**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 03 10:59:56 2008
Mar 03 18:50:03 <hld> is there a good howto for installing slugOS/LE ?
Mar 03 18:50:16 <hld> or hello... ^^
Mar 03 18:56:10 <janne-5011> hi hld
Mar 03 18:56:31 <hld> hi
Mar 03 18:56:55 <janne-5011> I suggest you download the binary and read the README before do anything
Mar 03 18:57:09 <janne-5011> http://www.slug-firmware.net/s-dls.php
Mar 03 18:57:47 <hld> not much info in it
Mar 03 18:57:58 <hld> just the standard reset button stuff
Mar 03 18:58:48 <janne-5011> before you need initalizing diskssomewhere in the wiki you find it
Mar 03 18:59:46 <janne-5011> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/InitialisingOpenSlug
Mar 03 19:00:08 <janne-5011> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/InitialisingDisks
Mar 03 19:00:43 <janne-5011> think all you need is found on thoose links
Mar 03 19:22:46 <PPmarcel> with Unslung, can i shutdown the nslu2, and start it at anytime?
Mar 03 19:23:25 <PPmarcel> or can i only schedule shutdown and restart (but no starting from poweroff?)
Mar 03 19:23:51 <PPmarcel> (by poweroff, i mean powermini, disks hang off)
Mar 03 19:31:43 <janne-5011> PPmarcel powermini?
Mar 03 19:32:05 <janne-5011> anyway you can shut it down with powerbutton of course
Mar 03 19:32:31 <janne-5011> and hopefully it will boot again and evrything is the same=)))
Mar 03 19:32:44 <PPmarcel> ^^
Mar 03 19:32:47 <PPmarcel> i'm not clear
Mar 03 19:33:03 <PPmarcel> i have seen i can schedule shutdown and restart
Mar 03 19:33:30 <janne-5011> must look at it was long time I look at that
Mar 03 19:33:49 <PPmarcel> if i set an hour for shutdown, will i be able to schedule an automatic start, with "restart" fuction?
Mar 03 19:33:56 <PPmarcel> ok
Mar 03 19:34:01 <PPmarcel> i can try it anyway
Mar 03 19:35:04 <janne-5011> never tried it but look it start. cool feature.
Mar 03 19:35:23 <PPmarcel> yes :)
Mar 03 19:35:50 <PPmarcel> i have a samba error
Mar 03 19:36:00 <janne-5011> but nslu2 take little power so not so much use for it
Mar 03 19:36:32 <PPmarcel> ah yes
Mar 03 19:36:56 <PPmarcel> i forgot that hard disks can't be shutdowned by the nslu2
Mar 03 19:37:12 <PPmarcel> it's manual, so my question was useless
Mar 03 19:38:44 <PPmarcel> i'm afraid to reset my sysconf :s
Mar 03 19:38:44 <janne-5011> is it somthing like failed samba information?
Mar 03 19:39:27 <PPmarcel> yes, i read really scaring things about erase sysconf in RedBoot, and installing stock firmware :s
Mar 03 19:40:06 <PPmarcel> could you make some tests for me?
Mar 03 19:40:14 <PPmarcel> you one seems working :)
Mar 03 19:40:27 <janne-5011> well what you want me to do?
Mar 03 19:40:47 <PPmarcel> i'm just curious about upnp, and ftp server above all
Mar 03 19:40:54 <PPmarcel> is it possible to reach it from internet?
Mar 03 19:41:01 <PPmarcel> that's my question
Mar 03 19:41:24 <PPmarcel> (if possible test it)
Mar 03 19:41:45 <PPmarcel> the rest i can deal with myself to make it working
Mar 03 19:41:58 <janne-5011> open it to internet its a big risk...suppose you can portward simply
Mar 03 19:42:24 <PPmarcel> yes
Mar 03 19:42:30 <PPmarcel> with a forwarding
Mar 03 19:42:59 <PPmarcel> or maybe if i can find where is ftp conf, i could run it myself
Mar 03 19:45:35 <janne-5011> but unpn is only so you easy can find your nslu2 for windows so its better disable it and save some resorce
Mar 03 19:46:38 <PPmarcel> ok
Mar 03 19:47:28 <janne-5011> unpn is also for sue with mediapalyers but in that case mediaapps on nslu2 have them "inbuilt" so no need.
