**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 11 02:59:57 2007
Oct 11 03:48:42 <Flipo_> Hello, I followed the instructions to unsling religiously, but it doesn't seem to work, can someone help ?
Oct 11 04:04:22 <Flipo_> anyone ?
Oct 11 05:02:45 <Flipo_> :-/
Oct 11 05:03:56 <Flipo_> :-/
Oct 11 13:54:42 <wally4793> hey anyone here give me some advice?
Oct 11 13:56:47 <wally4793> im planning on using the modified firmware with the automatic spindown included... once i install it does it matter if i actually unsling the nlu2?
Oct 11 13:56:58 <wally4793> and does it matter what ip i set it to?
Oct 11 14:19:39 <barnseen2o> modified firmware?
Oct 11 14:21:27 <wally4793> there is a firmware with the spindown program already included
Oct 11 14:22:07 <wally4793>   unslung-nslu2-spindown-disk1.flashdisk.img
Oct 11 14:22:18 <barnseen2o> i see
Oct 11 14:22:51 <barnseen2o> i havent followed unslung
Oct 11 14:22:56 <wally4793> i have a freecom which doesnt automatically spindown.. was gonna try this one.. 
Oct 11 14:23:02 <barnseen2o> i have the freecom too
Oct 11 14:23:10 <wally4793> you use linkys firmware?
Oct 11 14:23:15 <barnseen2o> debian
Oct 11 14:23:44 <barnseen2o> with the bootstrap method
Oct 11 14:24:21 <wally4793> ah right. Im a bit of a beginner but i had the unslung version once and installed twonkymedia on it. im having to format my hd as it currupted probably cause i knocked it off while it was still spinning
Oct 11 14:24:24 <barnseen2o> mine spinsdown, however i dont bother with a memory stick, and i run irc/torrent on it, so it rarely actually spinsdown ;-)
Oct 11 14:25:10 <wally4793> you download torrents using the nslu2? a bit too advanced for me i just use mine as a media server so i dont have to have my pc on
Oct 11 14:25:27 <barnseen2o> hmm, no im not advanced!
Oct 11 14:25:48 <barnseen2o> mine is samba server to xbox
Oct 11 14:25:58 <wally4793> yeah mine too
Oct 11 14:26:04 <wally4793> thats what i use if for
Oct 11 14:26:04 <barnseen2o> the irc/torrent thing was easy
Oct 11 14:26:12 <barnseen2o> so why twonky?
Oct 11 14:26:25 <wally4793> twonky i used to use for my mp101 b4 i sold it
Oct 11 14:26:32 <barnseen2o> aah gotcha
Oct 11 14:26:38 <barnseen2o> i use firefly/mt-daapd
Oct 11 14:26:40 <wally4793> xmbc is far superior as you know
Oct 11 14:26:58 <barnseen2o> yes its the best piece of software in my house ;-)
Oct 11 14:27:11 <wally4793> does your disc automatically spin down? or does the debian handle that?
Oct 11 14:27:26 <barnseen2o> no i installed a debian package/perl script that does it
Oct 11 14:27:34 <barnseen2o> but my slug is almost always active
Oct 11 14:28:00 <barnseen2o> but if i switch all my services off, i can hear it actually spindown
Oct 11 14:28:11 <barnseen2o> but then iu just start them all back up again ;-)
Oct 11 14:28:40 <wally4793> i have no knowledge of linux hence me being beinnger.. is debian actually a cut doen linux dist?
Oct 11 14:28:42 <wally4793> down
Oct 11 14:28:52 <barnseen2o> not sure about cut-down
Oct 11 14:29:01 <barnseen2o> its just a distro
Oct 11 14:29:03 <wally4793> but it is linux? 
Oct 11 14:29:06 <barnseen2o> yes
Oct 11 14:29:14 <wally4793> so you use it as a computer? 
Oct 11 14:29:27 <barnseen2o> im no expert, i just followed instructions on the nslu2 site
Oct 11 14:29:37 <barnseen2o> yes im typing into a shell on it right now
Oct 11 14:29:45 <wally4793> i tried linux once too complicated for me... i used to use dos but it was years ago
Oct 11 14:29:49 <wally4793> oh kewl
Oct 11 14:30:14 <barnseen2o> well, i mean i have some knowledge. so i can install the stuff i need
Oct 11 14:30:22 <wally4793> is it text based unlike windows?
