**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 10 02:59:57 2008 Jan 10 03:27:45 ok, I've poked around the wiki, but am stumped.. I have telnet Jan 10 03:29:14 into my unslung slug. I cannot ping anything past the router. I CAN ping (and resolve dns addys) from my xp box but even pinging known good ip addresses from the telnet session no response. Jan 10 03:29:38 any ideas where I could look next? Jan 10 03:30:06 it's a netgear router, but I can Jan 10 03:30:23 not find anythnig in its setup that would seem to apply Jan 10 03:33:47 You cannot ping anything beyond the router from your NSLU2, or from your XP box? Jan 10 03:36:07 cannot ping any addres beyond the router from a telnet session on the nslu2 Jan 10 03:36:35 Go to the web gui, and check that you have set your gateway address on the NSLU2 correctly. Jan 10 03:36:53 I CAN ping ip addresses and get dns resolved from and xp command window Jan 10 03:37:07 ok Jan 10 03:37:19 Right. Your XP box probably has the gateway set via DHCP, so it is correct. Jan 10 03:39:41 you, sir, had the winning answer, thank you Jan 10 03:41:30 NOW I can ipkg and GO TO TOWN! Jan 10 03:41:45 thank you and good night Jan 10 03:41:53 ;) Excellent! Don't forget to start with openssh! Jan 10 03:42:19 yes, I have read the advise on that Jan 10 03:42:37 the plan is to get cups going Jan 10 03:43:24 Lots of work, but not too terribly difficult. Just lots of moving parts to work out in that install. Jan 10 03:44:18 The key things that make it much easier are to disable ssl (i.e. use http rather than https), and don't run the printer driver on the NSLU2, rather run it on the windows boxes. Jan 10 03:44:26 learning experience is good... I USED to know AIX (ibm unis) pretty well, but that was 11 years ago Jan 10 03:45:26 ty, bye Jan 10 11:05:47 yay ordered my first slug :) Jan 10 11:08:57 Congrats. Jan 10 14:55:05 hey can someone check my bash script? Jan 10 14:58:39 Not if they can't see it. Jan 10 15:10:53 its purpose is to backup stuff http://pastebin.com/m2f169196 Jan 10 15:22:18 Whats the problem? Jan 10 17:55:45 mwester, seems you were right about the printer Jan 10 17:56:01 After all that faffing i did with the filters Jan 10 17:56:10 i just tried booting it again Jan 10 17:56:16 set the windows pc to connect via IPP Jan 10 17:56:20 And it just worked Jan 10 17:56:21 :) Jan 10 18:01:49 Its using "DeviceURI usb://Samsung/ML-1610 Jan 10 18:01:49 " still, presumably it doesnt matter as it works - ie others and the wiki say /dev/usb/lp0 Jan 10 18:56:02 Reedy_Boy: theres no prolem i dont think i just want someone more experienced than me (im a beginner) to look over this scrip i made for backups just to see if everything looks right and makes sense.. its short : http://pastebin.com/m2f169196 Jan 10 18:58:15 Mike__, line 10 looks bogus. (unless you're trying to execute redboot.bin for some odd reason) Jan 10 18:59:38 cat is supposed to be at the beginning of that line i dont know why its not there lol, anything else? Jan 10 19:01:31 I don't understand the purpose of making that a script; are you going to run that more than once? If so, why? Jan 10 19:03:42 Only reason i could see, was to post it for people if they wanted a "backup" script for their system and such Jan 10 19:49:21 anyone here use upnp? Jan 10 19:50:30 daveyboy_, im sure people do.. Jan 10 19:50:34 for what purpose ;) Jan 10 19:53:45 ha, well bascially i still havign slow access times when using my xbmc to acces files on slug. i retsored linux firmware adn even tested new beta version to see if it was limited to unslung, but that doesnt seem to be the problem. cant work out why i would have such a delay in accessing shares...once they opened, i dont notice slow performance, but its something that is really becoming a pain Jan 10 19:55:09 Many epople use TwonkyMedia as a uPnP server.. Jan 10 19:55:56 yea im looking at that. worries me that its network problem, which wouldnt be solved by switchign protocall... any idea why i havign this issue? Jan 10 19:57:46 have you tried doing some file copies and timing it/measuring throughput? Jan 10 19:58:41 as i say, i dont have problem with performance when playing files, its just accessing folder for first time Jan 10 19:59:02 does the xbmc make an index or something? Jan 10 19:59:41 not sure. let me find out Jan 10 20:00:11 * Reedy_Boy wonders why debian is still on cups 1.2.7 