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Mar 22 20:23:00 <Natalia_M> dddd
Mar 22 20:23:09 <Natalia_M> oi
Mar 22 20:23:15 <Natalia_M> oi
Mar 22 20:27:33 <capbot> caplink811 :)
Mar 22 20:56:29 <UncleRemus> I have mounted my old unslung disc here now and wants to see which ipkg'es I have installed. Is there a file somewhere which contains this information?
Mar 22 20:57:02 <UncleRemus> This is the disc I used for my NSLU, but now mounted to my PC
Mar 22 21:22:48 <kapookee> UncleRemus:  /share/flash/data/usr/lib/ipkg/status  ?
Mar 22 21:25:33 <UncleRemus> kapookee: Yes, that was perfect
Mar 22 21:25:44 <UncleRemus> Thanks a lot.
Mar 22 21:28:01 <UncleRemus> Another question, this site http://ipkg.fireflymediaserver.org/armeb , do you think it is temporarily down?
Mar 22 21:28:33 <UncleRemus> The thing is that I want to run nightlies for mt-daapd and it says I should 
Mar 22 21:28:43 <UncleRemus> echo "src firefly http://ipkg.fireflymediaserver.org/armeb" > /etc/ipkg/firefly.conf
Mar 22 21:28:53 <UncleRemus> but then the ipkg update fails
Mar 22 21:37:19 <kapookee> UncleRemus:  Yea, I get a "server not found" error when trying the URL you typed.  You can connect to http://.fireflymediaserver.org though!
Mar 22 21:38:52 <UncleRemus> kapookee: Yes, I have noticed that. Strange...
Mar 22 21:40:23 <UncleRemus> The forum link is down also
Mar 22 21:43:05 <UncleRemus> On the bottom here it says how to do it, I'll try that instead
Mar 22 21:43:07 <UncleRemus> http://wiki.mt-daapd.org/wiki/Quickstart_NSLU2
Mar 22 21:47:30 <UncleRemus> Yes, seems to work!
Mar 22 21:50:58 <kapookee> sweet!  Nothing like a workable work-around.  :-)
Mar 22 21:58:57 <Reedy_Boy> kapookee: I saw your apology on NSLU2-linux
Mar 22 21:58:58 <Reedy_Boy> hehe
Mar 22 22:00:59 <kapookee> Well, giving a fellow SLUGger bad info is grounds for that.  :-)
Mar 22 22:40:25 <theblue_> Any EEs in here?
Mar 22 22:40:47 <theblue_> EIther way, I'm trying to figure out this:
Mar 22 22:41:12 <theblue_> I've got a small 12V, 8Ah battery, would it be able to power a slug and a few WRTs?
Mar 22 22:41:25 <theblue_> Though the slug will need a 12-5V converter, I know.
Mar 22 23:21:34 <kapookee> theblue_:  Don;t know if this will help, but there is a 'how to' on 'How to make a battery powered slug' on the nslu2-linux website.
Mar 22 23:21:45 <theblue_> I saw, it isn't very useful
Mar 22 23:21:48 <theblue_> But thanks anyway.
Mar 22 23:21:53 <kapookee> np
Mar 22 23:24:55 <mwester> theblue_: yes.  but the follow-on question is, for how long?
Mar 22 23:25:44 <theblue_> True.
Mar 22 23:25:55 <theblue_> Well, these are ex-UPS batteries, I'd imagine for a while.
Mar 22 23:26:31 <mwester> ex-UPS or not isn't really the issue - efficiency of the voltage converter, etc. is the issue.
Mar 22 23:26:36 <theblue_> Right.
Mar 22 23:26:45 <theblue_> But would you know where to get a converter?
Mar 22 23:26:46 <mwester> BTW, why more than one WRT?
Mar 22 23:27:02 <theblue_> Mostly to say that I can.
Mar 22 23:27:18 <theblue_> One for wifi, one for Asterisk, one for various crap, and the slug runs Debian, it's general purpose.
Mar 22 23:27:40 <mwester> Put it all on one slug, or two at most, much more efficient.
Mar 22 23:27:52 <theblue_> Good idea.
Mar 22 23:27:58 <theblue_> But I'd still need the voltage converter.
Mar 22 23:28:02 <theblue_> Since the slugs take 5V.
Mar 22 23:29:30 <theblue_> So where would I get one?
Mar 22 23:30:01 <mwester> Search for alternative power sources, such a solar -- sites and references for that would often include circuitry to handle voltage conversions in as effecient a manner as possible.
Mar 22 23:30:33 <theblue_> Noted, thanks.