Mar 03 19:47:33 <janne-5011> *for use
Mar 03 19:48:05 <PPmarcel> but by what are used theses media players?
Mar 03 19:48:19 <PPmarcel> is it for streaming?
Mar 03 19:48:46 <janne-5011> yes video music photo internetradio....
Mar 03 19:49:28 <janne-5011> unpn announce to mediaplayers what servers is there to find files
Mar 03 19:49:41 <PPmarcel> so if i want to stream a video trough my network, i can use twonky, and get the stream with vlc on an another computer?
Mar 03 19:50:35 <janne-5011> yes.  vlc I duuno but wmp can see them
Mar 03 19:50:45 <PPmarcel> :o
Mar 03 19:50:55 <PPmarcel> and do you use twonky?
Mar 03 19:51:45 <janne-5011> but really use of twonky for example is if you have a mediaplayer. so you need only a server, slug, and player, no PC.
Mar 03 19:52:17 <PPmarcel> ok
Mar 03 19:52:29 <PPmarcel> and upnp must be enabled in all case?
Mar 03 19:52:41 <PPmarcel> or i can stream on 1 open port?
Mar 03 19:52:59 <janne-5011> else you can do a playlist on files shared in samba and play it on pc.
Mar 03 19:53:15 <PPmarcel> very interesting :o
Mar 03 19:53:21 <janne-5011> in that case no need port or unpn
Mar 03 19:53:49 <PPmarcel> i enter 192.168.1.77 on wmp, and i cath read it?
Mar 03 19:53:58 <PPmarcel> can read*
Mar 03 19:54:33 <janne-5011> so..torrent download to folder-->share that folder  in twonky-->listen in mediaplayer.
Mar 03 19:55:38 <janne-5011> no need to "file" open and look for samba share from wmp.
Mar 03 19:56:25 <janne-5011> cant you see folders from nslu2 in windows?
Mar 03 19:56:54 <PPmarcel> yesw
Mar 03 19:57:33 <PPmarcel> but in real, i just think to a web application
Mar 03 19:57:43 <PPmarcel> i'm interesting to stream over internet
Mar 03 20:11:46 <mwester> hld:  SlugOS is very easy to install; there's very little to it to begin with (unlike Unslung, which has a myriad of special procedures, etc.
Mar 03 20:11:47 <mwester> )
Mar 03 20:12:22 <PPmarcel> mwester: what can you say me about unslung's ftp?
Mar 03 20:12:42 <mwester> you mean ftp daemon?
Mar 03 20:12:48 <PPmarcel> yes
Mar 03 20:12:54 <PPmarcel> what is it? how it works?
Mar 03 20:13:04 <PPmarcel> i can't enable it from webmin
Mar 03 20:13:10 <mwester> bftpd
Mar 03 20:13:14 <PPmarcel> ty
Mar 03 20:13:37 <mwester> Google it; it works great -- I don't think there is any need for proftpd or vsftpd, really.
Mar 03 20:14:01 <PPmarcel> ok
Mar 03 20:14:15 <PPmarcel> i need to find informations about it anyway
Mar 03 20:14:37 <mwester> The version Linksys provides is very old.
Mar 03 20:14:46 <PPmarcel> and unslung?
Mar 03 20:15:07 <PPmarcel> i guess not :)
Mar 03 20:15:09 <mwester> Unslung's is a copy of the one Linksys provides
Mar 03 20:15:48 <mwester> It may be possible to upgrade, but I don't know if that would require any config file changes to enable any new features or not.  But a diversion script should be able to update the config file.
Mar 03 20:15:51 <PPmarcel> so the total of unslung's webmin IS linksys?
Mar 03 20:17:20 <mwester> Yes, all of the web gui is Linksys, and is unmodified by Unslung (with the exception of some text changed on the home page, and the addition of the "enable telnet" link)
Mar 03 20:17:49 <PPmarcel> and upgrade which isn't avaible anymore from web
Mar 03 20:17:51 <PPmarcel> ok
Mar 03 20:18:33 <mwester> Almost all of the executables are Linksys.  Unslung 6.8 adds "slingbox" for some extra commands, Unslung 6.10 replaces the original slingbox and Linksys' version of busybox with an updated busybox patched to behave like Linksys' modified version.
Mar 03 20:19:13 <PPmarcel> wow :)
Mar 03 20:20:12 <PPmarcel> does it require just a little modification to convert the Linksys firmware, to unslung?