Jan 10 20:00:17 stable that is Jan 10 20:16:06 anyone have experinces with mc on ds101j? Jan 10 20:16:53 no one, thanks! Jan 10 20:25:31 reedyboy, quick qu for you.... simple yes or no will surfice ;).... i unslung, but then went back to standard firmware to test smb,... do i need to go trhough whole unslunging again, or can i use upslung (windows alternative)? (i was on 6.8 but see 6.10 is out.) Jan 10 20:27:21 if your on the stock firmware, you can use the interface to update Jan 10 20:27:27 but yes, would you need to unsling again Jan 10 20:27:36 ok no probs. cheers Jan 10 20:57:37 reed, u there. having probs :S not enough freespace. tried doing what wiki said but still having no luck (currently running links r73 firmware) Jan 10 20:58:42 * r72 Jan 10 20:59:51 ubuntuircstats.org/nslu2-general.html :) Jan 10 21:00:27 gouki, i think i made that come back... I visited the sites then the bot appeared in nslu2-linux channel.. Jan 10 21:00:47 :) Jan 10 21:00:52 It's like magic! :) Jan 10 21:00:59 eno requested it for a couple of channels Jan 10 21:01:05 ahh Jan 10 21:01:10 UbuntuStats doesn't know wether to stay or quit 1 Jan 10 21:01:10 lol Jan 10 21:01:18 LOL! Jan 10 21:01:23 Poor guy! Jan 10 21:01:32 lol Jan 10 21:01:38 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/IRC Jan 10 21:01:45 All the channels I'm parsing logs Jan 10 21:01:57 cool Jan 10 21:02:17 Pretty sure CIA-21 will be the most active 'person' on -linux Jan 10 21:02:23 haha Jan 10 21:03:00 so it will all be nicely updated when the logs are parsed? Jan 10 21:04:24 Reedy_Boy: cron launches the script which parses the logs every 20 minutes Jan 10 21:04:38 So, every 20 minutes, a new .html page is available Jan 10 21:04:54 I can't decrease the value, because channels like #ubuntu take forever to parse to HTML Jan 10 21:21:39 sorry, i thought you meant you would be parsing OLD logs ;) Jan 10 21:25:27 ola! doe anybody how to force ipkg to install a package lower then the latest version? I`m trying to install a local package of asterisk 1.2.24,but if I use " ipkg -force_downgrade -V 2 install asterisk_1.2.24-1_armeb.ipk" it ignores it and just downloads version 1.4 ! Jan 10 21:26:21 lol Jan 10 21:26:32 doe ipkg has some kind of "offline"modus? Jan 10 21:26:38 +s Jan 10 21:26:44 it should do that with the .ipk looking at the man Jan 10 21:27:14 maybe remove the current version and try installing the other Jan 10 21:28:05 it doesnt if I use the -force-downgrade it tells me that I already have the latest version.. Jan 10 21:29:13 I could plug out my router and see what happens :-) Jan 10 21:29:28 yeah Jan 10 21:29:29 true Jan 10 21:29:29 ;) Jan 10 21:31:01 well..brb then! :-) Jan 10 21:35:46 reedy. fixed smb issue. was xbmc problem. now just need to unslung again, but getting mem full isues with links firmware. seen 1 solution was to use eraseall, but SERIOUSLY not keen on this idea due to warnings from wiki Jan 10 21:36:31 any sugestions ? Jan 10 21:44:58 nope,that didn`t the trick.. Jan 10 21:45:18 just complains about an wget error and quits Jan 10 21:46:29 daveyboy_, which method is giving you the disk full/whatever Jan 10 21:47:11 WDTY, you are in the directory with that file airent yo? Jan 10 21:47:16 *arent you? Jan 10 21:48:49 using links browser to flash the r72 firmware that is on now, to unslung without hdd in. i have just (tentativly) plugged hdd in usb2 and it has just aloweded me to flash (reverted back to R63 as i think its bug with new beta links firmware). waiting on restart Jan 10 21:49:23 ok Jan 10 21:49:37 if you cant do it via web interface, use the sercomm tool/upslug2 Jan 10 21:50:00 oh,srry I was afk Jan 10 21:50:11 ah didnt think i could use that to unslung. would have used that in first place. seems much more reliable Jan 10 21:50:26 Got it! -->ipkg -V 2 -o /var/tmp -force-depends install /var/tmp/asterisk_1.2.24-1_armeb.ipk Jan 10 21:51:28 hum doesnt seem to have downgraded. will try the sercom tool. should i put r63 on or unslung (ver 6.8 which i already sucessfully unslung)? Jan 10 21:51:30 I had to use the -o parameter "-o Use as the root directory for offline installation of packages" Jan 10 21:51:40 tell a lie. it has Jan 10 21:51:41 just stick unslung on Jan 10 21:51:47 web page needed refreshing Jan 10 21:51:49 and if your doing it, you may aswell put 6.10 on Jan 10 21:52:04 will unslung now... AGAIN :D Jan 10 21:57:30 I