03 21:13:31 after nick61 try with debian ;-) Mar 03 21:13:54 whats the modchip scene like for 360s? Mar 03 21:14:13 people seem to be able to play copied games without much effort... Mar 03 21:14:20 i understand you can play backups, but not.. Mar 03 21:14:29 yeah no OS loader then Mar 03 21:14:45 no real modchips, (when i say real, i mean that totally compromise the system and allow homebrew apps) Mar 03 21:15:12 only crappy chips that allow you to switch dvd firmware easily Mar 03 21:16:01 most of the modding so far has been around changing dvd firmware to allow backup games to be run Mar 03 21:16:16 perhaps the only route for ppl who want to stream hd from their lan, is these network video players Mar 03 21:16:31 im sure i saw one recently for < £200 Mar 03 21:16:52 im frightened of how the interface might suck now im used to xbm though Mar 03 21:16:56 *xbmc Mar 03 21:17:28 best thing about the original xbox is, it's pretty much just a pc (733mhz intel processor), so it's so damn versatile Mar 03 21:17:40 xbmc is pretty much unrivalled because of this Mar 03 21:18:45 yeah, and tbh i usually download xvid/divx type films anyway, so im not shitting myself about hd quality Mar 03 21:18:46 NICE! I'm back in the situation with no answer on telnet screen !! (but web interface is working) Mar 03 21:19:13 although when i get my new telly, i know im going to be itching for high def content Mar 03 21:19:43 nick61: when you reboot, telnet is disabled again Mar 03 21:19:48 let me go to shoot myself for a while... Mar 03 21:19:58 lol Mar 03 21:19:59 I've enabled it of course Mar 03 21:20:06 debia... Mar 03 21:21:11 lol Mar 03 21:21:22 how to erase that file without telnet now ? (/unslung/rc.xinetd) Mar 03 21:21:32 esp Mar 03 21:21:32 I'm sure that's the trouble Mar 03 21:21:44 will it to be gone Mar 03 21:21:58 if we all concentrate together Mar 03 21:22:05 i think we have a chance Mar 03 21:23:14 You could put the drive on a pc.... Just hte thing is getting something that will let you delete it... Mar 03 21:23:20 as there are ext3 readers for windows Mar 03 21:23:44 just stick the flash drive in a pc, and remove the file Mar 03 21:25:09 most windows progs are read only for ext3 :\ Mar 03 21:25:55 linux reader from sysinternals, dloading now Mar 03 21:26:16 lol Mar 03 21:26:23 can you access the slug via the samba share? Mar 03 21:27:08 (windows explorer: \\192.168.0.77) Mar 03 21:27:30 yes Mar 03 21:27:51 * mwester thinks that if on is going to mess with xinetd on Unslung, one should follow the advice on the "enable telnet" web gui and install and use openssh instead. Mar 03 21:28:19 how nice, linux reader does just that:READ !! not delete... Mar 03 21:29:06 get linux deleter Mar 03 21:29:16 lol Mar 03 21:29:19 :)) Mar 03 21:29:35 most windows apps can only read ext3 Mar 03 21:29:41 btw nick61 mwester is right, should really get ssh going Mar 03 21:29:49 if it was ext2, i think there are some utils out there Mar 03 21:30:27 Hahah Mar 03 21:30:31 it is shorter with reflash, reunslung, you know ... Mar 03 21:30:36 I was just going to say Mar 03 21:31:04 go debian this time, just for kicks Mar 03 21:31:08 lol Mar 03 21:31:13 just not as quick an install Mar 03 21:31:22 no, point Mar 03 21:31:45 but it will put nick61 out of action for a few hours, in which time he will forget about his ftp woes Mar 03 21:31:56 hahaha Mar 03 21:32:01 boot with no external flash is ok Mar 03 21:33:00 lynksys does not want to make a ftp with passv mode? maybe is easier to wait for them :) Mar 03 21:33:12 got long? Mar 03 21:33:36 *linksys Mar 03 21:37:11 :D Mar 03 21:37:17 guys, done it. BUT what the f.. is the "delete" command in this unslung os ? Mar 03 21:37:30 I'm able to see that file Mar 03 21:37:47 I've booted without ext flash Mar 03 21:38:04 and I've inserted the flash after boot Mar 03 21:38:11 rem Mar 03 21:38:17 ok Mar 03 21:38:29 i think Mar 03 21:38:29 * mwester thinks rem is an msdos comment. Mar 03 21:38:39 try "rm" (for remove) Mar 03 21:38:43 :P Mar 03 21:38:48 one extra letter Mar 03 