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Feb 15 06:20:03 <Nimmit> why is there like a 10 second delay when logging into bash
Feb 15 06:20:13 <Nimmit> from when you enter your username, until the password prompt appears
Feb 15 06:20:19 <Nimmit> SlugOSBE
Feb 15 09:08:41 <Sefram> Hello, is here someone with 'The Onion Router'-Experience on NSLU2?
Feb 15 09:11:48 <Sefram> i have TOR running (connections do work well), but it seems it sucks up more and more memory until... 
Feb 15 09:13:31 <Sefram> im running it on unslung 6.8b
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Feb 15 11:39:35 <Pronin> Hi! Does anyone know about any sucsessful installation of SlugOS on Linksys EFG250 or EFG120 ? They look similar to NSLU2, but have internal HDDs
Feb 15 11:46:06 <PPmarcel> 899$ :/
Feb 15 11:46:34 <PPmarcel> at this price, you can buy some nslu2 and disks ^^
Feb 15 11:48:01 <Pronin> Thanks, I already own EFG250 :) And the only thing that disappoints me is that there is no NFS support :(
Feb 15 11:48:29 <PPmarcel> i guessed ^^
Feb 15 11:48:54 <PPmarcel> i fear that noone tryed it, because it's expensive :s
Feb 15 11:49:24 <PPmarcel> is it the same cpu ?
Feb 15 11:49:55 <PPmarcel> u could break it
Feb 15 11:50:03 <PPmarcel> but you could break it*
Feb 15 11:51:16 <Pronin> i'm not sure.. but firmwares look very similar - same redboot/sysconf.. but it is 16Mb
Feb 15 11:53:15 <PPmarcel> i'm not expert about other nas, wait for geeker than me :)
Feb 15 13:33:56 <Sefram> Is the optware_ddwrt_cross_stable feed the right one for the OpenWRT Kamikaze 7.09 binary firmware?
Feb 15 14:09:55 <alezzandro> hi all
Feb 15 14:10:34 <alezzandro> anyone can tell me how add users on unslung without web interface?
Feb 15 14:14:20 <mwester> Add them to the passwd file(s), and group file(s), whereever those can be found.
Feb 15 14:14:55 <mwester> If you just add them to the /etc/passwd file, they will get overwritten by the Linksys firmware, since the Linksys code manages the passwd, group, and other files.
Feb 15 14:15:19 <mwester> (It's easier to add the users via the web interface, and then edit the passwd file(s) as necessary)
Feb 15 14:18:40 <alezzandro> ok thanks mwester 
Feb 15 14:18:41 <alezzandro> :)
Feb 15 14:19:27 <alezzandro> mwester do you use slugos with external hd?
Feb 15 14:19:37 <mwester> Many.
Feb 15 14:20:06 <alezzandro> do you have experimented difficulties handling large file on external hd with slugos?
Feb 15 14:21:36 <mwester> Only when there are bugs, and generally I try to fix those.  I have just been testing SlugOS with NFS, and have been moving a 4 Gigabyte file on and off of my NSLU2 with a small external 2.5" laptop drive, with no problems at all.
Feb 15 14:21:57 <alezzandro> for ex. when i try to chmod all contents of my external hd the system crash.. can't login via ssh or ftp, nothing seems to be up, only eth device reply to ping..
Feb 15 14:23:40 <alezzandro> so i decided to revert to unslung :S
Feb 15 14:26:01 <mwester> alezzandro:  that's a serious problem that should be looked into; that is not acceptable behavior for the device.  I don't think that Unslung is a suitable replacement for SlugOS, either.
Feb 15 14:28:05 <alezzandro> yes i know, but with this problem i can't use slugos, i have also to re-format my hd from reiserfs to ext3..
Feb 15 14:30:16 <mwester> I don't understand - both SlugOS and unslung support ext3
Feb 15 14:30:22 <alezzandro> mwester: when i will add user to /etc/group file, i must add them as group, or add them to a group?
Feb 15 14:30:59 <mwester> Dunno.  I haven't reverse-engineered the Linksys firmware to know what might upset or anger it. :)
Feb 15 14:31:15 <alezzandro> yes but i'm using slugos with reiserfs, and so to use this hd with unslung i must reformat it to ext3..
Feb 15 14:31:19 <alezzandro> not?
Feb 15 14:32:14 <mwester> Reiserfs is probably your problem; it has not been tested on SlugOS (and won't; it's not in many mainstream distros anymore)
Feb 15 14:32:32 <alezzandro> ah ok
Feb 15 14:32:34 <mwester> Use ext3 and all will be well with SlugOS
Feb 15 14:32:51 <mwester> Is there a reason you are using reiserfs?
