**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 05 02:59:56 2007
May 05 08:45:21 <jones-_> Hello again
May 05 08:45:43 <jones-_> This is slighly off topic, but maybe someone can help
May 05 08:46:16 <jones> I notice that when uploading file to the NAS via FTP, it goes at maximum 2.5 MB/sec
May 05 08:46:48 <jones> a friend of mine who has the nslu2 as well peaks to 5 MB/sec
May 05 08:47:07 <jones> what could be the bottle neck?
May 05 09:17:58 <drif> is there any load on the slug?
May 05 09:18:15 <jones> let's see
May 05 09:18:28 <drif> and how high it gets when you transfer via ftp
May 05 09:18:31 <drif> which ftpd?
May 05 09:19:13 <jones> load average: 4.14, 3.68, 3.26
May 05 09:19:25 <jones> the ftp server is vsftpd
May 05 09:19:45 <jones> the load is quite high
May 05 09:20:51 <jones> I think I omitted to mention that I run debian on it
May 05 09:21:09 <drif> transfer rate 6MB/sec, 1.85 1.20 1.07 3/55 11449
May 05 09:21:14 <drif> unslung
May 05 09:21:37 <drif> and that's underclocked unit
May 05 09:23:15 <jones> hmm can it be because of my high load?
May 05 09:23:28 <jones> my unit is not underclocked (266 bogomips)
May 05 09:24:17 <drif> what are you running on it?
May 05 09:24:26 <jones> debian
May 05 09:24:32 <jones> ah
May 05 09:24:32 <drif> services
May 05 09:25:08 <jones> hmm the ftp server, sshd of course, then i've got irssi and slrn running in gnu/screen, and a bittorrent client
May 05 09:25:22 <drif> which?
May 05 09:25:49 <jones> the official one, btdownloadcurses
May 05 09:26:31 <jones> well the problem, i guess, is the swapping
May 05 09:26:40 <jones> i'm using 26mb of swap
May 05 09:26:50 <jones> because the bt client is taking 14mb
May 05 09:26:59 <drif> bittorent clients in general seem rather poisonous to slug
May 05 09:27:33 <drif> Filename                        Type            Size    Used    Priority
May 05 09:27:33 <drif> /dev/sda3                       partition       56220   14932   -1
May 05 09:29:44 <jones> Yeah, I also get 14mb of swap if I kill bt
May 05 09:43:01 <drif> how much load you've planned having on torrents?
May 05 09:43:07 <drif> as sessions
May 05 09:44:36 <jones> actually not much
May 05 09:44:49 <jones> i use it quite occasionally
May 05 09:45:12 <jones> but now I shut it down, and ftp keeps going no more than 2.5 mb
May 05 09:45:15 <jones> per second
May 05 09:49:36 <drif> has it ever been better?
May 05 09:50:32 <jones> no, but I've owned for 16 hours :)
May 05 09:50:38 <jones> owned it
May 05 09:51:39 <drif> could it be your network switch? have you set linkspeed/duplex mode to 100Mbps/Full on all devices? on rare occasions autonegotiation could cause something like that 
May 05 09:52:21 <jones> I would have to check
May 05 09:52:26 <jones> my network is like this
May 05 09:52:40 <jones> the modem connects to the internet
May 05 09:52:45 <jones> the router connects to the modem
May 05 09:52:47 <drif> I once had a switch which otherwise worked 'ok' but some cards/computers just couldn't see each other through that switch
May 05 09:52:52 <drif> and it wasn't manageable
May 05 09:52:54 <jones> the nas connects to the router
May 05 09:53:03 <jones> the wireless AP connects to the router
May 05 09:53:08 <jones> my computer connects to the AP
May 05 09:53:48 <drif> how's the wlan working otherwise?
May 05 09:53:56 <jones> I can't remember, tho, any linkspeed/duplex mode to 100Mbps/Full option on the web interfaces of any
May 05 09:54:11 <drif> I mean computers
May 05 09:54:14 <jones> well I get good signal, but I have never benchmarked it
May 05 09:54:21 <jones> I only have one computer
May 05 09:54:23 <drif> maybe you should? :D
May 05 09:54:30 <drif> two, slug is computer also
May 05 09:54:44 <drif> and pretty hard to use it stand-alone :D without serious modding
May 05 09:54:52 <jones> :)
May 05 09:55:29 <jones> i actually have my gf's laptop, I could try to connect it directly to the nas with a cross cable, and test the speed
May 05 09:55:40 <jones> or check transfer between the two computers
May 05 09:56:16 <drif> through wlan
May 05 09:56:39 <jones> yeah
May 05 09:56:40 <drif> is it by any chance on some compatibility mode?
