**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 21 02:59:56 2007 Nov 21 10:03:00 hiya also asked this in the dev channel since that seems more related Nov 21 10:03:02 small question, does anybody know how the .xsh scripts listed here: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DS101/DS101BootStrap have been created ? Nov 21 12:30:25 I finally figured it out. My "deactivateview" did a hide of the current view, but "deactiveview" does not only get called when a different tab is activated, but also when a different app (like the screen saver) is activated. Nov 21 12:31:08 solved by calling 'hide' only from the 'activateviewbyindex', not inside the 'viewdeactivated' Nov 21 12:31:14 just so you know. Nov 21 13:04:47 is there a preprocessor directive that tells me what platform I'm building for? Nov 21 13:05:11 (apart from the __WINS__ directive, I'm looking for a FP0/FP1 difference) Nov 21 14:05:33 i purchased a new NSLU2 with a sticker on it saying "manufactured 07/2007": does this mean it already runns at 266MHz? Nov 21 14:25:59 hm. I was hanging in the wrong window. sorry. Nov 21 17:41:02 McSalt1: it's not clear what you mean by "port 6667 seems to be closed" Nov 21 17:41:18 is the ircd process running? Nov 21 17:41:26 does it listen on 6667? Nov 21 17:41:45 it is not listening i think Nov 21 17:42:32 any way to enable the log, make the log more verbose? Nov 21 17:43:00 can you run ircd in the foreground for troubleshooting purpose? Nov 21 17:43:41 no, it can't even run as root Nov 21 17:43:55 i had to create a new user to be able to run the program Nov 21 17:45:33 it says running in background mode from /opt Nov 21 17:46:46 but since the program has no root privileges, it can't acces or open port 6667 i think Nov 21 17:48:42 that should not be the problem, any user can use port > 1024 Nov 21 17:48:56 there is an -foreground option Nov 21 17:49:38 it's running in foreground right know Nov 21 17:49:44 what do i do next? Nov 21 17:51:37 what config file are you using? there's one /opt/doc/ircd-hybrid/simple.conf you can copy/customize Nov 21 17:52:33 i'm using the /opt/doc/ircd-hybrid/simple.conf, do i have to copy it to another folder or just leave it in doc? Nov 21 17:56:34 seems it exits right away Nov 21 17:57:13 the expected result when running in foreground: it should stay running, maybe output something Nov 21 17:58:46 output when i run in foreground: Nov 21 17:58:46 ircd: verdion hybrid-7.2.2 Nov 21 17:58:46 ircd: pid 1445 Nov 21 17:58:46 ircd: running in foreground mode from /opt Nov 21 17:58:46 ircuser@irccom:~$ Nov 21 18:02:52 when i do: ircd --help it, one of the options is "-configfile File to use for ircd.conf" but the original config file is named simple.conf:s Nov 21 18:13:52 McSalt1, 'netstat -alp | grep 6667' should show you if something is listening on port 6667 Nov 21 18:15:03 i think there's something wrong with the current ircd-hybrid package Nov 21 18:15:13 i can't use argument "p" with netstat Nov 21 18:15:41 it seems ircd-hybrid indeed isn't working correctly Nov 21 18:15:43 as soon as it starts, it "cd /opt" Nov 21 18:16:56 i'm going to move the config file to another location Nov 21 18:18:32 doesn' work either Nov 21 18:18:46 don't you know any other packeges to set up an irc server? Nov 21 18:20:04 packages* Nov 21 18:22:46 i'm restarting my slug and i'm going to reinstall ircd, if it still doesn't work, i'm going to use another package Nov 21 18:28:35 it still doesn't work, i removed it completely Nov 21 19:00:54 ash Nov 21 19:13:46 I had debian running on my slug Nov 21 