**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 30 02:59:57 2007
May 30 03:46:55 <jamieg> I'd like to try running a little-endian kernel and buildroot image on an NSLU2.
May 30 03:48:00 <jamieg> But I don't know if RedBoot, Apex, etc. can boot a little-endian kernel, or, if the NSLU2 boots big-endian, where does it switch to little-endian - in the boot loader?
May 30 03:50:29 <mwester> NSLU2 will run either endianness.  Redboot doesn't do endianness; so the kernel is prefixed with the appropriate stuff.
May 30 03:51:05 <mwester> The Debian image uses Apex as the second-stage bootloader; apex handles endianess in that case IIRC
May 30 03:51:57 <mwester> The pre-build images that are LE include SlugOS/LE (aka "debianslug"), as well as the official Debian NSLU2 image.
May 30 03:53:09 <jamieg> Thanks, that's just the kind of info I was looking for.
May 30 06:12:55 <bad> mwester, tnx 4 u support (readup).
May 30 10:04:16 <EmuandCo> hi
May 30 10:06:27 <barnseenio> EmuandCo: !
May 30 10:11:44 <EmuandCo> ?
May 30 10:14:32 <EmuandCo> DOes anyne in here have experience with upgrading the RAM? Does it increase Speed enough to be worth the effort?
May 30 10:16:17 <EmuandCo> Can Redboot be edited to support moe RAM or do I need APEX?
May 30 10:18:16 <barnseenio> i havent, but anecdotal evidence suggests to me its not really worth it. whilst it can be physically done, it seems there are various issues accessing the memory
May 30 10:20:00 <EmuandCo> I plan to add an Apache and an SVN Server. Does this run well enough with 32 MB RAM?
May 30 10:20:16 <EmuandCo> Deunderclocking is useful, isnt it?
May 30 10:21:39 <barnseenio> apache is fine for me with some performance tweaks
May 30 10:21:50 <barnseenio> although i know many people recommend lighthttpd
May 30 10:22:02 <barnseenio> svn server runs fine for me
May 30 10:22:27 <barnseenio> many nslu2 now already come clocked
May 30 10:22:32 <barnseenio> worth just testing it first
May 30 10:23:07 <EmuandCo> Its a new one. Its not here yet, o I dont know. I just try to learn as much as possible before it arrives
May 30 10:23:55 <barnseenio> my one of 1yr old came clocked
May 30 10:24:19 <barnseenio> cat /proc/cpuinfo
May 30 10:24:27 <barnseenio> will tell you
May 30 10:24:35 <EmuandCo> OK, next question. I have basic Linux Sills, but I am mainly a WIndows User. WHich Firmware?
May 30 10:24:49 <barnseenio> debianslug every time in my opinion
May 30 10:25:09 <barnseenio> i am basic linux user, and have really enjoyed it as an operasting system
May 30 10:25:11 <barnseenio> -s
May 30 10:25:55 <barnseenio> i think the installer wasnt finished when i installed so im using the bootsrap method, but i understand standard installer is there now
May 30 10:26:43 <EmuandCo> How about this Unslung?  like the Idea of keeping he Web Based Configurator
May 30 10:27:39 <EmuandCo> *the
May 30 10:30:41 <barnseenio> why?
May 30 10:31:02 <EmuandCo> dunno. I dont like config files.... I am a WIndows Kiddie :-P
May 30 10:31:27 <barnseenio> i am basic linux user, and have really enjoyed debianslug as an operating system
May 30 10:32:48 <EmuandCo> hmm.... we'll see... Whats better in Debianslug?
May 30 10:33:46 <barnseenio> its just debian
May 30 10:35:26 <EmuandCo> Packets: 17510+, targeted for desktop machines with lots of memory
May 30 10:35:33 <EmuandCo> Memory...
May 30 10:36:01 <barnseenio> why are you asking my opinion, and then suggesting its wrong?
