**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 26 02:59:57 2008 Jan 26 05:31:45 Hello Jan 26 05:33:43 Question: Can I get the binary files from somebody for the sg3-utils package ( so I don't have to install all the native build environment for one package )? Jan 26 05:34:54 Because it seems like a bit of an effort just for one program.. :) Jan 26 12:21:36 Hi! Someone having AngstromLE-2007.12 up and running? Jan 26 12:22:37 For me it does not boot - disk LEDs are flashing and then only the orange LED stays on... (that's all on a slug) Jan 26 13:38:42 Hi. Jan 26 13:38:57 I updated a few packages and have a new kernel in /boot Jan 26 13:39:06 yet, it gets not booted (it uses the old one) Jan 26 13:39:09 what am I missing? Jan 26 13:41:24 which distro? Jan 26 13:42:46 SM_Barbie: SlugOS, Debian, Unslung, Angstrom? Jan 26 13:43:17 SlugOS 4.7-beta Jan 26 13:45:05 ok, I found some documentation on this Jan 26 13:46:23 SM_Barbie: AFAIK you need to reflash the slug Jan 26 13:46:49 as SlugOS does not use APEX Jan 26 13:48:34 that's what http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/SlugOS/Upgrade suggests indeed Jan 26 14:23:26 Anyone tried the Angstrom-2007.12 images yet? I have issues logging in - the empty password is not accepted. Jan 26 15:29:49 Me again. ;) Jan 26 15:30:07 I just found a quite huge list of 'task-nas-*' packages Jan 26 15:30:11 what's that? Jan 26 15:30:19 (because it also includes a nfsd) Jan 26 17:53:37 zny debian users here? Jan 26 18:07:13 What's zny debian? Another variation of Debian? Jan 26 18:07:21 any* Jan 26 18:07:28 i just about top install it to slug Jan 26 18:08:17 Ah. The wiki has the server for the #arm-debian channel; that's where the debian NSLU2 users would likely hang about. Jan 26 18:08:34 (it's not a freenode server, IIRC) Jan 26 18:08:43 k Jan 26 18:11:51 any idea on formating partitions? i got 2 write over my existign ones. (formated with stock firmware)... or can i use them>? Jan 26 18:21:50 anyone know about what partitions i should format/create for debian? Jan 26 18:22:20 daveyboy_: ext3, for example Jan 26 18:22:52 simplest setup: 1 general partition, 1 swap partition Jan 26 18:23:27 (swap partition is not ext3, of course) Jan 26 18:24:01 right, but i dont seem to get taht option to be honets. its listing partiirins already on (dev/mtdbloc0 to dev/mntdblock5) Jan 26 18:25:04 if you don't care about any data already on the disk, just repartition it to your needs. Jan 26 18:25:08 if i select one of them, i get messgae saying i have selceted entire devive to partition Jan 26 18:25:17 ah Jan 26 18:25:28 yea thats fine on this hdd (ddo i need to do the same for my 500 gig hdd cos that would be a problem Jan 26 18:25:43 its ext3 Jan 26 18:26:04 no, but where the 0-5 come from.. ? Jan 26 18:26:26 I have no experience with debian on the slug Jan 26 18:26:48 not sure. i had bit of a foo bar install of unslung for some reason... got pissed off with unslung hence using proper linux firmware Jan 26 18:28:38 also the sizes of these partitions are odd. bigest is 6.3 mb. want to remove partitions and create new, but there didnt seem to be option for that Jan 26 18:30:20 i honestly have no idea Jan 26 18:30:40 humm.. where is reedy boy when u need him! Jan 26 18:30:45 daveyboy_: don't be repartitioning the internal flash. That's not a good thing to do. Jan 26 18:31:05 thought about that for a second, too... Jan 26 18:31:36 ah good point.... that is obv what its refering to. hence size. well i cnat work out why its asking me what to do here Jan 26 18:32:11 Your disk should be /dev/sda Jan 26 18:32:19 its not listed Jan 26 18:32:36 /dev/mtdblock is the internal flash (Memory Technology Device == mtd, IIRC) Jan 26 18:32:50 Then it didn't detect your disk. Jan 26 18:33:02 humm odd Jan 26 18:33:15 let me reste and rerun installer Jan 26 18:41:09 nope. still not recognised Jan 26 18:41:26 mindu would it nessasarily be looked for during this install? Jan 26 18:45:38 what is everyone running on their slug by the way. realising that unslung is not as robust as i need, so looking for proper alternatives Jan 26 18:48:27 I use SlugosBE, but currently experiment with Angstrom. For me its important that I don't need the HD running 24h/d but have the system on a USB stick. I need to compile quite a few packages myself however... Jan 26 18:52:22 hum... im looking at BE as well instead of debian.. would u recomend? dont want 2 compile, hoever i only need few things 9torrent client (preferably with gui for gf)... ftp server, thats about it Jan 26 19:04:11 :D got it./ wasnt loading usb external hdd module Jan 26 19:19:59 Hallo all i am trying to get castget to be ran with crontab but i can't get it to work. Any