**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 26 02:59:57 2007 Nov 26 08:53:24 PPmarcel hi =) Nov 26 08:53:37 did u ever get to compilate rtorrent? =D Nov 26 16:42:11 hello digii Nov 26 16:42:17 hi Nov 26 16:42:29 i found that http://www.coutts.plus.com/rtorrent_nslu2/ Nov 26 16:42:35 but i didn't tryed yet Nov 26 16:42:48 ok =) cool ;D Nov 26 16:43:00 it seems that CXXFLAGS is a shell command or something like that Nov 26 16:43:08 it's not an option for compile Nov 26 16:44:18 seems tricky to get it to work? Nov 26 16:45:12 i will download rtorrent on this website and install it Nov 26 16:45:23 and remove these which are installed on the slug before Nov 26 16:45:50 plz tell me how u did and if it worked :P Nov 26 16:47:05 you just paste CXXFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=xscale -mtune=xscale" in your console Nov 26 16:47:31 and you try to install rtorrent and libtorrent of the website Nov 26 16:47:46 they have compiled it with that Nov 26 16:47:49 i think -_- Nov 26 16:48:02 i don't get everything ^^' Nov 26 16:48:38 hehe ;) Nov 26 16:48:46 same here so ;) Nov 26 17:07:30 it's installed, i test now :) Nov 26 17:33:39 can I backup my nslu2 disk with windows Nov 26 17:33:43 by like making an image Nov 26 17:35:30 or possibly with a live cd Nov 26 17:55:50 I like DriveClone google for farstone +DriveClone. think you can do this from the slug to check out the dd-command. only problem with driveclone is - you must pay for it.:P Nov 26 17:56:25 Drj suppose you mean clone it? Nov 26 17:59:24 30-day trial http://www.farstone.com/software/driveclone.htm :) Nov 26 18:09:54 yea Nov 26 18:50:30 you could use everything that do a bitwise copy, dd or any windoze application Nov 26 18:58:23 jannen: So you suggest taking an open-source, non-proprietary disk format, ignoring all of the open-source, non-proprietary tools for backing it up, and using a closed, purchased application instead? Nov 26 19:08:20 any recommendations on opensource ones? Nov 26 19:08:51 * DrJ needs to do this soon Nov 26 19:08:58 * DrJ is not liking the sounds the drive makes Nov 26 19:09:01 DrJ: There is no boot record to worry about on nslu2 disk devices, so any Linux tool that copies data faithfully will do. Nov 26 19:09:14 I've used "tar" to backup and restore an Unslung system. Nov 26 19:09:33 will that save the file permissions and stuff Nov 26 19:09:38 Yes. Nov 26 19:09:56 cpio will also work (and is how Unslung is actually installed via the unsling script) Nov 26 19:10:41 Just don't use the busybox versions of those tools; try to install the real tar tool. I think the real cpio is already installed. Nov 26 19:11:09 hmm, could I cpio to a network share on this PC? Nov 26 19:12:05 You can also boot up a live CD on your PC, attach the failing drive, and use the PC to do the work (many live CDs will have other tools to do the backup/restore - sysrescuecd springs to mind). Nov 26 19:12:24 I would not do it over the network to a share; too much data and too much possibility of failure. Nov 26 19:12:35 Also, the host PC would be much faster than the NSLU2. Nov 26 19:12:46 I have the ubuntu 7.10 live/install disc Nov 26 19:13:10 I don't know what that has on it; I use Knoppix. Nov 26 19:13:26 is has everything ubuntu comes with Nov 26 19:13:39 I have knoppix also Nov 26 19:13:45 might want to get a newer one though Nov 26 19:13:56 mine is v3.6 Nov 26 19:21:32 mwester Drj asked: "can I backup my nslu2 disk with windows" Nov 26 19:22:57 digii: it didn't work. I will compile my own versions Nov 26 19:28:46 Hi. I added an ntfs drive to my unslung nslu2. I configured it and it worked perfectly but it made my nslu2 freeze sometimes so I reformatted it in fat32. Now It does not get mounted automatically and when I mount it manually I still cannot access it through samba - I get "Network path was not found" error Nov 26 19:29:10 What could I do? Nov 26 19:30:58 Format it ext3 Nov 26 19:31:21 I want to keep it windows readable Nov 26 19:33:18 anyways I heard you should not format both drives in ext3 Nov 26 19:33:44 Rougecitron: That's "natively format", which is different than a simple ext3 :) Nov 26 19:36:05 PPmarcel to bad :( Nov 26 19:37:08 So I cannot make a fat32 disk work on unslung 6.8? Nov 26 19:47:59 Rougecitron suppose you have read about languagesupport use "USA (437) and it works. Nov 26 19:48:13 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/UnslungLanguageSupport Nov 26 19:50:03 jannen: yes I did that, I mnade the whole thing work with an ntfs disk, but since I