May 30 10:36:14 <EmuandCo> I jut want to know if thats right
May 30 10:36:24 <barnseenio> i am basic linux user, and have really enjoyed debianslug as an operating system
May 30 10:36:41 <barnseenio> i use apache/rtorrent/itunes server/mysql/php/svn
May 30 10:37:10 <EmuandCo> ok. I'll try it ;-) Especially because of "/svn"
May 30 10:37:25 <barnseenio> in my opinion, everything just works
May 30 10:40:35 <EmuandCo> I want to mirror ReactOS's SVN. This is the main reason, why I bought it
May 30 11:08:40 <eiffel> Emu|AFK: i think you can upgrade up to 64mb without using APEX
May 30 14:11:03 <xkr47> Emu|AFK, custom kernel ?
May 30 14:11:11 <xkr47> sorry eiffel*
May 30 15:46:12 * jamieg wonders if freak4u laid awake all night, "who signed my key???..."
May 30 15:46:16 <jamieg> nm
May 30 16:32:37 <NSLU2-IRC> HI, someone that can help me whit some stuff?
May 30 16:36:39 <DigiI-> Hi, is anyone here? having some problem unsling my Nslu2 :(
May 30 16:37:08 <Reedy_Boy> ~ask
May 30 16:37:09 <capbot> If you have a question, just ask, maybe someone have an answer... sometimes.
May 30 16:37:47 <DigiI-> ok, i have changed the firmware to V2.3R63-uNSLUng-6.8-beta using the instrucotions
May 30 16:38:11 <DigiI-> but i cant telnet into it to do the unsling stuff
May 30 16:38:28 <DigiI-> using root and unslung
May 30 16:39:25 <DigiI-> anyone know why?
May 30 16:40:08 <Reedy_Boy> You need to enable telent
May 30 16:40:15 <DigiI-> yea i have
May 30 16:40:21 <Reedy_Boy> if you look on the web page, there is a link saying 'manage telnet'
May 30 16:40:23 <Reedy_Boy> hmm
May 30 16:40:28 <DigiI-> yea i have
May 30 16:40:37 <DigiI-> i can connect to it using telnet
May 30 16:40:55 <DigiI-> but the password or username seems not to work on it
May 30 16:42:08 <Reedy_Boy> uNSLUng not unslung
May 30 16:42:10 <DigiI-> it just says Login Incorrect when i trying to log in
May 30 16:42:25 <DigiI-> yea but i have tryed both
May 30 16:44:02 <DigiI-> have i maybe trashed the installed firmware? but i cant understand how :S its not that hard to put it in
May 30 17:34:47 <DigiI-> anyone have a list of stuffs u can install on unslug firmware and how to use it?
May 30 17:35:56 <Pouyoux> Hello
May 30 17:36:09 <Pouyoux> I've just finished to install debian 4.0r0
May 30 17:36:20 <Pouyoux> but I can't log throught ssh
May 30 17:36:36 <Pouyoux> whatever passwords I try is rejected
May 30 17:36:49 <Pouyoux> root/root root/opeNSLUg
May 30 17:37:52 <Pouyoux> root/uNSLUng
May 30 17:43:45 <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, I think you set the password during the install process don't y ou?
May 30 17:44:11 <Pouyoux> no
May 30 17:45:06 <Pouyoux> if so I would not ask for it :)
May 30 17:45:26 <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, I'm sure that during the debian install process I set the root password.