Feb 15 14:33:14 <alezzandro> i'm using reiserfs for years, never lost a byte
Feb 15 14:33:27 <alezzandro> so i decided to put it on my external hd
Feb 15 14:33:28 <alezzandro> :)
Feb 15 14:34:17 <mwester> Well, I understand that Reiser will have to maintain his filesystem from a prison cell, which doesn't bode well for support for that file system.
Feb 15 14:34:32 <alezzandro> aahahhaha
Feb 15 14:34:39 <alezzandro> :)
Feb 15 14:35:01 <alezzandro> i will try ext3 hoping that works, thanks very much for help
Feb 15 14:35:39 <mwester> It will work much better; that is the preferred (and most thoroughly tested) filesystem for SlugOS.
Feb 15 14:36:30 <alezzandro> in fact i didn't find any pages on web talking about reiserfs and slugos :)
Feb 15 14:41:09 <mwester> Well, that's a clue that it isn't used very much (if at all) :)
Feb 15 14:41:56 <alezzandro> :p i'm the only reiserfs-user
Feb 15 14:41:57 <alezzandro> :D
Feb 15 14:42:46 <alezzandro> date
Feb 15 14:42:52 <alezzandro> doh :)
Feb 15 15:54:37 <NSLU2-IRC> hi
Feb 15 15:54:58 <NSLU2-IRC> has anyone had any success using usb microdrives with the nslu2 ?
Feb 15 15:56:20 <rob---> I am trying to partition the drive as part of the debian installer and it always fails
Feb 15 15:56:28 <rob---> but works fine on a gentoo machine
Feb 15 15:56:44 <rob---> fails with a read error
Feb 15 15:57:14 <slima> its possible to run snmpd at NSLU2 (SlugOS)?
Feb 15 15:57:19 <rob---> tried manualy partitioning in gentoo then plugging back into the nslu2 but the installer always wants to repartition and fails
Feb 15 15:58:36 <rob---> does the port matter in the debian installer? I know the stock firmware would not allow USB sticks in port 1
Feb 15 15:58:59 <rob---> and is a USB microdrive a USB stick or a USB harddrive ??
Feb 15 16:02:32 <PPmarcel> pport don't matter with debian
Feb 15 16:02:44 <PPmarcel> do you use the last installer?
Feb 15 16:03:30 <PPmarcel> http://www.slug-firmware.net/d-dls.php
Feb 15 16:03:56 <PPmarcel> Have you got a message error when it fails?
Feb 15 16:06:33 <PPmarcel> rob---: If you still crashing with debian installer, you may try by manually unpack a tarball
Feb 15 16:06:37 <PPmarcel> http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/unpack.html
Feb 15 16:06:57 <PPmarcel> It should works
Feb 15 16:06:57 * rob--- is checking out the unpack link
Feb 15 16:11:58 <rob---> hmmm sounds a little painful but at least its something to try ;) thanks
Feb 15 16:12:35 * rob--- has to wait 2hrs 39 mins before slugging can be begin ...
Feb 15 16:13:41 <PPmarcel> Humm, not really painful
Feb 15 16:14:11 <PPmarcel> You just have to set your partitions, copy unpack debian files in it, and flash your nslu2
Feb 15 16:14:24 <PPmarcel> that's really fast ;;)
Feb 15 19:10:08 <WanderingII> how can i get a database set up on my slug, looking to create some simplish scripts to run on the server
Feb 15 19:10:26 <mwester> ipkg install <database of choice>
Feb 15 19:10:39 <WanderingII> mysql?
Feb 15 19:10:59 <mwester> Possibly.  There might also be something lighter-weight out there.
Feb 15 19:11:42 <WanderingII> k thanks
Feb 15 19:11:52 <mwester> sqllite?
Feb 15 19:12:02 <mwester> er, sqlite
Feb 15 19:12:08 <WanderingII> i dont mind as long as its easy to use with php
Feb 15 19:12:18 <WanderingII> only need a few tables
Feb 15 19:12:26 <mwester> Ah, well then you should start by finding what is supported by your version of php.
Feb 15 19:12:31 <mwester> You need drivers, of course.
Feb 15 19:13:24 <mwester> Probably mysql is supported would be my guess.
Feb 15 20:18:02 <Nimmit> why is there like a 10 second delay when logging into bash
Feb 15 20:18:13 <Nimmit> once I enter my username
Feb 15 20:18:22 <Nimmit> it takes like 10 seconds for the password prompt to appear
Feb 15 20:18:24 <Nimmit> slugosbe
Feb 15 22:52:52 <PPmarcel>  /n
Feb 16 01:32:41 <gouki> Any ideas on how to make the Xbox 360 believe the slug is a Windows Media Center station? :)
Feb 16 01:44:48 <mwester> Install software?
Feb 16 01:45:21 <mwester> mediatomb, perhaps?