Mar 03 20:20:26 <PPmarcel> when i heard you, it seems easy :)
Mar 03 20:20:38 <PPmarcel> *seems*
Mar 03 20:20:39 <mwester> Many different little modifications...
Mar 03 20:21:30 <mwester> All together, it took a lot of hard work by the original core team to figure out how to do it.  (it was all pretty much figured out by the time I started helping with Unslung)
Mar 03 20:22:27 <PPmarcel> i'm really interested by nslu2 project, but i don't know if i can keep my motivation
Mar 03 20:25:59 <PPmarcel> how did you started to develop for nslu2? you were already a programer?
Mar 03 20:58:37 <hld> http://pastebin.ca/926777
Mar 03 20:58:44 <hld> hmmmm, what's my error?
Mar 03 21:01:15 <Reedy_Boy> http://pastebin.ca/926777
Mar 03 21:01:18 <Reedy_Boy> presumably? ;)
Mar 03 21:01:51 <hld> ?
Mar 03 21:03:33 <Reedy_Boy> Looks like your reflash has messed up
Mar 03 21:04:32 <Reedy_Boy> What did you install?
Mar 03 21:04:57 <hld> slugOS/LE, newest beta from slug-firmware.net
Mar 03 21:09:51 <mwester> hld:  looks like you saved sysconf info from some previous firmware?  In any case, you need to reset the sysconf information.
Mar 03 21:10:28 <mwester> Install the Linksys firmware, boot it up, then hold the reset button in for 20 seconds or so until the factory-default settings are restored.
Mar 03 21:11:06 <mwester> (or if you are brave, you can reset the sysconf per the wiki information using redboot, but that procedure is not required anymore since the aforementioned procedure is safer.)
Mar 03 21:11:50 <PPmarcel> what is this procedure? i need it
Mar 03 21:12:09 <hld> hmmm, i have seriel interface available... so... maybe i am brave ^^
Mar 03 21:12:12 <PPmarcel> installing original linksys?
Mar 03 21:21:09 <hld> okay, did it using redboot. openslug works now
Mar 03 21:21:55 <hld> how much memory is the acutal kernel able to use? (128mb?!)
Mar 03 21:23:07 <PPmarcel> more
Mar 03 21:23:29 <PPmarcel> around 256 MiB if i'm right
Mar 03 21:23:54 <hld> but there are errors with more than 64 if i remember right
Mar 03 21:24:09 <PPmarcel> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/FatSlug
Mar 03 21:24:19 <PPmarcel> ah slugOS, i don't know
Mar 03 21:25:30 <PPmarcel> but that's a clue ::)
Mar 03 21:26:33 <hld> what about the page allocation failure ?
Mar 03 21:27:28 <PPmarcel> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ObeseSlug
Mar 03 21:28:45 <hld> doesn't say anything about the bug
Mar 03 21:29:09 <PPmarcel> i just can give you info in wiki, i never tryed
Mar 03 21:31:27 <PPmarcel> well, an another HowTo with slugOS -> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ModifyMemorySize
Mar 03 23:39:30 <fraco> debianslug not booting anymore from hd after an upgrade from debian stable -> debian testing (went from 2.6.18-6 to 2.6.22-3 kernel)
Mar 03 23:39:48 <fraco> what would be the safe/good/smartest approach to get it working again
Mar 03 23:39:52 <fraco> ?
Mar 03 23:43:27 <Reedy_Boy> reinstall? xD
Mar 03 23:44:23 <fraco> from the official installer then?
Mar 03 23:45:42 <PPmarcel> yes you should
Mar 03 23:46:05 <hld> hmmmm, muffins
Mar 03 23:46:06 <hld> re
Mar 03 23:46:27 <Reedy_Boy> If you want to look at upgrading to testing again.. You may want to use the debian-arm mailing list
Mar 03 23:47:56 <fraco> ill go for the reinstall then
Mar 03 23:48:03 <fraco> thnx
Mar 03 23:48:05 <PPmarcel> good night all
Mar 04 01:10:33 <hld> ok, openslug runs
Mar 04 01:30:03 <hld> hmmm, anyone tried torrentflux on the box?
Mar 04 01:54:17 <hld> there isn't a php package?!
Mar 04 02:04:05 <hld> re
Mar 04 02:29:37 <hld> isn't there a php package for openslug/le ?