body care to help? Jan 26 19:41:53 hey hey reedy Jan 26 19:45:06 loo Jan 26 19:45:24 installing debian atm :D Jan 26 19:46:42 what options do i want to install/exclude.... just web server, file server and standard system? Jan 26 19:47:02 nah Jan 26 19:47:05 dont select any of them Jan 26 19:47:21 web server would install apache and such.. file server NFS/samba IIRC and standard would load desktop stuff Jan 26 19:47:28 none of which are worth doing during the install Jan 26 19:47:31 standard system was already selected. shall i remove.... what about file server. i do want that Jan 26 19:47:32 oh ok Jan 26 19:47:34 yeah Jan 26 19:47:37 deselct them all Jan 26 19:47:45 anything you do need, you can add with apt-get Jan 26 19:47:47 k Jan 26 19:48:16 almost there :) Jan 26 19:48:22 yeah Jan 26 19:48:35 not much input, but it'll take a while Jan 26 19:49:02 i unplugged my 500 gig hdd so nothing bad could happen during install, its ext3. will it mount automatically when i plug it in? Jan 26 19:49:30 dits got aLL music/tv on so didnt want it to format or loose anything Jan 26 19:50:35 it wont mount it Jan 26 19:50:39 but it should detect it Jan 26 19:50:46 lsusb should show you the usb detection Jan 26 19:50:56 fdisk -l should show it as /dev/sdb1 Jan 26 19:51:05 then mount /dev/sb1 /mnt/wherever Jan 26 19:52:33 daveyboy_, i'll be back in a bit Jan 26 19:52:36 got to walk the dogs Jan 26 19:53:32 no probs. i cooking tea anyway Jan 26 20:16:43 hi all. I have reinstalled my Slug with slugosLE and optware/rtorrent fails with the problem described in http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ticket/840 . Is anyone aware of fixed packages for this slugos variant? Jan 26 20:18:39 nomis: see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/BitTorrent Jan 26 20:20:28 eno: that one refers to slugosbe (not slugosle) for fixed packages. Jan 26 20:21:07 http://www.mediamax.com/bzhou/Hosted/optware/slugosle/libtorrent_0.11.9%2Br1027-11_arm.ipk Jan 26 20:21:45 eno: cool, thanks. Jan 26 20:22:06 can you add a link to the wiki? Jan 26 20:22:14 eno: yeah. Jan 26 20:26:21 fixed, I changed the link to point to ...optware/ Jan 26 21:08:50 anyone know what standard user/pass should be for samba (not cedited config yet) Jan 26 21:12:21 daveyboy_, whatya mean Jan 26 21:14:21 well i just installed samba, and it now appears in network on xp. but its asking for user pas... just reading guide now and looks like i have to specify users Jan 26 21:16:53 yeah Jan 26 21:17:08 the default config is rather over complicated Jan 26 21:17:19 right. i just added guest user and password Jan 26 21:17:48 daveyboy_, http://www.pastey.net/81333 is my current one Jan 26 21:18:13 with it having "guest ok" atm, its not the most secure Jan 26 21:19:07 you may find install SWAT useful Jan 26 21:19:25 nope. but ill do same for now.. is that your whole config file (did u delete everything else).... also i plugged in 2nd hard drive, how can i check it via command line? where should i look? Jan 26 21:19:42 thats my current whole config, yes Jan 26 21:19:53 simplified by SWAT.. then i changed a few bits manually Jan 26 21:19:56 fdisk -l Jan 26 21:19:59 right ok. was going to install swat as well. heard its udefull Jan 26 21:20:09 should show if its attached/recognised Jan 26 21:20:09 aint fdisk format? Jan 26 21:20:13 no Jan 26 21:20:13 ah ok Jan 26 21:20:19 mkfs would be formatting Jan 26 21:20:24 fdisk can be used for partitioning Jan 26 21:20:29 but -l just lists partitions Jan 26 21:21:27 right hdd not recogniced, mind you i did plug it in after i booted. shall i reboot and see if its mounted now Jan 26 21:21:38 you shouldnt "need" to reboot Jan 26 21:21:43 it should hotplug Jan 26 21:21:47 lsusb Jan 26 21:21:55 does that show anything that looks like your HD? Jan 26 21:22:42 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Jan 26 21:22:42 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Jan 26 21:22:42 Bus 003 Device 002: ID 152d:2338 Jan 26 21:22:51 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Jan 26 21:23:44 Which port is each drive on? Jan 26 21:24:02 as my os drive is in port1 Jan 26 21:24:02 Bus 003 Device 002: ID 05e3:0702 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 2.0 IDE Adapter Jan 26 21:24:49 my os disk is on usb 2 and my 500 gig is on usb1... im an idiot. i turned it on but usb wasnt plugged in Jan 26 21:24:51 let me check now Jan 26 21:25:49 well in 2 secs, just installing swat. by way think dibian packages are v good. been impressed with whole user friendlyness of it Jan 26 21:26:00 lol Jan 26 21:26:27 The following line will be added to your /etc/inetd.conf file: Jan 26 21:26:27 swat\t\tstream\ttcp\tnowait.400\troot\t/usr/sbin/tcpd\t/usr/sbin/swat