19:14:13 stat_eating Nov 21 19:14:49 It has been dismantled for a while now, and I can't remember which usb port I was using as the "master" port. Nov 21 19:14:56 (i.e. which one I plugged my HDD into) Nov 21 19:15:21 I have mounted the drive on my laptop, but I am unsure how to find which USB port I was using as the master, and believe that this can have an impact on my slug when it boots. Nov 21 19:20:20 caplink811 :) Nov 21 19:24:34 Lunar_Lamp, if it's the only disk i'm not sure that it will matter. you may be able to label them and have them mounted by label in /etc/fstab Nov 21 19:24:44 (i think there is a howto out there) Nov 21 19:24:57 jprind, yes, I could do that, but I was unsure if it would matter if I hooked it up to the wrong one. Nov 21 19:25:10 I know that there are "right" and "wrong" ones for when you're flashing and unslinging etc Nov 21 19:25:43 Lunar_Lamp, if it's the only drive plugged in i can't see why it would matter Nov 21 19:26:07 jprind, fair enough, I'll blame you when things blow up ;-) Nov 21 19:26:32 Thanks though. Nov 21 19:27:18 Lunar_Lamp, blame away. ;P Nov 21 19:27:43 Is there someone who knows other packages than ircd-hybrid for an irc server? I already searched on ipkgfind. Nov 21 19:29:42 ctrlproxy is an IRC server with multiserver support. Nov 21 19:30:13 duno if that is what you looking for McSalt1 Nov 21 19:30:40 jannen, any luck with your slow transfers the other day? Nov 21 19:30:57 that's what's on the site, but i think in reality it's a program to which many users can connect to, the program then works as a gateway for other servers Nov 21 19:32:04 jprind no I tried to install a program to check it out but run into problems with that to , so Im still at the same point Nov 21 19:32:23 McSalt1, I think you should be able to install ZNC onto the slug from source, but I've never done so, and wouldn't be willing to try. Nov 21 19:34:30 jannen, bummer. did you get a chance to try transferring from an nfs export (or ftp, or something other than samba) to another machine? Nov 21 19:34:52 ZNC? maybe i'll try to compile it, but what i want to do is setting up an irc server which listens on a port and people within my network have to be able to access a webpage on the slug with an online irc client Nov 21 19:34:56 no I tried with netio after reading more about this at nslu2-linux site Nov 21 19:35:24 but got problems, but its a network problem of some kind Nov 21 19:36:21 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/SolvePerformanceProblems Nov 21 19:36:31 i think znc is neither what i'm searching for Nov 21 19:36:33 hello Nov 21 19:36:39 hi Nov 21 19:36:43 try to learn from the above page Nov 21 19:36:58 sftp is based on scp, right? Nov 21 19:37:25 but do i get the same low speed of scp? or high speed of ftp? Nov 21 19:37:53 jannen, looks very specific (likely more help than i can be :)) Nov 21 19:38:53 well I got help yesterday from here what to look at:) Nov 21 19:39:17 cant blame samba no more=) Nov 21 19:39:37 PPmarcel, the 's' in the name is for 'secure', meaning that the slug is going to be encrypting and decrypting traffic, meaning probably slowish Nov 21 19:39:51 jannen, glad you're getting somewhere Nov 21 19:39:52 maybe you could choose a different encryption algoritm Nov 21 19:39:57 like bowfish? Nov 21 19:41:25 i used to send files via scp, speeds with me were never faster than 200kb/s Nov 21 19:53:20 yes, it's slowy with sftp :/ Nov 21 19:53:47 McSalt1: yes, that's why i look for a ftp Nov 21 19:54:01 it's fast Nov 21 19:54:50 i now use sftp and it's fast