Mar 04 02:29:47 <hld> ipkg list | grep php delivers nothing ;(
Mar 04 02:33:49 <mwester> Is there a reason you chose the LE version?
Mar 04 02:34:33 <hld> because i read debianslug and thought... oooh, debian ^^
Mar 04 02:35:08 <eno> hld: http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/slugosle/cross/unstable/
Mar 04 02:35:38 <hld> ah
Mar 04 02:35:41 <mwester> Can you remember where you read that reference, and perhaps update it to note that SlugOS/LE != debianslug any longer? 
Mar 04 02:36:13 <eno> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Slugosle
Mar 04 02:36:20 <hld> SlugOS/LE, formerly known as DebianSlug, is a replacement firmware image for the Linksys NSLU2 targetted at running the Debian distribution.
Mar 04 02:36:25 <mwester> If you wish the full debian feeds, you'll need to install the actual debian firmware.  Otherwise, you'll probably find the URL that eno provided will do the job for you.
Mar 04 02:37:07 <hld> i want to install torrentflux atm, if this works (needs php, sqlite and lighty) all i want is there :)
Mar 04 02:37:08 <mwester> Right - that reference needs to be fixed.  SlugOS/LE is not targetted at the debian distro; that's what debian for ARM does now.
Mar 04 02:37:11 <hld> at least for the moment
Mar 04 02:37:51 <hld> yeah, i thought it's very confusing... but on the other hand it 03:37 here :)
Mar 04 02:37:54 <mwester> SlugOS/LE is just the LE version of SlugOS/BE -- smaller, easier to install and recover than Debian, but not Debian in any way any longer...
Mar 04 02:38:27 <hld> but the actual debian has the old apex and i wanted to use my 128mb
Mar 04 02:38:36 <mwester> No, it's not the time -- it *is* confusing.  But it's a wiki, and if everyone who gets confused by something fixes that something, then it will get better over time.
Mar 04 02:39:43 <eno> hld: can you test http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RtorrentWithRemoteGUI 
Mar 04 02:40:15 <hld> i believe rtorrent isn't allowed on the trackers i use
Mar 04 02:40:23 <hld> or is it based on bittornado too?
Mar 04 02:40:26 <eno> looks like it's not working on unslung and slugosbe (maybe endian related)
Mar 04 02:42:33 <hld> ahh, rtorrent is allowed
Mar 04 02:42:43 <hld> 0.6.4/0.10.4
Mar 04 02:43:58 <hld> root@NSLU2:/usr$ ipkg install rtorrent
Mar 04 02:43:58 <hld> Nothing to be done
Mar 04 02:43:58 <hld> An error ocurred, return value: 4.
Mar 04 02:43:58 <hld> Collected errors:
Mar 04 02:43:59 <hld> Cannot find package rtorrent.
Mar 04 02:44:01 <hld> ?!
Mar 04 02:58:53 <eno> hld: see the wiki link i gave you
Mar 04 02:59:01 <hld> yeah, installed everything
Mar 04 02:59:06 <hld> now the lighty thing
Mar 04 02:59:15 <hld> or, where did it install rtorrent and how can i start it
Mar 04 02:59:42 <eno> ipkg files rtorrent
Mar 04 03:00:17 <hld> error opening terminal: xterm
Mar 04 03:01:36 <hld> maybe it's better for my purposes to use standard debian and replace the second stage apex with a newer one?
Mar 04 03:30:46 <Nimmit> is there a torrent program for slugosbe that has a web gui
Mar 04 03:30:46 <Nimmit> ?
Mar 04 03:33:50 <hld> heh
Mar 04 03:34:43 <Nimmit> heh
Mar 04 03:34:49 <Nimmit> looks liek I walked into the same convo
Mar 04 05:01:27 <Nimmit> I have a problem
Mar 04 05:01:31 <Nimmit> I can't use ssh
Mar 04 05:01:37 <Nimmit> always says connection refused
Mar 04 05:01:40 <Nimmit> just started
Mar 04 05:01:43 <Nimmit> doing this
Mar 04 05:13:19 <Nimmit> mwester
Mar 04 05:34:48 <Nimmit> help
Mar 04 07:15:42 <Nimmit> nvm on that question/problem
Mar 04 07:15:54 <Nimmit> never do chmod -R 777 /var/run/
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