reformatted it to fat32 it does not work anymore. I mean I can access the disk through the console, but not through samba Nov 26 19:54:30 I got my working as "vfat". if its fat32 I cant remember Nov 26 19:56:41 dont think its fat32. Nov 26 19:57:07 digii: there where some problems with rtorrent on slogosbe? Nov 26 19:57:35 slogosbe? Nov 26 19:57:45 did you used openslug before? Nov 26 19:57:49 before debian Nov 26 19:57:53 no Nov 26 19:57:56 ah Nov 26 19:57:58 jannen: Yes I can mount it, but I cannot access it from the network Nov 26 19:58:04 what did you use? Nov 26 19:58:12 used unslung some time Nov 26 19:58:17 oh ok Nov 26 19:58:19 just as storage and webserver Nov 26 19:58:33 i think i will back to openslug Nov 26 19:59:21 hehe ook :P Nov 26 19:59:33 ill go back to older version i think Nov 26 19:59:41 of rtorrent Nov 26 20:00:15 it won't change anything :D Nov 26 20:00:29 if it works, tell me, i'm interested Nov 26 20:00:32 but i doubt Nov 26 20:00:33 doesnt work on all torrent sites but its stable Nov 26 20:00:42 aabout rtorrent latest ... Nov 26 20:00:56 ah? i crashed here Nov 26 20:01:09 how long time did you ran it? Nov 26 20:01:12 install openslug go here http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Slugosbe and then it works Nov 26 20:01:30 i ran in for month Nov 26 20:01:37 i wanted to build a cross compile tool chain for armv5tel on x86... Nov 26 20:01:38 and got not a singel crash Nov 26 20:01:52 ...but configure of binutils exits with error "machine `armv5tel' not recognized" Nov 26 20:01:56 what's the problem? Nov 26 20:02:01 http://rafb.net/p/5yT2LH89.html Nov 26 20:02:16 digii: with lenny? Nov 26 20:02:20 i don't want to build optware packages btw... Nov 26 20:02:35 ...cuz i'm running debian on my slug Nov 26 20:03:16 PPmarcel, havent tryied it whit lenny doh Nov 26 20:03:58 im running it now. let u know when i get a crash :p Nov 26 20:04:07 ok ^^ Nov 26 20:04:31 î tryed to compile rtorrent with etch too, but it needed too recent tools Nov 26 20:06:32 PPmarcel, doesent seems to crash Nov 26 20:09:57 should i reinstall my system? :p Nov 26 20:12:24 nee Nov 26 20:12:26 no Nov 26 20:12:28 why? :P Nov 26 20:12:35 my rtorrent works fine =) Nov 26 20:12:44 just like it did before i tryed to upgrade it Nov 26 20:13:01 what version is it? Nov 26 20:13:22 0.6.4 Nov 26 20:13:29 ge one u get whit etch Nov 26 20:13:29 ... ^^ Nov 26 20:13:40 and why did you upgraded for lenny? Nov 26 20:14:56 coz i got a torrentsite that only takes the newest version of rtorrent Nov 26 20:15:23 guess i just hafto forget that account :d Nov 26 20:15:32 lol ok :p Nov 26 20:15:51 i as looking for v 0.7.x, because of encryption Nov 26 20:15:57 theses version crash Nov 26 20:16:08 0.6 are fine Nov 26 20:16:22 ok =) Nov 26 20:18:11 ill try to trade of that account for a site that accepts rtorrent 0.6.X Nov 26 20:18:13 :P Nov 26 21:09:01 could anyone help me. I cannot find a solution. I mounted a fat32 disk (that works), but I get " Network path was not found" error when trying to access from windows Nov 26 21:11:10 Rougecitron: What firmware? How did you mount it? Nov 26 21:12:21 mwester: unlsung 6.8, I used a diversion script to mount it at boot Nov 26 21:14:15 Ok. If it's FAT32, why are you using a diversion script? Nov 26 21:15:26 mwester: First I formatted the drive in ntfs, it worked well but the nslu2 froze when writing. Then I reformatted the disk but it would not mount at boot anymore Nov 26 21:15:51 Rougecitron: You need to figure out why it isn't mounting at boot, and fix that. Nov 26 21:15:53 so I used rc.samba to mount it Nov 26 21:16:09 I don't know where to look Nov 26 21:16:16 If you mount it by yourself, then you are responsible also for making sure that it is exported via samba, and that is much work. Nov 26 21:16:58 I had installed samba3 and it worked with ntfs Nov 26 21:17:35 So you've installed a newer samba, too? Nov 26 21:18:21 yes :), as I said everything worked fine when the drive was ntfs formatted Nov 26 21:18:29 The original device, as first unslung, supports both NTFS and FAT disks (althought the LInksys driver will crash on NTFS). There's no need to upgrade anything, it just makes it more difficult to support! Nov 26 21:19:03 All I can suggest is that you examine /var/log/messages to see if there are any hints about what is wrong. Nov 26 21:19:43 It should (out of the box) be mounting the disk, then sharing it via samba as HDD_1_1_1 or similar. Nov 26 21:20:22 mwester: I checked but can't see anything wrong, except perhaps VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sd(8,17) Nov 26 21:21:23 Well, is the partition mounted? What does "mount" say? Nov 26 21:21:53 yes the partition is mounted, it's mounted in /unslung/rc.samba Nov 26 21:22:01 Where is it mounted? Nov 26 21:22:29 I mounted it on /share/hdd/data/hddfat Nov 26 21:22:52 and have you added extra code to make sure that samba exports it from there? Nov 26 21:23:33 I kept the smb.conf file used before when it was still ntfs Nov 26 21:23:44 I don't know what that means. Nov 26 21:24:17 Are you saying that the ntfs volume was also mounted on /share/hdd/data/hddfat? Nov 26 21:24:33 no I changed that part Nov 26 21:24:51 Did you change the samba smd.conf file to match your new changes, then? Nov 26 21:24:55 it was mounted on /share/hdd/data/HD_1_1_1 Nov 26 21:25:03 Yes, exactly my point. Nov 26 21:25:36 You are subverting the entire Linksys automatic mounting and sharing mechanism, and if you do that for one portion of it, you must add the code yourself to do the entire thing. Nov 26 21:26:01 Why would the Linksys code know to look at /share/hdd/data/hddfat? Or know that you have mounted something there? Nov 26 21:26:18 the smb.conf seems correct, I will try to change the directory Nov 26 21:27:21 Either revert to the original way that Linksys intended for it to work, or replace the entire mechanism. Follow the example in the wiki for how to handle an ext3 disk on Unslung, except modify it to handle the fat32. The steps are largely the same. Nov 26 21:27:48 I copy/pasted the path I have in smb.conf to the shell, it seems to be correct Nov 26 21:28:12 Follow the example in the wiki for how to handle an ext3 disk on Unslung, except modify it to handle the fat32. The steps are largely the same. Nov 26 21:28:30 mwester: ok I will try, thx Nov 26 21:29:51 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/NonNativeDiskMount Nov 26 21:32:15 hey guys Nov 26 21:32:44 couple of quick questions if anyone is about? Nov 26 21:34:24 ~ask Nov 26 21:34:24 it has been said that ask is Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. Nov 26 21:36:27 ~botsnack Nov 26 21:36:28 :), Reedy_Boy Nov 26 21:36:59 Clever capbot ;) Nov 26 21:38:06 ha good stuff, sorry was just making a cuppa..... I have got nslu2 on order, and obviously wanting to flash, if i flash do i need to reformat? Nov 26 21:38:25 know that i have to format to use any drive with box (factory default firmware) Nov 26 21:38:26 reformat what? Nov 26 21:38:27 What are you flashing? Nov 26 21:38:33 hdd Nov 26 21:38:44 i thinking of going to unslung? Nov 26 21:39:17 If you have already formatted with the Linksys firmware, there is no need to reformat with Unslung. But it must be either formatted by Linksys, or by Unslung. Nov 26 21:41:15 right ok, that helps. I got ntfs format, would ideally like to be able to use hdd as external for if i need to transport data, whats best format that i can work with with the nslu Nov 26 21:41:42 if your going to want that.. Nov 26 21:41:45 Avoid NTFS with the Linksys native firmware, and with Unslung -- the Linksys NTFS driver will crash the machine. Nov 26 21:42:01 getting a memory stick may be better Nov 26 21:42:16 as it will need itself a partiton for storing files natively. Nov 26 21:43:08 You need to natively format the root device with the Linksys firmware or with Unslung, that is a special set of ext3-formatted partitions, pre-populated with a specific set of files. Nov 26 21:43:17 Nothing else will do, I'm afraid. Nov 26 21:43:41 Your second disk or device can be FAT or ext3, or if you don't mind the device crashing a lot, even NTFS. Nov 26 21:43:53 ^What i was meaning - If you want the drive in a windows play nice format, get a flash drive for the unslinging Nov 26 21:45:08 no probs. just finding out options at mo before i flash or decide anything ;)..... ill obviously stear clear of ntfs, saw that the driver was unstable. yea thats what i heard you can do, have a usb flashdrive on usb port1 a,d then hdd on usb port 2.... no way of having 2 hdds on working at same time yet? Nov 26 21:45:22 (with usbport1 hdd being unslung native format) Nov 26 21:45:43 Yeah, you can Nov 26 21:45:56 (2 HDD's) Nov 26 21:46:06 That is just the outdated linksys spec isnt it mwester ? Nov 26 21:47:03 from what i read, ppl have been using hubs but didnt think you could have devices opperating at same time? Nov 26 21:47:59 hubs is a different story Nov 26 21:50:01 right, dont wanna go down that route yet, what i interested so far is having native hdd with unslung etc on, say 40GB