May 05 09:56:44 <drif> b+g?
May 05 09:57:00 <jones> i'm sure the AP is set as g
May 05 09:57:05 <jones> i.e. the fastest one
May 05 09:57:11 <drif> sure? or dead sure? :D
May 05 09:57:15 <jones> but hmm, let me check my comp
May 05 09:57:19 <jones> ok let me check both :)
May 05 09:57:45 <drif> my telewell used b+g, got low transfer rates even though I had no b devices connected
May 05 09:58:53 <jones> a-ha!
May 05 09:59:02 <jones> the AP is in "Mixed" mode
May 05 09:59:07 <jones> i'll now move it to G-only
May 05 09:59:18 <drif> :D hope that'll do the trick
May 05 09:59:22 <jones> g is the fastest, right?
May 05 09:59:30 <drif> depends on your hardware :D
May 05 09:59:37 <drif> on my network, yes
May 05 09:59:51 <drif> but I'll manage
May 05 10:00:43 <jones> nope, still 2.5mb
May 05 10:00:49 <jones> let's check the computer
May 05 10:01:37 <drif> does your AP require reboot?
May 05 10:01:38 <jones> $ iwconfig ra1 | grep "Bit Rate"
May 05 10:01:43 <jones> Bit Rate=54 Mb/s 
May 05 10:01:48 <jones> yes, it rebooted
May 05 10:01:51 <drif> ok
May 05 10:02:27 <jones> but hey you know what?
May 05 10:02:32 <jones> i can live with 2.5mb/s
May 05 10:02:34 <jones> :)
May 05 10:02:44 <jones> it's not like I'm moving big files all the time
May 05 10:03:45 <drif> and people wonder why I'm happy with my (older) unslung :D
May 05 10:03:57 <drif> everything works like a charm
May 05 10:04:25 <jones> well here too
May 05 10:04:35 <jones> and it's fun to have a debian system
May 05 10:05:02 <drif> well, with those loads.. 
May 05 16:36:29 <lanwin> hi..where can i get the kernel modules for "Debian/NSLU2 Stable 4.0r0"` ?
May 05 21:22:04 <pyllyukko> hi. does anyone know from where could i download a pre-built cross compilation toolchain for nslu/debian etch?
May 05 22:04:24 <NSLU2-IRC> hi
May 05 22:05:09 <Daemonic666> i'm an ew nslu user :)
May 05 22:05:43 <Daemonic666> have 2 little questions....someone can help a sec please ?
May 05 22:08:03 <Daemonic666> 1 - i have installed unslug in internal rom without probs...for perfection i wanna set the spin down of my 2 lacie usb hd
May 05 22:08:08 <Daemonic666> have read the faq
May 05 22:08:54 <Daemonic666> but without more packets or kernel patches is possible to set it ?
May 05 22:09:13 <Daemonic666> don't wanna install unslug on external drive
May 05 22:27:45 <Lunar_Lamp> Er, you have to don't you?
May 05 22:31:55 <Daemonic666> ?
May 05 22:32:08 <Daemonic666> i have all in internal rom and cannot add packets :(
May 05 22:32:43 <caplink811_log> as long as you unsling to an external device, this wont work
May 05 22:33:04 <caplink811_log> morning, btw :)
May 05 22:36:06 <Daemonic666> morning :)
May 05 22:36:36 <Daemonic666> for now i succesfully used a usb hub with 3 lacie brick hd
May 05 22:36:48 <Daemonic666> with 500 gb every hd
May 05 22:37:01 <Daemonic666> installed unslug to internal rom
May 05 22:37:16 <Daemonic666> one prob is that i cannot change share names
May 05 22:37:26 <Daemonic666> maybe cause all disks are NTFS ?
May 05 22:37:34 <Daemonic666> second is the spin down
May 05 22:37:40 <Daemonic666> i can access via telnet
May 05 22:37:55 <Daemonic666> maybe i can use a script like the ones in the faq ?
May 05 22:39:28 <caplink811_log> 1st, maybe, myself use native formatted disks, 2nd, myself have no need for a spin down, 3rd, there is at least one page at www.nslu2-linux.org, but see 2nd ;)
May 05 22:39:45 <Daemonic666> sigh :(
May 05 22:40:49 <Daemonic666> i will try to unslug with a 3rd disk
May 05 22:40:57 <mwester> You cannot do anything with shares, users, or groups unless you have at least one natively-formatted disk on the NSLU2. This is Linksys behavior; Unslung does not alter that.