Jan 26 21:26:27 If you are indeed using xinetd, you will have to convert the Jan 26 21:26:27 above into /etc/xinetd.conf format, and add it manually. See Jan 26 21:27:00 nothing to do... it just doesnt start swat automatically IIRC Jan 26 21:30:37 just type swat to start? Jan 26 21:31:48 swat 901/tcp Jan 26 21:31:50 probably Jan 26 21:34:07 cool got swat running :) Jan 26 21:36:11 does anyone know how mount maps UUIDs to device names? Does it use /etc/blkid.tab for this? Jan 26 21:44:32 i hae swat running, you need to copy over a file and restart xinetd Jan 26 21:45:18 or just restart it Jan 26 21:45:25 it being the machine Jan 26 21:45:54 there's no reason to restart the slug Jan 26 21:46:09 i know, but its another way Jan 26 21:46:12 if your feeling lazy Jan 26 21:48:20 reedy, where would i set as the share to my 2nd hard drive, you got yours listed in mnt but my mnt folder is empty Jan 26 21:49:08 you need to create a mount point (ie a folder) and mount the drive to it Jan 26 21:49:38 like Jan 26 21:49:43 mkdir /mnt/harddrive Jan 26 21:49:50 mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/harddrive Jan 26 21:49:54 got u Jan 26 21:51:00 good lad :D Jan 26 21:56:08 brb Jan 26 22:11:51 grr having probs reedy. cant log in via ssh now i rebooted slug Jan 26 22:14:33 found it. it was mnting 2nd hard drive first i think Jan 26 22:14:52 maybe Jan 26 22:15:05 ive had it once or twice where with both drives it wouldnt boot Jan 26 22:15:13 but its not like every time Jan 26 22:16:56 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/TroubleShooting Jan 26 22:17:14 slug fails to boot with 2 drives connected Jan 26 22:22:15 Daveyboy: I have the same problem here. the following *might* help (have not yet fully understood this) Jan 26 22:22:45 Daveyboy: unplug your non-boot drive, boot, do "turnup flash". Jan 26 22:22:54 Daveyboy: then connect the drive again and reboot into the flash. Jan 26 22:23:20 Daveyboy: then enter "blkid". This updates /etc/blkid.tab Jan 26 22:23:56 Daveyboy: then turnup back to your actual boot device. (Note that it might have a different ID now) Jan 26 22:24:10 Daveyboy: The next reboot did work for me. Jan 26 22:24:25 right. ill try that in bet. cheers :) Jan 26 22:24:32 just trying to get samba working right now Jan 26 22:25:00 Daveyboy: I have not yet examined this exactly but *if* mount uses /etc/blkid.tab to map the UUIDs to devices then this might help (but you must never switch usb plugs around then) Jan 26 22:25:18 for some reason when i go to slug via network in slug, it used to have user as a textbox, but now its grayed out with /dlug/david in there..... but i aint got a user called david...its dave Jan 26 22:25:19 something is broken with the mount-by-uuid. Jan 26 22:26:12 (/me has no serial connection to the slug, so I cannot really follow the boot process) Jan 26 22:36:03 right. found half the problem... smbpassword has user listed as david with encripted password. can i just delete this file and recreate? Jan 26 22:36:24 the samba users are sorta different users Jan 26 22:36:47 nomis, "The slug fails to reboot with 2 drives connected" http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/TroubleShooting Jan 26 22:36:53 is a bit simpler and such.. Jan 26 22:37:11 yea, but i cant find password for that. its encripted Jan 26 22:37:27 you can set them in swat Jan 26 22:39:04 yea but xp automatically putting david as username Jan 26 22:39:14 i added user david just now to try and sort the problem Jan 26 22:39:18 try map a network drive Jan 26 22:39:22 then "connect as" Jan 26 22:39:42 Reedy_Boy: not sure if this maps the same way to Slugos. There are different scripts running and the boot process is different from Debian - at least as far as I can see. Jan 26 22:40:01 oh, your on SlugOS, my apologies Jan 26 22:41:10 Slugos seems to first boot into the internal flash and read the /linuxrc from there. This already has the UUID from the root filesystem in there, but (hence my question earlier) I am unsure how mount maps that back to a device. Jan 26 22:41:46 if mwester is about, he'll possibly know Jan 26 22:41:51 nope. can only see slug (cant press "+" to reveal shares) and it wont let me add just the server name (slug) Jan 26 22:42:10 :S Jan 26 22:42:37 could try getting it to work "badly" then sort the security later Jan 26 22:42:37 can i delete the smbpasswiord file and use tool to rectreae? Jan 26 22:42:39 thats what im doing Jan 26 22:42:44 presumably.. Jan 26 22:42:53 ill try that. what am i missing to get it working badly? Jan 26 22:43:14 god knows Jan 26 22:43:21 ive just set it in the semi-insecure manor as it doesnt matter to me atm Jan 26 22:46:48 cant find pasword backend option via