**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 07 02:59:57 2007 Mar 07 20:30:41 hi Mar 07 20:32:41 ~ask Mar 07 20:32:42 If you have a question, just ask, maybe someone have an answer... sometimes. Mar 07 20:32:55 * Reedy_Boy smiles: "I got it right :D" Mar 07 20:33:14 ~botsnack Mar 07 20:33:15 Reedy_Boy: thanks Mar 07 20:35:13 ~help Mar 07 20:37:48 ok. I want to compile the new version of gphoto for unslung, with libgphoto2, like it is done on this page, but I'm confused , I don't know how I can do. I've installed colinux, and now I have to do some cross-compiling I've never done. thx for answers Mar 07 20:38:12 the page is http://webuser.fh-furtwangen.de/~dersch/gphoto/remote.html Mar 07 21:35:03 join ##openslug Mar 07 21:35:08 join #openslug Mar 07 21:39:17 its /join Mar 07 22:07:13 part #nslu2-general Mar 08 01:38:01 hello Mar 08 01:38:14 You can use a powered USB2 hub Mar 08 01:38:25 really Mar 08 01:38:32 yeah i suck @ solidering Mar 08 01:38:51 Make sure it is a USB2 hub... :) Mar 08 01:38:54 truth b told i have shaky hands and couldnt mod n xbox if my life depended on it Mar 08 01:38:59 of course Mar 08 01:39:04 any how tos? Mar 08 01:39:31 For a hub? I'm pretty sure you just plug it in and go. Mar 08 01:40:02 You may need to make sure that all your drives map to the right mount point but I don't run unslung. I run either SlugOS BE or GentooSlug Mar 08 01:40:29 sorry got DC'd as you were saying? Mar 08 01:40:33 For a hub? I'm pretty sure you just plug it in and go. Mar 08 01:40:35 You may need to make sure that all your drives map to the right mount point but I don't run unslung. I run either SlugOS BE or GentooSlug Mar 08 01:40:54 oo Gentoo slug nice Mar 08 01:40:57 Or if you figure out how to solder: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/EnableExtraUSBPorts Mar 08 01:41:30 It will be a touch nicer when I succeed at Fattening my slug to either 64 or 128MB of RAM... Mar 08 01:41:32 but josh i remember somewhere spefically somewhere reading do not use a usb hub Mar 08 01:41:45 yeah right i wish lol :p Mar 08 01:42:06 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/UsingAUSBHub Mar 08 01:42:07 wonder if it takes simm ram or what .. Mar 08 01:42:24 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/USBHubs Mar 08 01:42:40 Not really. It takes chips from old DIMMs. Mar 08 01:43:17 oo cool. hey thats great joshin so all i need is a powered usb hub Mar 08 01:43:18 So I need to unsolder chips from a PC 133 Dimm and then depending on the size of the chips, either remove the ones on it now or piggyback them. Mar 08 01:43:44 yeah that im not sure of but if you succeed then let me know Mar 08 01:44:03 2 questions btw.. Mar 08 01:44:07 Sublim3__: read the USB links to make sure that it works for you Mar 08 01:44:10 ok Mar 08 01:44:24 first.. Mar 08 01:44:35 shit my memory sucks Mar 08 01:44:41 True! Mar 08 01:44:51 Ok, and the next one? Mar 08 01:45:06 yes right, how do i get X11 to run on the slug Mar 08 01:45:13 i followed the how to to a T Mar 08 01:45:22 and got very litte results Mar 08 01:45:30 like i wanna run gtk-demo Mar 08 01:45:31 X11? Ugh... Poor little slug... Mar 08 01:45:35 but no display Mar 08 01:45:35 oo Mar 08 01:45:49 lol Mar 08 01:45:53 its over clocked Mar 08 01:45:57 soo maybe that helps eh Mar 08 01:46:02 Are you trying to run it through vnc or do you have a VGA device for it? Mar 08 01:46:12 X server i guess Mar 08 01:46:27 no vga device i guess Mar 08 01:46:46 didnt know there was such a thing and even so if there was drivers also Mar 08 01:46:46 An X server needs a video device. So the only thing that would work would be a pseudo device and connect to it via vnc. Mar 08 01:46:59 1 sec Mar 08 01:47:01 There's a USB device that could work. Mar 08 01:47:31 Why do you want X on the slug? with 32MB of RAM, it really is underpowered for it. Mar 08 01:47:43 this link says you dont need one Mar 08 01:47:57 yeea just wanted to show off to my bro guess i dont need to Mar 08 01:48:01 but also Mar 08 01:48:09 What link? Post it. Mar 08 01:48:14 here Mar 08 01:48:21 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/X11 