May 30 17:45:37 <Lunar_Lamp> Sorry, I installed it about 6months ago, so my memory might be dodgy :-)
May 30 17:45:47 <Lunar_Lamp> Unfortunately I don't have a slug nearby either :-/
May 30 17:48:35 <Pouyoux> I think that I can edit /etc/passwd in connecting usb hard drive ton another computer
May 30 17:48:52 <Pouyoux> but it's quite a pain
May 30 17:49:43 <Lunar_Lamp> That would work I guess :-/
May 30 17:50:36 <methhhp> you have to been asked during install for a password
May 30 18:06:23 <Pouyoux> I know
May 30 18:06:42 <Pouyoux> but I did some manual things during installation
May 30 18:06:52 <Pouyoux> and it didn't ask for root password
May 30 18:31:09 <Reedy_Boy> Lunar_Lamp, you are right, i had to on both of my installs
May 30 18:51:30 <Pouyoux> ok by editing by hand the shadow password it works
May 30 18:51:32 <Pouyoux> :/
May 30 19:41:06 <Labyr|nth_> hi, i know that nobody really talks much here, but it's worth a shot: i can't seem to telnet into my slug.  Through my macbook, I've tried to create a local network (192.168.0.xxx) and I keep getting a timeout.  over my routed network I can't seem to connect to it... and I've also tried to resolve 192.168.0.1 to the slug's mac address.
May 30 19:41:22 <Labyr|nth_> furthermore, I can't do any of the instructions laid out for xp either
May 30 19:41:43 <Labyr|nth_> that is to say I also have an xp machine running alongside my macbook
May 30 19:42:07 <Labyr|nth_> pinging doesn't get me anywhere either
May 30 19:42:35 <Labyr|nth_> the slug is up and running.  with the linksys firmware, I'm able to transfer to it and connect to the web interface
May 30 19:43:47 <Reedy_Boy> Is telnet enabled?
May 30 19:44:04 <DigiI-> exuce me, but do i hafto Disable FTP in web interface on unslug to get an other ftp server to work?
May 30 19:44:28 <Reedy_Boy> Possibly, i'd expect it to be using port 21
May 30 19:44:38 <Reedy_Boy> If your not using it, i'd disable it anyway
May 30 19:44:44 <DigiI-> yea it does
May 30 19:44:46 <DigiI-> ok
May 30 19:45:52 <DigiI-> hope i get something to work, haft been trying to get Proftpd to work
May 30 19:46:42 <McMadd> Labyr|nth: it's weird that you can connect to the webinterface but can't ping
May 30 19:47:13 <McMadd> How do you connect to the webinterface?
May 30 19:48:38 <DigiI-> can someone tell me how after i downloades the proftpd to mu slug i get it to work, coz right not it does nåt
May 30 19:49:46 <Reedy_Boy> ipkg install proftpd - is that what you did?
May 30 19:50:26 <DigiI-> yea
May 30 19:51:24 <Labyr|nt> sorry... didn't think through the fact that I was fugging around with my router
May 30 19:51:58 <Labyr|nt> i dont think telnet is enabled now that you say it... I've been reading the RedBoot how to... there doesn't seem to be any mention of how to enable telnet per se
May 30 19:52:59 <DigiI-> Reedy_Boy have any pointers oor wnythoing what to do next after the ipkg install ?
May 30 19:53:00 <Reedy_Boy> You dont enable telnet in redboot
May 30 19:53:13 <Reedy_Boy> You do it through the web interface for unslung
May 30 19:53:22 <Reedy_Boy> DigiI-, errm, try starting it?
May 30 19:53:37 <Reedy_Boy> which proftpd - will tell you where it is
May 30 19:53:41 <Reedy_Boy> ./path/proftpd
May 30 19:54:52 <DigiI-> yea
May 30 19:55:17 <Labyr|nt> okay... thanks Reedy_Boy
May 30 19:55:25 <Labyr|nt> I'll check that out frst
May 30 19:55:25 <DigiI-> but /proftpd/ is in /opt/doc/proftpd
May 30 19:55:33 <DigiI-> what then? :S :(
May 30 19:55:34 <McMadd> DigiI-: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Proftpd
May 30 19:55:38 <Reedy_Boy> DigiI-, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Proftpd?from=Unslung.Proftpd
May 30 19:55:41 <Reedy_Boy> Yeah
May 30 19:58:31 <capbot> caplink811 :)
May 30 19:59:57 <DigiI-> can u Uninstall a package u prior installed whit ipkg install -?