drive, and then main hDD, say 500Gb..... that supported now? Nov 26 21:50:35 IIRC, yaaa many a person has done that Nov 26 21:51:36 The wiki is your friend! Here's what a stock, standard Linksys R63 firmware does: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/R63DiskBehaviour Nov 26 21:52:33 cheers guys, i did read wiki, but i have read lots about how only flashdrive was supported on usb1, and knew that work would surely have been done on that Nov 26 21:52:35 This is the definitive reference to the developer's recomendations on which port and device to unsling to, and in what conditions you would select another port: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/WhichUSBPortforUnslung6 Nov 26 21:53:26 If you're unfamiliar with the terminology, this page is helpful for newbies (but also defines what is the "native" Linksys disk for the not-so-newbies): http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/StorageBasics Nov 26 21:54:06 and don't ever forget this page! :D All the "oopses" go here! :D http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/KnownProblems Nov 26 21:55:18 It's interesting to me that of the 8 items listed as known problems, 6 of them deal with disks and storage. Nov 26 22:01:20 the first point is not a big problem U3 is easy to remove. #2 I use use the Sandisk Mini Cruzer 1.0GByte flash device (with U3 from store) justt remvoed U3 and format in windows then with nslu2 webinterface.. no problem Nov 26 22:05:07 ok, asked in here week or so ago about torrents, what is the web interface like for that? know i can just drop in folder and configure to auto d/l, but web interface would be nice as well Nov 26 22:12:52 daveboy http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentXMLRPCGuide Nov 26 22:14:27 more specific to slug: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RtorrentWithRemoteGUI Nov 26 22:14:40 I dont know but I think becuse you need Lighttpd running for the webinterface it take to much resource for so little. I do without it Nov 26 22:15:19 if its any use to you guys, i found this....http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RtorrentLikeAPro Nov 26 22:16:12 daveboy I seen it. fun and good text he wrote :) Nov 26 22:16:24 :) Nov 26 22:16:45 I mean this http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/ Nov 26 22:16:56 what do you guys all use ure slugs for anyway? Nov 26 22:19:10 "That configuration file is what morphs rtorrent from a mild-mannered, law-abiding console gimmick into an unholy torrent-wrangling banshee." Nov 26 22:19:17 :-D Nov 26 22:20:24 I use my for torrent, unp mediaserver for a d-link mediaplayer, fileshare on ntwork. Nov 26 22:20:41 daveyboy_: rtorrent does not work on unslung Nov 26 22:21:43 gutted. ok thats that out, janen, u said earlier about u3? i found about u2 hacks.... whats u3? Nov 26 22:22:58 u3 is crap they sold to people its diffent apps preinstalled on USB sticks. but they sell thoose usb stick just becase of the. crap. But its easy to remove. Nov 26 22:23:25 oh right, nothing slug related then Nov 26 22:23:28 *they sell its cheap becuse of the preinstalled crap Nov 26 22:23:52 yea got you Nov 26 22:24:42 you need a program to remove it. format want remove the crap. the removal program you can download for free:) Nov 26 22:25:46 its not a prob, can get usb pens cheep enough Nov 26 22:26:07 just wondering on what is best configuration for box Nov 26 22:26:25 yep Nov 26 22:30:30 right thats enough head scratching for tonight. cheers guys Nov 26 22:30:41 cheers Nov 26 22:40:44 a question: In what script do the drives get automatically mounted in unslung 6.8? Nov 26 22:53:27 Rougecitron: No script -- it's a Linksys process that runs that handles all that. Nov 26 23:00:54 mwester: So I don't know why my disk does not mount correctly then at startup Nov 26 23:46:27 is there a way to activate tab autocompletion on unslung 6.8? Nov 26 23:48:16 Rougecitron: ipkg install bash Nov 26 23:48:25 eno: thanks Nov 26 23:50:11 actually optware busybox ash also supports tab completion Nov 26 23:54:12 mwester: I foudn the problem Nov 26 23:55:59 mwester: you should not use the share folder when mounting manually a drive. The permissions are messed up. I use now a mount directory on / which I give admin:everyone permissions Nov 27 00:13:56 ok, last question then I go to sleep. How do you fsck the main disk? can I umount it or should it be done during startup? (unslung 6.8) Nov 27 02:50:03 hey anyone here? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 27 02:59:57 2007