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Oct 03 10:57:40 <Kvaks> Anyone else get the error "socket: Address family not supported by protocol" when using ssh-agent forwarding with the openssh at the slug as intermediate?
Oct 03 10:57:58 <Kvaks> Agent forwarding A->B->slug works fine, but not A->slug->B.
Oct 03 10:59:11 <Kvaks> (Openssh + uNSLUng)
Oct 03 14:24:34 <y99> hello
Oct 03 14:30:15 <Kvaks> Yo.
Oct 03 15:49:58 <NSLU2-IRC> Ok, this is not working very well, Can anyone recommend two good Irc clients? One for xp and one for Linux?
Oct 03 16:11:37 <gouki> NSLU2-IRC: irssi for GNU/Linux is a good idea.
Oct 03 16:11:58 <gouki> For something more user-friendly consider using xchat
Oct 03 16:12:05 <gouki> Both of these can run on Windows :)
Oct 03 16:18:49 <NSLU2-IRC> gouki: Thank you.
Oct 03 16:19:00 <gouki> NSLU2-IRC: np
Oct 03 16:48:48 <PPmarcel> jhkhkhh
Oct 03 17:15:25 <zpertee> hi.  I am unsure which firmware I'll need.  All that I need to do is backup data remotely from a windows box and from a linux box.  Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Oct 03 17:16:14 <gouki> zpertee: Have you read the Wiki? It provides with pros and cons of each firmware available for NSLU2. Maybe it's safer to choose from there.
Oct 03 17:16:33 <widrone> zpertee: Have a look at the firmware matrix. 
Oct 03 17:22:45 <widrone> zpertee: unslung is most alike the linksys firmware, olugos is buildt from the ground up and givevs you more flexibilitu (but you need to do more manually to get it wokring)
Oct 03 17:23:01 <widrone> Bear in mind this is a WERY broad generalisation. ;)
Oct 03 17:24:05 <zpertee> widrone: ok thanks for the tips.  I think that I'm going to use unslung it looks like it will be the easiest for me, a newbie, to use.
Oct 03 21:04:57 <Soheil> Samba anyone? :)
Oct 03 21:11:44 <widrone> Soheil: Ill dance, no expert but lets try.  
Oct 03 21:12:17 <widrone> worst case Ill just point you to some samba docs ;)
Oct 03 21:12:56 <Soheil> widrone: Great. I got my samba running nicely..I think the XP is the problem
Oct 03 21:13:24 <Soheil> widrone: I get a msg saying the share is not accessible
Oct 03 21:13:45 <Soheil> turned off xp firewall
Oct 03 21:14:14 <Soheil> opened ports 137-139 udp/tcp + 445 upd/tcp in the router
Oct 03 21:14:17 <widrone> Hm, connecting from windows. My favorite! You set the smbpasswd and a user? 
Oct 03 21:14:23 <Soheil> Yes :)
Oct 03 21:14:26 <Soheil> 2 users
Oct 03 21:14:28 <Soheil> guest
Oct 03 21:14:31 <Soheil> and soheil
Oct 03 21:14:52 <Soheil> I followed the Nslu2 guide line by line...
Oct 03 21:15:10 <widrone> Encrypted? Remeber this used to be a problem source, but that may have been years ago. 
Oct 03 21:15:58 <Soheil> nope, not encrypted
Oct 03 21:17:02 <widrone> What happens if you try to connect with blanc user and no pass, then you should get in as the (whatever user you set in samba config) guest user.
Oct 03 21:17:23 <widrone> It may be nobody in the slugos default smb.conf
Oct 03 21:18:43 <Soheil> The thing is the only place I'm propmted for a user is in the swat
Oct 03 21:18:55 <Soheil> I never get propmt when i try to access the nslu2 in the workgroup
Oct 03 21:19:05 <barnseen2o> lol @ windows and samba
Oct 03 21:19:12 <widrone> ah, just refused 
Oct 03 21:19:48 <Soheil> hehe, :) I guess I'm not the first one
Oct 03 21:19:50 <Soheil> http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/diagnosis.html#tmpshare
Oct 03 21:19:56 <Soheil> I'm going through this page at the moment
Oct 03 21:19:56 <barnseen2o> mine randomly stopped working (connecting would take ages)
Oct 03 21:20:08 <widrone> Im on a mac you see, and that usually works. :/
Oct 03 21:20:15 <barnseen2o> i ended up just switching all samba security off and it worked
Oct 03 21:20:31 <barnseen2o> not ideal ;-) but im slack
Oct 03 21:20:40 <Soheil> Hmm, I'm using no secuirty at all at the moment
Oct 03 21:20:55 <barnseen2o> yeah but even with guest shares mine stoped working
Oct 03 21:21:15 <barnseen2o> inexplicably when i moved house, all same kit. just dissasembled and reassembled
Oct 03 21:21:45 <Soheil> Hmm, What does unslung use to communicate with the xp?
Oct 03 21:21:46 <Soheil> samba?
