**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 18 02:59:57 2008 Jan 18 03:00:26 i don't know unslung Jan 18 03:00:45 it is a alternative firmware for nslu2 Jan 18 03:01:08 but i think my problem is a specially linux problem Jan 18 03:02:01 i know what it is Jan 18 03:02:07 ok, shoot then Jan 18 03:02:11 thx Jan 18 03:03:25 i want to use an external HDD (fat32) ... on startup my slug mount it automatically and i can browse it... my question ist, how can i chmod the "share" 777? Jan 18 03:03:35 that's a very bad idea Jan 18 03:03:52 why Jan 18 03:04:20 it's extremely insecure? Jan 18 03:04:33 no problem is only @home Jan 18 03:05:09 if you want multiple people to be able to write there, you're better off making a group for them, putting them in that group by default, and making it all owned by that group. Jan 18 03:05:48 if you really want to make it wide open you can use the mode= option to mount Jan 18 03:05:49 man mount Jan 18 03:06:12 -bash: man: command not found Jan 18 03:06:17 :-) Jan 18 03:06:41 http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount Jan 18 03:08:44 i have to use mount -t vfat mode=777 /dev/sda1 /mnt/biggie ? Jan 18 03:09:22 should do the trick Jan 18 03:09:30 oh it's vfat i see Jan 18 03:09:41 yes Jan 18 03:09:47 schould this be a problem? Jan 18 03:10:41 well i think it is Jan 18 03:10:43 you probably won't Jan 18 03:11:30 ok i have to eyplain my problem better... Jan 18 03:11:58 i can access the share over smb perfectly (mac osx & xp pro) Jan 18 03:12:41 but i use a downloaderscript (wget-ssl) and this cant create files Jan 18 03:13:26 why chmod -R 777 /share/hdd/data/HDD_1_1_1 wont work? Jan 18 03:13:48 that didn't make it clear... what context is this script running in? from a login shell? cron? what user? from a cgi script? Jan 18 03:13:59 because it's vfat Jan 18 03:14:05 unix perms are determined at mount Jan 18 03:14:25 it is a web script php & python Jan 18 03:14:35 ok Jan 18 03:14:41 if you ls -ld the mount point Jan 18 03:14:46 what group owns it? Jan 18 03:15:14 drwxrwx--- 7 guest everyone 32768 Jan 1 1970 /share/hdd/data/HDD_1_1_1 Jan 18 03:15:17 ok Jan 18 03:15:26 try adding the web server user to the everyone group? Jan 18 03:15:53 how can i see wich user is the webserver user? Jan 18 03:16:04 ps auxww | grep httpd Jan 18 03:16:08 or ps auxww | grep apache Jan 18 03:16:17 u r typing fast :-) Jan 18 03:16:25 always do Jan 18 03:16:35 707 root 424 S N grep appweb Jan 18 03:16:41 ? Jan 18 03:16:46 well i don't know, i don't use unslung Jan 18 03:16:53 no idea what web server it is or anything.. find out Jan 18 03:17:02 i've got to go write a script real quick Jan 18 03:17:16 ok thx for helping Jan 18 03:26:46 made a script to dl all the package files and compute size and md5sum and fix the packages file Jan 18 03:26:49 misfire Jan 18 04:34:16 Hi; I received my NSLU2 today and I've been reading a lot of materials from nslu2-linux.org. I am totally lost as for which distribution I should choose, because I would like to be able to use my slug for more than network storage (so Unslug might be inappropriate), and I would like to avoid using an external harddrive if at all possible (I have a USB flashdisk of 256MB I'd like to use for this). Which distribution would you recommend ? Jan 18 04:34:43 i use openwrt for that. base distro takes around 1 meg. it's based on uClibc Jan 18 04:34:53 yea I think uclibc is good for me Jan 18 04:35:08 everything i do on my carputer setup so far takes like 3 megs Jan 18 04:35:22 tell me more about your setup :) Jan 18 04:35:29 (please :)) Jan 18 04:35:32 http://www.bistromath.org/geekcar/ Jan 18 04:35:46 ty Jan 18 04:35:51 slug, jailbroken ipod touch, linksys wrt54gc, moto q for internet Jan 18 04:35:57 (ev-do tethered via usb) Jan 18 04:36:34 oh it's an Audi ! my father has an Audi A4 TDI quattro from 2004 Jan 18 04:36:41 cool Jan 18 04:36:46 mine's a 2.8 v6 Jan 18 04:36:53 naturally aspirated Jan 18 04:37:03 my is diesel, 2.5 Jan 18 04:37:46 openwrt works a treat so far tho Jan 18 04:38:08 i'll probably start with it then, thanks for your advice Jan 18 04:38:20 i might have to remove than clock dividing resistor too Jan 18 04:38:22 all will have their quirks really Jan 18 04:38:25 yeah definitely Jan 18 04:38:31 i'm not sure if my unit has it or not Jan 18 04:38:33 took me 2 min Jan 18 04:38:37 cat /proc/cpuinfo Jan 18 04:38:45 if it's 100 something bogo mips you're underclocked Jan 18 04:38:48 yea but i still