swat Jan 26 22:47:42 im sure there is Jan 26 22:47:44 other than that Jan 26 22:47:50 the command line is smbpasswd Jan 26 22:47:51 IIRC Jan 26 22:48:09 found it. it was in advanced. setting mine to be tdbsam same as ures Jan 26 22:58:23 FFS ..... still listing /dlug/david in xp conetion to slug/... grr i dont wanna conect under that name :@! Jan 26 22:59:14 do a mount network drive... Jan 26 22:59:18 then connect as Jan 26 23:01:40 doesnt matter.... because its not showing shares yet, so i cant add it (you cant add the server name, need the shares listed) Jan 26 23:02:53 http://www.pastebin.ca/873909 Jan 26 23:03:50 make it avaliable Jan 26 23:03:53 avaliable = Yes Jan 26 23:04:09 and you mayaswell remove the printer bit Jan 26 23:04:15 /etc/samba/smb.conf Jan 26 23:05:00 yea editing by hand now Jan 26 23:05:11 http://www.pastebin.ca/873910 Jan 26 23:08:14 nope nothing Jan 26 23:08:25 might restart pc and see Jan 26 23:08:37 brb Jan 26 23:16:56 daveyboy_, you probably just could've restarted the samba services via swat Jan 26 23:17:27 sucsess reedy... xp wasnt refreshing. linux all the way eh ;) Jan 26 23:17:55 lol Jan 26 23:18:25 i tried that. it was just xp being gay Jan 26 23:19:00 right thast mission1 accomplished for debian. next is torrent client. what was state of lay u were esaying about rtorrent? Jan 26 23:19:49 needs me to have some free time (hopefully tommorow), get the cross compile system setup, and poke Mr Zhou for some help to make sure i do it right Jan 26 23:20:56 ha no probs. is that best option for torrent client or is tehre another 1 i should try for debian? Jan 26 23:21:07 i dunno Jan 26 23:21:12 i havent really looked into it Jan 26 23:21:21 rtorrent seems to be the best recommened client Jan 26 23:21:39 fair play Jan 26 23:22:04 going to sort out the problem with boot picking up wrong hdd (does it every timer for me) Jan 26 23:22:11 yeah Jan 26 23:22:33 daveyboy_, that guide in that link you posted above is only a 5 minute job or so Jan 26 23:22:41 just waiting for it to complete the stuff :) Jan 26 23:22:49 ive just done it as i have the same problems Jan 26 23:23:02 cool. i restarted so lost link.. u got it to hand... if not i can always find it again Jan 26 23:23:15 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/TroubleShooting Jan 26 23:25:43 cheers Jan 26 23:26:22 by way, has debian got decent ftp server included or u know of good 1... i wnat 2 be able to access files remotely) Jan 26 23:26:59 theres a few Jan 26 23:27:43 http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ftp&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all Jan 26 23:27:52 As for reccommendations, i cant really comment.. Jan 26 23:28:18 daveyboy_: i built and installed latest optware rtorrent on debian etch last night, it starts fine with xmlrpc configuration Jan 26 23:28:46 :) Jan 26 23:29:14 ooo wheres that located and where do i get it? Jan 26 23:29:38 right now, you'll need to build it Jan 26 23:30:04 because of dependencies, there're about a dozen ipk's Jan 26 23:30:31 i can tar it up and upload it somewhere Jan 26 23:32:32 might as well make a start sorting mine out for cross compiling.. Jan 26 23:33:41 yeah, set up a cross compilation environment would be the best Jan 26 23:33:45 eno, on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/UseDistCCWithCrossCompiler, the "armeb host" would presumably be the NSLU2? Jan 26 23:34:28 probably, but the official debian on slug is little endian Jan 26 23:35:38 but i still need build-essentials and distcc installing on my nslu2? Jan 26 23:35:47 Reedy_Boy: optware build environment and distcc are quite independent Jan 26 23:36:10 optware is pretty much all cross Jan 26 23:36:27 distcc is for speeding up native build Jan 26 23:36:46 yeah Jan 26 23:37:20 if getting optware/cs04q3armel up is your goal, you don't need to install build-essential and distcc Jan 26 23:37:56 not on the slug Jan 26 23:38:39 oh, ok then Jan 26 23:40:22 is it all done on the machine being used to build based on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/DebianArmEtch Jan 26 23:40:34 yes Jan 26 23:41:54 sorry guys was just sawy. what did we decide. did u say you could put it somewhere that would for me. somethig suitable for debian? Jan 26 23:42:01 away* Jan 26 23:42:08 yeah, is possibl;e Jan 26 23:42:30 daveyboy_: doing that right now Jan 26 23:42:37 ure a star!. cheers Jan 26 23:48:13 reedy, just following insturions on that site for boot probs... listed tree/dev/disk ... do i use that info to edit the dev/sda1 Jan 26 23:48:21 yeah Jan 26 23:48:29 the one against /dev/sda1 Jan 26 23:50:07 humm. not following. where is file located that needs editing? Jan 26 23:50:16 /etc/fstab Jan 26 23:50:51 