**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 19 02:59:57 2007
Aug 19 03:14:44 <solarbaby> not much going in here this weekend
Aug 19 05:13:37 <Gunner_Jr> does anybody know if nslu2 firmware is supported on a motorola wr850g?
Aug 19 05:18:17 <mwester> OpenWRT runs on many devices, including both the NSLU2 and the WR850G... but that may not be what you mean by NSLU2 firmware
Aug 19 05:19:20 <Gunner_Jr> sorry, mwester. I will be more specific. I want to install NSLU2 on WR850G to get the reverse proxy feature from pound pkg.
Aug 19 05:29:13 <mwester> Gunner_Jr:  The pre-compiled software pacakges are called "optware", and are available built for several different firmware types, for different CPU chips.
Aug 19 05:29:42 <eno> Gunner_Jr: WR850g is mipsel, right?
Aug 19 05:30:30 <mwester> There is optware available for the OpenWRT firmware, which runs on the WR850G, IIRC.   No firmware specifically built for the NSLU2 will run on the WR850G, they have different CPUs.
Aug 19 05:30:53 <eno> also, the last time i tried pound, it has runtime problem on nslu2
Aug 19 05:30:57 <mwester> eno: Yes, WR850G is almost exactly the same as the Linksys WRT series.
Aug 19 05:31:16 <eno> for reverse proxy, i'd suggest nginx instead
Aug 19 05:31:18 <Gunner_Jr> what other options to pound do I have?
Aug 19 05:33:11 <Gunner_Jr> nginx?
Aug 19 05:33:24 <Gunner_Jr> haven't heard of that one?
Aug 19 05:33:46 <Gunner_Jr> does it have a web interface to configure?
Aug 19 05:35:09 <eno> don't think so, most reverse proxy are just configured with config file
Aug 19 05:35:53 <eno> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ReverseProxy
Aug 19 05:37:24 <Gunner_Jr> cool, thank you.
Aug 19 06:11:41 <Gunner_Jr> okay, I got the openwrt bin image, do I flash my router through the standard image update web page on my router?
Aug 19 06:19:55 <Gunner_Jr> I am confused with the instructions to get my WR850G with NSLUG2. Do I first flash with the OpenWRT firmware first for my router model and then install the NSLU2 support on top?
Aug 19 06:38:18 <mwester> Gunner_Jr:  Do not follow any instructions for the NSLU2.  Follow the instructions for OpenWRT from the www.openwrt.org site.
Aug 19 06:53:33 <Gunner_Jr> so the openwrt download has NSLU2 in it?
Aug 19 08:12:27 <Gunner_Jr> bye all
Aug 19 08:28:45 <solarbaby> Anyone have any idea of the best way to back up my entire unslung operating system?
Aug 19 08:30:25 <ch4os_> u can use dd 
Aug 19 08:30:37 <solarbaby> whats that?
Aug 19 08:31:07 <ch4os_> very usefull tool ;)
Aug 19 08:31:26 <solarbaby> is that a ipkg package?
Aug 19 08:31:33 <ch4os_> dunno ;)
Aug 19 08:32:45 <ch4os_> http://www.cpqlinux.com/ddbackup.html
Aug 19 08:33:56 <solarbaby> ok that looks like it'd be the same as me booting into ubuntu cd and just taring the whole usb disk..  correct?
Aug 19 08:35:28 <ch4os_> hmm it will work too, but dont forget about proper params, if u want to save permissions and proper symlinks
Aug 19 08:36:10 <solarbaby> yeah thats true
Aug 19 08:36:23 <solarbaby> so either way I need to shut down and boot the drive off something else
Aug 19 08:36:49 <ch4os_> and u don't have to backup /proc and /dev ;) it's useless
Aug 19 08:36:59 <solarbaby> right on
Aug 19 08:37:56 <solarbaby> I finally have everything just the way I want it..  I've owned this device for about a week now
Aug 19 08:38:10 <ch4os_> hmm tar -cvpf should be ok ;)
Aug 19 08:38:12 <solarbaby> Irssi was the most fun :)
Aug 19 08:38:26 <solarbaby> Thanks! I'll write that in my notes
Aug 19 08:38:46 <solarbaby> tar -cvpf /    right?
Aug 19 08:39:00 <ch4os_> tar -cvpf /as_media/backup/system.tar  --exclude=/dev --exclude=/tmp --exclude=/var --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys /
Aug 19 08:39:01 <ch4os_> ;)
Aug 19 08:39:16 <ch4os_> hmm u may need var
Aug 19 08:39:52 <ch4os_> so  tar -cvpf /as_media/backup/system.tar  --exclude=/dev --exclude=/tmp --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys /
Aug 19 08:40:28 <solarbaby> Perfect!  Thanks ch4os_ !