Oct 11 14:31:05 <wally4793> yeah thats what  imean .. i have no knowledge at the moment. Hopefully when i rescue my drive i can just install the new unslung and my drive will spindown
Oct 11 14:31:07 <barnseen2o> well, i presume you can attach a windowing environment to it, i just use the command line stuff though
Oct 11 14:31:22 <barnseen2o> yeah probly the best option if thats all you want it for
Oct 11 14:32:12 <wally4793> thanx for your help
Oct 11 14:32:18 <barnseen2o> heh, i was help!?
Oct 11 14:32:35 <wally4793> well you showed interest anyway
Oct 11 14:32:38 <barnseen2o> lol
Oct 11 14:32:58 <barnseen2o> its a quiet channel, but if you leave questions and have patience often ppl reply later
Oct 11 14:33:04 <barnseen2o> much later
Oct 11 14:33:19 <barnseen2o> lots of lurkers ;-)
Oct 11 14:33:25 <wally4793> lol people have helped me here b4 when i bricked my slug... so yeah they can be helpful
Oct 11 14:33:40 <barnseen2o> ouch re brick
Oct 11 14:33:54 <wally4793> think ill just try it and see how it goes... my disk is takng hours to format tho.. think it might be knackered
Oct 11 14:34:02 <barnseen2o> i sometimes wake up in a sweat about if my slug died, all the shit i would have to do again to bring it back to current state
Oct 11 14:34:14 <wally4793> i just needed to use serrcomm and it was ok
Oct 11 17:38:39 <PPmarcel> hi
Oct 11 17:38:50 <PPmarcel> once a day my debian is crashing
Oct 11 17:39:28 <PPmarcel> i heard the head readers of my hard disk which swich on, and swich off all the time
Oct 11 17:39:44 <PPmarcel> the only way is rebooting the disk, and the system works again
Oct 11 17:40:02 <PPmarcel> is it form my disk, or from a default task of debian?
Oct 11 17:41:26 <PPmarcel> power management is on, maybe i should cut it down?
Oct 11 17:58:51 <Flipo> Hello, I successfully unslinged my box and installed ssh.  I am not able to log in using the different users I created, I'm only able to log in as root, is this normal ?
Oct 11 18:04:35 <wally4793> hey anyone here fancy giving me a lil bit of advice?
Oct 11 18:06:04 <wally4793> just on the spindown script for the freecom drive?
Oct 11 18:08:02 <mwester> Flipo:  Yes.  The users added by the Linksys web gui do not have shells and/or home directories set (which works fine for Linksys' purposes, but not if you want to log in).  Check the wiki for information on the passwd file (which one to use, for example), and just add home directories and shells as appropriate.
Oct 11 18:12:51 <Flipo> mwester: thanks
Oct 11 18:18:02 <Flipo> mwester: do you happen to know where to set the carachacter encoding ? I have a lot of files with accents and they don't display correctly on the web gui or when I ssh
Oct 11 18:21:18 <mwester> The UI is not localized as far as I know.  You can set the encoding for FAT and NTFS volumes on the Linksys GUI, but see the wiki for known problems and the workarounds.
Oct 11 18:26:42 <Flipo> mwester: all my disks are ext3
Oct 11 18:28:12 <wally4793> where do i copy the spindown program to before installing it? it says to copy to the disk but which section?
Oct 11 18:28:27 <mwester> Ok.  I thought that ext3 uses UTF8 to begin with, so it shouldnt' have any difficulties.  Try switching the encoding at the GUI anyway, and install the kernel-modules (and the script described on the wiki page).
Oct 11 18:29:02 <Flipo> mwester: do you have a link, I searched for encoding on the wiki but didn't seem to find the good link
Oct 11 18:29:32 <mwester> You can find it just by reading the section on known problems - the link should be there.
Oct 11 18:30:39 <Flipo> mwester: thanks
Oct 11 18:32:28 <Flipo> mwester: I assume it's that link : http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/UnslungLanguageSupport ?
Oct 11 18:57:03 <mwester> Flipo:  Yep, that's the one.  You'll need the little shell script for other code pages, replacing "nls_cp850" with "nls_cp<whatever the numeric code is>" as appropriate.  For other than the cp850 code page, you can just use "ipkg install kernel-module-nsl-cp<whatever-number>"
Oct 11 18:58:58 <mwester> You may also need to do ipkg install nslu2-linksys-sambacodepages
Oct 11 18:59:31 <mwester> (basically, language support had to be gutted in order to fit the base Unslung image into the firmware, so you have to add it back in)
Oct 11 19:04:39 <Flipo> mwester: thanks !
Oct 11 20:59:12 <wally4793> anyone here fancy giving me a bit of help installinng the spindown app?