have files located in /admin1/tv or /admin1/music etc (slug moved them)... i want to move them to better named shares root/tv etc ... whats quickest way, command line move or moving them via exploror (quite long process to move all files as is 500 gig) Jan 10 21:57:56 command line i suppose Jan 10 22:14:57 reed, 1 more q, unslinging now (6.10 compaired to previsos 6.8) and got message in telnet saying /share/flash/data apears to already have been unslung... can format (not option) or can unsling without removing current root, but it says about entering unchartered terriroty... what u suggest? Jan 10 22:16:47 daveyboy_, please ping me - ie use "Reedy_Boy" Jan 10 22:16:52 Then i know you're talking to me ;) Jan 10 22:17:26 daveyboy_, presumably you didnt reformat? Jan 10 22:17:36 no, you just said that Jan 10 22:17:50 ha... i said reed... how many other rreds are there ;P. nope didnt (alreadu got stuff on i wnat to keep) Jan 10 22:18:03 No, but my irc client flashes if you type my full anme ;) Jan 10 22:18:12 ah got you :) Jan 10 22:18:24 so gets my attention quicker Jan 10 22:18:31 chances are if you press tab, it will autocomplete ;) Jan 10 22:18:37 yup Jan 10 22:19:22 daveyboy_, you know what your old password was? Jan 10 22:19:32 could format (after backing up files) but its bit of ball ache... yea know all that Jan 10 22:19:42 right Jan 10 22:19:45 AFAIK/IIRC Jan 10 22:19:52 your password may be the only thing that will remain Jan 10 22:20:29 You should be fine just to unsling over the top it would seem.. If not, its only a quick reflash (no data affected) then maybe try by deleting all the files in that folder before continuning Jan 10 22:20:34 im just having a quick wiki search Jan 10 22:21:27 yea? but i still need to stop it booting from flash and hdd instead.... but it says if i remove file /share/flash/data.unslung and retry that will do it? Jan 10 22:23:01 what page you looking at? Jan 10 22:24:44 its in telnet Jan 10 22:24:53 lol Jan 10 22:25:21 Error: /share/flash/data appears to have already been unslung to: Jan 10 22:25:21 V2.3R63-uNSLUng-6.8-beta Jan 10 22:25:21 Please go to the web interface, and format the drive before Jan 10 22:25:21 unslinging. Jan 10 22:25:36 Error: /share/flash/data appears to have already been unslung to: Jan 10 22:25:36 V2.3R63-uNSLUng-6.8-beta Jan 10 22:25:36 Please go to the web interface, and format the drive before Jan 10 22:25:36 unslinging. Jan 10 22:25:41 grr Jan 10 22:26:08 (Or, if you wish to unsling without removing the current root Jan 10 22:26:08 filesystem, simply remove the file /share/flash/data/.unslung and retry Jan 10 22:26:08 the unsling -- but beware, you enter uncharted territory!) Jan 10 22:27:41 fuck it... will back up files off hdd, then format. least that way i know its not going to have got screwed, like what happened with samba config file Jan 10 22:27:46 lol Jan 10 22:27:56 at a guess, if you deleted all the files in the /share/flash/data folder Jan 10 22:28:01 you would have a "clean" partition Jan 10 22:29:28 is there a way to make a fatslug that doesn't require soldering? Jan 10 22:29:39 probably not.. Jan 10 22:29:44 its empy though thats problem. no files in that dir Jan 10 22:30:03 may flash to 6.8 and see if that will work fine Jan 10 22:30:04 hmm Jan 10 22:30:19 seen as thats firmware it is expecting Jan 10 22:30:34 as long as you unsling to the right drive.. it should work i reckon... as its not going to change any partitions Jan 10 22:31:14 use upgrade mode, and put 6.8 on... will i need to unsling again? Jan 10 22:31:26 whatya mean? Jan 10 22:31:38 oh Jan 10 22:31:40 yes Jan 10 22:31:51 if you reflash you'd have to unsling again Jan 10 22:32:06 as it copies some files from the flash to the drive, and changes some config files and such Jan 10 22:32:15 reflashed, it wouldnt have the changed files Jan 10 22:32:50 well i previosuly had 6.8 on. all worked fine (cept smb) so reverted back to links firmware, ound it was xbmc issue, so then put 6.10 on.... but it is expecting 6.8 for files. if i put that back on, i willb e able to unsling without errors i been recieving im guessing Jan 10 22:33:20 "Error: /share/flash/data appears to have already been unslung to: Jan 10 22:33:20 V2.3R63-uNSLUng-6.8-beta Jan 10 22:33:57 potentially, but i dont know.. is /share/flash/data empty tho? Jan 10 22:34:08 yup Jan 10 22:34:42 :S Jan 10 22:34:51 using win