Aug 19 08:41:50 <solarbaby> I'll certainly feel much better after I've done that
Aug 19 08:45:45 <ch4os_> solarbaby u can also backup your flash image ;)
Aug 19 08:45:47 <ch4os_> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/CompletelyBackupTheNSLU2
Aug 19 08:46:10 <solarbaby> Awesome!
Aug 19 09:49:45 <ppmarcel> hi
Aug 19 09:52:24 <ppmarcel> i've got an error 530 when i try to connect at pure-ftp. There is a solution, which consist to make a specific link in linux, but i can't do it, because folders needed don't exist under openslug.
Aug 19 09:52:30 <ppmarcel> how i can fix this error?
Aug 19 09:53:55 <ppmarcel> note: i only have this deamon which run:  pure-ftpd (SERVER) Do i miss an other one?
Aug 19 09:55:28 <solarbaby> if your running openssh you can use sftp
Aug 19 09:56:04 <solarbaby> its better anyways.. cause you only have to open up 1 port
Aug 19 09:56:44 <solarbaby> I never bothered finsihing the setup to any ftp daemons cause they just aren't necessary
Aug 19 09:56:52 <ppmarcel> i was interested by pure-ftpd because i can create virtual users
Aug 19 09:57:10 <ppmarcel> may i create vu whith openssh?
Aug 19 09:57:10 <solarbaby> yeah thats actually kind of cool
Aug 19 09:57:23 <solarbaby> doubtful
Aug 19 09:57:30 <ppmarcel> :s
Aug 19 09:57:47 <solarbaby> however you can jail them in
Aug 19 09:57:56 <solarbaby> and disable terminal ssh for them
Aug 19 09:58:15 <ppmarcel> i can access with a webbroswer?
Aug 19 09:58:32 <solarbaby> you can access it with a sftp client..  only
Aug 19 09:58:46 <ppmarcel> i won't use it so
Aug 19 09:58:51 <ppmarcel> my friends aren't geeks
Aug 19 09:59:12 <solarbaby> in that case you might as well tunnel samba for them :)
Aug 19 09:59:30 <ppmarcel> no, i need a ftp over the web
Aug 19 09:59:36 <ppmarcel> ah ok
Aug 19 09:59:38 <ppmarcel> hum
Aug 19 10:00:13 <ppmarcel> no, it will be same: they aren't pro at ordi, i won't force them to learn how open this famous tunnel, etc..
Aug 19 10:00:26 <ppmarcel> i need to stay easy in client side
Aug 19 10:00:39 <ppmarcel> that's why i would run pure :)
Aug 19 10:00:57 <ppmarcel> but it don't run at the nslu2 starting -__-
Aug 19 10:00:57 <solarbaby> yeah I know what you mean
Aug 19 10:01:05 <ppmarcel> :)
Aug 19 10:01:40 <ppmarcel> i should ty to contact ppl on website who have runned this deamon
Aug 19 10:02:04 <solarbaby> my proftpd is working fine
Aug 19 10:02:08 <solarbaby> just checked it
Aug 19 10:02:45 <ppmarcel> yes?
Aug 19 10:02:54 <ppmarcel> it don't messup the slug?
Aug 19 10:02:55 <solarbaby> are you using proftpd or pure-ftp?
Aug 19 10:03:32 <ppmarcel> pure actually
Aug 19 10:03:40 <solarbaby> Ok I never installed that..  
Aug 19 10:03:43 <ppmarcel> but it don't work yet
Aug 19 10:03:59 <solarbaby> check out Proftp and see if you might like that
Aug 19 10:04:02 <ppmarcel> if i can create virtual users with proftp, i will test it
Aug 19 10:04:05 <ppmarcel> ok
Aug 19 10:04:30 <ppmarcel> btw, i think that my probelm is caused byt my ftpgroup or ftpuser
Aug 19 10:04:53 <ppmarcel> in tuto, user is created with useradd, and i only have adduser under openslug
Aug 19 10:04:54 <solarbaby> http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-VirtualUsers.html
Aug 19 10:05:06 <ppmarcel> i think i can't create this user with good options then
Aug 19 10:09:07 <ppmarcel> 3Pif i'm right, xinetd launch deamon only when they are required, right?
Aug 19 10:09:16 <ppmarcel> and shut them at the end?
Aug 19 10:10:43 <solarbaby> I think thats how it works..  Im kinda new
Aug 19 10:10:46 <solarbaby> sorry
Aug 19 10:10:56 <solarbaby> only had my slug for a week
Aug 19 10:11:28 <ppmarcel> ok
Aug 19 10:11:56 <ppmarcel> i remember you, you had a problem some days ago
Aug 19 10:12:20 <ppmarcel> with debian install or something like that?
