**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 07 02:59:56 2007
Jul 07 07:17:40 <NSLU2-IRC> hi all!
Jul 07 08:02:54 <NSLU2-IRC> anyone here? :O
Jul 07 08:47:34 <DrJ_> hey
Jul 07 09:08:28 <NSLU2-IRC> hi!
Jul 07 09:08:35 <NSLU2-IRC> the community is alive!!
Jul 07 09:08:45 <NSLU2-IRC> my slug isnt though ><
Jul 07 09:09:15 <DrJ_> :(
Jul 07 09:09:18 <DrJ_> what's wrong with it
Jul 07 09:09:24 <NSLU2-IRC> sigh i am not sure
Jul 07 09:09:30 <NSLU2-IRC> i bought it about 2 days ago
Jul 07 09:09:34 <DrJ_> does it turn on
Jul 07 09:09:42 <NSLU2-IRC> it turns on and it still boots
Jul 07 09:09:52 <NSLU2-IRC> but everytime i try to flash it
Jul 07 09:10:02 <NSLU2-IRC> it just goes "Error: bad file name or format"
Jul 07 09:10:07 <DrJ_> okay
Jul 07 09:10:14 <DrJ_> we can fix
Jul 07 09:10:18 <NSLU2-IRC> :O
Jul 07 09:10:22 <NSLU2-IRC> really? :O
Jul 07 09:10:25 <DrJ_> yep
Jul 07 09:10:27 <DrJ_> one sec
Jul 07 09:10:27 <NSLU2-IRC> thx!
Jul 07 09:10:45 <NSLU2-IRC> sure, take ur time ^^
Jul 07 09:11:32 <DrJ_> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/SercommFirmwareUpdater
Jul 07 09:11:35 <DrJ_> download that
Jul 07 09:11:37 <DrJ_> and unzip it
Jul 07 09:11:40 <NSLU2-IRC> yep, just dide
Jul 07 09:12:05 <DrJ_> k
Jul 07 09:12:13 <DrJ_> now
Jul 07 09:12:18 <NSLU2-IRC> i got the http://saytec.com/board/download_download.php?n=319&c=1 one
Jul 07 09:12:23 <DrJ_> ya
Jul 07 09:12:24 <DrJ_> same thing
Jul 07 09:12:29 <NSLU2-IRC> cool
Jul 07 09:12:33 <DrJ_> do you know how to get the slug into upgrade mode?
Jul 07 09:12:51 <NSLU2-IRC> hold the reset for 10 sec while restarting?
Jul 07 09:12:57 <DrJ_> no
Jul 07 09:13:08 <NSLU2-IRC> oh
Jul 07 09:13:16 <DrJ_> turn the nslu2 off
Jul 07 09:13:32 <NSLU2-IRC> done
Jul 07 09:13:43 <DrJ_> then press and hold the reset button with a paperclip or something
Jul 07 09:13:48 <DrJ_> turn the device on
Jul 07 09:13:51 <DrJ_> watch the main power light
Jul 07 09:13:55 <DrJ_> once it turns red
Jul 07 09:14:01 <DrJ_> release the reset button
Jul 07 09:14:04 <rwhitby> once it changes at all
Jul 07 09:14:13 <rwhitby> (some don't go to red apparently)
Jul 07 09:14:27 <DrJ_> I have done this to over 30 slugs
Jul 07 09:14:31 <DrJ_> yet to have one not go red
Jul 07 09:14:54 <DrJ_> I upgrade all of them this way
Jul 07 09:14:57 <rwhitby> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheResetButtonToEnterUpgradeMode
Jul 07 09:15:12 <rwhitby> DrJ_: same here, but some people have reported an orange rather than a red on the lists.
Jul 07 09:15:32 <DrJ_> anyway
Jul 07 09:15:35 <DrJ_> it should go red
Jul 07 09:15:36 <NSLU2-IRC> let me get a paperclip... staples are bending
Jul 07 09:15:39 <rwhitby> anyway, saying "let it go as soon as the led changes colour" is safest.