Feb 16 02:03:54 <Nimmit> hey mwester
Feb 16 02:04:04 <Nimmit> why is there like a 10 second delay from when I login in ssh
Feb 16 02:04:11 <Nimmit> from when I enter username and password
Feb 16 02:04:49 <Nimmit> I'm assuming its doing something ... but I can't find the bash_login or whatever controls that
Feb 16 02:15:12 <mwester> It's probably sshd and not the shell.
Feb 16 02:15:51 <mwester> What firmware?
Feb 16 02:16:21 <Nimmit> slugosbe
Feb 16 02:18:23 <mwester> version/
Feb 16 02:18:28 <mwester> er, ?
Feb 16 02:18:29 <Nimmit> most recent
Feb 16 02:18:36 <Nimmit> just installed like a couple weeks ago
Feb 16 02:19:15 <mwester> did you download the binary or build it yourself?
Feb 16 02:19:27 * mwester feels like a detective
Feb 16 02:19:40 <Nimmit> downloaded
Feb 16 02:20:18 <mwester> Ah! Mystery solved, you are running 4.8-beta then.  :p
Feb 16 02:20:27 <Nimmit> hehe, I guess
Feb 16 02:21:17 <mwester> When exactly does it take so much time, and exactly how much time is it taking?  (i.e. from what prompt to what prompt?)
Feb 16 02:22:35 <Nimmit> username: root
Feb 16 02:22:39 <Nimmit> 10-15 second delay
Feb 16 02:22:41 <Nimmit> password:
Feb 16 02:23:21 <mwester> curious indeed.  What does your /var/log/messages file have to say (tail /var/log/messages)?
Feb 16 02:23:27 <Nimmit> took exactly 10 seconds
Feb 16 02:23:29 <Nimmit> just timed it
Feb 16 02:23:57 <Nimmit> Feb 16 02:23:40 (none) auth.err sshd[1837]: error: Could not get shadow informat                                 ion for root
Feb 16 02:23:57 <Nimmit> Feb 16 02:23:40 (none) auth.info sshd[1837]: Accepted password for root from 192                                 .168.2.201 port 4339 ssh2
Feb 16 02:23:57 <Nimmit> Feb 16 02:23:40 (none) auth.err sshd[1841]: error: setlogin failed: Function not                                  implemented
Feb 16 02:24:54 <mwester> Ok, and when you logged in, does it display a last login message?
Feb 16 02:25:00 <Nimmit> yes
Feb 16 02:25:11 <Nimmit> login as: root
Feb 16 02:25:11 <Nimmit> root@cubs's password:
Feb 16 02:25:11 <Nimmit> Last login: Sat Feb 16 02:10:56 2008 from 192.168.2.201
Feb 16 02:25:58 <mwester> Last login: Wed Feb 13 13:35:06 2008 from midnight.mwester.net
Feb 16 02:26:37 <mwester> Interesting part of the world you live in... care to share any current stock prices?
Feb 16 02:26:46 <Nimmit> :)
Feb 16 02:26:48 <Nimmit> wouldn't know
Feb 16 02:26:54 <Nimmit> I live in Indiana, US
Feb 16 02:27:20 <Nimmit> so this has something to do with it not finding a shadow file?
Feb 16 02:27:28 <mwester> A few hundred miles from Chicago, and several days in the future.  ;)
Feb 16 02:27:38 <Nimmit> hmm
Feb 16 02:27:43 <Nimmit> my date is off
Feb 16 02:27:51 <Nimmit> its the 15th right now
Feb 16 02:28:05 <mwester> You might like to check if fixing your clock changes anything, also it may be trying to resolve your IP address to a hostname -- try fixing your DNS server or adding that IP to the hosts file.
Feb 16 02:28:11 <mwester> gotta run right now - bbl
Feb 16 02:28:23 <Nimmit> did you see that shadow error though?
Feb 16 02:28:30 <mwester> yes, ignore it.
Feb 16 02:29:02 <Nimmit> odd
Feb 16 02:29:08 <Nimmit> when I do: date
Feb 16 02:29:11 <Nimmit> the date is correct
Feb 16 02:30:05 <Nimmit> TY MWESTER
Feb 16 02:30:14 <Nimmit> added my pc to the hosts file
Feb 16 02:30:16 <Nimmit> prob fixed
Feb 16 02:30:26 <Nimmit> took <sec for it to ask for password this time
Feb 16 02:32:14 <Nimmit> okay
Feb 16 02:32:23 <Nimmit> now to figure out why sshd is thinking I'm a day in the future
Feb 16 02:32:28 <Nimmit> even though date is reporting the correct date
Feb 16 02:34:44 <Nimmit> ah figured that out
Feb 16 02:35:01 <Nimmit> hd TZ in /etc/profile correct but /etc/localtime was not
Feb 16 02:36:03 <Nimmit> ty though mwester, that delay was very annoying
Feb 16 02:54:06 <Nimmit> okay, I guess I need help with my time/date
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