have the linksys stock firmware Jan 18 04:38:50 yea Jan 18 04:38:57 it probably is Jan 18 04:38:59 you'll find out tho Jan 18 04:39:06 super easy to remove Jan 18 04:39:15 i just took a jeweler screwdriver, put the flat blade along one side Jan 18 04:39:24 i'm not worried, i'm an electornic engineering student Jan 18 04:39:25 and gave it a little tap with something heavy, in this case an old hard disk Jan 18 04:39:28 ok Jan 18 04:39:31 there ya go then Jan 18 04:39:35 :) Jan 18 04:39:42 not really worth desoldering or anything tho Jan 18 04:39:49 the brute force approach takes 5 sec and works fine Jan 18 04:39:53 shatters to dust Jan 18 04:40:20 you know anything about lead acid batteries? Jan 18 04:41:21 teletype, yea Jan 18 04:41:24 what do you want to know Jan 18 04:41:29 well Jan 18 04:41:47 if i'm discharging it and recharging every day, am i going to destroy it? not deep discharge, only by 1-1.5V or so Jan 18 04:42:00 i'm hoping only deep discharge and recharge cycles are bad for it Jan 18 04:43:40 well, each time you discharge it you apply some stress on it Jan 18 04:43:47 yeah Jan 18 04:43:54 what you should avoid is discharging it too much, i.e. below 11V for a 12V battery Jan 18 04:43:55 but 1-1.5V worth of discharge should not be too bad eh Jan 18 04:44:08 i guess i'll wait and see if it dies Jan 18 04:44:11 depends of how many elements it has, im assuming you are speaking of a 12V battery Jan 18 04:44:17 and if it does just get a secondary deep cycle for the accessories Jan 18 04:44:24 yes, 12v car battery Jan 18 04:44:27 donno how many cells Jan 18 04:44:29 as long as you don't fall below 11V it should be fine Jan 18 04:44:33 6 cells Jan 18 04:44:37 it's 2V per cell Jan 18 04:44:45 it actually runs around 13v fully charged Jan 18 04:44:49 yea Jan 18 04:44:52 this is normal Jan 18 04:44:53 and i go down to about 11.5-12 usually Jan 18 04:45:03 you can charge it to 13.8V Jan 18 04:45:10 and discharge it down to 11V Jan 18 04:45:23 if i have troubles i'll go deep cycle Jan 18 04:45:26 what do you use to charge it ? Jan 18 04:45:29 the slug stays booted 24x7 Jan 18 04:45:31 the alternator Jan 18 04:45:34 oh i see Jan 18 04:45:55 i would suggest adding some low voltage shut off, but actually the power consumption of the slug is ~12W from what i've heard Jan 18 04:45:58 this is 1A Jan 18 04:46:08 on the mains side Jan 18 04:46:11 my audi battery is 95Ah, i.e. at !amp you need 95h to discharge it Jan 18 04:46:17 mine's drawing around half an amp on the dc side Jan 18 04:46:20 at 1amp* Jan 18 04:46:44 hmm Jan 18 04:46:49 this is 2.5W only Jan 18 04:46:59 yeah, i was looking at reserve capacity which is rated in # of mins a 25 amp draw will make it go below 10.5v i think Jan 18 04:46:59 (500mA * 5volts = 2.5 watts) Jan 18 04:47:13 didn't know if that was linear if 1a would last 25 times longer Jan 18 04:47:29 yes i do know the simple formulas ;) Jan 18 04:47:32 assuming a conversion efficiency of 75%, it should draw 3.33W on the 12V battery Jan 18 04:47:42 i.e. 0.27A Jan 18 04:47:53 i think i will be fine Jan 18 04:48:05 i.e. with a 95Ah battery you'd need 95/0.27 = 342hours to discharge it Jan 18 04:48:10 yeah Jan 18 04:48:14 this is a rough approximation but it seems to indicate that you're fine Jan 18 04:48:16 ;) Jan 18 04:48:19 that'd be a long long time to go without driving Jan 18 04:48:26 the most i ever go is 1.5 day Jan 18 04:48:29 and i drive at least 20 miles a day Jan 18 04:48:33 well i'd say don't let it running for more than 2 or 3 days Jan 18 04:48:37 just to be safe Jan 18 04:48:49 the battery is charged very quickly by the alternator Jan 18 04:48:50 well the battery is old Jan 18 04:48:52 so it should not be a problem Jan 18 04:48:54 i'm not too concerned about frying it Jan 18 04:49:02 i'm just curious if it will Jan 18 04:49:04 be careful, my battery was 6 years old and it died instantly Jan 18 04:49:08 we were on a parking lot Jan 18 04:49:10 yeah, dead cell can do that Jan 18 04:49:14 i had that happen Jan 18 04:49:16 i was in the car listening to some music (at a moderate volume) Jan 18 04:49:19 for say 2 hours Jan 18 04:49:24 and then the car would'nt start Jan 18 04:49:27 well Jan 18 04:49:31 i can still start the car Jan 18 04:49:32 yea, dead cell Jan 18 04:49:33 just pop start Jan 18 04:49:41 it works, and then it decides not to Jan 18 04:49:51 brb (2mn) Jan 18 05:02:22 (back) Jan 18 05:02:33 what do you use to power the slug fron your car battery ? Jan 18 