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Jul 11 07:15:57 <encode> anyone here use debian on a thecuas n2100?
Jul 11 07:18:32 <encode> thecus*
Jul 11 18:48:00 <freezer> hi
Jul 11 18:48:24 <freezer> is anyone using the slug as an DSL-router?
Jul 11 18:49:09 <freezer> was wondering if this is possible in an secure way, since the slug lacks additional wan port
Jul 11 18:49:32 <DrJ--> you have to buy a USB to ethernet adapter
Jul 11 18:49:38 <DrJ--> you can find them on ebay pretty cheap
Jul 11 18:49:46 <freezer> ya...thought so
Jul 11 18:50:12 <DrJ--> http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-LAN-10-100Mbps-Ethernet-Network-Adapter-to-RJ45-N05_W0QQitemZ330145337886QQihZ014QQcategoryZ11182QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Jul 11 18:50:15 <DrJ--> something like that
Jul 11 18:50:22 <DrJ--> that's just the first one I saw on the list
Jul 11 18:50:27 <DrJ--> probably cheaper available
Jul 11 18:50:36 <freezer> it would also be possible to connect both, slug and DSL-modem, to a switch
Jul 11 18:51:04 <freezer> but so the whole network would have access to the DSL-modem.... 
Jul 11 18:51:52 <DrJ--> no
Jul 11 18:52:01 <DrJ--> you need the switch connected to the modem
Jul 11 18:52:43 <freezer> thats what i just said?!
Jul 11 18:53:15 <DrJ--> slug and DSL-modem, to a switch
Jul 11 18:53:20 <DrJ--> you said modem to a switch
Jul 11 18:53:25 <DrJ--> you need switch to the modem
Jul 11 18:53:43 <DrJ--> nslu2 to switch, along with any other things, then the switch to the modem
Jul 11 18:54:30 <DrJ--> which is -not- what you said
Jul 11 18:54:34 <freezer> i said both, so modem and slug connected to switch
Jul 11 18:54:40 <DrJ--> and I said no
Jul 11 18:55:33 <DrJ--> nslu2 ---- > switch ----> modem ----> isp ----> and beyond
Jul 11 18:55:45 <freezer> ya
Jul 11 18:56:00 <DrJ--> can't do nslu2 & modem ----> switch
Jul 11 18:56:15 <freezer> but modem and slug are connected to the same switch!
Jul 11 18:56:24 <freezer> thats what i ment
Jul 11 18:56:31 <DrJ--> yes, but not on the same side
Jul 11 18:57:13 <DrJ--> modem needs to be on the uplink port
Jul 11 18:57:39 <freezer> the problem is, my switches can use every port as an uplink port
Jul 11 18:57:43 <freezer> and so they do..
Jul 11 18:58:25 <freezer> and thats why the whole network will 'see' the DSL-modem
Jul 11 18:58:41 <DrJ--> obviosuly
Jul 11 18:59:27 <DrJ--> so are you asking, or just telling us what your switch can do
Jul 11 18:59:27 <mwester> Of course, there is the question of why one would do such a thing (use the NSLU2 as a router) since you can use OpenWRT on router hardware, and have to add nothing.
Jul 11 19:00:14 <freezer> mwester: because openwrt router would suck additional power
Jul 11 19:00:21 <DrJ--> welcome to the world of tech geeks mwester
Jul 11 19:00:24 <freezer> i want to safe power!
Jul 11 19:00:48 <freezer> and i want USB-support, which my wrt router does not have
Jul 11 20:37:59 <mcsalty> Hi, i have a slug, running SlugOs, everything works but i'm wondering if it's possible to have a webserver running with an online console, so i can use a shell via web
Jul 11 20:38:08 <mcsalty> i just found this http://freshmeat.net/projects/wsh/ , but is there someone who can tell more about it?
Jul 11 20:46:18 <DrJ--> try it
Jul 11 20:47:39 <DrJ--> looks like its written in perl
Jul 11 20:47:51 <DrJ--> so if you have a webserver and php installed and working together
Jul 11 20:47:54 <DrJ--> It should work
Jul 11 20:48:12 <mcsalty> do u think it'll be as fast as ssh?
Jul 11 20:49:21 <Lunar_Lamp> Without having even clicked the link, I'd say no instinctively.
Jul 11 20:49:30 <Lunar_Lamp> However, whether it will be too slow, well, try it and see :-D
Jul 11 20:50:04 <mcsalty> i'm going to try it:-)
Jul 11 20:54:00 <DrJ--> mcsalty
Jul 11 20:54:08 <DrJ--> there's stuff like that written in php also
Jul 11 20:55:55 <mcsalty> oh, then i think i'll try php, i think it's not that hard to configure, do you have a link?