Mar 22 23:31:01 <mwester> You local library should have a copy of "The ARRL Handbook", which while geared for HAM radio use, generally has topics on the use of battery and solar power that apply to digital circuitry as well.
Mar 22 23:31:26 <theblue_> Ah!
Mar 22 23:31:30 <theblue_> I've got that!
Mar 22 23:32:42 * mwester has the 1948 edition on his bookshelf  (and a more recent one, too, just in case)
Mar 22 23:35:12 <pierrelux> theblue_: check the schematic here: http://www.aqra.ca/Alimentation-regulee-5V-5A don't need to know some french...
Mar 22 23:35:21 <theblue_> I know French anyway.
Mar 22 23:35:24 <theblue_> mwester, You're a ham?
Mar 22 23:35:30 <pierrelux> or use two 7805 in parallel (ugly)
Mar 22 23:36:06 * theblue_ got the 2006 edition free from a local club raffle.
Mar 22 23:36:40 <pierrelux> 5V 2A is what the slug need
Mar 22 23:36:57 <theblue_> Hmmm....
Mar 22 23:38:47 <pierrelux> it's probably less though... see here http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/MakeABatteryPoweredSlug
Mar 22 23:39:39 <theblue_> I'll err on the side of safety.
Mar 22 23:39:54 <theblue_> Here's my current list of ideas for contents of this thing:
Mar 22 23:41:01 <theblue_> 2 (or more) WRTs, 1 slug and a USB HDD to go with it (powered from 12V), 12 lead-acid battey, voltage converter, Cisco ATA, Small (very small!) phone for use on the ATA>
Mar 22 23:41:18 <theblue_> !
Mar 22 23:41:42 <theblue_> I could get a cheap USB hub, that's powered from 12V, and hijack the 5V output to power the slug!
Mar 22 23:44:25 <theblue_> No, the hub wouldn't supply enough...
Mar 23 00:00:38 <joshin> theblue_: aren't you a ham?  You should be able to whip together something to convert from 12v to 5v.  :p
Mar 23 00:10:23 <theblue_> joshin, I am, but I honestly don't know how.
Mar 23 00:10:27 <theblue_> So I called my elmer.
Mar 23 00:10:29 <theblue_> He's got something.
Mar 23 00:10:46 <theblue_> (Especially sad, since I'm an Extra.)
Mar 23 00:12:09 <theblue_> That leaves connectors.
Mar 23 00:12:28 <theblue_> Anyone know what kind of connector I should get to plug into the slug or WRT?
Mar 23 00:12:47 <theblue_> Since I'm trying not to hack off the ends of the power cable.
Mar 23 00:14:07 <OneAndOnly> The violent solution is the best solution. Hack it off! :)
Mar 23 00:14:38 <theblue_> You think Linksys would send me another one
Mar 23 00:14:39 <theblue_> ?
Mar 23 00:14:58 <theblue_> "I opened the box, and there it was, without the wire!
Mar 23 00:17:10 <theblue_> Nah
Mar 23 00:17:19 <theblue_> Seriously, though.
Mar 23 00:17:22 <theblue_> Which connector do I use?
Mar 23 00:38:47 <theblue_> ...
Mar 23 00:52:47 <joshin> theblue_: size 'N' 
Mar 23 00:58:12 <mwester> PL-259's are nice, too.
Mar 23 01:05:05 <theblue_> joshin, Isn't that a much larger coax connector?
Mar 23 01:06:36 <joshin> http://fredericiana.com/2006/08/05/linksys-nslu2-battery-ups/
Mar 23 01:07:16 <joshin> I prefer BNC's to Pl-259's.
Mar 23 01:07:46 <theblue_> Woah!
Mar 23 01:07:47 <theblue_> Nice one!
Mar 23 01:08:41 <theblue_> I don't believe it.
Mar 23 01:08:45 <theblue_> http://www.radioshack.com/sm-size-n-coaxial-dc-power-plug--pi-2102488.html
Mar 23 01:08:58 <theblue_> Then what's that make the WRTs?
Mar 23 01:11:07 * joshin goes looking in the above line for a sentence.
Mar 23 01:11:41 <theblue_> Don't bother, you won't find one!
Mar 23 01:13:03 <theblue_> Inside diameter is around 6mm.
Mar 23 01:13:34 <theblue_> I mean, outside.
Mar 23 01:13:39 <theblue_> The size of the hole.
Mar 23 01:14:23 <theblue_> The problem is, all of the connectors are like that!
Mar 23 01:23:09 <theblue_> ?
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