05:03:06 if you use an inverter and then the supplied power adapter (12v -> 120v -> 5v) then it's not as efficient as it could be, but it probably doesn't really matter Jan 18 05:03:17 i.e. you could use a 12v -> 5v adapter Jan 18 05:03:28 such as one of these cigar lighter phone charger adapter Jan 18 05:03:41 i've saw a crapload of these at a dollar store today Jan 18 05:07:44 yeah i'm using one Jan 18 05:07:48 no way would i use an inverter Jan 18 05:07:50 so inefficient Jan 18 05:08:14 bought a couple 2A capacity universal dc-dc adapters at best buy Jan 18 05:08:21 yea ok Jan 18 05:08:39 i have an inverter in the car but it's on switched power Jan 18 05:08:40 the last inverter i used started smoking as soon as i plugged it in Jan 18 05:08:45 i wouldn't ever use an inverter again Jan 18 05:08:50 for when friends bring laptops and don't have a dc-dc supply Jan 18 05:08:54 yea Jan 18 05:09:09 my laptop has a supply that accepts AC, auto and plane supplies Jan 18 05:09:12 it's pretty neat Jan 18 05:09:22 cool Jan 18 05:09:28 and this power supply is small too Jan 18 05:10:03 BogoMIPS : 132.71 Jan 18 05:10:04 hmmm :) Jan 18 05:10:13 remove it! =) Jan 18 05:10:15 time to take the screwdriver ... Jan 18 05:10:25 it doesn't have any screws Jan 18 05:10:30 or you mean to bash it w/ ? Jan 18 05:10:32 oh really Jan 18 05:10:35 yeah Jan 18 05:10:38 if you don't know how to open the case Jan 18 05:10:39 nah i didn't look how to open it yet Jan 18 05:10:41 be VERY careful Jan 18 05:10:44 i don't Jan 18 05:10:45 and read that wiki page Jan 18 05:10:50 ok i'll find it Jan 18 05:10:55 it was only through sheer luck i didn't break the tabs on mine the first time Jan 18 05:11:11 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OverClockTheSlug Jan 18 05:11:13 ok Jan 18 05:11:22 yeah there's a link on that page to one about opening the case Jan 18 05:11:49 yea got it http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OpenTheCase Jan 18 05:12:26 have fun Jan 18 05:12:28 bed time for bonzo Jan 18 06:11:22 does anyone here use rsnapshot for backups ? Jan 18 06:11:26 anyone can guide me in how to make the unslung slug beep? Jan 18 06:12:24 Set_Led Jan 18 06:12:44 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/SetLedOptions <-- Ken_slush Jan 18 06:13:02 ty Jan 18 06:14:49 wow i notice the CPU has a hardware random number generator, that rocks; if only my PC would have that (yes i have a use for it) Jan 18 06:15:22 Drj can you make it do more than just the one (or 3, kinda) beeps? Jan 18 06:15:47 Ken_slush, run the command twice (or more) Jan 18 06:15:51 lol! Jan 18 06:16:04 ~lobotomy Jan 18 06:16:13 ;) Jan 18 06:17:08 Set_Led beep3 Jan 18 06:17:11 that will do three Jan 18 06:17:14 say you want to do five Jan 18 06:17:17 Set_Led beep3 Jan 18 06:17:19 Set_Led beep2 Jan 18 06:17:31 you can do beep1/2/3 Jan 18 06:17:43 :) Jan 18 06:17:51 I guess I was looking for a cheep mp3 player Jan 18 06:17:54 ;) Jan 18 06:18:05 MIDI maybe Jan 18 06:18:45 thanx though thatll work sufficient Jan 18 06:31:00 well you can add a USB sound card Jan 18 06:31:06 people did this and are able to play MP3 and stuff Jan 18 06:36:15 you need slugos for that though Jan 18 06:46:50 I installed coreutils and procps, and now after reboot swap doesn't start automatically anymore... I guess i could hack the startup scripts and manually add it but anyone know what went wrong / how to fix it? Jan 18 06:46:59 thanks for the beep helo btw Jan 18 06:47:01 help Jan 18 06:47:53 \/etc/mtab looks right Jan 18 06:48:28 i'm thinking of integrating a Seagate ST1.2 8GB microdrive connected on a USB compactflash reader into my slug connected to the USB port 4; any objection ? Jan 18 06:48:35 i.e. did i miss something ? seems possible to me Jan 18 06:48:55 fstab looks good Jan 18 06:48:55 nb: i don't want to boot from it Jan 18 06:49:28 uski: did it not show up or something? Jan 18 06:49:55 Ken_slush, i didn't do it yet; i'm just asking before buying to have an idea if it will work or not Jan 18 06:50:12 i expect it will work just fine, but i prefer to check here as I have no experience with my slug Jan 18 06:50:20 uski: I should think it would work Jan 18 06:50:24 yea Jan 18 14:49:44 hi all Jan 18 14:50:36 hi all Jan 18 14:50:48 havin problem with unslung Jan 18 14:51:59 sto^: which kind? Jan 18 14:52:23 well when i type " ipkg update" Jan 18 14:52:41 # ipkg update Jan 18 14:52:43 Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/cross/stable/Packages.gz