Oct 11 21:06:25 <widrone> wally4793: unslung firmware and what sort of disk? 
Oct 11 21:07:26 <wally4793> im using the latest 6.8 beta... i have a freecom external drive and someone has made a spindown app for it. But you need to mount and copy the file using linux and im on windows
Oct 11 21:08:34 <wally4793> http://vladimir.grouzdev.free.fr/public/spindown/
Oct 11 21:10:43 <widrone> wally4793: Maybe you can use scp to get it over from your windows box to the nslu with mounted disk, or am I confused towards your setup now? 
Oct 11 21:11:37 <wally4793> no i think you have it right... what is scp?
Oct 11 21:12:28 <widrone> secure copy, its like machine to machine copy over ssh.
Oct 11 21:13:02 <wally4793> i can access the drive in windows but i dont know where to put the spindown file.. also when i download it it has a .txt file extension.. is this normal?
Oct 11 21:13:06 <widrone> All that you need here is getting the app onto the nslu, right? 
Oct 11 21:13:18 <wally4793> i think so
Oct 11 21:13:52 <widrone> try wget from the commandline maybe, if you have terminal (telnet/ssh) access to the nslu 
Oct 11 21:14:08 <widrone> "wget http://vladimir.grouzdev.free.fr/public/spindown/bin/spindown" 
Oct 11 21:14:41 <wally4793> i can get telnet ... is that what i write? wget then the webaddress?
Oct 11 21:14:56 <widrone> Im reading thru the webpage, just gimme some minutes (got something in the back here) ;)
Oct 11 21:14:56 <wally4793> ill try that
Oct 11 21:15:10 <wally4793> ok thanks
Oct 11 21:15:17 <widrone> try to do "cd /opt/" then the wget command 
Oct 11 21:16:51 <wally4793> ok ill try it
Oct 11 21:18:15 <widrone> you may need to set the program executable after the wget download 
Oct 11 21:18:38 <widrone> as in something like "chmod 555 /opt/spindown" 
Oct 11 21:18:58 <widrone> Im unsure if /opt if the place to put this, im just running off the webpages hints here. 
Oct 11 21:22:46 <widrone> As in there may be a more "proper" place in the unslung filesystem it belongs, but its probably ok to have it in /opt to make sure it works for now. 
Oct 11 21:24:07 <widrone> I notice that page got unslung binarys with the app loaded, is that ok with intel vs their license thingy I wonder. 
Oct 11 21:24:35 <wally4793> wget command isnt working i dont think my slug can acces the net :-(
Oct 11 21:24:43 <wally4793> will check the dns
Oct 11 21:24:55 <widrone> And come to think of it, that app should be in the feeds. Gotta check and see if it is. 
Oct 11 21:25:47 <widrone> wally4793: Or you could dl to the win pc and put it on the unslung disk over the samba share, then login and move it like the webpage tries to tell I think. 
Oct 11 21:26:23 <eno> widrone: it's not legal to offer unslung image without click-thru, so someone needs to warn that vladimir
Oct 11 21:26:38 <eno> i can add it the the feed very easily
Oct 11 21:27:02 <wally4793> i can move it onto the disk1 or admin1 folders jst using windows but i cant get it opt
Oct 11 21:27:08 <widrone> eno: Thats what I thougth, may be simpler to have it in the feed then letting this chap face off with intel lawyers ;)
Oct 11 21:27:43 <widrone> wally4793: "mv /path/to/admin1/spindown /opt/" or something after you log in. 
Oct 11 21:28:22 <wally4793> ill try that
Oct 11 21:28:26 <janne5011> 04would be vry nice have that spindown as ipkg99
Oct 11 21:29:20 <widrone> The mail address is in the http://vladimir.grouzdev.free.fr/public/spindown/README incase anyone wants to tell him. 
Oct 11 21:29:21 <eno> janne5011 and all: just committed spindown.mk
Oct 11 21:29:44 <eno> expect it to be in the feed in one or two hours
Oct 11 21:29:55 <janne5011> ok nice=)
Oct 11 21:30:00 * widrone gives eno a big cookie for the swift action. 
Oct 11 21:30:15 <wally4793> i get no such file or directory... i cant be puttin the path right. the spindown is in admin1 and disk1 in the root of the disk
Oct 11 21:30:35 <widrone> Ill sip him a mail, even  thu my french is rusty. 