enough, yesterday i sent a 30mb file in 10sec Nov 21 19:55:04 on my slug Nov 21 19:55:22 O_o Nov 21 19:55:26 what is your speed? Nov 21 19:55:32 i was at 900 kos Nov 21 19:55:36 it's slowwww Nov 21 19:56:31 i don't know my exact speed, but i'm behind a router and use ssh2, so 10sec for 30mb is fast enough i think Nov 21 19:56:38 oh yes Nov 21 19:58:25 but i only use my slug in my own network, my internet speed over here (belgium) is too slow to transfer large files from and to my slug Nov 21 20:03:48 tu es wallon? Nov 21 20:04:26 no, flemish, but i can speak a little french Nov 21 20:04:41 it's ok :) Nov 21 20:04:54 are you wallon Nov 21 20:05:01 no, french Nov 21 20:05:13 i tryed vsftpd, but it don't create me a webinterface Nov 21 20:05:15 :/ Nov 21 20:05:35 i think i'll use again pure-ftp, but i don't know if it's a secure server Nov 21 20:05:40 d'accord, peut ĂȘtre on peut parler en français:D Nov 21 20:06:20 if you use ftp, you have to use sftp, ftp is very unsecure, very! Nov 21 20:06:44 i would like Nov 21 20:06:55 but sftp is slow as scp, so i can't tranfer large files :/ Nov 21 20:07:01 *i cry* Nov 21 20:07:32 sftp is (i think) faster than scp, it surely is with me Nov 21 20:07:44 what encryption method are you using? Nov 21 20:07:52 i just look for something which allo me to connect with ftp over the web (for myself only), and something to share my data, like a web ftp server Nov 21 20:08:00 i really don't know :s Nov 21 20:08:03 ^^ Nov 21 20:08:10 ^default Nov 21 20:08:35 what server are you using for sftp? Nov 21 20:08:51 omg Nov 21 20:09:08 ? Nov 21 20:09:23 i use a software for connect on my sftp server, but i think it actually use scp >< Nov 21 20:09:37 that's why i'm slow Nov 21 20:09:47 i haven't got any server :D Nov 21 20:09:55 so you are connecting to an scp server with an sftp client??? strange Nov 21 20:09:59 i just find docs on the web, Nov 21 20:10:17 i'm on windows, with winscp, which allow scp fallback Nov 21 20:10:28 i think it's use scp if it can't use sftp :s Nov 21 20:10:31 shame on me Nov 21 20:10:57 ok, but your target host from which you download files, which server application is it? Nov 21 20:11:19 my nslu2 Nov 21 20:11:29 are you using openssh or dropbear Nov 21 20:11:33 openssh Nov 21 20:11:36 with debian ;) Nov 21 20:11:42 i can't install anything Nov 21 20:11:58 ok,n sftp-server Nov 21 20:12:02 i'll install it Nov 21 20:12:03 ok, did you have to install extra packages to allow file transfer over ssh2, sftp? Nov 21 20:12:37 no Nov 21 20:12:40 nothing Nov 21 20:12:52 i have to say that google don't give me anything this time Nov 21 20:13:05 then i'm afraid you're indeed using scp instead of sftp Nov 21 20:13:12 ^^ Nov 21 20:17:05 err Nov 21 20:17:14 i don't find what package i have to use Nov 21 20:17:42 debian talks about openssh-client O_o Nov 21 20:18:59 if you install openssh (and you already did) you can normally access files via sftp, i had to enable it in my sftp config file Nov 21 20:19:16 ok Nov 21 20:19:29 openssh if in debian default packages Nov 21 20:20:16 you can probably enable sftp, but on older releases of openssh you had to install an extra package for sftp Nov 21 20:21:01 maybe you can take a look on http://www.openssh.org/faq.html Nov 21 20:21:02 ok Nov 21 20:22:11 quote from a forum: "So I need to install OpenSSH server, then how do I configure and set it up? Do I need a separate ftp server? From what I read this is not the case, but I need to enable a sftp service. Nov 21 20:22:11 THANKS! Nov 21 20:22:11 Mitch The only thing that you will need to do is