Jan 18 14:52:44 wget: ipkg.nslu2-linux.org: Host name lookup failure Jan 18 14:53:28 so i cant download the package Jan 18 14:53:32 sto^: write 'dig ipkg.nslu2-linux.org' Jan 18 14:53:41 wait Jan 18 14:53:45 sto^: k Jan 18 14:54:28 # dig ipkg.nslu2-linux.org Jan 18 14:54:29 -sh: dig: not found Jan 18 14:54:34 im noobish :( Jan 18 14:54:48 sto^: ping ' instead Jan 18 14:55:33 whats the host?? Jan 18 14:55:56 sto^: ipkg.nslu2-linux.org ! Jan 18 14:56:03 k :) sry Jan 18 14:56:35 ping: http://www.ipkg.nslu2-linux.org: Host name lookup failure Jan 18 14:58:15 ah wait Jan 18 14:58:29 * sto^ slaps himself Jan 18 14:58:49 ok no... Jan 18 14:59:02 forgot to type gateway... but didnt help Jan 18 14:59:18 SyNko: :) whitout http and www only ipkg.nslu2-linux.org Jan 18 15:00:40 nope doesnt work Jan 18 15:02:49 sto^: gimme a output of your ifconfig -a Jan 18 15:03:24 cant pm you Jan 18 15:05:06 sto^: ?? Jan 18 15:05:12 # ifconfig -a Jan 18 15:05:13 ixp0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:14:BF:65:A9:87 Jan 18 15:05:15 inet addr:192.168.1.77 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 Jan 18 15:05:16 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Jan 18 15:05:18 RX packets:4013 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 Jan 18 15:05:19 TX packets:2493 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Jan 18 15:05:21 collisions:0 txqueuelen:256 Jan 18 15:05:22 RX bytes:351980 (343.7 KiB) TX bytes:717187 (700.3 KiB) Jan 18 15:05:24 ixp1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:14:BF:65:A9:87 Jan 18 15:05:25 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Jan 18 15:05:27 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 Jan 18 15:05:29 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Jan 18 15:05:30 collisions:0 txqueuelen:256 Jan 18 15:05:31 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Jan 18 15:05:33 lo Link encap:Local Loopback Jan 18 15:05:35 inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 Jan 18 15:05:37 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 Jan 18 15:05:38 RX packets:184 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 Jan 18 15:05:40 TX packets:184 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Jan 18 15:05:41 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 Jan 18 15:05:43 RX bytes:14712 (14.3 KiB) TX bytes:14712 (14.3 KiB) Jan 18 15:06:41 : sto^: ok, 'route show' now Jan 18 15:07:03 n, e or A ?? Jan 18 15:07:51 sto^: uh ? Jan 18 15:08:05 # route show Jan 18 15:08:07 BusyBox v1.3.1 (2007-12-29 03:38:35 UTC) multi-call binary Jan 18 15:08:08 Usage: route [{add|del|delete}] Jan 18 15:08:10 Edit the kernel's routing tables. Jan 18 15:08:11 Options: Jan 18 15:08:13 -n Dont resolve names Jan 18 15:08:14 -e Display other/more information Jan 18 15:08:16 -A inet Select address family Jan 18 15:08:43 sto^: -e Jan 18 15:09:53 weird Jan 18 15:10:22 how to write? Jan 18 15:10:31 route show -e Jan 18 15:10:33 ?? Jan 18 15:11:10 sto^: try 'route -e' Jan 18 15:11:31 # route -e Jan 18 15:11:32 Kernel IP routing table Jan 18 15:11:34 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface Jan 18 15:11:35 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 ixp0 Jan 18 15:11:37 127.0.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 lo Jan 18 15:11:38 239.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 ixp0 Jan 18 15:11:40 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo Jan 18 15:11:42 default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 ixp0 Jan 18 15:12:07 sto^: bring it on , im working away from home my slug is turned off.. 'ping 192.168.1.1' Jan 18 15:12:51 192.168.1.1 is my router Jan 18 15:13:07 sto^: 'ping 192.168.1.1' Jan 18 15:13:23 ping 192.168.1.1 Jan 18 15:13:24 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes Jan 18 15:13:26 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=429496725.5 ms Jan 18 15:13:27 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.3 ms Jan 18 15:13:29 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.7 ms Jan 18 15:13:30 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=1.6 ms Jan 18 15:13:32 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1.4 ms Jan 18 15:13:33 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=1.5 ms Jan 18 15:13:35 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=1.4 ms Jan 18 15:13:36 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=1.3 ms Jan 18 15:13:38 