Aug 19 10:12:37 <solarbaby> Yeah.. thats right..  so I settled on unslung for now
Aug 19 10:12:58 <solarbaby> and since I've just about finished everythign I ever wanted to do with unslung.. Im going to back it all up and start with debain as soon as I have more free time
Aug 19 10:13:33 <solarbaby> I've got to admit though.. Unslung can do just about everythign I've asked of it
Aug 19 10:14:16 <solarbaby> I may want to add wifi directly to the slug at some point and that would be easier in debian
Aug 19 10:14:29 <ppmarcel> ok
Aug 19 10:14:40 <ppmarcel> i nevet thought about wifi
Aug 19 10:14:50 <solarbaby> anyways take a close look at proftp like I said.. it can do what you want
Aug 19 10:14:54 <ppmarcel> you guys find fun usage of your slug ^^
Aug 19 10:15:13 <solarbaby> Yeah..  I know what I want it for.. and I totally go after it
Aug 19 10:15:16 <ppmarcel> yes, i'm actually browse for tuto
Aug 19 10:15:27 <solarbaby> you should see Irssi its amazing once you've spent 2hours learning about it
Aug 19 10:15:50 <ppmarcel> you launch irssi from the slug?
Aug 19 10:16:02 <ppmarcel> i done it under unslung, but i can't now
Aug 19 10:16:14 <ppmarcel> i don't remember where is libperl.so
Aug 19 10:16:33 <solarbaby> irssi works wonderfuly from the slug
Aug 19 10:16:53 <ppmarcel> you didn't have a problem for first launching?
Aug 19 10:19:35 <solarbaby> I had a hard time because I was plugging my hard drive into usb port 1 
Aug 19 10:20:10 <solarbaby> once I switched to port 2 everything was really easy..  cept my next big ordeal was that I didn't know how to make the system remember passwords.. but that was something i eventually found documents on
Aug 19 10:20:29 <ppmarcel> lol
Aug 19 10:23:31 <solarbaby> so you wanted to locate libperl.so right?
Aug 19 10:23:51 <solarbaby> type this .. you might have to be root im not certain 
Aug 19 10:23:53 <solarbaby> find / -name "libperl.so"
Aug 19 11:06:46 <widrone> This is confusing, no matter what I upslug2 to my nslu it just wont boot properly anymore. 
Aug 19 11:08:00 <widrone> I get into redboot (telnet) atlest and I have reset the sysconf info just to be safe, but still the same behaviour. 
Aug 19 11:09:39 <widrone> So with my limited nslu booting knowledge I am guessing something is corrupted at the end of mtdblock0...
Aug 19 11:15:29 <widrone> Going with that theory, x -b 0x5003FFB0 -l 0x6 (in redboot) gives me the MAC so that is ok. 
Aug 19 11:17:11 <widrone> But "x -b 0x5003FFB6 -l 0x4" gives me "5003FFB6: 00 00 00 41" and the wiki says it should be "00 00 41 00", but I could be reading all this the wrong way. 
Aug 19 11:17:35 <widrone> Having missed some offset or something. *ponder* 
Aug 19 11:19:52 <widrone> Im not making sense am I? ;)
Aug 19 11:50:02 <solarbaby> Im sorry I dont know how to help you 
Aug 19 12:02:24 <widrone> solarbaby: np, just thinking out loud incase somebody needs to tell me Im lost in the woods. ;) 
Aug 19 12:06:35 <solarbaby> grin
Aug 19 12:06:41 <solarbaby> always a good idea
Aug 19 12:07:11 <solarbaby> I think i'll backup my entire system right now
Aug 19 12:07:14 <solarbaby> brb
Aug 19 15:12:29 <PPmarcel> does someone knows how save a new folder about PATH? i need to type it manually for each loggin :/
Aug 19 15:52:52 <PPmarcel> does someone use pure-ftpd on his slu?
Aug 19 15:52:57 <PPmarcel> slug*
Aug 19 16:16:28 <ch4os_> i'm using pureftpd, not on nslu but i'm using it;)
Aug 19 16:34:50 <MystiQu> anyone here got experience tuning samba?
Aug 19 16:35:38 <MystiQu> I have really low read/write speeds when copying files from my samba share to my laptop (winxp)
Aug 19 16:36:25 <MystiQu> I've been playing around with SO_SNDBUF but the best performance so far is ~0,75mb/s (copying a 10mb file)
Aug 19 17:52:50 <PPmarcel> MystiQu: what are your read/write peed?
Aug 19 17:54:52 <PPmarcel> hum, yes slow ok
Aug 19 19:07:53 <MystiQu> I'm back
Aug 19 19:08:17 <MystiQu> PPmarcel: very slow read/write speed...  can't even get it up to 1mb/s
Aug 19 19:25:49 <MystiQu> seem like the tcp window is very small...   2 pkgs slug-->win, then 1 ack win-->slug...  and so on
Aug 19 21:26:40 <widrone> mke2fs on debian/slug really does make something go ugly fast...
