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Nov 27 03:15:20 <eno> ~ask
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Nov 27 18:56:20 <ppmarcel> hello
Nov 27 18:58:19 <PPmarcel> i hav flashed my nslu2 with slugOS, but i can't log in, my password is incorrect :s
Nov 27 18:58:33 <PPmarcel> i tryed opeNSLUg and OpenSlug, but none works
Nov 27 18:58:46 <PPmarcel> someone has got an idea?
Nov 27 19:16:18 <PPmarcel> erf, please, i just wait for the next step of the installation
Nov 27 19:17:04 <treitmayr> you did "ssh root@<your-ip>"?
Nov 27 19:22:01 <PPmarcel> aaaaah
Nov 27 19:22:05 <PPmarcel> tahnk you
Nov 27 19:22:13 <PPmarcel> i forgot root
Nov 27 19:22:44 <PPmarcel> i needed an external view 
Nov 27 19:22:46 <treitmayr> bingo!
Nov 27 19:23:15 <treitmayr> have fun ;-)
Nov 27 19:23:24 <PPmarcel> thank you :)
Nov 27 19:31:48 <eno> PPmarcel: were you trying to get latest rtorrent on debian?
Nov 27 19:32:23 <eno> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/DebianArmEtch
Nov 27 19:42:42 <PPmarcel> it runs ipkg packages on debian? :o
Nov 27 19:43:18 <PPmarcel> i actually just finished to install openslug :D
Nov 27 19:43:49 <PPmarcel> i still dunno what choose between debian or slugos
Nov 27 19:44:36 <caplink811_log> PPmarcel,  you installed debian or slugos?
Nov 27 19:44:46 <treitmayr> one argument for slugos: you can run it without harddisk and swap
Nov 27 19:44:53 <PPmarcel> now, i came back to slugos
Nov 27 19:45:43 <PPmarcel> softwares that i use are on slugos and are recent, so i will saty with that a time
Nov 27 19:46:18 <PPmarcel> stay*
Nov 27 19:46:59 <PPmarcel> but i'm green to have this link just now :)
Nov 27 19:47:39 <eno> slugos is pretty good
Nov 27 19:48:12 <PPmarcel> yes, i just had a problem about colors in console, but it's really minor
Nov 27 19:48:47 <PPmarcel> what is openslug cross native?
Nov 27 19:48:55 <PPmarcel> it's a developement tool?
Nov 27 19:49:07 <eno> where did you see that?
Nov 27 19:49:26 <PPmarcel> in wiki, about openslug installation
Nov 27 19:49:46 <PPmarcel> if i remember, it's a pack of 2GiB or something heavy 
Nov 27 19:49:55 <PPmarcel> maybe i dream ^^
Nov 27 19:50:18 <eno> "cross-native" usually means a cross-built native toolchain
Nov 27 19:50:29 <eno> it should not be THAT big
Nov 27 19:50:43 <PPmarcel> no, i didn't gone until the end :)
Nov 27 19:50:50 <PPmarcel> i can compile packages with that?
Nov 27 19:51:46 <eno> i don't think optware has crosstool-native ipk for slugosbe
Nov 27 19:52:32 <eno> on slugosbe, both cross toolchain and native toolchain were from openembedded
Nov 27 19:53:12 <PPmarcel> ok
Nov 27 20:16:51 <PPmarcel> is it normal that ipkg update is idle?
Nov 27 20:17:14 <PPmarcel> ah it's ok
Nov 27 20:17:22 <PPmarcel> just have to wait some minutes ;)
Nov 27 20:31:56 <PPmarcel> # wget http://build-and-web-server  <-- this server is dead
Nov 27 20:32:11 <PPmarcel> from http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/DebianArmEtch
Nov 27 20:39:17 <DrJ> I think it because they forgot the .com or whatever
Nov 27 20:39:47 <DrJ> oh
Nov 27 20:39:49 <DrJ> ic
Nov 27 20:39:56 <PPmarcel> it's a local server?
Nov 27 20:40:00 <DrJ> its because it wants you to fill in the address there
Nov 27 20:40:42 <PPmarcel> hum what do you mean?
Nov 27 20:40:57 <PPmarcel> of svn server?
Nov 27 21:06:57 <SM_Barbie> Hi.
Nov 27 21:07:12 <marceln> Hi
Nov 27 21:07:15 <SM_Barbie> my slug sometimes fails and I cannot log in to it (password wrong)
Nov 27 21:07:22 <SM_Barbie> I assume it booted without external hdd then
Nov 27 21:07:32 <SM_Barbie> .. but why is the password always wrong?
Nov 27 21:07:43 <SM_Barbie> (default doesn't work, my real one doesn't work either)
Nov 27 21:08:14 <marceln> In that case it uses the flash as root filesystem.