Jul 07 09:16:17 <DrJ_> anyways NSLU2-IRC, once you get it in upgrade mode (which you will know when it is flashing red/orange)
Jul 07 09:16:24 <NSLU2-IRC> ok cool, change to red
Jul 07 09:16:32 <DrJ_> is it flashing red now?
Jul 07 09:16:36 <NSLU2-IRC> release, and it change to blinking yellow
Jul 07 09:16:40 <DrJ_> ah
Jul 07 09:16:40 <DrJ_> k
Jul 07 09:16:46 <NSLU2-IRC> no good?
Jul 07 09:16:48 <DrJ_> hmm...
Jul 07 09:16:54 <DrJ_> I think its still booting
Jul 07 09:17:01 <DrJ_> did you release it while it was still red?
Jul 07 09:17:05 <DrJ_> have to be quick
Jul 07 09:17:15 <NSLU2-IRC> let me do it again
Jul 07 09:18:13 <NSLU2-IRC> ok flashing red and green
Jul 07 09:18:17 <DrJ_> yea
Jul 07 09:18:21 <NSLU2-IRC> sorry for my butter fingers
Jul 07 09:18:24 <DrJ_> now open the sercomm utility
Jul 07 09:18:34 <NSLU2-IRC> opened
Jul 07 09:18:38 <DrJ_> select the right NIC
Jul 07 09:18:41 <DrJ_> then click browse
Jul 07 09:18:54 <NSLU2-IRC> done
Jul 07 09:19:06 <DrJ_> you should get a list after that with one listed
Jul 07 09:19:12 <NSLU2-IRC> 1 device, 0014BF6D9475
Jul 07 09:19:16 <DrJ_> select that
Jul 07 09:19:20 <NSLU2-IRC> ok
Jul 07 09:19:37 <DrJ_> right now I can't form a mental picture....
Jul 07 09:19:44 <NSLU2-IRC> there is a files button
Jul 07 09:19:48 <DrJ_> there's a button for files
Jul 07 09:19:51 <DrJ_> yea
Jul 07 09:19:53 <DrJ_> select that
Jul 07 09:20:05 <DrJ_> then browse to the folder that has your firmware
Jul 07 09:20:08 <NSLU2-IRC> yep, I am attempting to unslung btw
Jul 07 09:20:10 <DrJ_> select the .bin file
Jul 07 09:20:15 <DrJ_> cool
Jul 07 09:20:19 <NSLU2-IRC> yep got it
Jul 07 09:20:26 <NSLU2-IRC> click upgrade?
Jul 07 09:20:28 <DrJ_> its pretty self explainitory now
Jul 07 09:20:29 <DrJ_> yea
Jul 07 09:20:35 <NSLU2-IRC> thx
Jul 07 09:20:45 <NSLU2-IRC> i had major issues with unslung :'(
Jul 07 09:20:51 <DrJ_> ?
Jul 07 09:21:01 <NSLU2-IRC> like... drives had problem formating, and drive disappears
Jul 07 09:21:12 <NSLU2-IRC> its a single stick of usb 1 gig
Jul 07 09:21:45 <DrJ_> I've never unslinged to a flash drive...but I think its a little more complicated with those
Jul 07 09:21:58 <NSLU2-IRC> yea its crazy :'(
Jul 07 09:22:10 <NSLU2-IRC> i kinda want my slug to be a web server
Jul 07 09:22:26 <NSLU2-IRC> to host a second thttpd server
Jul 07 09:22:46 <DrJ_> :)
Jul 07 09:23:01 <DrJ_> do you not have an USB hard drive?
Jul 07 09:23:06 <NSLU2-IRC> hopfully i will get it working ^^ heard so many wonderful thing about the slug
Jul 07 09:23:21 <NSLU2-IRC> i have but its not mine XD
Jul 07 09:23:27 <DrJ_> you should get one
Jul 07 09:23:33 <NSLU2-IRC> much easier?