yea realised after i typed. my bad Jan 26 23:52:09 http://www.pastebin.ca/873956 (this is my original fstab) Jan 26 23:53:08 and this is the tree output http://www.pastebin.ca/873957 Jan 26 23:53:48 060b2d1c-0a06-499c-922a-58bfb16b5337 Jan 26 23:53:52 hmm, mediamax uploading is not working right away Jan 26 23:54:24 daveyboy_, http://www.pastebin.ca/873958 Jan 26 23:54:25 use that Jan 26 23:54:42 eno, encounted a problem Jan 26 23:54:51 pastebin Jan 26 23:54:55 yeah, moment Jan 26 23:55:03 grr Jan 26 23:55:09 copy paste isnt working between virtual pc Jan 26 23:55:26 cheers reedy Jan 26 23:55:51 libtoolize, aclocal-1.9, autoconf, autoheader, automake-1.9 all command not found Jan 26 23:56:09 during make ipkg-opt-ipk Jan 26 23:56:14 apt-get install build-essential Jan 26 23:56:15 Presumably im missing some packages i need? Jan 26 23:56:58 daveyboy_, as you'll see, i left the old line commented incase you need it later Jan 26 23:57:29 yea cheers :) Jan 26 23:58:20 Reedy_Boy: see "master makefile" setup-host-ubuntu for the full list Jan 26 23:59:08 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile Jan 26 23:59:51 that list maybe more than what's actually needed for optware development Jan 27 00:00:46 by way did update-initramfs -u take long time? not sure if its hanging or just takes while Jan 27 00:01:03 eno, its not major, its a VMWare pc, so im not bothered, thanks :) Jan 27 00:01:13 its takes a few minutes Jan 27 00:01:13 yeah Jan 27 00:03:38 eno thats working further :) Jan 27 00:04:37 eno, Build package (don't forget all the dependency packages); update feed index. Jan 27 00:04:50 Presumably, i need to work through each dependancy of rtorrent? Jan 27 00:05:21 you can start from "make rtorrent-ipk" Jan 27 00:05:39 ah, ok :) Jan 27 00:05:41 once that's built, look at the builds/ directory Jan 27 00:06:08 all dependencies should have been built, just not packaged Jan 27 00:06:19 ok Jan 27 00:06:31 "rm -f builds/Pa*; make index PACKAGE_DIR=builds Jan 27 00:06:31 " - presumably thats after the dependancies are sorted out? Jan 27 00:06:32 you can work your way, like "make libtorrent-ipk" Jan 27 00:07:15 yeah, that's when you want to prepare a directory of ipk's to serve as a feed Jan 27 00:07:24 righto :) Jan 27 00:08:00 grr now its mounted hdd1 (boot hard drive thats n usb2) as the mount point i set in samba config Jan 27 00:10:55 did you add that to the fstab? Jan 27 00:11:12 yea. i ran fdisk and its listing both hard drives Jan 27 00:11:22 let me check its been commited to fstab Jan 27 00:11:31 did you add the line to fstab for the other drive? Jan 27 00:11:56 i dont think so. i used the stuff u pastebined Jan 27 00:12:37 it has booted with 2 hard drives attached so thats working Jan 27 00:12:52 think its with my mount that i ran when i rebooted Jan 27 00:13:12 ok Jan 27 00:13:16 its mounted wrong hdd.... shoudl i just unmount that and remount correct drive Jan 27 00:14:40 eno, so this sort of ends up, after ive manually setup ipkg using that tutorial Jan 27 00:15:00 that it will install ipkg packages from my local repo, ie from what i have built? Jan 27 00:15:13 yes Jan 27 00:15:21 cool, thanks :) Jan 27 00:16:13 to get familiar with the prcess, you can build a single no-dependency ipk, plus ipkg-opt Jan 27 00:16:31 sounds like a good idea Jan 27 00:16:32 and try install it, a good candidate is which.ipk Jan 27 00:16:43 just "make which-ipk" Jan 27 00:17:18 will do, this is still working away :) Jan 27 00:17:33 right got it mounted now. should i edit something so its mounted on boot? Jan 27 00:17:41 yeah Jan 27 00:17:44 you can use fstab Jan 27 00:17:49 should Jan 27 00:18:06 /dev/sdb1 to where? Jan 27 00:18:16 mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/harddrive Jan 27 00:18:26 thats command i used to mount correctly Jan 27 00:18:55 /dev/sda1 /mnt/harddrive Jan 27 00:18:57 arrgh Jan 27 00:19:10 http://www.pastebin.ca/873973 Jan 27 00:19:25 sda1 Jan 27 00:19:30 why you mounting that again? Jan 27 00:19:37 upload to mediamax finally appeared, can any1 try http://www.mediamax.com/bzhou/Hosted/optware/cs04q3armel/ Jan 27 00:19:39 surely its sdb for the different drive Jan 27 00:20:20 usb1 is my 500gb drive, usb2 is 120 boot hdd Jan 27 00:20:21 you can even use the above URL as feed Jan 27 00:20:31 eno, theres a list of packages there :) Jan 27 00:20:54 yep, including Packages* Jan 27 00:21:19 my build has stopped again.. Jan 27 00:22:15 [canvas.o] error 1 Jan 27 00:22:48 ok, there might be one build time dependency missing Jan 27 00:22:49 reporting a few things as undeclared before in canvas.cc Jan 27 00:22:58 manually do "make ncurses-stage" Jan 27 00:23:31 will fix that the next time i change rtorrent.mk Jan 27 00:23:50 