21:38:53 =) Mar 03 21:39:11 close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades :p Mar 03 21:39:21 ok, crossfingers boot with flash :) Mar 03 21:39:43 You are going to install openssh once you get that booting back up in unslung mode, right? Mar 03 21:40:21 lol Mar 03 21:40:21 Continue to use PuTTY (selecting ssh instead of telnet for the protocol), but you won't need to have telnet running on the NSLU2. Mar 03 21:40:24 ok, I'll do it, but at first I need to install xinetd probably... no? Mar 03 21:40:41 OpenSSH does not depend on xinetd - that's why it's so useful. Mar 03 21:40:57 You can munge inetd, xinetd, all you want, but openssh will continue to run. Mar 03 21:41:34 And it has the side benefit that it doesn't publish your passwords to anyone who can snoop the network. Mar 03 21:41:45 i should really change my unslung to use openssh Mar 03 21:41:56 And it automatically puts /opt/bin in your path... Mar 03 21:41:58 ok, gimme please the steps to install ssh, probably ipkg install something and after that...? Mar 03 21:42:12 Just "ipkg install openssh" Mar 03 21:42:16 That's it, that's all. Mar 03 21:42:20 AND Mar 03 21:42:24 put a text editor on it Mar 03 21:42:24 HA!! Mar 03 21:42:32 vi is a fine text editor! Mar 03 21:42:42 I have nano Reedy :) Mar 03 21:42:50 I'll bet you want a GUI, now too? Mar 03 21:42:55 lolol Mar 03 21:43:42 unfortunately it didn't work Mar 03 21:43:53 what didnt? Mar 03 21:44:10 still no answer in the telnet window if I boot with flash in port 2 Mar 03 21:44:34 may be easier to start afresh - use uplsug or the sercomm tool (for windows) to reflash the OS Mar 03 21:44:37 reformat the disk Mar 03 21:44:38 At this point, format the memory stick back to a FAT disk, then reflash. Mar 03 21:44:40 and start again Mar 03 21:44:48 5 times? Mar 03 21:44:54 * barnseenio will keep count Mar 03 21:45:07 :) Mar 03 21:45:14 * mwester has reflashed his slug so many times he's long ago lost count... Mar 03 21:45:36 lol Mar 03 21:45:38 lol Mar 03 21:45:52 Won't hurt it a bit; the flash won't wear out in our lifetimes. Mar 03 21:46:15 ok, it is absolutely mandatory to "sercomm" or is enough with FAT and than just unsling to disk2 ? Mar 03 21:47:32 I will try the "short" one at first... Mar 03 21:47:33 * barnseenio goes to get an alcoholic beverage Mar 03 21:47:56 You don't want to reflash the firmware, then? You can do that. It will complain that the flags marking it as already unslung are present, then clear those flags, and tell you to reboot. So, reboot, and the second attempt will be fine. Mar 03 21:48:14 The reflash is worth doing if you've never done it before Mar 03 21:48:22 then you know waht your doing Mar 03 21:48:38 unfortunately I've done it 2 times before :) Mar 03 21:48:49 ahh Mar 03 21:48:50 ok Mar 03 21:48:51 :) Mar 03 21:49:16 it is tricky with the pin on the reset buton but I've done it :) Mar 03 21:49:24 heh Mar 03 21:49:26 i just use a torx screwdriver Mar 03 21:51:51 ok, formatting... (ext3..) Mar 03 21:53:50 * barnseenio feels like ive gotta stay up for the successful conclusion to this Mar 03 21:53:58 hehe Mar 03 21:54:02 how long've you got? Mar 03 21:54:23 hm Mar 03 21:54:25 22:30 here Mar 03 21:54:32 UK? Mar 03 21:54:34 y Mar 03 21:54:58 ive got a large bottle of port on my desk, so i'll stay up as long as theres some left Mar 03 21:55:04 hehe Mar 03 21:55:54 as mwester says: Mar 03 21:55:55 1) Please unplug all drives from the NSLU2, Mar 03 21:55:55 2) reboot, Mar 03 21:55:55 3) and retry the unslinging process Mar 03 22:05:01 ok, back in business :) now ipkg update... Mar 03 22:05:47 yup Mar 03 22:05:49 then upgrade Mar 03 22:06:19 at first ipkg install unslung-feeds... or not ? Mar 03 22:06:28 Why? Mar 03 22:06:50 as written in docs... Mar 03 22:06:56 its one of the packages that is optional, but you dont really need aint it mwester? Mar 03 22:06:59 You would be best off sticking with the stable feeds before you try installing lord-knows-what from other feeds... Mar 03 22:07:38 well, I didn't know what is it, just that in the