Oct 11 21:30:58 <wally4793> also ive unslung my drive and yet telnet tells me im running from internal flash! :-(
Oct 11 21:31:06 <eno> thx widrone for doing that
Oct 11 21:31:51 <janne5011> wally in that case you cant download anything
Oct 11 21:33:07 <wally4793> why is it booting from flash? ive just tried the unsling command and it tells me im already unslung
Oct 11 21:33:28 <janne5011> reboot and look?
Oct 11 21:33:44 <wally4793> ive tried it. telnet still reports boot from flash
Oct 11 21:34:10 <wally4793> the hard drive has lots of folders now as if the process has worked and yet it boots from flash :-(
Oct 11 21:34:31 <janne5011> then you ned to re-unsling
Oct 11 21:34:47 <wally4793> can you unsling over the top so to speak?
Oct 11 21:35:25 <janne5011> I did so and it worked, what i rember you got notified what to do.
Oct 11 21:35:47 <wally4793> yeah i did.. remove reboot and retry. ill try it
Oct 11 21:37:02 <wally4793> is this why im getting hostname lookup failure?
Oct 11 21:38:12 <eno> wally4793: if you can telnet into it, the network is basically working
Oct 11 21:38:35 <eno> at least using IP address
Oct 11 21:38:57 <wally4793> now its reporting not formatted (it did this b4)
Oct 11 21:39:06 <wally4793> do i have to format again?
Oct 11 21:40:36 <wally4793> my hd is playing up big style. thats why im trying to install the spindown as it get currpted when i switch it off when its mounted
Oct 11 21:43:18 <wally4793> does anyone know a hdd that autospins down as standard?
Oct 11 21:44:00 <widrone> hm, all mine seems to do that. 
Oct 11 21:44:19 <widrone> Dont have a freecom yet, so never tried that. 
Oct 11 21:44:59 <widrone> Im telling the nice fellow to maybe point at the slug-firmware.net instead, and that his software is in the feed. 
Oct 11 21:45:33 <wally4793> mine just stays spinning and gets hot!
Oct 11 21:45:51 <janne5011> I read that if the hd spindown/upt to often lifetime result is lifetime is shorter
Oct 11 21:46:16 <widrone> janne5011: Generally disks tent to like just keep on spinning. 
Oct 11 21:46:17 <janne5011> so if usage/setup is so its stat stop often better let it spin
Oct 11 21:46:37 <wally4793> do most people just leave there hdd s on? does this not use a lot of electricity? spinnig all day 24/7 365?
Oct 11 21:47:45 <janne5011> i thinking uf buying usb sticks  4 gb instead and remove hd:s. they is cheap here in SE now thoose.
Oct 11 21:47:53 <widrone> I accualy hooked up a watt meter to the powerfeed for 4 disks that hang off my usb hub. 
Oct 11 21:48:16 <widrone> Only problem its so close to the floor its impossible to get a readout. :(
Oct 11 21:48:43 <wally4793> im sure its pennies probably easier to leave them on.. and mine is seriously playing up now.
Oct 11 21:49:21 <widrone> wally4793: You were trying out the app, or it just generally is like this? 
Oct 11 21:50:20 <eno> spindown is now in nslu2 unslung feed
Oct 11 21:50:36 <wally4793> the reason o wanted to install it is that i use my slug for media sharing (usualy weekends) and didnt feel the need to run the system all week. But over the past 6 months ive had 2 hdd corruptions losing all my data which i think might be becasue im knocking the hdd off while its spinning
Oct 11 21:56:08 <widrone> wally4793: Now you should be able to install it easier if you manage to control that slug of yours! 
Oct 11 21:56:38 <wally4793> thanks... i use the ipkg update now?
Oct 11 21:56:40 <widrone> wally4793: Im reading back, you restarted and are now running off disk, unslinged? 
Oct 11 21:57:07 <eno> wally4793: make sure your rootfs is on hard disk
Oct 11 21:57:26 <wally4793> im formatting again as when i unplugged the disk it reported not formatted! :-(
Oct 11 21:57:36 <janne5011> never do any ipkg if not unslinged!
Oct 11 21:57:45 <widrone> wally4793: *nods*, yes. ipkg update and ipkg install *app*. ipkg by itself for some more help. 
Oct 11 21:58:37 <widrone> What janne5011 said, that would fill the rootfs in the flash. And I think that is bad. 
Oct 11 22:00:46 <wally4793> ok ill make sure im unslung b4 using ipkg command :-)
Oct 11 22:00:55 <janne5011> =)
Oct 11 22:01:14 <wally4793> might just throw the lot in the bin :-(
Oct 11 22:02:03 <caplink811-log> but you know, that the whole spindown thing only will work with some disk enclosures..