start it, if it isn't running already." Nov 21 20:24:38 humm Nov 21 20:27:48 frustred Nov 21 20:28:09 they all talk about how run sftp-server on a window, or how create an account, but not how launch it!! Nov 21 20:29:01 what does happen when you try to connect via sftp? so when you connect with your client to your slug, probably on port 22? Nov 21 20:29:16 yes Nov 21 20:29:31 what does happen when you try to connect? Nov 21 20:29:33 but i'm on a windows here, i can't try without winscp Nov 21 20:29:37 it works Nov 21 20:29:42 but slow bandwich Nov 21 20:29:48 so i think it's scp Nov 21 20:30:11 i reboot on linux Nov 21 20:30:27 maybe you can try filezilla or something Nov 21 20:31:03 i use filezilla myself Nov 21 20:34:03 ok Nov 21 20:34:12 i'll now try sftpd from console Nov 21 20:34:24 k Nov 21 20:35:09 how i copy on my computer? Nov 21 20:35:27 something like scp, but using sftp? Nov 21 20:37:21 In windows ? Nov 21 20:37:26 linux :) Nov 21 20:37:37 i don't know ftp commands tbh ^^ Nov 21 20:37:50 nevermind, i'll looking on google Nov 21 20:37:55 All you need to know is get and put ;) Nov 21 20:37:59 just use filezilla to access your slug on port 22 Nov 21 20:40:04 completion don't works with get, it get nothing! :p Nov 21 20:40:11 i'll try filezilla Nov 21 20:40:40 You said you couldn't try without winsc Nov 21 20:40:41 scp* Nov 21 20:40:44 it's more user friendly to transfer files than command line Nov 21 20:40:46 But why not try pscp ? Nov 21 20:41:12 yes, or filzilla :) Nov 21 20:41:25 Never used filezilla Nov 21 20:41:26 i didn't tryed bicause i only know winscp Nov 21 20:41:40 Try pscp then :) Nov 21 20:41:48 Like scp for windows Nov 21 20:42:05 but he rebooted in linux, isn't it? Nov 21 20:42:17 Oh, missed that :) Nov 21 20:42:25 well i think he did Nov 21 20:43:03 yes i'm on it :p Nov 21 20:43:05 linux Nov 21 20:43:13 Ah :) Nov 21 20:43:14 btw, what distro do you use Nov 21 20:43:17 ^^ Nov 21 20:43:31 ubuntu on my desktop pc, and debian on the nslu2 Nov 21 20:43:36 irssi works on the slug Nov 21 20:43:47 that's why i didn't disconnected Nov 21 20:44:00 :) Nov 21 20:44:20 Still need to setup my new slug Nov 21 20:44:49 i only own one, but i'dd like to buy another one Nov 21 20:45:11 I got on yesterday, didn't got it to work yet :p Nov 21 20:45:35 McSalt1: are you limited by money? Nov 21 20:45:47 you should look around a soekris Nov 21 20:46:09 :) Nov 21 20:46:13 it cost 50 E than a nslu2, but you have a real embedded device Nov 21 20:46:22 and it's full supported by linux community Nov 21 20:46:31 50 or less, it depend the version Nov 21 20:46:52 Ok, btw, you're using debian, is it fast (because i'm using openslug) Nov 21 20:47:05 yes, i was surprised Nov 21 20:47:12 boot time? Nov 21 20:47:20 it use only 6 MiB at first use Nov 21 20:47:28 humm less than 1 minute Nov 21 20:47:33 i didn't chrono Nov 21 20:47:51 installation is easy Nov 21 20:47:58 with debian installer Nov 21 20:48:07 openslug boots in 18 to 24 sec with me Nov 21 20:48:14 The debian installer works ? Nov 21 20:48:47 in fact, the only thing whoch is brocken with debian installer, is the link to the kernell Nov 21 20:48:47 i didn't want to use it because i thought it was to heavy Nov 21 20:48:50 not updated Nov 21 20:49:06 but you can select the new kernell manually at the installation Nov 21 20:49:14 Hmm Nov 21 20:49:22 I tried to do it all manually, like the page said Nov 21 20:49:32 McSalt1: debian fix all things which are not totally adapted for openslug Nov 21 20:49:46 yes, manuall install could works too Nov 21 20:50:07 i upgraded