Mar 08 01:48:48 Ok, that is running software on the slug that talks to your X server on your desktop. Mar 08 01:49:01 right thats what i meant to say Mar 08 01:49:14 but the guy isnt clear to me Mar 08 01:49:28 Unforturnately I failed my mind reading course in college. Mar 08 01:49:37 So you need to say what you mean. :p Mar 08 01:49:40 hehe Mar 08 01:49:55 What problem are you having? Mar 08 01:49:56 yeah im still linux rusty Mar 08 01:50:08 dont know how to execute the proper command Mar 08 01:50:10 Rusty implies that you used to be good with it. Mar 08 01:50:12 or in which order Mar 08 01:50:15 yeah Mar 08 01:50:29 i already installed the nessary packages Mar 08 01:50:46 added the forwarded ling Mar 08 01:50:46 line* Mar 08 01:50:49 The instructions look pretty complete to me. Mar 08 01:51:15 ok so lets say im at promt in linux Mar 08 01:51:24 Did you make sure that there isn't a line later that disables what you enabled? Did you restart openssh? Are you sure that openssh is running and not dropbear? Mar 08 01:51:37 and i type: # ssh root@192.168.1.77 Mar 08 01:51:48 yes yes yes Mar 08 01:52:09 And when you type "echo $DISPLAY" what pops up? Mar 08 01:52:16 hold on Mar 08 01:52:27 i did this earilier now im on a windows machine Mar 08 01:52:30 Did you also change the line on your desktop? Mar 08 01:52:54 no it dosent say to do that X11 forwarding for the desktop poart Mar 08 01:52:56 part( Mar 08 01:52:58 Desktop's openssh client application Mar 08 01:53:26 ok hmm.. Mar 08 01:53:42 "And you will need ssh software that understands how to forward the X protocol on both the X server system, and on the slug" Mar 08 01:54:20 ooo i see so it was just a general tut then not a full step by step Mar 08 01:54:32 umm can i use cygwin Mar 08 01:54:49 it dosent matter i just wanted to try it out no biggie Mar 08 01:54:57 thx tho josh.. Mar 08 01:55:18 Cygwin X should support it. Mar 08 01:55:26 so like what things running linux might be usefull to me? Mar 08 01:55:33 on the slug that is Mar 08 01:55:36 But again, you need to have ssh configured properly Mar 08 01:55:42 ture Mar 08 01:55:45 A grammar checker might be nice. :p Mar 08 01:55:57 but im not gonna hassle you about that cause thats a failing on my part Mar 08 01:56:02 yeah true Mar 08 01:56:04 #linux or ##linux would be better for that question. Mar 08 01:56:29 im using mric, Mar 08 01:56:38 I run an IRC proxy and a firewall on mine. Mar 08 01:56:57 you run a firewall behind just irc Mar 08 01:56:59 I can control where my kids can surf to without impacting where my wife and I can go to. Mar 08 01:57:02 and a proxy? Mar 08 01:57:06 wow Mar 08 01:57:09 nice Mar 08 01:57:33 yeah too bad when i was a teenager noone knew how to setup that stuff Mar 08 01:57:39 I also run a small VPN that allows family members to connect from their machines to upload and download pictures and the like. Mar 08 01:57:52 how does that work anyway i mean you would have to add certain links that would pass? Mar 08 01:58:00 cool Mar 08 01:58:04 yeah thats neat Mar 08 01:58:06 The kids have a whitelist only ruleset. Mar 08 01:58:14 yeah i thought Mar 08 01:58:32 so this is sperate from slug Mar 08 01:58:39 seperate Mar 08 01:58:40 It all runs on the slug. Mar 08 01:58:55 neat man thats great Mar 08 01:59:03 And I'm running Xchat on windows and connecting to my slug which is running irssi. Mar 08 01:59:15 irssi whats what Mar 08 01:59:17 At least at this moment. Mar 08 01:59:33 It is a console based irc client that you can use as a proxy. Mar 08 01:59:43 One linux tool that you should learn is 'screen' Mar 08 01:59:50 It is the command of the gods. Mar 08 02:00:01 oh yes? Mar 08 02:00:36 hehe i didnt know married people use terms like pwnt and god and uber owned n stuff Mar 08 02:00:45 nvm Mar 08 02:01:04 oook so just a usb hub (powered)? Mar 08 02:01:05 lol Mar 08 02:01:10 yup Mar 08 02:03:05 * joshin really needs to invent a sterilization ray gun. Mar 08 02:03:58 joshin, hey can i get your email, you seem like a coold dude,i promise i wont do nothing but, once n awhile msg you are very knowlageable Mar 08 02:04:02 