Jul 11 21:10:43 <mcsalty> i must go, but if there's someone who can help me with that: zepman.mcsalty.4@gmail.com
Jul 11 21:21:40 <eno> http://antony.lesuisse.org/qweb/trac/wiki/AjaxTerm also works, i've tried that
Jul 11 21:22:06 <eno> it's written in python
Jul 11 21:37:09 <Lunar_Lamp> Did you email it to him eno?
Jul 11 22:22:44 <eno> Lunar_Lamp: just did, cc to nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com
Jul 11 22:23:10 <Lunar_Lamp> :-)
Jul 11 22:23:28 <caplink811-log> special service... ;)
Jul 11 22:42:10 <Lunar_Lamp> Hey, he left his email address, may as well repay his trust :-)
Jul 11 22:42:41 <Lunar_Lamp> I was going to do it, but figured that eno was alive, so he might have done - didn't want to spam his email :-)
Jul 11 22:43:22 <eno> ideally this kind of info should go to a wiki page
Jul 11 22:48:31 <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, I suppose :-/
Jul 11 22:50:35 <caplink811-log> eno, do you know who is the maintainer of the apache package (optware)?
Jul 11 22:54:04 <eno> caplink811-log: nobody is actively maintaining apache, which means any developer can make change if he knows what he's doing
Jul 11 22:55:09 <caplink811-log> it seems, that there are some differences between apache/swat and cups and (DrJ assists me, pls) openssl or openldap.
Jul 11 22:56:03 * caplink811-log haven't his logs handy
Jul 11 22:56:42 <eno> "differences", do you mean "conflicts"?
Jul 11 22:56:54 <caplink811-log> versioning problems
Jul 11 22:57:21 <eno> k
Jul 11 22:58:52 <Lunar_Lamp> caplink811-log, so we need to get the right versions etc into the package to make them work together?
Jul 11 22:59:23 <caplink811-log> as i said, i haven't my back logs by hand, but from memory, cups try to load open"ldap" lib v3 and apache/swat would use v2...
Jul 11 23:00:04 <caplink811-log> DrJ mentioned about this at sat or sun evening (my tz)
Jul 11 23:01:15 <eno> ok, i'll check the issue
Jul 11 23:01:16 <caplink811-log> Lunar_Lamp, yeah, that's the point
Jul 11 23:01:34 <caplink811-log> eno, thx
Jul 11 23:08:19 <eno> the latest apache/httpd cups samba/nmbd all NEEDED libldap-2.3.so.0
Jul 11 23:08:54 <eno> can we make sure all these packages are up-to-date?
Jul 11 23:09:30 <eno> we can only try to make all latest ipk's work together
Jul 11 23:09:41 <eno> no guarantee about mixing old and new
Jul 11 23:14:05 <caplink811-log> eno, this http://rafb.net/p/UgFkLm69.html is the original conversation about this topic...
Jul 11 23:14:33 * caplink811-log faces some problems with miau and the log files :(
Jul 11 23:23:56 * caplink811-log is heading to bed, it is to late in my tz, gn8@all
Jul 11 23:24:10 <eno> from that conversation, the conclusion seems to be that: after upgrade all, it works fine
Jul 11 23:24:19 <eno> g'nite
Jul 11 23:25:21 <caplink811-log> as far i'm under stood, it only works if they link the requested version to the new version
Jul 11 23:26:28 <caplink811-log> but we should discuss this with DrJ later this day...
Jul 11 23:26:59 <caplink811-log> thx for your support eno 
Jul 11 23:27:58 <eno> ur most welcome
Jul 11 23:28:05 <caplink811-log> :)
Jul 11 23:30:25 <caplink811-log> DrJ--, pls read the logs...
Jul 11 23:30:52 <freezer> any possibility to mount .mdf under linux?
Jul 11 23:34:57 <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, well, if you can convert it into an iso, it will be simple enough to do freezer.
Jul 11 23:36:13 <Lunar_Lamp> There are applications to do that.
Jul 11 23:36:34 <Lunar_Lamp> I know gentoo has an application called mdf2iso in portage :-)
Jul 11 23:37:07 <caplink811-log> ~wtf mdf
Jul 11 23:37:10 <capbot> Gee...  I don't know what mdf means... 