to lennie, because version of rtorrent wasn't able to handle encryption :x Nov 21 20:50:19 and packages are frozed in etch Nov 21 20:50:59 it indeed fixes a lot of things, but i think the specifications of the device are just less too low to run debian, maybe i'll try, once, but till now almost everything works perfect Nov 21 20:51:00 expect security issues, ofc Nov 21 20:51:19 as everybody says: it depend what you run on it Nov 21 20:51:34 standart installation use 6MiB as i said you Nov 21 20:51:39 Irssi / rtorrent will run fine :) Nov 21 20:51:45 yes :) Nov 21 20:52:12 i took a look on google for that soekris device, looks interesting Nov 21 20:52:16 do you own one? Nov 21 20:52:33 i'm using 13MiB at this time, and debian system use 586 MiB on my disk :) Nov 21 20:52:51 nop, but a friend want to get one, that's why i know it Nov 21 20:53:14 and it's very interesting, but i needn't it now, even if the nslu2 is limited Nov 21 20:53:47 nslu isn't limited at all i think, but less people see the possibilities of that little device Nov 21 20:54:15 it isn't a monster on speedrecords but it works, and it works verry well Nov 21 20:54:30 Its not made for speed Nov 21 20:54:45 running a weberver use 8 MB, rtorrent around 5, the system use 13, i'm fastly out x_X Nov 21 20:54:55 But it's a great alternative for a low power using mini server :) Nov 21 20:55:01 yes, it's a great engine :D Nov 21 20:55:24 the geek detail: it's powered over usb ^^ Nov 21 20:55:37 did you tryed to remove it power supply? Nov 21 20:55:39 i think that the device's original purpose is less interesting than what we're using the device for today Nov 21 20:56:05 hardly anyone uses it for it's original purpose Nov 21 20:56:10 I think Nov 21 20:56:29 you mean nas function? Nov 21 20:56:34 yep Nov 21 20:56:56 the device is too slow for nas i think Nov 21 20:57:09 if openslug wasn't existing, i couldn't know nlsu2 :x Nov 21 20:57:12 Well it's not really a nas Nov 21 20:57:23 Same here PPmarcel :) Nov 21 20:57:34 it's designed to act as a nas Nov 21 20:57:39 it's the nas for the poor so Nov 21 20:57:53 poors* Nov 21 20:58:23 see you later, i gonna eat (i'm soo hungry :D) Nov 21 20:58:25 i wouldn't say that, but if you're transfering big files it's just too slow Nov 21 20:58:28 ok Nov 21 20:58:31 Ciao Nov 21 20:58:44 a pleasure to talk with french people;) Nov 21 20:59:20 lol, anywhere you come, it's nice to talk with ppl which love linux, i think :) Nov 21 20:59:25 French ? Mon dieu Nov 21 20:59:30 ah :) Nov 21 20:59:46 I'm dutch :) That counts a bit ;) Nov 21 20:59:46 PPmarcel, ca fais pas trop americain je trouve Nov 21 20:59:57 hehe Nov 21 21:00:06 quand tu es en belgique, tu doit me dire Nov 21 21:00:45 no, i mean nationality don't count over internet :) Nov 21 21:01:08 As long as they speak a language we all can understand ;) Nov 21 21:01:14 :) Nov 21 21:02:04 Nationality doesn't count, agreed, but it's nice to understand eachother Nov 21 21:03:31 that's why we aren't talkin french right now Nov 21 21:03:55 i'm still searching for a piece of software to act as an irc server Nov 21 21:04:40 ircd ? Nov 21 21:04:55 i tried it but it won't work Nov 21 21:05:20 What problems did you have Nov 21 21:06:53 what i want to do is creating an irc server with a webserver on the slug so i can connect to the irc server directly with thttpd, when i install ircd, and run it as another user than root, it says it's started but nothing happens Nov 21 21:08:53 port 6667 is still closed, although it's configured in the conf file. but when i do /ircd --help, there's an