May 30 20:00:42 <Reedy_Boy> ipkg remove package
May 30 20:01:11 <DigiI-> thx
May 30 20:04:09 <Labyr|nth> okay... perhaps a dumb question, but I wanna play it safe.  Is there a way to use the unslung web interface without flashing the firmware with unslung 6.x  The docs are saying to test telnet before flashing, but how can I test telnet if I can't enable it from stock
May 30 20:04:23 <Labyr|nth> I guess what I'm really asking is how do I enable telnet from stock?
May 30 20:05:16 <Labyr|nth> nm... i just found it - don't you just hate that... sorry for wasting characters
May 30 20:06:15 <Reedy_Boy> lol
May 30 20:11:23 <Labyr|nth> it appears i can telnet into port 80, but i can't seem to enable telnet on 23
May 30 20:11:44 <Reedy_Boy> telnet onto port 80 :S
May 30 20:12:13 <Labyr|nth> it kicks me out right away
May 30 20:12:36 <Labyr|nth> it says: Your request has bad syntax or is inherently impossible to satisfy.
May 30 20:12:36 <Labyr|nth>  with a bunch of html code
May 30 20:14:33 * Labyr|nth thinks my slug sounds like my girlfriend :P
May 30 20:15:07 <Reedy_Boy> lol
May 30 20:15:18 <Reedy_Boy> never of a slug doing that before
May 30 20:15:36 <Labyr|nth> damn.... why do i always get the funky problems
May 30 20:15:52 <Reedy_Boy> lol
May 30 20:15:56 <Reedy_Boy> its really random
May 30 20:16:45 <Labyr|nth> so it seems... i don't really want to risk flashing the slug with unslug without making sure telnet is working on 23.... but i feel up against the wall
May 30 20:16:55 <Reedy_Boy> lol
May 30 20:17:10 <Labyr|nth> this is what i get for taking on linux with very little linux background
May 30 20:17:12 <Reedy_Boy> i believe, they mean, telnet working to redboot/upgrade mode thingy
May 30 20:17:14 * Labyr|nth kicks self in shins
May 30 20:17:22 <Reedy_Boy> as on the default firmware there is no telnet
May 30 20:17:29 <Labyr|nth> right
May 30 20:17:54 <Labyr|nth> so then you're saying i don't really need to worry about it then?
May 30 20:17:56 <Reedy_Boy> Using linksys' 'erase all tool' can do more dmage to your slug
May 30 20:18:13 <Reedy_Boy> ie bye bye slug
May 30 20:18:21 <Reedy_Boy> if you have a bad flash, there are numerous ways to sort it
May 30 20:18:28 <Labyr|nth> ok
May 30 20:21:20 <DigiI-> is it hard to install apache on the slug? think i need to give up right from the start? :P
May 30 20:21:56 <Reedy_Boy> Depends
May 30 20:22:05 <Reedy_Boy> Debian its easy - self configuring, setting up and running
May 30 20:22:18 <Reedy_Boy> Apache is quite heavy wait
May 30 20:22:42 <DigiI-> is there any other easy install that manage to have php installed too?
May 30 20:22:50 <Reedy_Boy> believe so
May 30 20:23:01 <DigiI-> know any?
May 30 20:23:19 <mwester> There is no need to worry about the telnet *prior* to flashing the Unslung firmware, as it turns out that there are alternative ways to recover from a bad flash that don't involve telnet.
May 30 20:23:36 <mwester> So just flash Unslung, and then proceed with the README instructions.
May 30 20:23:37 <Reedy_Boy> Use something other than unslung ;)
May 30 20:23:50 <Reedy_Boy> what mwester said Labyr|nth ;)
May 30 20:24:06 <DigiI-> hehe yea, but i have no ide how to install debian
May 30 20:24:11 <DigiI-> is seems hard :/
May 30 20:24:17 <Reedy_Boy> http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/
May 30 20:24:21 <Reedy_Boy> Quite easy IMHO
May 30 20:24:24 <Labyr|nth> mwester & Reedy_Boy, I was just reading about those... 