Oct 11 22:02:09 <janne5011> I shall try that spindown at my slug#2 tomorrow. if that not works I give it up.
Oct 11 22:02:40 <widrone> There is always hdparm too I guess. 
Oct 11 22:02:41 <wally4793> the actual disk it mentions in the tutorial is mine freecom (samsung)
Oct 11 22:02:53 <caplink811-log> k
Oct 11 22:03:15 <caplink811-log> morning, btw :)
Oct 11 22:03:32 <janne5011> morning
Oct 11 22:05:05 <widrone> Leaving btscanner running with a class 3 btdongle (100m) gives me creepy info on my neighbours and their friends. I need to add that to my "fav slug thing" list. 
Oct 11 22:05:20 <caplink811-log> ;)
Oct 11 22:06:04 <janne5011> hm BT security...
Oct 11 22:06:52 <widrone> I so dont want to know what the human hosts giving name to "Porn Poutch" and "LillKim" are thinking. 
Oct 11 22:07:47 <janne5011> :s
Oct 11 22:08:57 <widrone> Debian got it in its feed, stumbled upon it there. Its commandline and can be run in a screen. 
Oct 11 22:10:11 <widrone> And its like a bruteforce logger of proximity info. I even pick up cars (bmw) driving past on the road. With timestamps et-al. Its creepy really. 
Oct 11 22:16:08 <wally4793> seems my slug wont boot up using the hdd! always from the flash :-(
Oct 11 22:19:17 <widrone> Did that sound like the .recovery file problem? 
Oct 11 22:20:16 <wally4793> was that for me widrone
Oct 11 22:20:17 <widrone> o scratch that, only for openslug / slugos 
Oct 11 22:21:42 <wally4793> ah well ill try and use it from flash leaving the disk on :-(
Oct 11 22:21:55 <eno> but the bottom part of http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/DiskNotMountedAtBoot offers some tips
Oct 11 22:22:01 <widrone> wally4793: Sorry, it was. But then it was wrong, just hang on... 
Oct 11 22:22:30 <widrone> Mhm, timeout setting. That could be it. 
Oct 11 22:22:49 <eno> does not hurt to check if .recovery presents
Oct 11 22:24:02 <wally4793> what is .recovery?
Oct 11 22:24:08 <wally4793> sorry im a newb
Oct 11 22:24:59 <widrone> Its a file that gets put in the disk / if there was something unclean in reboot. 
Oct 11 22:25:15 <wally4793> oh right ill have a look... where is it stored?
Oct 11 22:25:17 <widrone> If there is a .recovery, the disk will not be mounted basicly.
Oct 11 22:25:38 <widrone> wally4793: The root of the disk, depending on where you mount it ;)
Oct 11 22:25:43 <eno> probably only used in openslug
Oct 11 22:28:27 <widrone> wally4793: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/DiskNotRecognized and pages it links to coulg give some help too.
Oct 11 22:29:05 <yomismo> hi
Oct 11 22:29:25 <widrone> yomismo: Hello you. 
Oct 11 22:30:41 <yomismo> My nslu upgrade does not come into orange ethernet led status green answer to ping and I enter through ssh to installer debian can change the firm?
Oct 11 22:32:16 <widrone> yomismo: You flashed debian installer (di) on the slug and you cant ssh into it? Or you can ssh into it? 
Oct 11 22:34:08 <yomismo> I can
Oct 11 22:35:59 <yomismo> But now I want to flash back and I can not go into upgrade mode
Oct 11 22:36:57 <widrone> Can anyone in the know tell me something about this page: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/SlugOSNativeCompileEnvironment , under "And more notes" there is some blurb about monotone and breakage ahead. 
Oct 11 22:37:28 <widrone> yomismo: Flashing your slug with di should not prevent you from getting into upgrade mode. 
Oct 11 22:37:33 <yomismo> ssh installer@ip slug       It is ok
Oct 11 22:37:44 <widrone> yomismo: You are doing this the toothpick way or with redboot? 
Oct 11 22:38:51 <yomismo> ??
Oct 11 22:40:13 <widrone> yomismo: You want to remove the debian installer again? 
Oct 11 22:40:45 <yomismo> yes
Oct 11 22:41:00 <caplink811-log> yomismo, do you use http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheResetButtonToEnterUpgradeMode or http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TelnetIntoRedBoot ?