Jul 07 09:23:37 <DrJ_> well that
Jul 07 09:23:47 <DrJ_> and how long do you think a gig is going to last?
Jul 07 09:24:10 <NSLU2-IRC> well for a simple site for my photos ^^
Jul 07 09:24:20 <NSLU2-IRC> i am from australia btw :D
Jul 07 09:24:26 <DrJ_> you'll use it for more than that
Jul 07 09:24:36 <NSLU2-IRC> yea i am planning to :D
Jul 07 09:24:51 <NSLU2-IRC> i just purchased this slug, 2 hrs after hearing about it ^^
Jul 07 09:24:56 <DrJ_> :)
Jul 07 09:25:20 <NSLU2-IRC> it says update successful!
Jul 07 09:25:25 <DrJ_> :)
Jul 07 09:25:36 <NSLU2-IRC> should i reboot?
Jul 07 09:25:43 <DrJ_> it will reboot for you
Jul 07 09:25:47 <NSLU2-IRC> :O
Jul 07 09:25:59 <DrJ_> probably is already doing so
Jul 07 09:26:06 <NSLU2-IRC> i think so ^^
Jul 07 09:26:10 <NSLU2-IRC> *beep!!!!
Jul 07 09:26:14 <DrJ_> :)
Jul 07 09:26:33 <NSLU2-IRC> thx so much!!!
Jul 07 09:26:36 <DrJ_> np
Jul 07 09:26:44 <NSLU2-IRC> what do u use ur slug for? :d
Jul 07 09:26:46 <NSLU2-IRC> :D
Jul 07 09:27:16 <DrJ_> web server, file server, print server, and I run two IRC bots written in php on it
Jul 07 09:27:20 <DrJ_> those are the main things
Jul 07 09:27:42 <NSLU2-IRC> its confusing, because the label says USB drive goes to D2, and the unslung says it should go to D1
Jul 07 09:27:51 <NSLU2-IRC> nice
Jul 07 09:27:56 <DrJ_> I have one bot running on my slug that feeds a Chicago Cubs (baseball team) live play by play to a channel for the cubs on another network
Jul 07 09:28:14 <NSLU2-IRC> :O
Jul 07 09:28:23 <NSLU2-IRC> uve got  a slug farm :O
Jul 07 09:28:31 <DrJ_> no I only have one
Jul 07 09:28:34 <DrJ_> I sell them
Jul 07 09:28:36 <DrJ_> for profit
Jul 07 09:28:39 <NSLU2-IRC> :O
Jul 07 09:28:44 <NSLU2-IRC> lol
Jul 07 09:28:55 <NSLU2-IRC> i bought mine for 140 dollar Aus ><
Jul 07 09:28:56 <DrJ_> I only have one I use that is
Jul 07 09:29:11 <rwhitby> DrJ_: got a web presence for your shop?
Jul 07 09:29:12 <DrJ_> I buy them for $30-$45 USD
Jul 07 09:29:19 <DrJ_> sell them for $65
Jul 07 09:29:28 <NSLU2-IRC> ><
Jul 07 09:29:32 <DrJ_> I sell them on ebay as I get them rwhitby
Jul 07 09:29:42 <NSLU2-IRC> thats like....80 bucks.... aus..... :'(
Jul 07 09:29:57 <rwhitby> NSLU2-IRC: yeah, we get screwed in .au
Jul 07 09:30:16 <NSLU2-IRC> :'(  mine is an expensive..... slug....
