**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 09 02:59:57 2007 Aug 09 06:57:10 when i try to install deb, using the webinterface, i get about 1 min in the install, "bad filename or file" or something like that =( why? Aug 09 07:02:55 digii_ webinterface isn't only way to install debian, use upslug Aug 09 07:03:21 hm Aug 09 07:03:40 did u read howto ? Aug 09 07:03:40 http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/install.html Aug 09 07:04:13 yepp Aug 09 07:05:20 just hoped the webinterface would work :P Aug 09 07:06:04 will try upslug Aug 09 07:06:24 how do i get into the slug after putting it in upgrade mode? Aug 09 07:08:04 "The NSLU2 ready/status LED will flash alternately red/green (there is a 1 second delay before the first green). The NSLU2 is now in upgrade mode." Aug 09 07:08:19 READ READ READ READ!!! Aug 09 07:08:22 yea Aug 09 07:16:06 you don't need ip or sth to flash slug Aug 09 07:20:43 hmm ok Aug 09 07:21:05 think i read somewhere that it wount work over a router? is that true? Aug 09 07:21:17 dont think i have any crossover cable :S Aug 09 07:21:48 if u have router with switch it will work Aug 09 07:22:09 to direct connect u can use cable shipped with slug Aug 09 07:22:28 can i use it direct to my computer? Aug 09 07:22:53 i think so, mine worked Aug 09 07:23:04 will try Aug 09 07:24:08 haha its stuck :P Aug 09 07:24:18 try over the router first :D Aug 09 07:27:18 digii@Fjupp:~$ sudo uplug2 -i di-nslu2.bin Aug 09 07:27:19 sudo: uplug2: command not found Aug 09 07:27:49 u have to install upslug first;) Aug 09 07:28:10 i have :S Aug 09 07:28:28 where? Aug 09 07:28:50 where? Aug 09 07:29:09 just typed sudo apt-get install upslug2 Aug 09 07:29:12 whereis upslug2 Aug 09 07:29:51 ./usr/sbin/upslug2 Aug 09 07:30:11 sudo /usr/sbin/upslug2 etc Aug 09 07:30:13 .. Aug 09 07:30:16 should work ;) Aug 09 07:30:37 replace etc with your params Aug 09 07:31:10 eth0: Operation not permitted: error using device [N12NSLU2Upgrade9WireErrorE] Aug 09 07:31:21 huh ? Aug 09 07:31:35 that what happend Aug 09 07:32:31 connection problems? Aug 09 07:35:53 prob Aug 09 07:35:53 i connect it directly to the comp Aug 09 07:35:53 still get the same error Aug 09 07:36:32 are u sure that slug is in upgrade mode? Aug 09 09:33:16 gaaah the slug wont get in to update mode :S Aug 09 09:33:31 starts flashing orange insted Aug 09 09:39:13 digii_: sure your timing is ok? Aug 09 09:40:54 yea think so, done it before and had no problem whit it, Aug 09 09:41:23 there's no way i maigh have destroyed some stuff for it to enter upgrade mode? :P Aug 09 09:51:12 digii_: it's hard to destroy that if you don't use upslug2 -C or sth like that Aug 09 09:57:28 hmm after flashing slug whit deb, should i restart it and put a disk in it? Aug 09 09:57:41 ssh installer@ip then? Aug 09 09:58:15 or not restart? Aug 09 09:58:33 the lamp on it is orange Aug 09 10:02:43 hmm when i ssh to slug nothing happens Aug 09 10:03:48 wait for beeps, then try to connect Aug 09 10:04:34 have Aug 09 10:05:03 i use ssh installer@192.168.0.143 Aug 09 10:05:13 and then nothing happens Aug 09 10:05:21 no timeout ? or sth ? Aug 09 10:05:26 nothing Aug 09 10:05:41 just free space under that line and the pointer is just there Aug 09 10:05:57 try ping Aug 09 10:06:17 nothing Aug 09 10:06:18 are u sure that it's your slug ip ? Aug 09 10:06:41 reconfigure your nic and try 192.168.1.77 Aug 09 10:07:31 got anew ip for it and now something atleast happend :p Aug 09 10:07:59 WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! Aug 09 10:08:18 hm ? Aug 