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=1.8 ms Jan 18 15:13:39 --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- Jan 18 15:13:41 9 packets transmitted, 9 packets received, 0% packet loss Jan 18 15:13:42 round-trip min/avg/max = 1.3/0.8/429496725.5 ms Jan 18 15:15:31 hmm what portforwarding u have?? Jan 18 15:21:06 # ipkg update Jan 18 15:21:07 Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/cross/stable/Packages.gz Jan 18 15:21:09 Inflating http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/cross/stable/Packages.gz Jan 18 15:21:10 Updated list of available packages in /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/cross Jan 18 15:21:12 Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/native/stable/Packages.gz Jan 18 15:21:13 Inflating http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/native/stable/Packages.gz Jan 18 15:21:15 Updated list of available packages in /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/native Jan 18 15:21:16 Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/modules/cross/stable/Packages.gz Jan 18 15:21:18 Inflating http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/modules/cross/stable/Packages.gz Jan 18 15:21:20 Updated list of available packages in /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/oe Jan 18 15:21:21 is that how it should be? Jan 18 15:33:06 sto^: never post logs here Jan 18 15:33:12 use pastebin.ca for that Jan 18 15:33:20 oki sry Jan 18 15:35:10 sto^, it seems that there is a problem with the content of Packages.gz Jan 18 15:35:32 if you want to install a package, you will need to manually dl the package and then perform the install Jan 18 15:36:17 check if the package that you are looking for is available at http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/cross/stable/ Jan 18 15:36:57 ah kk Jan 18 15:42:43 np Jan 18 15:53:47 and how to install? Jan 18 15:53:52 i download it on my pc and then?? Jan 18 15:53:57 idk the putty commands :( Jan 18 15:58:19 sto^: putty doesnt have commands, only emulate a ssh client that use the setted sheel commands.. study moore bad guy :) Jan 18 15:58:41 :( Jan 18 17:42:37 Hello Jan 18 17:43:06 Anybody here Jan 18 17:44:40 :( Jan 18 17:47:54 Dennisb1, wassup? Jan 18 17:48:30 Well i got a quistion Jan 18 17:48:52 If i install unslung or any other firmware can i go back then to the originel linksys firmware if i want to? Jan 18 17:50:11 Also on the nlsu2-linux.org site somewhere noticed on the comparisation part i see that unslung uses the kernal 2.6 something but on the download site they note that it uses an old kernel 2.4? Jan 18 17:52:13 o wait that last thing is wrong Jan 18 17:52:25 but still its better to run a new kernal so no unslung? Jan 18 17:52:31 brb: dinner Jan 18 17:55:42 Dennisb1, you can always go back to the linksys firmware. Just have to reflash using upslug2/similar Jan 18 17:56:01 Dennisb1, unslung is 2.4 Jan 18 17:56:14 Some are 2.6.. As to whether its "better", it depends what you are doing Jan 18 18:00:28 Well i want to have a little webserver on it with php (use mysql on other server) Jan 18 18:01:08 and still the functionalitys from the originel firmware Jan 18 18:08:55 what do you need from the original firmware? Jan 18 18:09:35 Well... the storage functionality ofcourse thats all the orignel firmware can do lol Jan 18 18:10:29 Samba? That will give you the storage back Jan 18 18:10:31 And im not that great with ssh i got a linux server in the DC but dont understand samba and that stuff over ssh im sure that xorg wont work on the nslu2 lol Jan 18 18:10:34 and the other functionality isnt major.. Jan 18 18:10:56 well a webinterface would be nice Jan 18 18:12:41 And the origenal firmware dont supply me with ssh and i just want total control of something that i own... Jan 18 18:13:16 ssh gives more control than a web interface IMHO Jan 18 18:14:20 I know but i dont no allot of linux just the basic things and a webserver and some things i like to install like some software Jan 18 18:16:39 i guess unslung would be best since it has the orignel web interface Jan 18 18:16:57 im sure that somewhere i can upgrade the kernal Jan 18 18:18:06 if you're not familar with linux and like to use the original web interface, unslung is for you Jan 18 18:18:36 but with unslung, you're not going to be able to upgrade the kernel Jan 18 18:19:07 hmmm ok Jan 18 18:19:58 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/FirmwareMatrix