upslung prog wont hurt will it. prob easiest method? Jan 10 22:35:02 put 6.8 on then try unslinging again Jan 10 22:36:04 nah it wont hurt, but yeah, simplest unless your on linux ;) Jan 10 22:36:36 not yet ... but maybe one day ;) Jan 10 22:36:43 last time i had to reflash Jan 10 22:36:54 i used my unslung NSLU2 to put an image on my debian one :D Jan 10 22:37:16 will boot to redboot now, and see how we go with 6.8 now :) Jan 10 22:38:20 Reedy_Boy unplug hdds? Jan 10 22:38:47 yeah, always boot when not unslung without drives attached Jan 10 22:39:15 but its half slung (to flash) Jan 10 22:39:19 still see what u mean Jan 10 22:39:46 yeah Jan 10 22:40:02 as if you dont, it can cause password problems logging into telnet if drives are attached Jan 10 22:40:05 if newly formatted and such Jan 10 22:41:59 serious kudos to all you guys by way (esp devs)... been really impressed with usability of all this.... just looking forward to egtting ctorrent set up nicely and my smb music/video shares Jan 10 23:16:37 Reedy_Boy .... flashed with 6.8, same error message, biting bullet, backing up films and then formating Jan 10 23:54:56 hello - i am here hoping I can get some help with my slug - trying to set up raid1 - I have gotten pretty far along but ran into some trouble trying to figure out how to handle the startup of the md and raid modules Jan 10 23:57:03 it seems I will have to manually move the samba startup scripts later into the boot process, or manually edit the startup scripts to insmod the raid and md modules after the disks have mounted, but still before the start of samba Jan 10 23:59:18 I don't want to raid the boot, just the data disks, so the FAQ's got me pretty far until I got to the part where I was supposed to copy the modules into the initrd. Jan 11 00:00:01 it seems I shouldn't have to do that if I can get the modules to load _after_ the unsling is done Jan 11 00:00:39 Ken_slush: It would be helpful to those lurking and reading if you can mention what firmware you are using, and also note the specific wiki pages or URLs that you are following... Jan 11 00:00:51 gotcha Jan 11 00:01:19 latest unlung firmware: V2.3R63-uNSLUng-6.8-beta Jan 11 00:01:38 latest is 6.10 ;) Jan 11 00:01:44 But no major changes in it Jan 11 00:01:48 used this link to get everthing rolling: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/Raid1onUnslung6 Jan 11 00:02:15 i already got the raid arrays created and I can mount them manually - all is well there Jan 11 00:03:06 I just am kind of fuzzy on how to work out the boot order Jan 11 00:03:25 i am betting there are probably more than just one option Jan 11 00:03:53 thanks for the 6.10 info Jan 11 00:03:59 Ken_slush: Hopefully someone here may be able to help, but you are probably on your own -- what you are doing is in the same league as putting a 12-cyl alcohol-fueled engine into an Austin Mini. Jan 11 00:04:27 Do you have a serial console? Jan 11 00:04:35 serial console? Jan 11 00:04:44 can i ask y? Jan 11 00:04:49 ;) Jan 11 00:05:08 So you can see the startup messages when you start editing and changing them!! Jan 11 00:05:12 ah! Jan 11 00:05:21 nope Jan 11 00:05:24 i am working through ssh Jan 11 00:05:48 since I am not messing around with any of the startup disks, I never get locked out Jan 11 00:05:48 Without a console, if you start editing the Unslung startup scripts, you are probably lost. That's like trying to install that 12-cyl engine into that tiny car whilst blindfolded. Jan 11 00:06:02 yes thats right Jan 11 00:06:07 thats the stage i am at too Jan 11 00:06:51 May I enquire as to why you are doing this? Experiment? or are you hoping for some larger benefit? Jan 11 00:07:20 I am thinking of just moving the Samba startup stuff out of the current directories and into /opt/etc/init.d Jan 11 00:07:29 current files I should say Jan 11 00:08:02 i just want to mirror my two data disks Jan 11 00:08:09 for redundancy Jan 11 00:08:21 I put home movies and pictures on them and I don't want them lost Jan 11 00:08:38 You'd be far, far better off with Unslung, just using the disk-to-disk copy. There's a script on the wiki that makes it work properly with Unslung 6. Jan 11 00:08:52 yea i considered that... Jan 11 00:09:30 and it may be the way to go Jan 11 00:10:10 AFAIK, nobody has ever gotten RAID to work beyond a "cool experiment" kind of level. The problems compound -- the USB