09 10:08:24 Add correct host key in /home/digii/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message. Aug 09 10:08:25 hmm? Aug 09 10:08:30 isn't that just a ssh warning Aug 09 10:08:41 rm /home/digi/.ssh/known_hosts Aug 09 10:10:37 rm: cannot remove `/home/digii/.ssh/known_hosts': No such file or directory Aug 09 10:11:31 aaah got in to it now =) Aug 09 10:11:56 ch4os_: thz :D ur my savior as allways :p Aug 09 10:16:05 what should i do in the partition disks :S "help on partitioning" or what? :S Aug 09 10:18:38 ch4os_ ? Aug 09 10:19:33 i don't remember, i'm always do partitioning manualy Aug 09 10:20:17 there is no choice to do it yourself :D Aug 09 10:21:03 there is some /dev/mtdblock0 2 3 4 5 and diffrent amount of kb and mb Aug 09 10:28:56 Select the tpe of partition table to use? Partition table type Aug 09 10:29:31 there is Amiga bsd dvh gpt msdos pc98 s290 sun loop to chose from? Aug 09 10:34:07 mhm help? arnt u suppose to install root and swaap to hard drive usb disk? Aug 09 10:34:36 or are i suppose to use the 6,5mb space as swap and maybe the 1,5 Aug 09 10:34:40 as root Aug 09 10:35:13 if u want to use slug as torrent klient setup swap a little bigger... ~100mb ? Aug 09 10:35:29 there is no space big as that? Aug 09 10:42:21 gaah Aug 09 10:43:31 this is nog going to well Aug 09 10:45:16 why? Aug 09 10:45:28 make 2 partitions Aug 09 10:45:40 cant even find the hard drivee Aug 09 10:45:46 why? Aug 09 10:45:57 have no ide Aug 09 10:46:41 restart slug with hdd pluged in Aug 09 10:47:35 hehe trying =) it doesnt wanna restart :P Aug 09 10:48:09 the two top lamps are lighted top is orange and the other on is green Aug 09 10:49:33 rm: cannot remove `/home/digii/.ssh/known_hosts': No such file or directory Aug 09 10:49:39 opps Aug 09 10:49:42 sry Aug 09 10:52:51 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.143 port 22: No route to host Aug 09 11:16:36 after upslug-ing several times with usb disks plugged in, i've read somewhere that that would be a bad thing. can anyone tell me how bad? Aug 09 11:33:33 another question: is there any way to predict which device will be sda and which sdb? seems to flip at random... Aug 09 11:58:37 chrysn: Do you mean they flip during boots? Aug 09 11:59:30 Anyway, I think it's related to the port and not the device Aug 09 12:00:22 so as you keep the device connected to the same port on the slug or usb hub then you're fine Aug 09 12:04:49 mystiqu: yes; i always have them plugged in the same way but it flipped nevertheless Aug 09 12:05:06 (started debian installer 2x) Aug 09 12:09:29 Sounds strange - Don't know how to fix it, just a newbie ;) got my slug 5 days ago, just installed OpenSlug and configured samba, vsftpd and some other goodies Aug 09 12:10:07 works as a charm =) Aug 09 12:17:27 have u tried editing /etc/fstab and chaning the dev devices to the label?? Aug 09 12:17:38 hello Aug 09 12:18:00 is there a german nslu channel, too? Aug 09 12:18:04 like: LABEL=myDisk /media/sdb1 ext3 rw 0 0 Aug 09 12:20:00 I've never tried it myself though... but worth a shot, don't u think so? =) Aug 09 12:23:00 chrysn: Found a forum thread which addresses your particular problem, http://www.nabble.com/Fixed-device-to-port-assignment.-Help%21-t1520875.html#a4153638 Aug 09 12:28:25 mystiqu u can identify disk by id look into /dev/disk/ Aug 09 12:29:12 sls_323 no, there isnt Aug 09 12:29:37 thanks! Aug 09 12:29:44 ok... thanks for the info Aug 09 12:30:03 because my english isn't so well Aug 09 12:30:13 sls_323: worst case, i can translate Aug 09 12:30:34 ah perfect Aug 09 12:30:54 ch4os_: dont have /dev/disk/ Aug 09 12:31:23 i have a NSLU2 and i'm using unslung-6.8-beta Aug 09 12:31:24 and suddenly this became a multi language channel :D Aug 09 12:32:09 no i must write in german... (sry ^^) Aug 09 12:32:34 there is /dev/disk on debian :) and should be on every 2.6.