Jul 07 09:30:19 <DrJ_> I've sold $1200 in the last couple months in slugs
Jul 07 09:30:29 <DrJ_> USD
Jul 07 09:30:33 <NSLU2-IRC> nice
Jul 07 09:31:07 <DrJ_> I sell them with hard drives sometimes also
Jul 07 09:31:11 <DrJ_> all setup and everything
Jul 07 09:31:12 <NSLU2-IRC> man this usb stick unslung thing is making me tear my hair out
Jul 07 09:31:42 <NSLU2-IRC> lol for me i want to explore the slug world :D
Jul 07 09:31:59 <NSLU2-IRC> from newbie to expert in 50 years ^^
Jul 07 09:33:52 <DrJ_> if you can afford it though
Jul 07 09:33:55 <DrJ_> you should get a hard drive
Jul 07 09:34:05 <NSLU2-IRC> yep, that is definitely coming :D
Jul 07 09:34:16 <DrJ_> if you have any unused computers
Jul 07 09:34:25 <NSLU2-IRC> one step at a time though, budget is tight right now, paying off car XD
Jul 07 09:34:25 <DrJ_> you can take the hd out and buy an enclosure for like $10 bucks
Jul 07 09:34:34 <NSLU2-IRC> will it overheat?
Jul 07 09:34:40 <DrJ_> nah
Jul 07 09:34:51 <DrJ_> all external hard drives are just drives inside enclosures
Jul 07 09:35:21 <NSLU2-IRC> my slug has just gone nuts.... 1 usb stick, web page report both usb ports as unformated
Jul 07 09:35:46 <DrJ_> have you read the wiki for unslinging to a flash drive NSLU2-IRC?
Jul 07 09:36:46 <NSLU2-IRC> yea
Jul 07 09:36:49 <NSLU2-IRC> i think so
Jul 07 09:36:51 <DrJ_> rwhitby: I do not currently have a web presence (for nslu2 selling that is) but will soon...http://ebay.jwjkp.com/   .... nothing there yet though
Jul 07 09:37:23 <NSLU2-IRC> a friend might be interested when u have established ur shop :D
Jul 07 09:37:38 <rwhitby> DrJ_: if you're providing a pre-installed service for nslu2-linux firmware, then we'd be happy to put a link on the wiki
Jul 07 09:38:39 <DrJ_> cool
Jul 07 09:38:56 <DrJ_> as of right now though I have no link to provide
Jul 07 09:41:08 <NSLU2-IRC> brb guys, dinner time :D  thx for the help!!!
Jul 07 09:41:17 <DrJ_> Although I maybe running myself right out of that arena
Jul 07 09:41:22 <NSLU2-IRC> :|
Jul 07 09:41:35 <NSLU2-IRC> how come?
Jul 07 09:42:14 <DrJ_> developing an application that will automate that will automate the entire process
Jul 07 09:42:28 <NSLU2-IRC> lol
Jul 07 09:42:30 <NSLU2-IRC> true
Jul 07 09:42:31 <DrJ_> more for my use
Jul 07 09:43:33 <NSLU2-IRC> lol
Jul 07 09:44:12 <DrJ_> most of the nslu2's though that I sell do not have unslung on them
Jul 07 09:44:51 <NSLU2-IRC> debian?
Jul 07 09:44:55 <DrJ_> linksys
Jul 07 09:45:02 <NSLU2-IRC> oh :O
Jul 07 09:45:10 <NSLU2-IRC> so ppl just want unmodded linksys
Jul 07 09:45:28 <DrJ_> well I sell on eBay NSLU2-IRC
Jul 07 09:45:39 <DrJ_> most people that run across my listings have no clue what unslung is
Jul 07 09:46:32 <NSLU2-IRC> ic ic
Jul 07 09:47:00 <DrJ_> they buy them because its cheaper than retail
Jul 07 09:47:04 <NSLU2-IRC> my nick make me sound extremely noobie..... fitting i guess....
Jul 07 09:47:19 <DrJ_> NSLU2-IRC, do you have a USB printer?
Jul 07 09:47:25 <NSLU2-IRC> yep D
Jul 07 09:47:26 <NSLU2-IRC> :D
Jul 07 09:47:35 <DrJ_> you should consider print server then :)
Jul 07 09:47:49 <NSLU2-IRC> lol baby step DrJ_ :D
Jul 07 09:47:55 <DrJ_> yea, true
Jul 07 09:48:16 * DrJ_ should give you his IPKG frontend he is developing
Jul 07 09:48:25 <DrJ_> its not completed though
Jul 07 09:48:47 <NSLU2-IRC> lol
Jul 07 09:48:55 <DrJ_> http://ww2.jwjkp.com/ipkg/
Jul 07 09:48:57 <NSLU2-IRC> no no, i dont wanna steal ur work XD
Jul 07 09:50:46 <DrJ_> steal my work? 