Nov 27 21:08:29 <marceln> With the disk attached it will use the disk as rootfilesystem
Nov 27 21:08:37 <SM_Barbie> yes, I assumed it uses flash
Nov 27 21:08:45 <SM_Barbie> but what happened to my password there?
Nov 27 21:08:57 <marceln> Which firmware?
Nov 27 21:08:58 <SM_Barbie> shouldn't the default pwd work then?
Nov 27 21:09:07 <PPmarcel> try it
Nov 27 21:09:12 <SM_Barbie> OpenSlug 3.10-beta
Nov 27 21:09:16 <SM_Barbie> it doesn't work
Nov 27 21:09:16 <marceln> If you didn't change it.
Nov 27 21:09:28 <SM_Barbie> I don't think I did, no
Nov 27 21:09:38 <PPmarcel> opeNSLUg
Nov 27 21:09:46 <SM_Barbie> tried that
Nov 27 21:09:48 <SM_Barbie> wrong password
Nov 27 21:09:58 <PPmarcel> you loged with root login?
Nov 27 21:10:01 <SM_Barbie> yes
Nov 27 21:10:08 <PPmarcel> try OpenSlug
Nov 27 21:10:20 <SM_Barbie> I will next time it behaves weird :)
Nov 27 21:10:26 <SM_Barbie> didn't try that one I think
Nov 27 21:10:30 <SM_Barbie> but if that also fails
Nov 27 21:10:35 <PPmarcel> i don't think it works
Nov 27 21:10:40 <marceln> You could check it now.
Nov 27 21:10:40 <SM_Barbie> can I mount the flash?
Nov 27 21:10:44 <marceln> One moment please
Nov 27 21:11:02 <marceln> The flash is already mounted under "/initrd"
Nov 27 21:11:24 <SM_Barbie> ah, stupid me
Nov 27 21:12:32 <SM_Barbie> I should be able to chroot there and passwd I guess?
Nov 27 21:13:54 <marceln> You could do something like:
Nov 27 21:13:54 <marceln>   awk '/^root/ {print "t1" $1}' /initrd/etc/passwd  >>/etc/passwd
Nov 27 21:13:54 <marceln> This adds a account t1root to the normal pasword file and check if you can login.
Nov 27 21:14:14 <marceln> Ofcourse you have to remove that at the end of the test.
Nov 27 21:14:21 <marceln>  
Nov 27 21:14:44 <SM_Barbie> isn't there a different salt for the hash anyway?
Nov 27 21:15:35 <marceln> Yes. But what do you mean by that question?
Nov 27 21:15:35 <marceln>  
Nov 27 21:15:35 <marceln> But maybe it's better to change it anyway so that you know the password
Nov 27 21:16:16 <SM_Barbie> if it wasn't ro :)
Nov 27 21:16:59 <marceln> The hash is in the first 2 letters of the password. No problem at all.
Nov 27 21:17:01 <SM_Barbie> remounted, rw
Nov 27 21:17:23 <marceln> I this it and found that my password is still opeNSLUg
Nov 27 21:17:55 <marceln> s/this/did/
Nov 27 21:17:55 <capbot> marceln meant: I did it and found that my password is still opeNSLUg
Nov 27 21:18:17 <SM_Barbie> I passwd'd to the default in a chroot
Nov 27 21:18:23 <SM_Barbie> let's compare to the old one
Nov 27 21:19:06 <SM_Barbie> ok, different hash
Nov 27 21:19:14 <SM_Barbie> seems like stupid me changed it to whatnot
Nov 27 21:19:33 <SM_Barbie> thank you marceln for the right hints, I guess it should work next time
Nov 27 22:05:41 <deever> does anybody here have a toolchain for cross-compiling for the slug running debian?
Nov 27 22:05:58 <deever> s/the/a/
Nov 27 22:05:58 <capbot> deever meant: does anybody here have a toolchain for cross-compiling for a slug running debian?
Nov 27 22:06:33 <deever> capbot: i was faster! ^^
Nov 27 22:07:21 <jprind> deever, capbot was applying your 's/the/a/'
Nov 27 22:07:47 <Reedy_Boy> lke this
Nov 27 22:07:50 <Reedy_Boy> s/lke/like
Nov 27 22:07:57 <Reedy_Boy> s/lke/like/
Nov 27 22:07:59 <capbot> Reedy_Boy meant: s/like/like
Nov 27 22:08:02 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Nov 27 22:08:06 <Reedy_Boy> lke this
Nov 27 22:08:07 <Reedy_Boy> s/lke/like/
Nov 27 22:08:08 <capbot> Reedy_Boy meant: like this
Nov 27 22:08:19 <Reedy_Boy> ~botsnack
Nov 27 22:08:20 <capbot> aw, gee, Reedy_Boy
Nov 27 22:08:37 <deever> jprind: i know! this is what i said...;)
Nov 27 22:08:41 <eno> deever: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/DebianArmEtch
Nov 27 22:10:10 <deever> lol...ok
Nov 27 22:10:20 <jprind> deever, my point was that had you not written the search/replace string capbot would not have done a thing. you're necessarily faster than the bot :P
Nov 27 22:10:48 <deever> it seems that there is no way around optware, is it?