Jan 18 18:20:12 yeah i found that a few minutes ago thx Jan 18 18:20:51 the only thing is bottering me... i have a 1000GB disk on the nslu2 at the moment only im scared that i need to reformat it totaly to have unslung installed Jan 18 18:21:02 and i dont have a spare 1000GB disk hehe Jan 18 18:21:47 Dennisb1, buy a small flash disk :) Jan 18 18:21:55 ~ 1GB or so Jan 18 18:21:58 Got lots of them... Jan 18 18:21:58 or even less Jan 18 18:22:03 * eno nod Jan 18 18:22:06 Use one of them as the unslung disk Jan 18 18:22:09 Saves loads of problems :) Jan 18 18:22:22 Yeah the only prob is the max reading times Jan 18 18:22:33 and writing Jan 18 18:22:34 Dennisb1, it will last a couple of years with swap turned off Jan 18 18:22:45 You can put swap on your hard drive if you need it Jan 18 18:22:50 ok great Jan 18 18:23:00 Im going to try to install it now Jan 18 18:23:03 brb Jan 18 18:23:07 :) Jan 18 19:06:30 Hmmm Jan 18 19:13:56 ? Jan 18 19:21:08 everything ok Dennisb1 ? Jan 18 19:24:01 Well thinking about the configuration Jan 18 19:24:11 im just uploading the firmware with the web interface Jan 18 19:24:15 so hold on:) Jan 18 19:24:51 And just Denis is fine Jan 18 19:26:56 Dennisb1, tab-completing your nick is faster than typing "Denis" :P Jan 18 19:27:02 yeah Jan 18 19:27:05 and it "pings" you Jan 18 19:27:10 ie gets your attention Jan 18 19:27:54 oh Jan 18 19:28:08 never been on irc Jan 18 19:28:57 and a typo :O its DenNis :P Jan 18 19:30:19 lol Jan 18 19:32:19 and its installed:D Jan 18 19:33:56 jnw openssh install :) Jan 18 19:33:56 :) Jan 18 19:34:05 have you unslung it to a flash disk? Jan 18 19:34:12 no Jan 18 19:34:22 no disks first on it Jan 18 19:34:31 yeah Jan 18 19:34:37 its now in the internal flash Jan 18 19:34:43 i wasnt sure how far you actually where, whether you'd just reflashed or whatever :) Jan 18 19:34:54 just simple install lol Jan 18 19:41:37 uNSLUng status: Running from Internal Flash Jan 18 19:41:48 hmm they dont tell me how to run from usb flash disk lol Jan 18 19:41:53 o well it runs Jan 18 19:42:28 Dennisb1, its in the readme with the firmware Jan 18 19:42:56 hmmm i cant login telnet with the default passwords :/ Jan 18 19:43:07 with no drives attached? Jan 18 19:43:17 root pass: uNSLUng Jan 18 19:45:32 oh thx Jan 18 19:46:07 wrong :/ Jan 18 19:46:20 oh Jan 18 19:46:24 3 times and it works lol Jan 18 19:46:55 a a message about the internal flash use Jan 18 19:47:13 yeah Jan 18 19:47:16 which is still true Jan 18 19:47:20 * Dennisb1 gets the big box and looks for a nice usb flash disk with all those crappy 32mb sticky's inside Jan 18 19:48:11 hmmm on what usb port is best hmm Jan 18 19:48:45 * Dennisb1 issearching the pages Jan 18 19:55:50 _caplink811, wheres capbot? Jan 18 20:13:02 Hmmm dos it matter on what port you do the flash disk Jan 18 20:13:12 it can, yes Jan 18 20:13:20 Hm? Jan 18 20:13:22 im listening Jan 18 20:13:34 hi, Reedy_Boy, there are some issues with one of the slugs, it seems that the ps is gone, but he should be back until end of month Jan 18 20:13:49 - Identify the drive or flash device to which you will be unslinging, and plug it in to the desired usb port Jan 18 20:13:50 so... Jan 18 20:14:04 ahh, joerg__ didnt know he was nslu2 powered :) Jan 18 20:14:43 Dennisb1, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/WhichUSBPortforUnslung6 Jan 18 20:15:00 sure, unslung-5.5 basically ;) Jan 18 20:15:07 :) Jan 18 20:15:14 What format is your large disk Dennisb1 ? Jan 18 20:15:16 The root device must be 512MB or larger in size.... Jan 18 20:15:19 damn it Jan 18 20:15:25 just found a nice 64mb disk lol Jan 18 20:15:41 you can get away with 256 at a push Jan 18 20:15:44 512mb makes life easier Jan 18 20:16:03 but i think 256 has issues when formatted on the unslung/linksys firmware Jan 18 20:17:39 hmmm i got one but i dont wnat to use it actaly well ok Jan 18 20:17:42 let me read the rules Jan 18 20:17:45 long story... Jan 18 20:19:26 hmmm first they tell to use port 2 and then port 1... Jan 18 20:19:35 but on both you have problems with the conf :/ Jan 18 20:19:41 yeah Jan 18 20:19:50 so... Jan 18 20:19:51 what format is your large drive in? ie what file system? Jan 18 20:19:54 im confused' Jan 18 20:20:02 ext3 Jan 18 20:20:58 if you dont want your nslu2 to be dependant on that drive connected, flash drive in port 1 Jan 18 20:22:16 well i dont actualy care i always let that disk connected Jan 18 20:22:24 but the best way is port 1 then Jan 