Oct 03 21:21:59 <Soheil> I'm on openslug now
Oct 03 21:22:04 <barnseen2o> depends on what your doing ;-)
Oct 03 21:22:09 <barnseen2o> im debian
Oct 03 21:22:13 <Soheil> was wondering if I could change my way ...
Oct 03 21:22:20 <barnseen2o> want my tweak for the sambaconf?
Oct 03 21:22:24 <Soheil> Sure
Oct 03 21:22:30 <barnseen2o> i found the help in the man samba.conf
Oct 03 21:22:39 <barnseen2o> two ticks i'll echo conf
Oct 03 21:23:18 <Soheil> widrone: I tried to switch to a mac but I couldn't handle the relearning :)
Oct 03 21:23:28 <barnseen2o> err, smb.conf
Oct 03 21:24:00 <widrone> Soheil: What dose /var/log/log.nmdb and .smbd tell you? anything at all 
Oct 03 21:24:35 <widrone> Im on an openslug asw, ran with the stock config with wery few changes
Oct 03 21:25:08 <barnseen2o> http://osix.net/modules/notpb/?id=439
Oct 03 21:25:13 <barnseen2o> thats my smb.conf
Oct 03 21:25:49 <barnseen2o> it has the setting tweaks i made for no security / guest stuff. there may be some odd entries in there, as it got hacked a bit. but it definately works for me
Oct 03 21:26:03 <Soheil> Great, I'll give it a try. Thanks barnseen2o
Oct 03 21:26:45 <Soheil> the log files say things like .../var/log/log.nmdb  "Samba name server NSLU2/OPENSLUG is now a local master browser for workgroup $"
Oct 03 21:27:29 <barnseen2o> you can put the logging up really verbose, although for me it didnt help . it was just hanging on a line
Oct 03 21:28:30 <barnseen2o> it was this in the man for smbconf that inspired my fix ...
Oct 03 21:28:32 <barnseen2o> If the service is marked ``guest only = yes'' and the server is running with share-level security (``security =  share'',  steps  1  to  5  are skipped.
Oct 03 21:28:52 <barnseen2o> when i did that, it all just stopped hanging (for me)
Oct 03 21:28:55 <Soheil> Hmm, I'll give your smb.conf a try, meanwhile i found this in the log files
Oct 03 21:28:56 <Soheil> [2007/10/03 23:02:44, 0] auth/auth_util.c:create_builtin_users(751)
Oct 03 21:28:56 <Soheil>   create_builtin_users: Failed to create Users
Oct 03 21:34:54 <Soheil> sigh I'll give up for now, :) Thanks for the help though
Oct 03 22:40:31 <widrone> Im grilling one of my usb sticks with "badblocks -wvs /dev/sda1" anybody got any tips how to stres test flashsticks for errors? 
Oct 03 22:42:04 <strohi> hdparm -T or something like that?
Oct 03 22:46:58 <widrone> HM, maybe that yes. But that wont test all the bloocks on it I think. 
Oct 03 22:47:54 <widrone> Ill give it a go ayway, when the badblock is done. It lasts a while... 
Oct 03 22:50:08 <strohi> when you test all the blocks you decrease the lifetime of the stick, i think
Oct 03 22:59:15 <widrone> Yeah, am willing to do that thu to make sure its ok. 
Oct 04 01:15:14 <NSLU2-IRC> hi
Oct 04 01:15:30 <mike390> okay... is anyone here not afk?
Oct 04 01:17:27 <mike390> im trying to install unslug, i hav e adrive that has data on it already do i have to format it if i plug it into the nslu 2?
Oct 04 01:21:50 <widrone> mike390: What filesystem is on the disk? 
Oct 04 01:22:00 <mike390> ntfs
Oct 04 01:23:55 <mike390> ?
Oct 04 01:24:27 <widrone> Dont think you can unsling to ntfs no. 
Oct 04 01:25:19 <widrone> Not sure about the filesystem support in the latest unsling, but if it supports ntfs it should work in theory. 
Oct 04 01:25:23 <mike390> like im a bit confused about this process, basically i wanna install unslug, use a usb stick for packages, and i also want to share my ntfs harddisk with the network
Oct 04 01:25:33 <mike390> also which is port 1 and port 2?
Oct 04 01:25:40 <widrone> Ah... I gettit 
Oct 04 01:26:06 <widrone> Yes you can unsling to usbstick and share the ntfs disk. 
Oct 04 01:26:17 <widrone> port 1 is the bottom one. 
Oct 04 01:26:27 <mike390> oh okay
Oct 04 01:26:33 <mike390> thanks!
Oct 04 01:26:53 <widrone> Get yourself familiar with some of the wiki docs befor you start, and read the README! ;)
Oct 04 01:27:20 <mike390> yea im reading the readme, the site is sorta confusing but it basically said read the readme, i already learned how to get into redboot incase stuff goes wrong
Oct 04 01:28:02 <widrone> There is alot of info in the wiki, sometimes it gets confusing with all the old and new info in there. 
Oct 04 01:29:12 <mike390> which do you recommend? also when i try to format the usb stick it says cannot format because its not a harddisk
Oct 04 01:30:10 <widrone> You working from the linksys webinterface? 