Is your connection provided via a network of carrier pidgeons? Mar 08 02:04:11 LMFAO no its wildblue Mar 08 02:04:13 Sublim3__: I'm here much of the time. Mar 08 02:04:28 im getting couple of isdn lines this monday Mar 08 02:04:44 do you know of any lpb providers Mar 08 02:04:59 yeah wildblue is satellite Mar 08 02:05:01 You can also use the slug with a couple of USB ethernet devices to load balance between multiple internet connections. Mar 08 02:05:15 I had Starband when I lived in sorta-rural Oregon. Mar 08 02:05:27 yeah thats a bit much for me though ill use a simple router for that Mar 08 02:05:35 buut.. Mar 08 02:05:45 yeah i have this here for that Mar 08 02:05:55 its a Xinicom dual wan router Mar 08 02:06:13 Cool. Mar 08 02:06:21 * joshin wonders if it runs Linux inside Mar 08 02:06:40 naw sorry try a wrt54G Mar 08 02:06:58 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833174002 Mar 08 02:07:33 that link is to the xincom Mar 08 02:08:03 so how would the slug detect the drivers for that Mar 08 02:08:22 load balance 2x128k isdn Mar 08 02:08:31 It seems interesting. Mar 08 02:08:47 You would load them into Unslung the same way you load other software. Mar 08 02:08:50 i mean i have a 1720 router with 2x128k wic cards Mar 08 02:09:08 but unslung has drivers for all this stuff Mar 08 02:09:13 I have an older cisco router than the 1720. Mar 08 02:09:36 I don't know unslung. Remember the line where I said that I ran SlugOS and GentooSlug? Mar 08 02:10:47 Unslung seemed a touch too limited for me. Mar 08 02:11:01 But I'm a weirdo that runs Gentoo... Mar 08 02:12:19 sorry i think my connection is from hell Mar 08 02:12:43 ok what were you saying Mar 08 02:13:06 i was last droped @ older then 1720 router Mar 08 02:13:53 I have an older cisco router than the 1720. Mar 08 02:13:58 I don't know unslung. Remember the line where I said that I ran SlugOS and GentooSlug? :) Mar 08 02:14:02 Unslung seemed a touch too limited for me. Mar 08 02:14:04 But I'm a weirdo that runs Gentoo... Mar 08 02:14:33 lol l like gentoo Mar 08 02:15:09 yeah last i saw there was well over 100 packages for ipkg Mar 08 02:15:14 on optware Mar 08 02:15:33 I'd have thought there were more than 1000 Mar 08 02:15:50 1000 yeah,so is there a change of me bricking my router with out recover if i put slugos on there Mar 08 02:16:02 i mean is slugos debian Mar 08 02:16:12 im a little confused about that Mar 08 02:16:34 slugos is not debian Mar 08 02:16:54 debian and gentoo can be bootstrapped on top of slugos Mar 08 02:18:09 slugos is not debian. debian and gentoo can be bootstrapped on top of slugos. yes, you can brick your router. yes, it can be recovered if you screw up. no, I won't do it for you Mar 08 02:18:14 sorry Mar 08 02:18:17 :) Mar 08 02:18:30 lol Mar 08 02:18:55 oh i remember that 1st question Mar 08 02:18:56 Tuesday Mar 08 02:19:29 if i boot up the slug without the unslinged harddrive will it it brick it Mar 08 02:19:39 no Mar 08 02:20:08 so for some reason it the guy who wrote unslung said it always has to be connected Mar 08 02:20:16 but i intereperted it wrong i guess Mar 08 02:20:30 It will fail to boot properly without the drive attached. Mar 08 02:20:52 hmm so what happens after that Mar 08 02:21:02 i can reattach it or.? Mar 08 02:21:06 anway Mar 08 02:21:11 For the third and final time, I am not an unslung expert. Try it and see. Mar 08 02:21:25 slugos and debian hmm seems interesting Mar 08 02:21:30 Worst case, you reflash. Mar 08 02:21:42 yes this is ture Mar 08 02:21:45 tre Mar 08 02:21:55 true* LOL Mar 08 02:22:11 well thx for all the newbish info again Mar 08 02:22:56 good luck on your quest for the perfect script, Mar 08 02:22:57 mt Mar 08 02:22:57 No problem. I would not recommend your slug be your experimental linux machine. Learn it on a desktop and then experiment on your slug. Good luck. Mar 08 02:23:15 ok Mar 08 02:23:25 quit Mar 08 02:24:14 I should have offered to buy his slug from him after he bricks it... Mar 08 02:24:56 * joshin is channelling his inner curmudgeon again... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 08 02:59:57 2007