ok, thanks :) Jan 27 00:25:50 eno, the ncurses is done.. Jan 27 00:26:01 can i do the make rtorrent-ipk and it will continue again? Jan 27 00:26:02 the "make rtorrent-ipk" again Jan 27 00:28:30 cool, thats worked Jan 27 00:28:39 now build each of the other files in "build" to get an ipk? Jan 27 00:28:44 *make each Jan 27 00:29:34 it is.. :) Jan 27 00:29:37 yes, "make zlib-ipk xmlrpc-c-ipk" ... Jan 27 00:30:25 thanks Jan 27 00:30:29 the list should be like the packages under http://www.mediamax.com/bzhou/Hosted/optware/cs04q3armel/ Jan 27 00:30:31 need both ncurses and ncursesw Jan 27 00:30:38 yeah, it looks very similar Jan 27 00:30:55 shit. now i rebooted i cant log in via ssh. got read light flashing on my hdd when i boot, but no light on slug saying hdd is connected Jan 27 00:31:02 with the exception of phoneme-advanced, that's something different Jan 27 00:31:11 yeah Jan 27 00:33:30 am i going to have to reflash if the fstab is wrong? Jan 27 00:34:18 shouldnt do... Jan 27 00:34:31 edit it via another pc.. Jan 27 00:36:29 right. let me see if i can use it... i got partition magic which lets me browse, but that is listing no files on hdd Jan 27 00:52:22 eno Jan 27 00:52:23 SLUG:/opt/bin# /opt/bin/which nano Jan 27 00:52:23 /usr/bin/nano Jan 27 00:52:24 :) Jan 27 00:52:45 that looks to have worked perfectly! Jan 27 00:52:52 excellent Jan 27 00:53:01 very good instructions eno :) Jan 27 00:54:23 presumably if i wanted to build an updated package later, its a case of svn update Jan 27 00:54:32 then "make whatever-ipk" again? Jan 27 00:54:53 yes, and you also need to update Packages* Jan 27 00:55:05 the package listing? Jan 27 00:55:11 right Jan 27 00:55:25 cool Jan 27 00:55:33 thanks again for the guide/all your help eno Jan 27 00:55:35 the Packages file is plain text Jan 27 00:55:48 daveyboy_, we have rtorrent! Jan 27 00:55:50 take a look and you'll understand Jan 27 00:56:09 :D:D:D Jan 27 00:56:28 yeah, i saw it online before - package name, description etc Jan 27 00:56:28 just got to find bloody windows app that lets me WRITE to linux partition instead of just reading Jan 27 00:56:33 i start to think that endianness may play a role in rtorrent xmlrpc Jan 27 00:56:37 XP should be easier Jan 27 00:56:38 theres a few Jan 27 00:56:48 * Reedy_Boy likes having 2 nslu2's for that reason Jan 27 00:56:52 can mount the drive and edit files Jan 27 00:57:33 i found few. 1 thats higly recomended, but it says that drive needs formatting.. otehrones read files, but cant write Jan 27 00:58:14 http://www.fs-driver.org/ Jan 27 00:58:42 thast the 1 Jan 27 00:59:56 The volume has an Ext2/Ext3 file system, but the Ext2 IFS 1.10 software did not Jan 27 00:59:56 mount it because there is at least one incompat feature flag set. The Ext2 Jan 27 00:59:56 IFS software does not implement: Jan 27 00:59:56 * needs_recovery * Jan 27 00:59:56 Here we have an Ext3 file system which has transactions left in its journal. A Jan 27 00:59:56 pure Ext2 driver must not access such a volume which is in that state (to Jan 27 00:59:58 prevent data loss!). Jan 27 01:00:00 You may solve it by mounting it on Linux (which has a kernel with Ext3 Jan 27 01:00:02 support). Be sure that you cleanly dismount it, before you shutdown Linux. Jan 27 01:00:04 After that the Ext2 IFS software should be able to access the volume. Jan 27 01:02:38 eno, so anything via this method, it will need its own ipk dependencies? Jan 27 01:03:00 right Jan 27 01:03:11 cool Jan 27 01:03:15 daveyboy_, give it a try Jan 27 01:03:24 it should be fine Jan 27 01:03:27 that makes optware self-contained Jan 27 01:03:51 makes perfect sense Jan 27 01:04:19 then any dependancies that the programs need are the right version - ie the optware ones Jan 27 01:04:29 yes Jan 27 01:04:37 whereas the debian are seemingly often out of date.. Jan 27 01:04:58 this is exactly how optware works on slugosbe/slugosle as well Jan 27 01:05:04 ahh Jan 27 01:05:05 :) Jan 27 01:06:25 Reedy_Boy: you have a soundbridge, right? Jan 27 01:06:32 yeah, i do Jan 27 01:06:44 does it support FLAC? Jan 27 01:07:20 through certain media servers.. yeah Jan 27 01:07:24 http://www.rokulabs.com/support_sb_faq.php Jan 27 01:07:30 "(FLAC and Ogg-Vorbis can be played using Firefly.) " Jan 27 01:07:40 presumably the media server transcodes it.. Jan 27 01:08:04 i'm trying to decide between a soundbridge and a squeezebox Jan 27 01:08:23 Where are you in the world eno? Jan 27 01:08:32 S.F bay area Jan 27 01:08:49 right Jan 27 01:09:22 seems the soundbridges are cheaper here in the uk Jan 27 01:09:42 right well getting lnux boot disk,. will sort it in morning Jan 27 01:09:44 cheers guys Jan 27 01:12:46 seems the squeezebox does flac straight off... Jan 27 01:12:50 