Jul 07 09:51:13 <NSLU2-IRC> as in take ur script and use it XD
Jul 07 09:51:20 <DrJ_> that's ummm
Jul 07 09:51:23 <DrJ_> what I'm creating it for
Jul 07 09:51:36 <NSLU2-IRC> i thought u say its for ur use?
Jul 07 09:51:56 <DrJ_> no
Jul 07 09:51:59 <DrJ_> this is something different
Jul 07 09:52:05 <DrJ_> do you know what ipkg is yet?
Jul 07 09:52:23 <NSLU2-IRC> the package thing?
Jul 07 09:52:26 <DrJ_> yea
Jul 07 09:52:31 <DrJ_> this is a web front end
Jul 07 09:52:33 <DrJ_> written in php
Jul 07 09:52:40 <DrJ_> that you can put on your nslu2's web server
Jul 07 09:52:54 <DrJ_> from it
Jul 07 09:53:01 <DrJ_> you can browse all packages
Jul 07 09:53:05 <DrJ_> get information about them
Jul 07 09:53:07 <DrJ_> install them
Jul 07 09:53:10 <DrJ_> remove them
Jul 07 09:53:15 <NSLU2-IRC> :O
Jul 07 09:53:15 <DrJ_> view all installed apps
Jul 07 09:53:23 <DrJ_> all in a graphical enviroment
Jul 07 09:53:37 <NSLU2-IRC> i think i was in my dead slug situation because of installing nano :|
Jul 07 09:55:29 <NSLU2-IRC> must go dinner ^^  starved half to death :D
Jul 07 09:55:37 <NSLU2-IRC> thx again DrJ :D will be back later :D
Jul 07 10:02:35 <DrJ_> learn to eat at your computer NSLU2-IRC
Jul 07 11:42:16 <NSLU2-IRC> sorry drj, its a family thing
Jul 07 11:42:25 <NSLU2-IRC> always have dinner as a family ^^
Jul 07 22:48:06 <limbus> hello all
Jul 07 22:48:42 <limbus> I am about to install unslung to my nslu2
Jul 07 22:48:46 <limbus> and got a few remaining questions
Jul 07 22:49:01 <limbus> (after reading Readme, wiki and skimming the faq)
Jul 07 22:49:26 <limbus> 1) can I unslung to a (small) flash drive and upgrade to a bigger flashdriver afterwards ?
Jul 07 22:49:56 <limbus> 2) is a 32MB flashdrive big enough to unslung to and upgrade afterwards?
Jul 07 22:51:58 <DrJ_> if you upgrade to a bigger flash drive
Jul 07 22:52:08 <DrJ_> you must make sure it has the same file system and just copy all the files over
Jul 07 22:52:14 <DrJ_> I'd do that with a PC, not the nslu2
Jul 07 22:52:19 <limbus> okay
Jul 07 22:52:28 <limbus> I expected that, thanks
Jul 07 22:52:32 <DrJ_> 2nd
Jul 07 22:52:41 <DrJ_> where in the world did you find a 32MB flash drive?
Jul 07 22:52:49 <limbus> im my drawer...
Jul 07 22:52:51 <DrJ_> those haven't been around since the 1700's
Jul 07 22:52:54 <limbus> I'm old :D
Jul 07 22:53:06 <DrJ_> I'd get a bigger
Jul 07 22:53:07 <DrJ_> one
Jul 07 22:53:09 <DrJ_> go to walmart
Jul 07 22:53:13 <DrJ_> 1GB $10
Jul 07 22:53:16 <DrJ_> 2GB $20
Jul 07 22:53:19 <DrJ_> 4GB $25
Jul 07 22:53:40 <limbus> it's late here around, and the fact that I am ill, bound to my home is a unique chance to finally install unslung
Jul 07 22:54:06 <limbus> I was hoping to find a use for this 32MB thing
Jul 07 22:54:10 <limbus> anyway...