May 05 22:41:08 <caplink811_log> maybe, that you're located in tirol, maybe that you're able to read and understand german language, so there are some solutions at www.nslu2-info.de
May 05 22:41:08 <Daemonic666> ok
May 05 22:41:20 <Daemonic666> no sorry i'm from italy :)
May 05 22:41:33 <Daemonic666> will try now with a third hd
May 05 22:41:36 <Daemonic666> on port 1
May 05 22:41:45 <caplink811_log> assuming, that south tirol is a part of italy ;)
May 05 22:41:59 <Lunar_Lamp> Daemonic666, the nslu2 doesn't like NTFS.  Either with the default of unslung.
May 05 22:42:07 <Lunar_Lamp> It doesn't get full functionality with it.
May 05 22:42:48 <mwester> Spindown is not a design goal of unslung; there is no mechanism to manage spindown on most USB<->IDE disk enclosure chipsets.
May 05 22:43:20 <Lunar_Lamp> Additionally, I believe there are some that suggest the spindown would decrease life of the usb disk?
May 05 22:43:20 <Daemonic666> i'm gonna try scsi-stop and other stuff from faqs
May 05 22:43:29 <mwester> Won't work, but go ahead and try :)
May 05 22:43:29 <Daemonic666> as soon as i unslug to hd
May 05 22:44:14 <Daemonic666> i'm using nslu2+hds only as a media server...leaving all running 24/7 is a waste of money and of hd life
May 05 22:44:16 <Daemonic666> imho
May 05 22:44:19 <caplink811_log> which should formated by the nslu
May 05 22:45:00 <mwester> Many people think otherwise; there is little cost to keeping the drive spinning, and the hd life is improved by letting it run fulltime.
May 05 22:45:33 <Daemonic666> and don't want that NOISE when i sleep ! :)
May 05 22:45:44 <mwester> But regardless of people's opinions, the technical facts remain that the USB<->IDE chipsets do not support the necessary transactions to manage spindown features on drives.
May 05 22:47:28 <Daemonic666> all usb-ide chipsets ??? someone reported some spin down in the faqs
May 05 22:47:44 <mwester> If a drive spins down on either Linksys or Unslung firmware, it is not the SLUG that is causing it to do so, it is an inherent feature in the programming of the USB<->IDE chipset in the enclosure, or of the drive itself.  There are no commands that can be issued from the OS that can change that behavior.
May 05 22:48:05 <mwester> No-one has ever reported a model # for a chipset that *DOES* support the power-management features.
May 05 22:52:49 <Daemonic666> formatting a third disk now...
May 05 22:52:55 <Daemonic666> inside web interface...
May 05 22:57:24 <Daemonic666> still formatting LOL it's slowww :)
May 05 22:58:11 <Daemonic666> if those damn lacie brick will spin down i will buy 10 nslu2 for everything i have ahhaha
May 05 23:07:29 <Daemonic666> wow !!! unslung from disk 2 !!!
May 05 23:08:54 <Daemonic666> mwester : what do you suggest next ? install scsi-idle and openssh ?
May 05 23:14:29 <caplink811_log> install and configure openssh 1st
May 05 23:17:18 <Daemonic666> done
May 05 23:20:51 <Daemonic666> wow ssh working very well :)
May 05 23:26:30 <Daemonic666> someone tried scsi-idle ?
May 05 23:54:54 <Daemonic666> guys !!!
May 05 23:55:22 <Daemonic666> scsi-stop /dev/sdb1 just stopped my external usb lacie brick !!!!
May 05 23:55:58 <Daemonic666> now i will try to spin it up :)
May 05 23:56:39 <Daemonic666> just an open folder and the spin up is working !!!!!!!!
May 05 23:57:26 <Guest5855> ###php
May 05 23:57:32 <Guest5855> ?
May 05 23:57:49 <Guest5855> gr
May 05 23:58:50 <NSLU2-IRC> "/nick Chris
May 05 23:59:19 <Oceantica> Whew
May 05 23:59:24 <Oceantica> alright is anyone on right now?
May 06 00:01:44 <Oceantica> ????????????????????????//
May 06 00:02:40 <Daemonic666> me
May 06 00:02:42 <Daemonic666> ç:)
May 06 00:03:59 <Oceantica> hey lol
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