18 20:22:34 because all ports are the same... Jan 18 20:23:36 but still i have to format my 512 stick brb Jan 18 20:24:08 or bigger but i dont see the use of that Jan 18 20:24:58 nah, 512 is sufficient Jan 18 20:29:46 ammit stupid file locks Jan 18 20:30:17 brb Jan 18 20:30:20 lol Jan 18 20:30:23 ill be back in a few Jan 18 20:36:58 Anyway to test network status in redboot? Jan 18 20:37:00 other than ping? Jan 18 20:40:10 wb Jan 18 20:40:18 wget? Jan 18 20:42:48 what about it? Jan 18 20:43:31 Anyway to test network status in redboot? Jan 18 20:43:35 well use wget... Jan 18 20:43:38 oh Jan 18 20:43:39 no Jan 18 20:43:42 theres ping Jan 18 20:43:44 and thats about it Jan 18 20:43:52 but ping doesnt seem to work Jan 18 20:43:59 hmm Jan 18 20:44:01 dns settings? Jan 18 20:44:02 i want to get the ethernet working for this one again Jan 18 20:44:06 its internal Jan 18 20:44:14 It works fine when its in unslung Jan 18 20:44:26 ive got a serial console onto it so can do commands Jan 18 20:44:27 hehehe :P Jan 18 20:44:32 just cant ping it, ping out... Jan 18 20:44:33 lol Jan 18 20:44:51 format takes age's.... Jan 18 20:45:03 hmm dont know you checkt dmesg? Jan 18 20:45:54 lol Jan 18 20:46:01 do you know what redboot is? Jan 18 20:46:07 a little Jan 18 20:46:19 its the boot sector of linux or something in that way Jan 18 20:46:22 yeah Jan 18 20:46:24 its very limited in what it has.. Jan 18 20:47:10 Jees Jan 18 20:47:19 it was june 2006 i was having the problems :|http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/message/4728 Jan 18 20:49:10 your sam? Jan 18 20:49:46 im sam Jan 18 20:50:17 ah hello sam Jan 18 20:50:18 :P Jan 18 20:51:02 :P Jan 18 20:51:20 Enter the new password (minimum of 5, maximum of 8 characters) dammit Jan 18 20:51:24 i hate that minimum Jan 18 20:51:59 lol Jan 18 20:52:07 password is long enough ;) Jan 18 20:52:47 hehehehe :P Jan 18 20:55:50 Please go to the web interface, and format the drive before thats the 3time im formating.. Jan 18 20:55:51 damit Jan 18 20:56:31 does it show "formatted" Jan 18 20:56:38 yes Jan 18 20:56:42 already 3 times lol Jan 18 20:56:48 should be fine then :/ Jan 18 20:56:52 you are using the right unsling script Jan 18 20:56:54 yeah yought so too Jan 18 20:57:19 hmmon windows it ses that there 3 partitions been made Jan 18 20:57:27 well formating to ntfs and trying again Jan 18 20:59:15 hmm it says it formated but its not now lol let me reboot it :/ Jan 18 20:59:55 :S Jan 18 20:59:58 whatya mean? Jan 18 21:00:17 well i formated it back to ntfs on my pc and the slug sitll tells me its formated as ext3 lol Jan 18 21:00:58 o great it dont boot Jan 18 21:00:59 lol Jan 18 21:01:14 you shouldnt boot it with the disk attached before its unslung Jan 18 21:01:22 o my mistake Jan 18 21:03:31 ah it works Jan 18 21:03:50 i guess at least... no beep but no flashing light Jan 18 21:04:16 and it flashes again Jan 18 21:04:19 :/ Jan 18 21:05:03 linux.... 1 weird world.. Jan 18 21:05:05 o a beepp Jan 18 21:07:44 woops Jan 18 21:08:00 forgot my laptop battery lol Jan 18 21:09:26 lol Jan 18 21:09:57 to busy to look at the flash lights :$ Jan 18 21:11:37 dammit stupid root password Jan 18 21:11:50 i cant login anymore :/ Jan 18 21:12:11 oh password is dammit Jan 18 21:15:25 w00t is loaded from flash disk Jan 18 21:15:31 that takes forever to boot :/ Jan 18 21:17:02 ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-GC39WT http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/cross/stable/Packages.gz' nice... Jan 18 21:17:15 have you set the gateway and DNS servers? Jan 18 21:17:17 oh dnssettings Jan 18 21:17:20 hehehe :P Jan 18 21:22:26 hmmm now apache... Jan 18 21:25:59 how many ram is there? Jan 18 21:26:15 32mb Jan 18 21:26:18 IIRC Jan 18 21:26:21 thats not allot.. Jan 18 21:26:24 iirc? Jan 18 21:26:57 if i recall correctly Jan 18 21:27:03 ah Jan 18 21:28:51 but what if if.. something gos wrong is it still warrenty? Jan 18 21:29:46 you mean with the custom firmware on? Jan 18 21:29:51 yeah Jan 18 21:30:00 they may accept it with it on Jan 18 21:30:07 depending on what went wrong Jan 18 21:30:17 you will probably be able to get it back onto stock firmware Jan 18 21:30:18 hmm ok Jan 18 21:30:22 then its good as new :) Jan 18 21:30:29 yeah if it works yeah lol Jan 18 21:30:31 ive heard of very few having rpoblems Jan 18 21:30:47 yeah well im not making that thingy open to have jtag and stuff Jan 18 21:30:49 not my thing Jan 18 21:30:57 heh :) Jan 18 