Jul 07 22:54:30 <limbus> Readme says I should have at least 256MB to install packages
Jul 07 22:54:40 <limbus> it does not (yet) say how big it has to say without packages
Jul 07 22:54:55 <limbus> or which package needs which space.
Jul 07 22:55:00 <limbus> that would be cool
Jul 07 22:55:10 <limbus> I am reporting this to ReadMeSuggestions
Jul 07 22:55:29 <DrJ_> I don't really know how much space unslinging takes and whatnot
Jul 07 22:55:29 <limbus> if I can find it back
Jul 07 22:55:40 <limbus> okay
Jul 07 22:55:46 <limbus> then I'll not try today
Jul 07 22:56:18 <DrJ_> my recommendation:
Jul 07 22:56:20 <DrJ_> get a hard drive
Jul 07 22:56:26 <DrJ_> or at least a bigger flash drive
Jul 07 22:56:34 <DrJ_> flash drives can be bought with dirt anymore
Jul 07 22:57:08 <limbus> I don't understand the last part
Jul 07 22:57:39 <DrJ_> ?
Jul 07 22:58:12 <limbus> <DrJ_> flash drives can be bought with dirt anymore. <== can or can't ? what kind of dirt ? U3 ?
Jul 07 22:58:51 <DrJ_> that's just me saying they are dirt cheap
Jul 07 22:59:15 <limbus> ah, I get it
Jul 07 22:59:35 <limbus> english's simply not my native language :)
Jul 07 22:59:42 <DrJ_> when did you buy this 32MB flash drive?
Jul 07 22:59:45 <DrJ_> kind of curious
Jul 07 22:59:49 <limbus> mhmm
Jul 07 22:59:54 <DrJ_> only place I know you can get those is on eBay
Jul 07 23:00:03 <DrJ_> I think target might still sell some of those too
Jul 07 23:00:25 <limbus> I got it as a present/gift when attending a conference. they were already outdated at that time
Jul 07 23:00:47 <limbus> must have been around... 2000
Jul 07 23:00:51 <limbus> I think
Jul 07 23:00:53 <limbus> not sure tho
Jul 07 23:01:15 <DrJ_> If you really want to utilize your slug
Jul 07 23:01:19 <DrJ_> I'd get a hard drive
Jul 07 23:01:35 <DrJ_> if you use it as a file server, a flash drive will just not do
Jul 07 23:02:20 <limbus> he ? why not ?
Jul 07 23:02:27 <DrJ_> only reason I would recommend using a flash drive is if you just want the slug to do some simple tasks...like dns server or something
Jul 07 23:02:35 <DrJ_> because, you will fill that flash drive up so quickly
Jul 07 23:02:54 <DrJ_> although you could unsling to the flash drive and attach a bigger drive to the other port
Jul 07 23:03:24 <limbus> I planned to unslung to a flash drive, then connect another drive (I already got) containing the files I want to provide/share in my network
Jul 07 23:03:34 <limbus> ah, okay
Jul 07 23:03:35 <DrJ_> k
Jul 07 23:03:58 <limbus> the hdd is fat32 to be able to take it to a friend and such
Jul 07 23:04:10 <DrJ_> I wouldn't use that 32mb one though
Jul 07 23:04:19 <limbus> yeah, I reckon that
Jul 07 23:04:45 <limbus> If I knew the gas station on the other side of the road sells flash drives I'd get myself one
Jul 07 23:09:20 <limbus> wiki Unslung/WhichUSBPortforUnslung6 now says "2# The root device must be 512MB or larger in size. "
Jul 07 23:59:21 <caplink811-log> limbus, it must be > 170 MBye, because the firmware wants format the drive in a kind like this: 110Mbyte Conf Partition, ~60MByte Swap, and the rest as data partition...