Aug 19 22:19:17 <xantax2> hello all, I have an issue on openslug 3.10 I could use some advice with if anyone has a minute. The slug root runs off a thumb drive, and has an external hdd ext3 mounted and shared on samba, the slug wont boot up fully unless the drive is unplugged.
Aug 19 22:31:13 <widrone> Hmmm, swap on the hdd or something else like fstab that ries to mount something from the hdd? 
Aug 19 22:31:33 <widrone> Oh, UNplugged ... 
Aug 19 22:31:46 <widrone> Sorry been up for too long again. 
Aug 19 22:32:22 <widrone> thumbusb in port 1 and the hdd in 2? 
Aug 19 22:36:47 <xantax2> erm let me just check numbers
Aug 19 22:37:29 <xantax2> thumb in 2 (top) hdd in 1(bottom)
Aug 19 22:37:49 <xantax2> hdd is mounted /mnt/usb and has entry in fstab
Aug 19 22:37:59 <widrone> Thats why then, in the boot the devices get assigned to the /dev/sda
Aug 19 22:38:29 <widrone> erm, the hdd gets hooked up as sda or hda and tries to be mounted as / 
Aug 19 22:38:43 <widrone> try powerdown and swapping them around 
Aug 19 22:39:23 <xantax2> worth a shot definately
Aug 19 22:39:32 <widrone> see if that may work, havent run openslug an a bit so I cant 100% remember how the mounts/assigns get done 
Aug 19 22:40:12 <widrone> its only the linksys stock firmware that needs you to stick the usbstick in 2 to work ;)
Aug 19 22:40:44 <xantax2> yeah i moved to openslug fairly recently so I had all the rules from unslung and stock in mind when i did it
Aug 19 22:41:53 <xantax2> irritatingly the slug performs way better with openslug than as stock, needent have bought a dlink nas to do the same job!
Aug 19 22:42:04 <xantax2> fantastic, has just booted and have ssh access
Aug 19 22:42:28 <xantax2> samba shares all good to. cheers!
Aug 19 22:43:41 <widrone> jolly good! then I think ill zip off to bed... have fun openslugging! 
Aug 19 22:43:49 <xantax2> thanks again
Aug 19 22:47:45 <Hideki> mount root UUID instead of device name.. the name can change as the kernel see fit
Aug 19 22:54:03 <widrone> Hideki: Smart move, but I just went for the hardware "solution" and he left. But I keep hearing about UUID as the more elegant solution all over the place. 
Aug 19 22:54:48 <Hideki> it's not a huge problem when you only have two usb ports :)
Aug 19 22:55:36 <widrone> Indeed, but it lets you swap in and out hubs and replug all over the place without worries I guess. 
Aug 19 22:59:31 <widrone> One of these days Ill read up on it and start using it instead, I promise. 
Aug 19 23:00:16 <Hideki> it's in the wiki.. somewhere
Aug 19 23:00:46 <Hideki> and it will of course break if you change the partition
Aug 19 23:01:20 <widrone> 2 of the first 10 hits are about the nslu2 if i google "debian mount by uuid" :)
Aug 19 23:02:02 <Hideki> must be a common problem then
Aug 19 23:02:57 <widrone> I think its the "usb stick in port 2" thinking from stock firmware users that makes it a common prbolem 
Aug 19 23:03:28 <Hideki> what is the reason the original firmware had that limitation?
Aug 19 23:03:42 <mwester> For exactly the reason above.
Aug 19 23:04:17 <mwester> The "sda" / "sdb" assignments on a USB port are non-deterministic.
Aug 19 23:04:35 <mwester> Linksys' modified kernel hard-codes sda/b to specific USB ports.
Aug 19 23:04:49 <Hideki> ok
Aug 19 23:05:03 <mwester> No hubs were supported orgiinally, so it was just sda/sdb.
Aug 19 23:06:00 <mwester> Then in R63 they needed to add support for multi-LUN devices and multiple target devices -- so they let Port 1 become sdb, sdc, sdd, etc.
Aug 19 23:06:39 <mwester> Why they chose in R63 to make USB port 1 the one that would support all the funky hardware, instead of port 2 is unknown.
Aug 19 23:08:04 <mwester> So, fundamentally, the odd, strange, and undesirable behavior of the Linksys firmware with regard to devices is all a result of some very bad planning up front, when they hard-coded sda/b to USB devices, and restricted device support on each.
Aug 19 23:08:31 <mwester> Thank goodness for SlugOS (aka OpenSlug) and OpenWRT, to fix that problem the right way.
Aug 19 23:11:02 <Hideki> yay for the developers
Aug 20 02:15:36 <cirvin_fox> hello?
Aug 20 02:17:16 <cirvin_fox> i'm having some issues installing debian to my NSLU2 and the debian-arm channel seems rather dead
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