May 30 20:24:24 <Reedy_Boy> its got its own installer
May 30 20:24:30 * Labyr|nth is feeling more confident
May 30 20:24:46 <DigiI-> but its not like installing unslung is it?
May 30 20:24:58 <mwester> The big issue with apache and php on the NSLU2 is that there's only 32MB of memory.  Many people are using alternate webservers that aren't so heavyweight.
May 30 20:24:59 <Reedy_Boy> its a bit more difficult, but not like putting say gentoo on it
May 30 20:25:30 <mwester> Apache/PHP on Debian, Gentoo, Unslung, Openslug -- all the same, will run out of memory and perform poorly for most people.
May 30 20:25:56 <DigiI-> ok, but there is good alternativ?
May 30 20:26:13 <mwester> Dunno about the PHP, but I hear good things about lighttpd
May 30 20:26:25 <mwester> Also some use Cherokee
May 30 20:26:55 <DigiI-> ook =)
May 30 20:27:18 <DigiI-> is it better to run debian then unslung? whats the pro/con?
May 30 20:27:57 <mwester> Unslung gives you the ability to run Linux software on the Linksys firmware, so
May 30 20:28:10 <mwester> it's actually not very much like linux in many ways.
May 30 20:28:36 <mwester> The advantage is that Unslung is compatible with Linksys, the disadvantage is that it has all of Linksys' limitations and funky administration
May 30 20:29:19 <mwester> OpenSlug (aka SlugOS) is a standard, debian-like, Linux distribution for the NSLU2.  Looks, feels, tastes like Linux.
May 30 20:29:52 <mwester> Debian is the full, real deal -- the real desktop Linux distribution, that runs on the NSLU2.  Pretty amazing when you consider that.
May 30 20:29:57 <mwester> So,
May 30 20:30:17 <mwester> if you just want to "add a little bit" to your Linksys device, but you are happy with it otherwise, run Unslung.
May 30 20:30:28 <DigiI-> yea
May 30 20:30:39 <DigiI-> just want a webserver and a ftp
May 30 20:31:01 <mwester> If you want to run a Linux distribution, and you have a Linux manual you wish to follow, Unslung is *NOT* for you -- instead consider SlugOS (OpenSlug) or Debian.
May 30 20:31:26 <mwester> Digil-: in addition to the Linksys, or instead of the Linksys firmware features?
May 30 20:31:43 <Labyr|nth> i'm doing music server, and hopefully vpn
May 30 20:31:51 <DigiI-> not that good at linux, i think i will crash and burn if i try to install debian
May 30 20:33:09 <DigiI-> no i dont really need things like vpn and so on, just ftp server whit clients and a web featur so i can show pic and so on on the internet
May 30 20:33:49 <Labyr|nth> truth be told, ftp will likely suit my needs as well
May 30 20:34:07 * Labyr|nth is flashing
May 30 20:48:59 <DigiI-> nomeata
May 30 20:49:01 <DigiI-> ooj
May 30 20:49:02 <DigiI-> sorry
May 30 20:49:27 <DigiI-> mwester can u install debian if u allready have unslug installed?
May 30 20:49:38 <DigiI-> or u hafto do something first?
May 30 20:50:33 <mwester> Sure.  Just read the Debian install instructions carefully.  Also note that by default, Debian will take the same network configuration as Linksys/Unslung, so set up your network configuration correctly with Linskys or Unslung firmware *before* you install Debian.
May 30 20:51:51 <DigiI-> u mean like if i checked in the box Obtain ipo adress automatically ( DHCP client) it will be so in debian to?
May 30 20:52:13 <siffk> hi
May 30 20:52:16 <siffk> anyone here?
May 30 20:52:20 <siffk> I have a question
May 30 20:52:35 <siffk> is linksus nslu the best or are there others?