docs is written: Mar 03 22:07:50 1. Make sure you've unslung to an external hard drive or USB memory stick. Mar 03 22:07:50 2. Make sure you have setup a gateway and a DNS server for the NSLU2 under Administration/LAN/. Mar 03 22:07:50 3. ipkg update Mar 03 22:07:50 4. ipkg install unslung-feeds Mar 03 22:07:50 5. ipkg update Mar 03 22:08:06 If you can install it without the extra feeds, stay with the standard stuff. What page is that? Mar 03 22:08:23 in fact I'm really blind when doing these things...:( Mar 03 22:08:42 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Packages?from=Unslung.Packages Mar 03 22:08:59 One of the problems with the wiki is that it has much information that is not necessarily up-to-date... Mar 03 22:09:14 yup Mar 03 22:09:38 ok then, I've made only once ipkg update, now what is the best ? Mar 03 22:09:39 Don't install the extra feeds unless you can't find a package in the standard one. And when you use an extra feed, most everything is suspect. Mar 03 22:09:51 ipkg install openssh Mar 03 22:09:55 ok Mar 03 22:11:07 Then once you get logged in via openssh, you can continue with the ftp stuff - but you won't kill openssh like you can kill telnet when messing with inetd and xinetd. Mar 03 22:11:11 on one tv station now is "resident evil"... I'll send them the nslu2 to check that evil alive :) Mar 03 22:11:32 bbiab Mar 03 22:13:42 generating public/private keys... Mar 03 22:13:53 ok, done Mar 03 22:14:45 the suspense Mar 03 22:14:47 and logged in Mar 03 22:14:49 !! Mar 03 22:16:02 yay Mar 03 22:16:16 ok, now, vsftpd, proftpd with or without xinetd what to choose ? Mar 03 22:16:38 I just need passv ftp, that's all :( Mar 03 22:18:30 crunch time Mar 03 22:18:57 I know, now debian :) Mar 03 22:19:00 i recommend you do whatever mwester says, as i thought he was unofficial unslung god Mar 03 22:19:08 no thinking to be done Mar 03 22:19:47 I'm waiting for mwester sugestion than... Mar 03 22:20:05 If it wasnt for him, we wouldnt have unslung... Mar 03 22:22:14 23:42 < mwester> bbiab Mar 03 22:22:21 that may be a while Mar 03 22:22:31 what means bbiab ? Mar 03 22:23:09 be back in a bit Mar 03 22:23:15 ok Mar 03 22:28:00 my booze is running low Mar 03 22:29:20 lol Mar 03 22:32:16 where are you located guys ? I'm in east europe, bucharest Mar 03 22:32:42 im good old england Mar 03 22:32:57 *im in Mar 03 22:33:30 I was in colonies :)) in holiday last year (in canada and states) Mar 03 22:33:31 good? Mar 03 22:33:43 bloody rip off britain more like Mar 03 22:33:58 send my love to bucharest Mar 03 22:34:03 i have been there a few times Mar 03 22:34:31 hmm Mar 03 22:34:34 not very much to like here unfortunately, maybe the girls...:) Mar 03 22:34:34 know what you mean Mar 03 22:34:48 i liked the ski-ing Mar 03 22:34:51 you see that petition about the price of vista? Mar 03 22:34:59 and everything costing about 10% of what it did here Mar 03 22:35:08 no Reedy_Boy Mar 03 22:35:10 ah, yes indeed Mar 03 22:35:30 i dont pay for software often Mar 03 22:35:41 s/often/ever Mar 03 22:35:41 http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/VistaOvercharge/ Mar 03 22:35:42 lol Mar 03 22:36:03 what is it with that online poll thing for .gov? Mar 03 22:36:17 yup Mar 03 22:36:20 do ppl think it means anything? Mar 03 22:36:36 http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page4.asp Mar 03 22:36:39 c*nt Mar 03 22:36:53 well Mar 03 22:36:57 it made a difference to the road charging they were going to Mar 03 22:37:08 they decided it would be political suicide Mar 03 22:37:08 pah Mar 03 22:37:19 .gov does what they like Mar 03 22:37:42 they think they are in charge of us Mar 03 22:37:47 not them serving us Mar 03 22:38:01 anyway its too late for a political rant Mar 03 22:38:01 Reedy_Boy: haha, nice petition Mar 03 22:38:51 yaa Mar 03 22:39:44 well, in the oldest democracy in the world, the things are the same as here, in romania :) Mar 03 22:39:58 (politicaly speaking :) Mar 03 22:40:35 the same the world over Mar 03 22:41:01 nowhere is free of the tyranny