* distro Aug 09 12:33:28 Habe nach einem tutorial http://www.gargi.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=48 einen Bug beheben wollen, aber nachdem ich alles nach Anleitung gemacht habe, finde ich zur Überprüfung von eaccelerator den Abschnitt in der phpinfo.php ausgabe nicht mehr Aug 09 12:33:31 ch4os_: well, not on my system :) OpenSlug 3.10 Beta, Kernel 2.6.16 Aug 09 12:33:45 crap:P Aug 09 12:33:49 haha Aug 09 12:34:55 sls_323: said: i tried to fix a bug according to a tutorial http://www.gargi.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=48, but after working through it, i don't find the eaccelerator section in phpinfo.php's output Aug 09 12:35:18 thangs to chrysn Aug 09 12:35:22 thanks Aug 09 12:36:30 when just upslung deb to your slug Aug 09 12:36:31 how do u sellect the modules u need to suceed whit the installation? Aug 09 12:36:51 * mystiqu went to to some sun and maybe even a tan :D Aug 09 12:36:54 get Aug 09 12:37:03 @digii do you mean me? Aug 09 12:37:16 mean u? Aug 09 12:37:59 oh.. sry.. nvm Aug 09 12:39:43 gaaah my slug dont get any ip after upslug it and connect it to the home network Aug 09 12:40:05 cant even ping it Aug 09 12:40:16 Destination host unreachable :( Aug 09 12:41:03 digii@Fjupp:~$ ssh installer@192.168.0.143 Aug 09 12:41:03 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.143 port 22: No route to host Aug 09 12:41:23 does anyone know any solution to this? Aug 09 12:42:18 digii_: have you tried to scan through all potential networks? (nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24) Aug 09 12:42:47 digii can you ping to 255.255.255.255 or are you running windows? Aug 09 12:43:01 no im running ubuntu Aug 09 12:43:20 great. ping the 255's, see what ips answer Aug 09 12:43:49 hmm Aug 09 12:44:13 ping 255.255.255.255 -b ? Aug 09 12:45:02 just ping 255.255.255.255 should do Aug 09 12:45:28 used nmap, and there is onyl 2 ip, this comp and the router Aug 09 12:45:53 right. are you on the 192.168.0.0/24? Aug 09 12:45:57 digii_ i think that your slug has .1.77 ip ;) Aug 09 12:46:01 in germany is nmap illegal :,( Aug 09 12:46:15 :O Aug 09 12:46:23 but is use id ... wayne :D Aug 09 12:46:27 ch4os_: yes, I think so too Aug 09 12:46:27 s/id/it Aug 09 12:47:19 why would it have 1.77 and if it would, shouldent nmap show it? Aug 09 12:47:36 not if your netmask is 255.255.255.0 Aug 09 12:48:09 any way to get to it? :S Aug 09 12:48:26 reconfigure your network card Aug 09 12:48:39 digii@Fjupp:~$ ping 255.255.255.255 Aug 09 12:48:39 Do you want to ping broadcast? Then -b Aug 09 12:49:09 i've seen rumours about slugs being on 192.168.2.77.... Aug 09 12:49:53 why the hell did my ip disapaer :D Aug 09 12:50:24 should maybe install unslung again, reset the ip whit the webinterface and restart it all? Aug 09 12:50:35 can that work? Aug 09 12:50:36 it seems, that nobody could help me Aug 09 12:50:38 so ciao Aug 09 12:51:13 sls_323: I think I missed your question Aug 09 12:52:27 oh, it was Germanish... I do dutch pretty well, but not so german. Aug 09 12:52:30 i tried to fix a bug according to a tutorial http://www.gargi.