connection is terribly slow, so mirroring effectively cuts the write performance in half -- it's unreliable, and the Linksys firmware shuts down in a manner Jan 11 00:10:15 that is more a controlled crash. Jan 11 00:10:23 oh yea? Jan 11 00:10:27 kk Jan 11 00:10:36 Thus, the mirror often needs to be resynced -- which takes an eternity. Jan 11 00:11:04 i got it running right now manually so it is not really being put through the motions Jan 11 00:11:11 In any case, that's just my opinion. Jan 11 00:11:17 i didn't consider that problem Jan 11 00:11:34 it does take more than an eternity btw Jan 11 00:11:41 eternity+1 Jan 11 00:11:47 500gb dont go fast Jan 11 00:11:50 lol Jan 11 00:13:14 The normal samba startup with the Linskys firmware is closely tied in to the startup scripts so that it can detect and adapt when (for example) a flash device is plugged in. Since you don't need that functionality when you are RAIDED (you have no ports left) you can probably use a Jan 11 00:13:25 diversion script to disable samba without editing the startup scripts. Jan 11 00:13:28 well thats what i'm here for - second opinions. If it isn't stable than I need to change direction Jan 11 00:13:34 right thats what I thought too Jan 11 00:13:46 Then add a startup script in /opt/etc/inid.d to start it after the RAID devices have started (and synced). Jan 11 00:14:04 but if I have to rebuild it takes more than about 8-10 hrs Jan 11 00:14:16 backup is looking better all the time Jan 11 00:15:00 Take a look at the wiki for the article on making the NSLU2 beep music, and add a triumpant "trumpet" after it syncs, so you know it's done. And make sure that you power off or reset from the web gui or the power-button, never type "restart" or "halt" (or you'll have sync problems again). Jan 11 00:16:09 Are both these drives on a hub, then? Jan 11 00:16:28 it could be done - i saw how samba is started - I could recreate a samba startup script into the init.d like this: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Samba Jan 11 00:16:38 lol yes on a hub Jan 11 00:17:01 and I could remove samba from the normal linksys way Jan 11 00:17:15 Yep, that's what I'd try. Jan 11 00:17:23 but your thoughts on the other problems are accurate... Jan 11 00:17:48 i would be in performance hell during writes Jan 11 00:18:04 Well, you've come this far - you might as well try it and see what it's like in real life. Jan 11 00:18:06 when I could just have that executing at night when nothing else is going on Jan 11 00:19:03 The comments I've heard on it have all been related to the broken mirror problem and the painful sync process; I'm not sure that I've ever heard numbers for write performance (other than the sync process, which probably isn't representative of Samba's writing to the disk). Jan 11 00:19:35 it was a fun project. That said, when I think over your comments, I realize this is just not a good idea Jan 11 00:20:09 USB is not a very good interconnect for RAID devices, in so very many ways. Jan 11 00:20:25 LOL Jan 11 00:20:35 gotta run for a bit - good luck! Jan 11 00:21:19 it was an idea I had for my initial box I was going to create out of a real server... it should have probably stayed there. tkae care and thanks again Jan 11 01:12:39 Hi all, thx for your help yesterday. After screwing my head on right and entering the correct user/pwd, my slug unslung just fine! Jan 11 01:13:40 I want to use it for a NAS for backup and some other things, but I'm having trouble getting this working Jan 11 01:14:08 I used rdiff on a usb connected hd formerly Jan 11 01:14:21 and now want to move this over to the slug Jan 11 01:15:21 my Mac seems to recognize "slug" on the network, but my linux box does not Jan 11 01:16:18 I can ssh into the slug from linux, so I thought I could set up rdiff over ssh, but I'm struggling to get this working Jan 11 01:17:15 the problem seems to be getting rdiff to recognize a "destination" on the slug Jan 11 01:18:33 any pointers would be helpful Jan 11 01:19:01 Also suggestions about how others use the slug for backups Jan 11 01:19:35 didn't see anything specific on the website/wiki etc, but maybe I missed it Jan 11 01:30:50 have to get dinner now, I'll be back later. Hope someone can help on this then. Thx! Jan 11 01:30:55 * feffer_ ...be back later: Gone away for now. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 11 02:59:56 2008