of the ruling classes! Mar 03 22:41:37 we just get fucked over in nearly every way possible... Mar 03 22:42:21 which city Reedy_Boy ? Mar 03 22:42:40 Im south of York Mar 03 22:42:45 East of Hull Mar 03 22:42:53 oh not too far Mar 03 22:42:57 im Sheffield Mar 03 22:43:14 ah, cool Mar 03 22:43:54 and you work in IT? Mar 03 22:44:04 Im still in college (doing a-levels) Mar 03 22:44:13 i see Mar 03 22:44:18 yup Mar 03 22:44:28 i do 'work in it' when im doing some part time work Mar 03 22:44:30 now and again Mar 03 22:45:50 what do you do for a living? Mar 03 22:46:49 software Mar 03 22:46:56 development? Mar 03 22:47:15 yes, data warehouse stuff currently Mar 03 22:47:19 cool Mar 03 22:48:50 Im lookign at doing a software development/engineering degree Mar 03 22:49:09 ok Mar 03 22:49:13 im sure that would be fun Mar 03 22:49:21 although my software degree sucked Mar 03 22:50:21 where you go? Mar 03 22:50:25 im looking a MEng Mar 03 22:50:26 it was a checklist of teaching you any possible software which wasnt used commercially, or had any real use outside academic pipesmoking circles Mar 03 22:50:45 haha Mar 03 22:50:47 :( Mar 03 22:50:54 bsc in sheffield Mar 03 22:51:07 i think the engineering aspect may be more interesting Mar 03 22:51:23 software teaching in uk universities is a joke Mar 03 22:52:21 the whole university system is a joke Mar 03 22:52:39 heh, well i can only speak for the small part i experienced Mar 03 22:53:44 its this big push for most people to go to uni... Mar 03 22:53:52 when a lot of them really shouldnt be Mar 03 22:53:55 dumbed it down? Mar 03 22:54:02 in a way Mar 03 22:54:14 and then you can get tonnes of debt for the priveledge Mar 03 22:54:19 i'm coming in halfway through, but i think that the uk never really realised the value of polytechnics. Mar 03 22:54:28 well the debt is ridiculous Mar 03 22:54:40 universities arent good for as much as they are credited for Mar 03 22:54:54 im not really old enough to know much of the poly or technical college systems Mar 03 22:55:20 lol Mar 03 22:55:22 they seem good for bearded sandle wearing academics milking each other off about how many papers they got their names on Mar 03 22:55:28 neither am i... Mar 03 22:55:32 how old are you? Mar 03 22:55:35 30 Mar 03 22:56:52 there was a really funny blog by eric sink on the subject of academics in software development teams, ever read his blog? Mar 03 22:57:01 nope Mar 03 22:57:51 oh it was hilarious, about never have anyone on your team who has a phd, theyre guaranteed to be a self-serving bearded twat Mar 03 22:58:32 heh Mar 03 22:58:52 http://www.ericsink.com/bos/Hazards_of_Hiring.html Mar 03 22:58:56 great reading Mar 03 22:59:05 depends on where they did the phd, i think Mar 03 22:59:14 Universities don't teach people to be developers anyway. They don't even teach people to be programmers. Universities teach their students to be computer scientists. Mar 03 22:59:30 but yeh, phds attempt to instill a certain self image in people Mar 03 22:59:49 some of it is a bit tongue in cheek, but its a great read Mar 03 23:00:13 i think academics are very often self-important wankers Mar 03 23:00:16 thats why i am getting out of it Mar 03 23:00:28 work in it? Mar 03 23:01:00 i've worked an RA, just finishing my phd. and i agree with you totally. Mar 03 23:02:51 do your phd in anything interesting? Mar 03 23:03:28 na Mar 03 23:03:57 great Mar 03 23:05:49 heh Mar 03 23:07:04 guys, 10x a lot for your help, gotta go, I'll try again tomorrow, maybe a better day... for my nslu2 with ftp :) Mar 03 23:07:20 nick61: you better post in here when it works Mar 03 23:07:29 Yeah Mar 03 23:07:37 what are you trying to do with it Mar 03 23:07:38 You could post on the yahoo mailing list... Mar 03 23:07:52 i'll do it Mar 03 23:08:07 10x and good night Mar 03 23:12:41 ftp server? Mar 03 23:17:14 nite nite Mar 03 23:17:29 this is more action than this channel has seen for months! Mar 03 23:17:39 haha Mar 03 23:17:41 cyaa **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 04 02:59:58 2007