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=48, but after working through it, i don't find the eaccelerator section in phpinfo.php's output Aug 09 12:53:03 thats the translation from chrysn of my question Aug 09 12:53:37 right, did you install the eaccellerator? Aug 09 12:55:00 you might want to try a pho or eaccellerator discussion group, I dont know much about them Aug 09 12:55:09 or mail the author of the tutorial Aug 09 12:55:16 sorry, can;t help you Aug 09 12:59:20 Hello, sorry to ask but can't find the information on the wiki. I believe my slug is running out of memory (sshd dies after indeterminate amount of time, press of the power button is not detected, httpd stops responding) but of course with no terminal I can't verify why. Nothing of note in 'messages' log. Running latest unslung, slung out to a usb flash disk (with swap turned off which is... Aug 09 12:59:21 ...why I am concerned about memory). How do I know if this is the right diagnosis? Aug 09 13:02:31 can you turn on swap and see if the problem persists? Aug 09 13:03:00 I could do, but I'm worried about frying the pen drive :) Aug 09 13:03:39 I'm only sort of familiar with linux, is there another source of logging for a kernel panic that might help me determine why it stopped responding? Aug 09 13:08:02 can i use upslug to get unslung firmware in the slug? Aug 09 13:10:03 It looks like it - http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/UpSlug Aug 09 13:10:19 Haven't tried myself though Aug 09 13:11:23 ooh ok :D Aug 09 17:38:42 for the logs: #nslu2-german still exists Aug 09 17:58:30 hello Aug 09 18:46:28 I'm trying to decide whether I'm going to use a flash-drive as main drive or not. What are your thoughts on this? Aug 09 18:47:19 I'm thinking it would be nice to have it on a flash drive since I could then survive HD-failures, not have the HD to spin up all the time (=quiet slug) but I've also heard that flash drives don't do very well as swap drives. Aug 09 18:48:43 flash drives have 300k - 1000k write times limit Aug 09 18:49:23 which is a bad thing? Aug 09 18:49:39 hm Aug 09 18:49:48 hi Aug 09 18:50:34 i think it's useable, if there are ssd drives at shops (with 5yr warranty) Aug 09 18:53:01 I have one at home which I thought about using. 1 year old 1gb one. I don't know about the warranty. Will a flash drive be used much though if I'm running unslung? Maybe the built in flash is enough most of the time. Aug 09 18:53:31 ssd is too expensive, i think Aug 09 18:53:40 strohi it was only for example :) Aug 09 18:53:47 at the time, yes Aug 09 18:53:47 technology is the same.. (flash) Aug 09 18:54:03 flash here, flash there :P Aug 09 18:54:07 so conclusion, flash drive = yay or nay? Aug 09 18:54:16 yay ;) Aug 09 18:54:30 hm Aug 09 18:55:06 I'm thinking of trying out debian/nslu2 too so maybe flash drive is the way to go Aug 09 18:55:08 johlin my slug uses only about 5mb of swap (for some cache) Aug 09 18:55:21 and it's not written to that often? Aug 09 18:55:27 nope Aug 09 18:56:06 might not be a problem then. If I backup the drive every now and then I can manage a failure. Flash drives are dirt cheap nowadys. Aug 09 18:56:07 i don't use slug for torrent files, only smb/nfs Aug 09 18:56:16 but when some log stuff must be written .. Aug 09 18:56:23 sometimes lighttpd Aug 09 18:56:37 hm, I'm thinking of using it as a torrent-box and smb. Aug 09 18:57:08 with torrent it'll be lot of swaping, i think Aug 09 18:57:28 I'll go for it anyway I think, as long as I backup the flash drive. Aug 09 18:57:39 anyway, do I need to do anything to control spinning up/down of my external harddrive? I have no knowledge of what's best for the drive in the long