21:31:19 As long as you dont use linksys' erase all... you shouldnt get to needing it Jan 18 21:31:21 got a router too that have it well i readed the manual well youneed a power converter an more.. Jan 18 21:31:37 Yeah i actualy wonderd why they supply it with the cd Jan 18 21:33:38 god knows Jan 18 21:33:50 but what is the use of it :/ Jan 18 21:34:45 yeah it ereases the flash but.. Jan 18 21:34:54 sorry bad englishh Jan 18 21:34:56 hehe Jan 18 21:35:12 I think they knew the linux community would take it on Jan 18 21:35:15 (the nslu2) Jan 18 21:35:29 so they thought they would give them something to laugh at people who've used it Jan 18 21:35:36 hmmm how stupid Jan 18 21:37:03 so the "noobs" will suffer on it as they will install it and try to use it as its part of the instalation... Jan 18 21:39:06 no.. Jan 18 21:39:10 its not part of the installtion Jan 18 21:39:19 its what linksys reccommends if something goes wrong AFAIK Jan 18 21:40:54 hmm Jan 18 21:42:14 well this is stupid.. Jan 18 21:42:27 http://192.168.2.10/Management/ when i go there i can manage the http files from the linksys management Jan 18 21:43:12 :S Jan 18 21:43:38 try it at your own nslu2 lol then you are at a diectory of the http fileshehe Jan 18 21:43:41 hehe Jan 18 21:43:55 not when i last tried.. Jan 18 21:43:57 moment Jan 18 21:44:05 well here it is lol Jan 18 21:46:12 Oh, yeah Jan 18 21:46:13 lol Jan 18 21:46:22 ugly buttons Jan 18 21:47:09 Awww, how nice of WD - a guide how to plug in a usb cable and a power cable Jan 18 21:47:25 hahahahaha thats very nice Jan 18 21:47:32 special for you :P Jan 18 21:48:47 i was just about to whine that the power supply was a eu with an adapter Jan 18 21:48:53 but the plug is interchangable Jan 18 21:48:57 and it hasnt got a middle box :) Jan 18 21:49:05 hehe Jan 18 21:49:22 your not from eu? Jan 18 21:49:28 yeah, im in UK Jan 18 21:49:31 ah Jan 18 21:49:31 we have 3 prong Jan 18 21:49:42 ah here 2 Jan 18 21:49:48 NL Jan 18 21:49:57 ive got a nice 500GB western digitial MyBook Essential :) Jan 18 21:50:01 for my NSLU" Jan 18 21:50:01 2 Jan 18 21:50:11 ah seen it today in store Jan 18 21:50:19 its cinda bug Jan 18 21:50:20 big Jan 18 21:50:27 this isnt overly, i wouldnt say Jan 18 21:50:34 the new style, with the morse code around the edge? Jan 18 21:51:10 http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4TJL&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=mybook&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0 Jan 18 21:51:46 no thats ot it what i seen today Jan 18 21:52:20 not* Jan 18 21:52:29 heh Jan 18 21:54:11 okay Jan 18 21:54:21 ? Jan 18 21:54:25 anyone know how I can make the slug beep with SlugOSBE Jan 18 21:56:11 beep? Jan 18 21:56:13 why beep Jan 18 21:56:15 beepbeep Jan 18 21:56:28 well you know Jan 18 21:56:33 with unslung its Set_Led Jan 18 21:56:51 hm Jan 18 21:57:45 i know one guy who would know if its possible, and if so whats the command... Jan 18 21:57:50 but i aint pinging him Jan 18 21:58:04 lol? Jan 18 21:58:14 one of the dev's Jan 18 21:58:31 DrJ would probably know too Jan 18 21:59:44 echo $'\a' > /dev/tty1 works on debian hehe Jan 18 21:59:51 Well i would like to thank you for your time and help but i need to take some sleep as i need to wake up early 7:00AM GMT+1 Jan 18 22:00:13 no problem :) Jan 18 22:00:18 Bye all :) Jan 18 22:01:59 DrJ: "leds beep" Jan 18 22:02:13 :) Jan 18 22:02:33 that means i was right... Jan 18 22:03:29 DrJ: Use "leds beep -h" to get help on how to use it. Dunno if that works on 3.10, but you can play a tune on 4.8 if you wish. That's the command that signals the completion of bootup of SlugOS; the script sends a morse code "K". Jan 18 22:03:34 cool, ty mwester Jan 18 22:03:57 oh, is that what that little tune is :) Jan 18 22:04:32 haha Jan 18 22:05:11 oh my Jan 18 22:05:18 * DrJ shall write a song Jan 18 22:05:21 haha Jan 18 22:05:40 it'll probably play midi sound... Jan 19 01:45:37 my nslu2 wont boot :( it freezes with the status light being yellow and the ethernet green Jan 19 01:53:29 have you tried reflashing the firmware Jan 19 02:04:39 i am now Jan 19 02:04:40 :/ Jan 19 02:05:24 :) Jan 19 02:08:13 keep us posted Jan 19 02:09:55 flashing rom and now its verifying :o Jan 19 02:09:58 debian hackery Jan 19 02:10:08 does the init scripts rely on the hostname? Jan 19 02:10:26 cause i did 'echo d0ngmaster > /etc/hostname' Jan 19 02:10:28 for kicks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 19 02:59:56 2008