Jul 08 00:00:17 <caplink811-log> but that is a out of the box behavior, you could fake this as mentioned in the wiki
Jul 08 00:01:25 <caplink811-log> and you could join #nslu2-german as well
Jul 08 00:02:40 <limbus> thanks for the pointers
Jul 08 00:03:04 <limbus> I will leave now, and get myself a new flash drive next week
Jul 08 00:03:11 <limbus> thanks for all help
Jul 08 00:03:34 <caplink811-log> np
Jul 08 00:03:45 <DrJ_> you should donate that 32 mb flash drive to a museum
Jul 08 00:03:53 <caplink811-log> ;)
Jul 08 00:04:38 <limbus> hehe
Jul 08 00:05:03 <limbus> it even has some speciality: it's in fact a wrist-clock with flash-drive
Jul 08 00:06:00 <DrJ_> oh its one of those watches with a flash drive
Jul 08 00:06:39 <limbus> jep
Jul 08 00:07:13 <DrJ_> I was considering getting one of those once
Jul 08 00:07:20 <DrJ_> not a 32mb one
Jul 08 00:07:59 <limbus> would've been cool tho. so I could wrap the watch around the nslu2 and be sure it never gets disconnected by mistake
Jul 08 00:08:07 <DrJ_> ha
Jul 08 00:08:19 <DrJ_> I doubt the band is that long
Jul 08 00:09:25 <limbus> it fits
Jul 08 00:09:45 <limbus> it's tight, and you'd have to make one more hole to fix it
Jul 08 00:09:49 <limbus> but it does
Jul 08 00:10:44 * caplink811-log heading to bed now, g8@all :)
Jul 08 00:10:56 <DrJ_> night caplink811-log
Jul 08 00:10:59 <caplink811-log> s/g8/gn8
Jul 08 00:11:15 <limbus> gnite
Jul 08 00:11:54 <limbus> is it good or bad if the flash drive is a U3 one ?
Jul 08 00:13:01 <caplink811-log> you'll lost some space
Jul 08 00:13:18 <limbus> of course
Jul 08 00:13:23 <DrJ_> I have a U3 remover
Jul 08 00:13:28 <limbus> ohoo, nice
Jul 08 00:13:32 <DrJ_> in fact, if you search google
Jul 08 00:13:33 <limbus> didn't know it's possible
Jul 08 00:13:42 <DrJ_> you will find I'm pretty much the only person who makes it available
Jul 08 00:14:05 <limbus> aha. that explains why I did not know it's possible
Jul 08 00:14:09 <DrJ_> I have about 200 people/day download the remover from me
Jul 08 00:14:55 <limbus> url pls :D
Jul 08 00:17:17 <limbus> wow. they build 8gb pendrives nowadays o0
Jul 08 00:17:36 <DrJ_> I'm back
Jul 08 00:17:42 <DrJ_> http://download.jwjkp.com/
Jul 08 00:17:48 <DrJ_> select the U3
Jul 08 00:17:51 <DrJ_> uninstaller
Jul 08 00:17:57 <limbus> bk, thanks
Jul 08 00:18:03 <limbus> s/bk/wb
Jul 08 00:18:27 <DrJ_> careful though
Jul 08 00:18:32 <DrJ_> once you run this app on your flash drive
Jul 08 00:18:33 <limbus> ?
Jul 08 00:18:35 <DrJ_> U3 is gone for life
Jul 08 00:18:40 <limbus> fine with me
Jul 08 00:18:44 <DrJ_> k
Jul 08 00:18:45 <limbus> I hate it
Jul 08 00:18:49 <DrJ_> so do I
Jul 08 00:19:08 <limbus> i've got no u3 laying around here, as you imagine
Jul 08 00:19:20 <limbus> but I suppose this tool is a fine thing
Jul 08 00:19:28 <limbus> why is it such unknown ?