Oct 11 22:42:01 <yomismo> the reset button dont work
Oct 11 22:42:39 <yomismo> after 10 seconds its orange no green
Oct 11 22:44:18 <yomismo> Firmware DebianSlug-3.10-beta want to install manual debian
Oct 11 22:45:51 <widrone> yomismo: My advice is really to try a couple of more times, press-hold-release on light change... what ever the color is. Try removing power completly too for about 10 sec, just to be safe. 
Oct 11 22:46:27 <Lunar_Lamp> I had debian running nicely on my slug a while back, but had to take it apart for various reasons.
Oct 11 22:46:28 <mwester> The color change is different on newer units, it is very subtle.  You may need to dim the room lights to see the change from orange to darker orange.
Oct 11 22:46:47 <Lunar_Lamp> I now cannot remember which port I had my hdd connected to.
Oct 11 22:46:54 <mwester> But the reset button method to enter upgrade mode *always* works (unless you have hardware failure)
Oct 11 22:47:03 <Lunar_Lamp> If I guess wrong is it A Bad Thing?
Oct 11 22:48:06 * caplink811-log thinking, that it only wont work as expected
Oct 11 22:48:25 <Lunar_Lamp> ok, I can deal with that
Oct 11 22:48:29 <Lunar_Lamp> I just didn't want to screw it up
Oct 11 22:48:31 <yomismo> telnet 100.90.80.14 9000 Trying 100.90.80.14...telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
Oct 11 22:48:56 <widrone> yomismo: That is you trying to get into redboot? 
Oct 11 22:50:08 <yomismo> ARPING 100.90.80.14 from 100.90.80.15 eth0 Unicast reply from 100.90.80.14 [00:18:39:A5:6F:A1]  0.783ms
Oct 11 22:50:51 <yomismo> yes
Oct 11 22:52:21 <yomismo> Debian can be installed with the automatic installer?
Oct 11 22:53:08 <widrone> yomismo: I was under the impression thet the redboot ip was hardwired to 192.168.1.2 
Oct 11 22:53:15 <caplink811-log> but within the reset/restart phase the nslu listen on 192.168.0.1 port 9000 and this is the socket where you can catch the redboot prompt
Oct 11 22:53:46 <widrone> yomismo: .0.1 was the one. FOrget my IP and listen to caplink811-log . ;)
Oct 11 22:53:56 <caplink811-log> :), np
Oct 11 22:56:24 <yomismo> I have to put this range of ip
Oct 11 23:03:24 <widrone> yomismo: Only way to get into redboot is at its fixed ip 192.168.0.1 (port 9000). Its not possible to change. 
Oct 11 23:04:06 <yomismo> ok
Oct 11 23:04:38 <yomismo>  	
Oct 11 23:04:39 <yomismo> I am in it
Oct 11 23:04:58 <caplink811-log> so you have to change/add (depends on your workstation os) the ip of your workstation to something like 192.168.0.2
Oct 11 23:05:17 <caplink811-log> forget me....
Oct 11 23:05:54 <widrone> caplink811-log: You are the one with a -log suffix, you forget it :P
Oct 11 23:23:27 <yomismo> i will sleep   tomorrow  more     thksss
Oct 11 23:26:19 <widrone> I installed libxml2 -dev -doc and -utils, still I get this error "configure: error: libxml2 not found" when running a configure script. 
Oct 11 23:27:46 <widrone> Wierdness, but Ill install libxml2 from the "other feed" aswell, maybe that should work. 
Oct 12 00:06:24 <ishtarrr> guys, i tried to put debian on my slug, but after i flashed it, and plugged the harddrive in, the light never went green, and even after nearly an hour it never beeped. I can't ssh into it, and it doesn't get an ip. I plugged it into my computer like if i were flashing it, and i can ping it there, but not ssh into it
Oct 12 00:07:00 <ishtarrr> i un-tarred the the image directly to /dev/sda1, and made it bootable
Oct 12 00:09:50 <widrone> ishtarrr: Not installing it from di then I guess, you are using this "workaround method"? 
Oct 12 00:10:03 <ishtarrr> not the installer, they said it was broken
Oct 12 00:10:13 <ishtarrr> im using this :
Oct 12 00:10:14 <ishtarrr> http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/unpack.html
Oct 12 00:10:40 <ishtarrr> i dont think its scanning my disk, either, the lights barely blinking
Oct 12 00:10:46 <ishtarrr> i put it in port 1.
Oct 12 00:11:57 <widrone> Never tried that method myself. What was supposed to happen? A ready installed system with debian? 
Oct 12 00:12:14 <ishtarrr> its supposed to restart, beep a few times, and then you should be able to ssh into it
Oct 12 00:13:47 <ishtarrr> after about 10 minutes, it beeps once and just sits there
Oct 12 00:15:28 <widrone> Hm, I got a workaround for the installer bug... but that seems a bit late for you now, unless you want to start over. 