Oct 04 01:30:45 <mike390> yea
Oct 04 01:31:41 <widrone>  seem to remember doing the mke2fs from a terminal after getting telnet access. 
Oct 04 01:32:13 <mike390> what would the disk id be? /dev/sda?
Oct 04 01:32:59 <widrone>  That be the first one yes, but do bear in mind I havent run the linksys thingy in years. 
Oct 04 01:33:35 <widrone> Please dont have the disk with your precious data plugged in when playing around ;)
Oct 04 01:40:15 <mike390> okay sorry back
Oct 04 01:41:32 <mike390> im an idiot i really shouldnt be using my wireless to flash firmware >.< *crosses fingers*
Oct 04 01:42:56 <widrone> heh, throwing some dice are we... np, we are all idlers here, jumping in from time to time 
Oct 04 01:43:09 <mike390> YES done
Oct 04 01:43:13 <mike390> lol
Oct 04 01:43:17 <mike390> its rebooting
Oct 04 01:43:24 <widrone> and I havent bricked a nslu yet by a faulty firmware uodate
Oct 04 01:43:41 <mike390> i was kinda scared i would brick it cuz that kinda stuff always happens to me when i first get something new lol...
Oct 04 01:43:48 <widrone> toothpick trick and upslug2 are good friends
Oct 04 01:44:30 <mike390> i got a few other linksys routers i put dd-wrt on thought that this thing would be just as easy... it probaby is its just im nervous about stuff like flashing lol
Oct 04 01:44:53 <widrone> once you get the hang of it you want more 
Oct 04 01:45:17 <widrone> and if you are used to wrt alikes then you will get ahang of this soon enough ;)
Oct 04 01:45:32 <mike390> yea lol... i think i will soon
Oct 04 01:46:01 <mike390> btw which is the  best, right now im using unslug but which other things like debian or openwrt have more features and stuff?
Oct 04 01:47:13 <widrone> Hm, thats a big question really ... http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/FirmwareMatrix (missing wrt thu) 
Oct 04 01:49:31 <mike390> yea... looks like unslug is the easiest
Oct 04 01:49:43 <mike390> i only need a few things im gonna put on it... for now lol
Oct 04 02:01:07 <mike390> how do i list the disks plugged in when im in telnet
Oct 04 02:15:45 <mike390> how do i mount the flash drive to unsling it?  i get an errror that its not mounted when i run /sbin/unsling -nopw disk2
Oct 04 02:24:17 <mwester> mike390:  Then you have some other problem, or a step that you missed -- if done correctly, the flash drive will be automatically mounted.  Also, why are you using "-nopw"?
Oct 04 02:26:51 <mike390> cuz i didnt wanna set a password?
Oct 04 02:27:12 <mike390> lol also it starts a 120 second count down and says: Error: /share/flash/data (disk2, /dev/sda1) is not a mounted disk
Oct 04 02:28:28 <mwester> mike390:  -nopw will leave you with the default Linksys root password -- which nobody (apart from some engineer at Linksys) knows.
Oct 04 02:29:18 <mwester> What size flash device, and did you format it with the NSLU2?
Oct 04 02:29:42 <mike390> i formatted it in the web console
Oct 04 02:30:09 <mike390> its 256 and it was formatted as Formatted (FAT16/32)
Oct 04 02:30:27 <mwester> 256 is too small, did you read the wiki?
Oct 04 02:30:37 <mike390> yea it said at least 256...
Oct 04 02:31:24 <mwester> Can you point me to the page?  (I thought all those references were corrected by now)
Oct 04 02:31:44 <mwester> 512 is the minimum for Unslung 6.8, due to changes in how Linksys formats the device.
Oct 04 02:32:29 <mike390> oh it was in the 6.8 readme actually
Oct 04 02:32:54 <mwester> The README with the firmware says otherwise, but the wiki should have the correct information.  Also there is a section on "Known Problems" that should describe potential pitfalls, that too is mandatory reading before unslinging.
Oct 04 02:33:01 <mwester> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/KnownProblems
Oct 04 02:35:29 <mike390> okay
Oct 04 02:35:34 <mike390> theres a non trivial way for 256?
Oct 04 02:36:26 <mwester> Search and ye shall find...   however, it is not an easy solution.
Oct 04 02:36:40 <mike390> okay
Oct 04 02:36:49 <mike390> 2gb is more than enough right
Oct 04 02:36:53 <mike390> lol
Oct 04 02:38:08 <mike390> is there anyway to make the password not have to have a capital...
Oct 04 02:40:12 <mwester> The uNSLUng password, or the one you select yourself when doing the unsling operation?
Oct 04 02:44:38 <mike390> the one you select yourself
Oct 04 02:45:43 <mwester> You should be able to type anything in for that password; I'm not aware of any restrictions (it might complain about your choice, but it should accept it).
Oct 04 02:50:04 <mike390> okay... also do i have to post in the yahoo group?
Oct 04 02:50:37 <mwester> ?
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