Jul 08 00:19:37 <DrJ_> idk
Jul 08 00:19:48 <DrJ_> this is the same app that if you take your flash drive back to like best buy
Jul 08 00:19:51 <DrJ_> that they use to remove it
Jul 08 00:20:07 <limbus> ah, ic
Jul 08 00:20:20 <DrJ_> U3 had it on their site for a few months too
Jul 08 00:20:24 <DrJ_> but then they took it off
Jul 08 00:20:29 <limbus> pfff
Jul 08 00:20:56 <DrJ_> rather than a few upload services (which only keep the file for a week or so, or only allow so many downloads) as of last check I am the only one really hosting it
Jul 08 00:21:30 <limbus> I provide some good tools for a LOT of coworkers. this tool is going to that repository
Jul 08 00:22:49 <DrJ_> yea, keep that program
Jul 08 00:22:55 <DrJ_> or at least remember that link
Jul 08 00:23:00 <limbus> :)
Jul 08 00:23:03 <DrJ_> because you will need it again most likely
Jul 08 00:23:10 <limbus> jep
Jul 08 00:23:14 <limbus> thanks for all that
Jul 08 00:23:29 <limbus> but I really should be going now
Jul 08 00:23:33 <DrJ_> k
Jul 08 00:23:34 <DrJ_> bye
Jul 08 00:23:55 <limbus> bye
Jul 08 02:31:24 * mwester wonders why oh why people cannot do a search of the wiki, where questions on the minimum size of the Unslung flash device, as well as U3 compatability, will be found to be answered by a single wiki article, painstakingly maintained in the apparently false hope that someone will actually read it.  :(   http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/KnownProblems
Jul 08 02:33:27 * DrJ_ doesn't have a problem with it
Jul 08 02:33:49 * DrJ_ is 100% against rtfm approch
Jul 08 02:35:32 <DrJ_> nothing I hate more than when I go someone for 1 on 1 help
Jul 08 02:35:40 <DrJ_> and just get told to read a manual
Jul 08 02:37:01 <mwester> Oh I agree - if someone asks for help, the decent thing to do is to offer same... and then
Jul 08 02:37:27 <mwester> to ask how the wiki could and should be modified so as to have prevented them from being forced to ask the question in the first place.
Jul 08 02:37:38 <womble> DrJ_: That's a reasonable attitude when you're paying someone, but (ab)using volunteer resources because you couldn't be bothered to search the web is disrespectful.
Jul 08 02:38:32 <mwester> The way I see it (and this is nothing but a personal opinion) is that the wiki has NOT been updated by those seeking and receiving information, because it remains as disorganized as it was a year ago.
Jul 08 02:38:51 <DrJ_> I like the wiki
Jul 08 02:38:58 * DrJ_ uses it all the time
Jul 08 02:39:01 <mwester> I could organize it myself, but I already did so, and clearly failed -- what seems logical to someone who helped author the information is clearly not helpful for many others.
Jul 08 02:39:53 <mwester> Perhaps a re-release of Unslung 6.8 to do little more than update the README file would be a good idea?
Jul 08 02:42:05 <DrJ_> when is the next unslung version going to be out...is there one in the works?
Jul 08 02:43:15 <mwester> Building the most recent version from source will build 6.9-alpha.  There's been no driving event to make a new release noteworthy.
Jul 08 02:44:05 <mwester> Just a collection of bugfixes, mixed in with some new unslinging tools, and improved debugging/troubleshooting stuff.
Jul 08 02:45:05 <DrJ_> it can't really extend any further can it
Jul 08 02:45:12 <DrJ_> because of flash limitations
Jul 08 02:46:26 <mwester> From an initial examination of the not-officially-released Linksys R72 binary, it seems to correct some of the worst of the disk1/disk2 confusion.  If they ever released the source, that would be enough for me!
Jul 08 02:46:55 <mwester> But you are correct, flash size limitations make the obvious enhancements (such as a GUI unsling, etc) impossible :(
Jul 08 02:54:13 <DrJ_> that's too bad
Jul 08 02:54:20 <DrJ_> would help a lot of people out
Jul 08 02:54:42 <DrJ_> whats the disk1/disk2 confusion?
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