Oct 12 00:15:45 <ishtarrr> i dont mind restarting
Oct 12 00:16:00 <ishtarrr> i reflashed/untarred this thing about 6 times already :(
Oct 12 00:16:19 <widrone> ishtarrr: Try this hint: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-arm@lists.debian.org/msg07128.html
Oct 12 00:16:48 <widrone> Supposedly lets you use the di the way its supposed to work, you can do the regular install that way. 
Oct 12 00:17:21 <ishtarrr> :) thanks!
Oct 12 00:18:14 <widrone> ishtarrr: Ping back if it works as supposed will ya? One day Ill update the wiki pages with it :)
Oct 12 00:18:31 <ishtarrr> :) i will.
Oct 12 00:18:43 <ishtarrr> i hope nobody has to do what i just did for the past 2 hours 
Oct 12 00:19:15 <redeeman> hello
Oct 12 00:19:19 <ishtarrr> hi
Oct 12 00:19:25 <redeeman> anyone that is running slimserver on an nslu2?
Oct 12 00:21:39 <widrone> redeeman: Does this help? http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Applications/SlimServer
Oct 12 00:22:40 <redeeman> i got a question though
Oct 12 00:22:52 <redeeman> can one normally just log into the nslue2 via telnet or ssh?
Oct 12 00:24:15 <widrone> redeeman: You mean out of the box with the linksys firmware? 
Oct 12 00:24:19 <redeeman> yes
Oct 12 00:24:37 <redeeman> that's kindof my question, if this requires installation of other OS
Oct 12 00:24:48 <widrone> redeeman: Dont think you can, no. Then again Im not the one to ask about the stock firmware ;)
Oct 12 00:25:07 <redeeman> don't get me wrong, it's not a problem if all i need do is install other firmware
Oct 12 00:25:20 <redeeman> i just wish to know as much as possible before buying
Oct 12 00:25:28 <redeeman> it's for my brother, and the only purpose would be slimserver
Oct 12 00:26:35 <widrone> redeeman: Aha, I see. Yes, some modifications will have to be done. Known as unslinging... 
Oct 12 00:27:24 <widrone> redeeman: I dont know this slimserver myself, but it seems like a "heavy" app, have a look here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=15491&page=1
Oct 12 00:28:24 <redeeman> slimserver is a streaming server written in perl, which indexes all your music, and streams to the squeezebox
Oct 12 00:28:41 <redeeman> i would imagine it may take some cpu power if one has a huge collection
Oct 12 00:32:17 <widrone>  would worry more about ram vs db size with huge collections. 
Oct 12 00:35:37 <redeeman> i guess i need a slightly larger device
Oct 12 00:35:44 <redeeman> anyway, i gotta sleep now
Oct 12 00:35:49 <redeeman> thanks for your help
Oct 12 00:41:48 <widrone> redeeman: The slug is the silent candidate atleast ;)
Oct 12 00:48:34 <ishtarrr> i set it to make a 300gb partition
Oct 12 00:48:40 <ishtarrr> and its been stuck at the same % for a while now
Oct 12 00:48:43 <ishtarrr> should i start over?
Oct 12 01:10:45 <ishtarrr> oh god
Oct 12 01:10:51 <ishtarrr> all of a sudden, it disconnected
Oct 12 01:10:55 <ishtarrr> now its refusing connections
Oct 12 01:17:45 <mwester-laptop> ishtarrr: what is "it"
Oct 12 01:18:23 <ishtarrr> the debian installer
Oct 12 01:19:40 <mwester-laptop> ishtarrr: there are known issues with the debian installer and formatting of large partitions -- the device needs more memory than it has, so you need to enable swap.
Oct 12 01:20:11 <ishtarrr> i tried making a swap partition, but i guess i have to enable it somehow?
Oct 12 01:20:18 <mwester-laptop> If you cannot find information on the wiki (see topic for link), then perhaps the debian-arm IRC channel can help?
Oct 12 01:20:35 <ishtarrr> well, can i partition the disk without the installer?
Oct 12 01:21:19 <mwester-laptop> I don't use debian, so I am not particularly knowlegable about that installer.  I think you can partition and format the disk with another linux system.
Oct 12 01:21:42 <widrone> ishtarrr: Its probably running out of ram, yes. You can drop to a shell and mount the swap from there, in theory .