or advertises it does Jan 27 01:13:02 reedy_boy: I've just been looking at some of the IRC channel logs... can i pick your brain for a few minutes you seem like the person to ask :) Jan 27 01:13:29 haha... depends, but fire away, if i cant answer, someone probably can Jan 27 01:13:32 not that i can listen any difference between hi-bitrate mp3 and flac Jan 27 01:13:39 heh ;) Jan 27 01:13:43 lol - hopefully Jan 27 01:13:43 Its just prestige eno Jan 27 01:13:54 it's just convenience ... Jan 27 01:14:01 eno certainly knows a lot more than me about this stuff ;) Jan 27 01:14:57 Reedy_Boy just been converted to an optware developer this afternoon Jan 27 01:15:25 hehe, i didnt think of that, but i suppose, i technically am :) Jan 27 01:15:37 I'm trying to spindown my hard disk, i can get sg_start to work on another linux box, but not sdparm - How do I get sg_start onto my slugos/be system? Jan 27 01:15:52 :) Jan 27 01:16:18 I can actually program (albeit c#/vb), but would be good if i could actually help out with optware in the future.. Jan 27 01:19:31 hmm Jan 27 01:19:36 sdparm is in ipkg Jan 27 01:20:03 yeah, the problem is sg3_utils ( sg_start) is not Jan 27 01:20:25 It looks like i'll have to compile it Jan 27 01:20:56 maybe... or eno may be able to help getting it onto ipkg... Jan 27 01:21:00 if you ask nicely Jan 27 01:21:34 from a tarball - how do I set that up then? the first package i need to install for a native build environment is not available for beta 4.8 Jan 27 01:22:06 please please please :) Jan 27 01:24:15 Quantum-: i'm quite ignorant regarding slugos package development Jan 27 01:24:36 but why not do cross build? Jan 27 01:26:05 monotone is useless on slug, and i understand the current slugos packages are almost all cross built Jan 27 01:26:45 All i really need is that one utility, it seems like there will be a heap of work involved in setting up to compile it... Jan 27 01:27:18 eno, yeah I was just reading about that right now.... Jan 27 01:27:39 that might be the way to go, setup my ubuntu box Jan 27 01:28:01 i'll take a look at sg3_utils the next couple of days see if i can add it to optware Jan 27 01:28:07 :) Jan 27 01:28:18 That would be fantastic Jan 27 01:28:35 Quantum-, its not overly difficult to cross compile for optware - I've just done it with help from eno in here and some guides he's written Jan 27 01:28:36 will you be there to test it? Jan 27 01:28:55 it is mentioned in the spindown/USB FAQ on the website, i'm sure it would be useful for a bunch of people :) Jan 27 01:29:10 Reedy_Boy: you can also try build other optware platforms Jan 27 01:29:14 yeah, for sure Jan 27 01:29:36 where are the guides? i'm happy to give it a shot Jan 27 01:29:59 Quantum-: optware/slugosbe, right? Jan 27 01:30:35 yep Jan 27 01:30:38 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Slugosbe for user Jan 27 01:30:47 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/SlugosbeDevel for developer Jan 27 01:31:39 Reedy_Boy tried the debian variant, in his case the toolchain has binary Jan 27 01:31:48 in the case of slugosbe, it needs to be built Jan 27 01:37:10 i see, he didn't need to build the toolchain Jan 27 01:37:57 luckily the packages were there for me Jan 27 01:39:01 looking at make/template.mk it's not that difficult most of the time Jan 27 01:39:35 i am still a little confused Jan 27 01:40:28 I have my source ( for sg3_utils), first thing I need to do is get the tool chain ( build for binary ) Jan 27 01:40:51 right Jan 27 01:40:54 2. do the optware slugosbe setup Jan 27 01:41:09 ( ie, like your guide says ) Jan 27 01:41:36 then I can compile my source? Jan 27 01:42:17 optware helps make cross compiling your source easier Jan 27 01:42:30 ahh Jan 27 01:42:58 i just started make/sg3_utils.mk from make/template.mk Jan 27 01:43:35 and i can already make sg3_utils-source and sg3_utils-unpack Jan 27 01:44:20 lol, i'm still trying to get my head around the whole procedure and your already making stuff Jan 27 01:44:44 ok, sg3_utils cross built Jan 27 01:45:28 so are you making a package? is that the result? Jan 27 01:45:39 or is that another step? Jan 27 01:45:39 that's the next step Jan 27 01:46:04 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/AddAPackageToOptware Jan 27 01:46:19 just looking here, but I wouldn't need to go that far Jan 27 01:46:22 exactly the right wiki page Jan 27 01:46:47 what is the deal with the 'mastermakefile' Jan 27 01:46:47 it tells me that package name cannot contain '_' Jan 27 01:47:17 can you use a - Jan 27 01:47:46 any slug development build can be started from mastermakefile Jan 27 01:47:56 yeah, renaming right now Jan 27 01:48:32 here is where I am getting confused.. the first line of SlugosbeDevel