May 30 20:52:46 <siffk> I am looking at synology and so on
May 30 20:52:49 <siffk> but not sure
May 30 20:54:04 <siffk> this one looks more moder
May 30 20:54:06 <siffk> modern
May 30 20:54:12 <siffk> than the linksys
May 30 20:54:16 <capbot> caplink811 :)
May 30 20:58:18 <siffk> or the ASUS
May 30 20:58:25 <siffk> or D-link
May 30 20:58:43 <siffk> the linksys lacks new capabilities
May 30 20:59:15 <siffk> what's caplink?
May 30 20:59:32 <mwester> Every one of them has it's own set of strengths and weaknesses.  Your judgement of the "best" depends on what you intend to do with it, and what is important to you.
May 30 21:01:31 <siffk> oh man
May 30 21:01:50 <siffk> download onto a hdd and connect to internet wirelessly.. that's the priority
May 30 21:01:59 <siffk> then i will play with asterisk and other stuff
May 30 21:02:03 <siffk> like no-ip server
May 30 21:02:17 <siffk> I don't know implement kewl projects
May 30 21:03:50 <mwester> Do you intend on building the firmware to install yourself, or are you looking to replace the firmware with a firmware image released by the project team?
May 30 21:04:27 <siffk> I hate m$$ loosers that give reviews and their shitty opion on newegg
May 30 21:05:10 <siffk> building myself?
May 30 21:05:23 <siffk> yeah definately I wanna use the community based firmware
May 30 21:06:36 <mwester> You'll find that your choices are described by the "which firmware" page on the wiki -- that lists the released firmware and should help select one that works for you.  From that you can choose what hardware it supports.
May 30 21:07:48 <mwester> There are a lot of devices similar to the NSLU2 out there, but not all of them can run released firmware at this time.  Some support only add-on (optware) to the vendor's firmware, others require
May 30 21:08:10 <mwester> that you build your own, i.e. the firmware image is not released or finished for that device.
May 30 21:09:17 <mwester> Also, if you have previous experience with Linux, you might find that certain firmware will be more attractive than others.  Debian users prefer the NSLU2, as it can run the full Debian distro.
May 30 21:09:29 <siffk> ah compile it into the CPU specs?
May 30 21:09:39 <siffk> awsome
May 30 21:09:42 <siffk> can run vesa?
May 30 21:09:55 <siffk> D-link and Asus can't run full OS?
May 30 21:10:16 <siffk> oh man I am going to die now!!!
May 30 21:14:51 <siffk> ok            D-link looks appealing
May 30 21:15:06 <siffk> you can also run the whole OS
May 30 21:17:52 <siffk> can I attach a wireless to a linksys?
May 30 21:18:15 <siffk> turn it into a Access Point?
May 30 21:19:25 <siffk> please answer
May 30 21:19:43 <siffk> oh another thing. What kinda storage do need SATA or ide?
May 30 21:25:56 <siffk> hello?
May 30 21:26:04 <siffk> any one around?
May 30 21:26:30 <Reedy_Boy> ~asl
May 30 21:26:32 <Reedy_Boy> ~ask
May 30 21:28:15 <caplink811_log> ~ask
May 30 21:28:15 <capbot> from memory, ask is Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
May 30 21:28:27 <caplink811_log> ;)
May 30 21:28:38 <Reedy_Boy> caplink811_log, :)
May 30 21:28:47 <kapookee> show off  ;-)
May 30 21:30:43 <siffk> I did
May 30 21:30:56 <siffk> can I attach a wireless USB to a linksys?
May 30 21:31:21 <siffk> am I better of with D-link with WIFI included or with Linksys +USB wireless?
May 30 21:31:58 <Reedy_Boy> You can attach a wireless usb stick
May 30 21:32:02 <Reedy_Boy> not all work though
May 30 21:32:19 <caplink811_log> you could read some articles, which covers this topic at the wiki, maybe that this helps on your decision
May 30 21:32:37 <Reedy_Boy> yeah, the wiki usually has most thigns
May 30 21:33:15 <siffk> can I add a SATA drive?