run. Aug 09 18:57:42 but, as u say ;) flash drives are very cheap Aug 09 18:58:01 there is script... wait.. Aug 09 18:58:06 thanks Aug 09 18:58:25 hd-idle Aug 09 18:59:01 i've found it somewhere on nslu2-linux.org Aug 09 18:59:05 johlin: to set expectations re: spindown of drives with Unslung -- very low probability that it will work. Aug 09 18:59:21 I see Aug 09 18:59:31 It was not designed for it, there is no support in the kernel, and no support provided by the USB/IDE chips currently available. Aug 09 19:00:05 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/SpinDownUSBHarddisks Aug 09 19:00:08 And it's not common for USB2-drives to do it on it's own? Aug 09 19:01:10 mwester it works for me Aug 09 19:01:16 Some do. Others can be "told" to by connecting the drive via an IDE cable to a host computer, and issuing the IDE command to set spindown, then placing in the USB enclosure (without turning off power to drive!).... Aug 09 19:02:02 If noise doesn't matter, what is the best thing for the drive? To spin down when idle or not? Aug 09 19:02:17 ch4os_: Your success is the tiny ray of hope that makes so many Unslung users do so many strange things to try to get theirs to work as well :-D Aug 09 19:02:41 In general, for 3.5" drives, leave them spinning. Aug 09 19:03:10 2.5" laptop drives are built to handle the spinup/spindown and head-load/unload cycles, most 3.5" drives are not. Aug 09 19:03:37 The drive is 3.5". No problem then. Aug 09 19:05:32 I look to consumer devices such as the TiVo -- they leave the hard drive running 24x7, and set drive acoustics to handle noise problems. If it works for them, I figure it'll work for me. Aug 09 19:06:22 The only problem I've had is a cheap eBay USB enclosure, that overheated a Maxtor drive -- all my Western Digital enclosures have been flawless. Aug 09 19:07:21 (I have an Unslung 6.8 server with 2x250GB drives as my primary file server, uptime is >250 days since last boot) Aug 09 19:07:30 well, since the drive is sold with both harddrive and enclosure, it should be able to hanldle the heat. Aug 09 19:07:50 Which enclosure? Aug 09 19:07:58 the MyBook, 500gb Aug 09 19:08:26 big one, then. Just keep it cool, it should be happy. Aug 09 19:08:59 room temperature good enough? Aug 09 19:09:45 Yep. As long as it's truly at room temp, and not in the sunlight, or on a radiator, or stacked on top of a monitor -- of course! Aug 09 19:12:13 it is on a shelf, not in direct sunlight Aug 09 19:12:33 I do have my wrt54gl router and the adsl-modem on the same shelf but they don't generate much heat so it should be alright? Aug 09 20:21:23 when i have the debian on my slug ..can i use several partition on a harddrive? Aug 09 20:30:30 sure, why not? Aug 09 20:30:58 the standard firmware cant Aug 09 20:31:14 maybe, but you asking about debian Aug 09 20:31:39 and during install i can create a new partition table? Aug 09 20:33:19 yes, but according to the faq you should create it before you start the installer, aka, use a linux live cd (if you haven't a linux box available) and do the partitioning Aug 09 20:33:53 hm .. if i can choose ... i will never see a wintendo pc anymore. Aug 09 20:34:21 ok Aug 09 20:34:51 i think swap, 1 partition system, and 2 data partitions should be ok Aug 09 20:35:05 whatever meets your needs Aug 09 20:43:14 i think i try it tommorow :D Aug 09 21:26:33 hi Aug 09 21:27:18 hi Aug 09 21:27:24 aerm .. anyone here who could maybe ;) help me with the proftpd directive (running unslung) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 10 02:59:57 2007