Oct 12 01:22:02 <ishtarrr> i was just gonna try making smaller partitions
Oct 12 01:22:11 <widrone> That is, ssh into it again and drop to a shell there. 
Oct 12 01:22:41 <widrone> ishtarrr: Now im guessing the sshd has crashed so you need to start over. 
Oct 12 01:23:14 <ishtarrr> yeah, i was gonna start over and try making a 20gb partition, and a 1gb swap
Oct 12 01:23:26 <ishtarrr> then, once its running, use fdisk and partition the rest
Oct 12 01:24:36 <widrone> ishtarrr: Good idea yes, its mke2fs that needs a bit of ram so it helps having swap around. 
Oct 12 01:24:52 <ishtarrr>  partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3   
Oct 12 01:24:58 <ishtarrr>  partition #2 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap
Oct 12 01:25:01 <ishtarrr> why are they both sda?
Oct 12 01:25:07 <ishtarrr> shouldn't they be sda1 and sda2?
Oct 12 01:27:09 <widrone> what is telling you this? that partman thingy? 
Oct 12 01:27:15 <ishtarrr> yeah
Oct 12 01:27:35 <ishtarrr> if it doesnt work this time around, ill just try partitioning it on my computer
Oct 12 01:27:41 <ishtarrr> oh hey, it worked
Oct 12 01:27:55 <eno> what does "fdisk -l /dev/sda" tell you?
Oct 12 01:28:19 <ishtarrr> Unable to open device /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: partitioning scheme not recognised
Oct 12 01:31:54 <ishtarrr> i just plugged it into my computer, and it says the whole disk is blank 
Oct 12 01:32:00 <ishtarrr> i guess ill just partition it here and try again
Oct 12 01:59:14 <ishtarrr> oh man
Oct 12 01:59:20 <ishtarrr> its installing the base system
Oct 12 01:59:24 <ishtarrr> but not asking me which kernel
Oct 12 01:59:44 <ishtarrr> will it ask me afterward?
Oct 12 02:09:21 <widrone> "4.0r2 is scheduled for the first or second week of October." says a mail, all this hassle may be over soon. 
Oct 12 02:09:36 <widrone> ishtarrr: I think its later in the install proces, yes. 
Oct 12 02:09:59 <ishtarrr> okay, cause i wouldn't want this running for the 2 hours or so it will take, and then have it say it cant find the kernel
Oct 12 02:10:05 <ishtarrr> :) thanks
Oct 12 02:10:30 <widrone> ishtarrr: you get your money back if Im all wrong! 
Oct 12 02:10:51 <ishtarrr> what money :D
Oct 12 02:13:10 <ishtarrr> ugh, i have a feeling it would be right in the beginning
Oct 12 02:13:36 <ishtarrr> wouldn't it have to know, like what architecture you have, to download the packages?
Oct 12 02:13:47 <ishtarrr> ehh, its already half way done, ill just let it go
Oct 12 02:13:49 <widrone> "At the end of the installation, the installer will write the new kernel to flash." 
Oct 12 02:14:01 <widrone> ishtarrr: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/install.html
Oct 12 02:14:06 <ishtarrr> :)
Oct 12 02:14:34 <widrone> However it does not say if you get to choose it at the end, guess you will have to wait and see. 
Oct 12 02:15:10 <ishtarrr> well, you wouldn't have to choose if the installer was working right
Oct 12 02:15:29 <ishtarrr> ehh, who knows, hopefully it will finish before i go to bed
Oct 12 02:15:31 <ishtarrr> and i can see
Oct 12 02:25:30 <ishtarrr> OH YES
Oct 12 02:25:34 <ishtarrr> it let you select the kernel
Oct 12 02:25:36 <ishtarrr> yes yes yes :)
Oct 12 02:26:23 <ishtarrr> widone, i guess the installation works
Oct 12 02:26:36 <ishtarrr> ill tell you once it installs the kernel
Oct 12 02:40:17 <ishtarrr> well, now its flashing the bootloader or what ever
Oct 12 02:40:27 <widrone> ishtarrr: Thanks for the answer, Im off to work now. 0500 start, ugh. Later...
Oct 12 02:40:42 <ishtarrr> :) thanks again
Oct 12 02:53:37 <ishtarrr> Linux SLUG1 2.6.18-5-ixp4xx #1 Sat Jun 2 12:56:45 UTC 2007 armv5tel
Oct 12 02:53:38 <ishtarrr> :)
Oct 12 02:53:41 <ishtarrr> well, the work around works
Oct 12 02:53:56 <ishtarrr> thanks everyone, i can finally sleep easy :)
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