Jul 11 23:37:14 <caplink811-log> k
Jul 11 23:38:09 <freezer> Lunar_Lamp: i know this tool, hoped there is some implentation which can mount it directly
Jul 11 23:38:40 <Lunar_Lamp> I'm not aware of one freezer, but I've never used mdf files, so have never had to investigate
Jul 11 23:39:44 <freezer> vlc can play .mdf ;)
Jul 12 00:16:49 <DrJ--> hey
Jul 12 00:17:28 <DrJ--> eno
Jul 12 00:17:40 <DrJ--> I put the problem on the wiki
Jul 12 00:18:34 <DrJ--> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddPrinter
Jul 12 00:18:38 <DrJ--> See the notes section
Jul 12 00:18:39 <DrJ--> note 1
Jul 12 00:26:10 <eno> DrJ--: when you had problem of openldap-libs 2.3.35 breaks samba, what was the version of samba?
Jul 12 00:26:23 <DrJ--> samba3
Jul 12 00:26:40 <eno> i'm trying to understand which versionof samba requires libldap-2.2.so
Jul 12 00:26:56 <eno> the detailed ipk version
Jul 12 00:27:07 <eno> you can get it with "ipkg list samba"
Jul 12 00:27:51 <DrJ--> http://ww2.jwjkp.com/log.php
Jul 12 00:28:51 <DrJ--> that link that caplink811_log suggested to me that day fixed the problem
Jul 12 00:28:55 <DrJ--> that I put on the wiki
Jul 12 00:29:41 <DrJ--> swat: error while loading shared libraries: libldap-2.2.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Jul 12 00:30:00 <DrJ--> and no file sharing worked either
Jul 12 00:30:09 <DrJ--> I got that message when I tried to go to the 901 web config
Jul 12 00:30:22 <DrJ--> and file sharing was completely down, I had no access
Jul 12 00:31:48 <DrJ--> if you refresh http://ww2.jwjkp.com/log.php
Jul 12 00:31:56 <DrJ--> I uploaded the log from that day
Jul 12 00:32:47 <eno> i noticed "[05:23:43:pm] <DrJ_> samba upgraded"
Jul 12 00:33:13 <eno> so the problem definitely is with an old samba
Jul 12 00:33:25 <DrJ--> I upgraded everything
Jul 12 00:33:29 <DrJ--> every package
Jul 12 00:33:39 <eno> although it's not clear, whether it's the symlink or the upgrade that solved the problem
Jul 12 00:34:01 <DrJ--> refresh one more time...I put the log of the day I broke it with also
Jul 12 00:34:34 <DrJ--> tell me how to remove the symobolic link
Jul 12 00:34:39 <DrJ--> and I'll remove it
Jul 12 00:34:41 <eno> can you try rm the symlink?
Jul 12 00:34:41 <DrJ--> then reboot
Jul 12 00:35:14 <eno> just "rm /opt/lib/libldap-2.2.so.7"
Jul 12 00:35:28 <eno> as root
Jul 12 00:35:31 <DrJ--> k
Jul 12 00:35:42 <DrJ--> confirming it works first
Jul 12 00:35:56 <DrJ--> k
Jul 12 00:35:59 <DrJ--> atm everything is good
Jul 12 00:36:04 <DrJ--> removing link and rebooting
Jul 12 00:36:26 <eno> then try "/opt/etc/init.d/S08samba restart"
Jul 12 00:36:32 <DrJ--> eh
Jul 12 00:36:37 <DrJ--> I just did DO_Reboot
Jul 12 00:36:42 <eno> ok
Jul 12 00:36:47 <DrJ--> too late
Jul 12 00:37:50 <eno> based on objdump of swat and smb binary, latest samba3 have the right dependency on libldap-2.3.so.0
Jul 12 00:38:29 <eno> the problem was very likely caused by ldap-2.3 and old samba
Jul 12 00:38:42 <DrJ--> find out here in a sec
Jul 12 00:38:46 * DrJ-- waits for the beep
Jul 12 00:39:22 <DrJ--> beeep
Jul 12 00:39:24 <DrJ--> :)
Jul 12 00:39:56 <DrJ--> :(
Jul 12 00:39:58 <DrJ--> you are right
Jul 12 00:40:05 <DrJ--> everything is working
Jul 12 00:40:47 <DrJ--> so should just change the note on the wiki that if you upgrade cups/samba you should update the other one also
Jul 12 00:40:52 <eno> cool, can you modify the wiki to say "make sure cups, openldap, and samba are all up-to-date"?
Jul 12 00:41:12 <eno> yeah, thx
Jul 12 00:41:14 <DrJ--> sure
Jul 12 00:41:47 <eno> ok, gtg, have fun
Jul 12 00:42:31 <DrJ--> this only applies if they are using the samba package right
Jul 12 00:42:42 <DrJ--> not the linksys one
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