Nov 27 22:10:50 * Reedy_Boy think if capbot auto corrected, that would be ace ;)
Nov 27 22:10:52 <deever> well so
Nov 27 22:11:33 <deever> jprind: ah, capbot reacts on the s-commands! ok! ;)
Nov 27 22:22:58 <deever> i get an error!
Nov 27 22:23:01 <deever> http://rafb.net/p/xaYtcX66.html
Nov 27 22:24:50 <eno> deever: sounds like you did not get up-to-date optware svn tree
Nov 27 22:25:09 <eno> in optware directory, svn up
Nov 27 22:28:26 <eno> think i also forgot one sudo step, just added to wiki
Nov 27 22:38:59 <deever> eno: At revision 7352.
Nov 27 22:39:34 <deever> i checked out, just right before a few minutes
Nov 27 22:40:41 <eno> arhh, there's a typo: s/cs04armel/cs04q3armel/g
Nov 27 22:47:37 <deever> eno: where should i fix that?
Nov 27 22:48:20 <eno> i fixed the wiki page: cd optware; rm -rf cs04armel
Nov 27 22:48:48 <eno> then start from "make cs04q3armel-target"
Nov 27 22:50:58 <PPmarcel> good night everybody ;)
Nov 27 23:17:01 <deever> eno: what exactly is downloads/scratchbox-libs-1.0.8-i386.tar.gz?
Nov 27 23:19:02 <eno> deever: we download the working toolchain from scratchbox.org
Nov 27 23:19:20 <eno> see platforms/toolchain-cs04q3armel.mk
Nov 27 23:19:41 <deever> and there is no rule for ipkt-opt-ipk
Nov 27 23:19:59 <deever> make: *** No rule to make target `ipkt-opt-ipk'.  Stop.
Nov 27 23:20:17 <eno> downloading two files, one of them has to be unpacked at /scratchbox
Nov 27 23:20:34 <eno> should be "make ipkg-opt-ipk"
Nov 27 23:20:42 <eno> could be another typo of mine
Nov 27 23:21:18 <deever> oh, sorry, i should have got this! ;)
Nov 27 23:21:20 <eno> apparently you're the first to try this
Nov 27 23:21:29 <deever> lol
Nov 27 23:21:32 <deever> seems so
Nov 27 23:22:53 <eno> the "make toolchain" upto "touch toolchain/.unpacked"  gave you the toolchain
Nov 27 23:23:11 <eno> you don't have to use it for optware ipk
Nov 27 23:25:44 <deever> what exactly do i have to install for aclocal?
Nov 27 23:27:07 <eno> automake1.9
Nov 27 23:27:34 <deever> hm...automake is installed...wait
Nov 27 23:28:01 <deever> ah, ok
Nov 27 23:29:41 <eno> deever: what package are you working on?
Nov 27 23:31:09 <deever> it finished succesfully! :-)
Nov 27 23:31:49 <deever> eno: thank you for your help!! :)
Nov 27 23:32:22 <eno> excellent, now you can try build some packages and test it on debian
Nov 27 23:32:43 <deever> i didn't think i still get to here! :) 
Nov 27 23:34:08 <eno> it wasn't that difficult, isn't it?
Nov 27 23:34:42 <eno> if i did not make the two typos
Nov 27 23:35:46 <deever> hehe...compared what i did until now anyway! ;)
Nov 27 23:35:57 <deever> compared to
Nov 27 23:49:14 <deever> hrhr...
Nov 27 23:49:58 <deever> eno: is there a possibility to use scp instead of http?
Nov 27 23:50:29 <eno> for individual ipk's, yes
Nov 27 23:50:42 <deever> cuz i don't want to setup a webserver only for this on my desktop machine
Nov 27 23:50:45 <eno> for feed, only http or ftp
Nov 27 23:51:20 <eno> or local directory
Nov 27 23:52:04 <eno> so, if you have samba on the debian slug, you can copy it there
Nov 27 23:52:30 <deever> ah, good idea
Nov 27 23:52:49 <eno> adjust /opt/etc/ipkg.conf accordingly
Nov 28 00:08:14 <deever> eno: thank you very much, hey! you saved me a lot of time! :)
Nov 28 00:08:50 <eno> deever: have fun
Nov 28 00:09:04 <deever> still: which rsync options would you use to sync the dirs?
Nov 28 00:09:32 <deever> s/:/,/
Nov 28 00:10:02 <deever> thank you, capbot
Nov 28 00:10:35 <eno> not an rsync expert, you'll need to man rsync
Nov 28 00:23:41 <deever> shit! SMB does not permit symlinks! :o
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