argument "-configfile file to use for ircd.conf" but the originaly file is in /opt/doc/ircd-hybrid as simple.conf Nov 21 21:11:42 do you have any suggestions? Nov 21 21:11:44 hm, ircd -configfile /opt/etc/ircd-hybrid/simple.conf ? Nov 21 21:12:08 no /opt/doc/simple.conf Nov 21 21:13:10 hm, ircd -configfile /opt/doc/ircd-hybrid/simple.conf ? Nov 21 21:13:32 as you describede thepath before.... Nov 21 21:14:00 s/thepath/the path/ Nov 21 21:14:01 caplink811_ meant: as you describede the path before.... Nov 21 21:14:30 i tried that, but it stays the same, even when i do ircd -configfile /doesnotexists.conf it doesn't say it doesn't exists Nov 21 21:15:14 hm, then i dunno...i#m not at home atm Nov 21 21:15:25 np, although thanks Nov 21 21:16:00 it has to work, so it'll probably work, wheter it works with ircd or another program Nov 21 21:16:08 whether* Nov 21 21:25:11 ircd hybrid works, it ran some times ago on one of my slugs Nov 21 21:25:37 do you remember how you got it working? Nov 21 21:26:32 imho out of the box, but doing some research on the ircd homepage... Nov 21 21:26:52 i'm using http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/details.php?package=ircd-hybrid&id=12791919&official= and i'm trying to get it work on openslug Nov 21 21:27:10 i've read almost everything on the entire webpage about ircd Nov 21 21:27:36 * caplink811_ thanks god for being nota soccer fan Nov 21 21:27:52 :) Nov 21 21:28:08 you hav openslug yourself? Nov 21 21:28:35 this may be the difference, myself trying the optware package Nov 21 21:29:03 i also used the optware package Nov 21 21:30:13 i don't know,that the behaviour is realy the same Nov 21 21:30:24 it seems not Nov 21 21:30:48 eno should known this exactly Nov 21 21:31:11 eno, are you there? Nov 21 21:31:11 optware on openslug Nov 21 21:31:38 i had to use the optware package, there isn't any openslug package avaible Nov 21 21:32:33 * caplink811_ is heading to bed now Nov 21 21:32:38 maybe i can compile it myself from source but i'm not used to that Nov 21 21:32:40 ok Nov 21 22:05:05 i got to go Nov 21 22:05:08 thanks for the help Nov 21 22:08:57 How do U set paths in Unslung? Nov 21 22:54:55 anyone here? Nov 21 22:55:41 chib, Nov 21 22:55:48 What do you mean "how do you set paths"? Nov 21 22:55:51 What are you trying to do? Nov 21 22:56:05 Do you want to add some new directory to your $PATH variable? Nov 21 22:58:09 yes pls Nov 21 22:58:28 Is it just for one user or all users? Nov 21 22:58:59 all users Nov 21 22:59:49 Is bash the shell used in unslung? Nov 21 23:00:01 (I don't have unslung to hand I;m afraid - I have debian on my slug now) Nov 21 23:02:06 Unless the use has installed and configured bash, it's the busybox "ash" shell. Nov 21 23:02:13 s/use/user/ Nov 21 23:02:13 mwester meant: Unless the user has installed and configured bash, it's the busybox "ash" shell. Nov 21 23:02:23 Thank you, cabot. Nov 21 23:03:46 If the need is to have /opt/bin in the path, then the correct solution is just to install openssh, and use an SSH client instead of Telnet -- openssh will take care of ensuring that the path is correct, and that the terminal type is defined. Nov 21 23:04:04 So just do as the README suggests, and all is well for most every user's needs. Nov 21 23:08:51 What mwester said - I was going to do it a more "standard" way and not tailored to specific unslung needs. Nov 21 23:10:39 Dont worry guys I think I ve sorted it out cheers for your help Nov 21 23:10:59 All I did was updating my Busybox **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 22 02:59:56 2007