May 30 21:33:23 <siffk> let's say 500GB?
May 30 21:34:16 <caplink811_log> you could add a usb drive, maybe that the sata/usb chipset works with the nslu2
May 30 21:34:55 <siffk> ok
May 30 21:35:10 <siffk> wow, there are awsome projects
May 30 21:35:27 <siffk> this is like one of the coolest stuff I've seen around linux
May 30 21:36:13 <caplink811_log> see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/ListsOfDriveEnclosuresChipsetsAndDriveCombinationsThatWork aout your sata/usb question
May 30 21:36:47 <caplink811_log> s/aout/about
May 30 21:37:54 <Reedy_Boy> caplink811_log, whats capbot coded in/with?
May 30 21:38:45 <caplink811_log> google blootbot, that is his realname, it a perl programed bot
May 30 21:39:30 <siffk> thanks
May 30 21:40:11 <Reedy_Boy> cheers
May 30 21:47:16 <siffk> oh man the list is huge
May 30 21:51:00 <siffk> seagate or western digital?
May 30 21:51:54 <Reedy_Boy> seagate = 5 year warranty
May 30 21:51:55 <Reedy_Boy> xD
May 30 21:52:00 <siffk> ok
May 30 21:52:10 <siffk> in what scenarion would I use NAS?
May 30 21:52:15 <Reedy_Boy> WD are good, but the 5 year warranty tends to sway me
May 30 21:52:24 <Reedy_Boy> If you dont want a full size computer for hosting files
May 30 21:52:33 <Reedy_Boy> If you need files shared between multiple computers
May 30 21:52:45 <siffk> do I need more than one drive for NAS or just one works?
May 30 21:52:59 <Reedy_Boy> Its up to you
May 30 21:53:03 <Reedy_Boy> If you just want storage
May 30 21:53:18 <Reedy_Boy> or you want redundant storage - something with Raid 1 (mirroring) or something
May 30 21:53:28 <Reedy_Boy> Or if you want loads of space
May 30 21:54:28 <siffk> aha
May 30 21:54:54 <siffk> what if in RAID both main and back fail? Then you'd need RAID RAID LOL
May 30 21:55:08 <siffk> *backup
May 30 21:56:32 <Reedy_Boy> Raid 5
May 30 21:56:36 <Reedy_Boy> or something
May 30 21:56:39 <siffk> w00t
May 30 21:56:41 <caplink811_log> raid1 is funny, if data security is a demand, then you should use real "nas" devices
May 30 21:56:43 <Reedy_Boy> its highly unlikely both would just go
May 30 21:56:58 <Reedy_Boy> but if one goes, it give you time to save the data
May 30 21:58:25 <caplink811_log> unlike to the brake bulbs in my car, they goes away at the same time :(
May 30 21:59:23 <siffk> caplink811_log, RAID 5 your car bulbs :D
May 30 22:05:03 <Reedy_Boy> :(
May 30 22:06:34 <caplink811_log> maybe a goog idea, 3 pairs, and a 4th spare set
May 30 22:07:14 <caplink811_log> but seriously, if you need safety for your data, use raid5 and a (at least) daily tape backup
May 30 22:39:03 <Labyr|nth> okay... it seems that everything is working well... now i've just got to get mt-daapd up and running properly
May 30 23:23:48 <siffk> I lost my train of though
May 30 23:23:54 <siffk> linksys or D-link DSM-G600 ?
May 31 00:04:40 <siffk> how do I ensure I have revision A D-link?
May 31 00:08:26 <siffk> oh man
May 31 00:08:34 <siffk> now i am not sure linksys
May 31 00:08:37 <siffk> or d-link
May 31 00:08:59 <siffk> well linksys I can hack it to 240MB ram
May 31 00:10:40 <siffk> 512MB!!
May 31 00:14:42 <siffk> hello anyone??
May 31 00:14:51 <siffk> wtf anyone?
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