page says "Get MasterMakefile by following MasterMakefile" the first like of the mastermakefile page says "The Master Makefile is for developing and building the latest and greatest HEAD! These instructions do not apply if all you want to do is build packages etc etc " Jan 27 01:49:05 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile Jan 27 01:49:08 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile Jan 27 01:49:43 * Quantum- is confused Jan 27 01:49:45 optware/slugosbe uses toolchain of slugosbe Jan 27 01:50:09 to build slugosbe toolchain, you're not just building packages Jan 27 01:50:19 so you better use the master makefile Jan 27 01:50:39 so the mastermake file gets me the toolchain? Jan 27 01:50:58 at least to get the overall directory structure and build the toolchain Jan 27 01:51:32 yeah, the easiest way to build slugosbe toolchain is to use the master makefile Jan 27 01:55:36 do I still need to get the old 0.28 version of monotone? Jan 27 01:56:37 optware/slugosbe recently switched to use the toolchain of slugosbe 4.8b release Jan 27 01:57:03 slugosbe 4.8b release revision control is done by svn only Jan 27 01:57:29 huh? Jan 27 01:57:41 so the info on the wiki is out of date? Jan 27 01:57:50 if you only going to build slugosbe 4.8b toolchain and optware/slugosbe, then mtn is not needed Jan 27 01:58:17 not really, ppl use the master makefile for lots of other purposes Jan 27 01:58:33 ahhh okay Jan 27 01:58:51 slugos HEAD, slugos packages HEAD all need mtn Jan 27 02:00:07 Right, i'd better head to bed seen as its 2am... Night eno, and thanks again! Jan 27 02:00:17 will try rtorrent on my NSLU2 later Jan 27 02:00:25 g'nite Reedy_Boy Jan 27 02:00:25 seeya Jan 27 02:00:29 bye" Jan 27 02:00:30 ! Jan 27 02:00:40 sg3-utils packaged Jan 27 02:00:44 so what i'll need is svn Jan 27 02:01:09 trying to build on a few other optware platforms right now Jan 27 02:02:18 Quantum-: yes Jan 27 02:03:13 and depending on the distro of your build machine, you can "make setup-host-" with the master makefile Jan 27 02:04:06 just reading the makefile now Jan 27 02:04:26 however there is not mention of any svn package ( other than monotone Jan 27 02:06:51 search the line start with setup-slugos-%-beta Jan 27 02:07:08 error no sun java package Jan 27 02:07:42 what distro? Jan 27 02:08:18 ubuntu Jan 27 02:09:03 you can choose to ignore that package and install the rest Jan 27 02:09:43 yeah, except I have to edit the make file to remove it... Jan 27 02:09:46 ubuntu 7.10 has that package Jan 27 02:10:43 Quantum-: http://trac.nslu2-linux.org/optware/changeset/7659 Jan 27 02:11:54 cool - now what does that mean? Jan 27 02:12:50 youv'e do the work all i need to do now is build everything and the package will be there Jan 27 02:12:54 it's been added to optware, and ipk will appear when autobuild goes the next round Jan 27 02:12:55 do = done Jan 27 02:13:03 nice Jan 27 02:13:22 appear in the feed Jan 27 02:13:50 of course if you have the cross build environment you can already "svn up" and build the ipk Jan 27 02:14:22 ( so, at this rate the auto build will happen before I can get my cross compile environment setup!!! ) :) Jan 27 02:15:00 :-) Jan 27 02:15:33 thanks for your help Jan 27 02:15:44 i'd be mucking around with this for days Jan 27 02:15:55 it will be a lot of fun Jan 27 02:16:19 yeah, you can look at it like that Jan 27 02:17:22 need to d/l 127 packages :) Jan 27 02:19:45 eno: so you are a 'registered' developer? Jan 27 02:20:22 optware feed manager Jan 27 02:20:46 do you spend much time on it? Jan 27 02:21:50 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Profiles/BrianZhou Jan 27 02:23:08 I see :) Jan 27 02:28:21 so what sort of testing do I need to do on this package? Jan 27 02:31:11 i dunno, first try the things you originally want to do Jan 27 02:44:31 make setup-slugosbe <--- make: *** No rule to make target `setup-slugosbe'. Stop. Jan 27 02:45:34 Yeah, i'll see how it goes :) Jan 27 02:45:35 should it be "make setup-slugos-4.8-beta" Jan 27 02:45:56 You'll have to fix your wiki page :) Jan 27 02:46:25 ah, the wiki may not be up-to-date Jan 27 02:47:06 That is okay, i am getting somewhere Jan 27 02:47:28 Quantum-: no, *you* get to fix the wiki page. ;) Jan 27 02:47:35 (that's why it's a wiki!) Jan 27 02:47:38 okay Jan 27 02:47:49 do I have to register or something? Jan 27 02:48:09 Nope. Some few of the pages are password-protected because of spammers, but it's an open wiki. Jan 27 02:50:03 Quantum-: use the "Building release-specific minimum required toolchains" and replace 3.10 with 4.8 Jan 27 02:50:57 will do Jan 27 02:52:22 wooo - my first ever wiki edits :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 27 02:59:57 2008