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Apr 02 13:42:30 <NSLU2-IRC> nick MrPink
Apr 02 13:42:38 <MrPink> oops
Apr 02 13:42:39 <MrPink> ;)
Apr 02 13:43:37 <MrPink> Could anybody help me, I'm looking for clarification of what is required to get my HDD attached to my NSLU2 to spindown.
Apr 02 14:40:19 <olifre> Anybody here who knows how to set up a toolchain for crosscompiling?
Apr 02 15:30:46 <MrPink> I'm having some problems with getting my HDD connected to the NSLU2 to spindown, can somebody help me?
Apr 02 16:01:13 <janne-5011> hi,what to do if the debian installer says no kernel modules found when it suppose to download?
Apr 02 17:59:41 <HRH_H_Crab> hi, is anyone able to give me a few pointers about apex-env?
Apr 02 18:00:22 <Reedy> HRH_H_Crab, you were most appropriate in #nslu2-linux
Apr 02 18:00:29 <Reedy> but you'll just have to wait for a response
Apr 02 18:00:34 <Reedy> or state your question fully
Apr 02 18:00:43 <Reedy> which will probably get you a response quicker
Apr 02 18:01:11 <HRH_H_Crab> Reedy: haha
Apr 02 18:01:20 <HRH_H_Crab> i thought i was inappropriate when i read the topic! ;)
Apr 02 18:01:34 <Reedy> Its more appropriate than here ;)
Apr 02 18:01:42 <Reedy> Someone will get back to you, just idle in there for a bit
Apr 02 18:01:52 <HRH_H_Crab> o.k. thanks for the tip!
Apr 02 18:02:37 <HRH_H_Crab> just incase anyone might know the answers, i have just managed to get a version of angstrom on my slug, and apex-env is installed.
Apr 02 18:02:44 <HRH_H_Crab> i think i know how to edit the keys / values,
Apr 02 18:03:15 <HRH_H_Crab> but i only have a "cmdline" key, and no "cmdline-alt"
Apr 02 18:03:38 <HRH_H_Crab> im a bit worried about changing the value of cmdline, with nothing to fall back on.
Apr 02 18:11:11 <NSLU2-IRC> Hi, I'm having some trouble unslinging with unslung5.5, whenever I reboot and check if the unsling was successful rootfs still seems to be on the ramdisk
Apr 02 18:11:26 <MrPink> apologies, forgot to /nick before I said that
Apr 02 18:13:45 <Reedy> Why 5.5?
Apr 02 18:13:48 <Reedy> Why not 6.10?
Apr 02 18:14:34 <slack---line> Hi, I've just got my slug to boot from a gentoo install on an external USB drive, using SlugOS-4.8 kernel, but theres no reiserfs support in the kernel (as detailed at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/SlugOS/ChangeLog4x8) would I be "safe" to remove things like nfs-utils and portmap from the SlugOS install to free up space for the kernel modules as nfs-utils and portmap will be provided by the gentoo install, non?
Apr 02 18:14:47 <MrPink> Because it seems that my hdd enclosure won't spindown under 6.8 or 6.10
Apr 02 18:15:37 <MrPink> There's a post in the newsgroup, i'll just get the link
Apr 02 18:15:51 <Reedy> I saw it
Apr 02 18:18:21 <MrPink> ah ok, i think i linked to the previous posts in my post
Apr 02 18:25:32 <MrPink> perhaps it is more advisable to try and make it work under 6.10?
Apr 02 18:26:49 <Reedy> As i said yesterday.. Its going to be using swap on the device.. so the OS isnt going to make huge amount of difference.. I think the mybook spins itself down when its been idle anyway, not OS related...
Apr 02 18:28:56 <MrPink> you are right about the mybook. The problem seems to be regular accesses. Is it possible for me to move those accesses onto the ramdisk? or do i need to unsling to a flash drive?
Apr 02 18:30:33 <Reedy> Swap is in addition to the ram
Apr 02 18:30:40 <Reedy> you can either move it to a flash drive
Apr 02 18:30:43 <Reedy> (the swap)
Apr 02 18:30:56 <Reedy> or maybe, as a test, try turning it off, and at least see if the drive spins down?
Apr 02 18:31:32 <MrPink> it does, i have tested that it spins itself down with no accesses for 10 minutes
Apr 02 18:32:09 <Reedy> right
Apr 02 18:32:20 <Reedy> so there is therefore no use really using the old OS
Apr 02 18:32:37 <Reedy> if you need swap, you could use a memory stick/similar and unsling to the stick if you want
Apr 02 18:32:45 <Reedy> if you dont, you may be able to get away without any
Apr 02 18:33:58 <MrPink> i think that what i'm finding confusing is that i keep reading reports of people who have unslung to a hard drive, and yet it still spins itself down when idle
Apr 02 18:34:28 <Reedy> they *may* have turned the swap off
Apr 02 18:36:38 <MrPink> i'm not sure if i'll need it yet, obviously that depends on the memory requirements of what i run. As a test though, how would i go about disabling the swap?
Apr 02 19:02:58 <janne-5011> what can I do if the debian installer say no kerner modules found ,mismatch installler between kernel version in archive?
Apr 02 19:03:52 <Reedy> janne-5011, which installer?
Apr 02 19:04:17 <Reedy> MrPink,  /sbin/swapoff /dev/sda3
Apr 02 19:04:32 <Reedy> with /dev/sda3 being your swap partition
Apr 02 19:05:06 <janne-5011> reddy:debian
Apr 02 19:05:37 <Reedy> Debian/NSLU2 Stable 4.0r3 ?
Apr 02 19:05:41 <janne-5011> I follow this:http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/install.html
Apr 02 19:05:43 <janne-5011> yes
Apr 02 19:19:15 <slack---line> exit
Apr 02 19:19:18 <slack---line> oops
Apr 02 19:53:22 <MrPink> Reedy: Thanks very much for that. I've got 6.10 running again, and i've turned swap off, but the disk still accesses routinely every 2 seconds or so
Apr 02 19:53:47 <Reedy> does "swapon -S" return anything?
Apr 02 19:56:01 <MrPink> invalid option -S
Apr 02 21:17:11 <MrWGW> hey
Apr 02 21:17:19 <MrWGW> I'm about to order an nSLU2 on Amazon
Apr 02 21:17:24 <MrWGW> there are two seperate listings however
Apr 02 21:17:32 <MrWGW> would I be correct in assuming they most likely refer to the same product?
Apr 02 21:17:51 <MrWGW> and in the event I'm unlucky enough to get one that is underclocked to 133 mhz, is it fairly easy to correct that?
Apr 02 21:18:07 <janne-5011> MRWGW yes
Apr 02 21:18:15 <MrWGW> superb
Apr 02 21:18:19 <janne-5011> =)
Apr 02 21:18:26 <MrWGW> is it also fairly easy to get a custom Linux onto the device, like Unslung?
Apr 02 21:18:43 <Reedy> Very easy with unslung
Apr 02 21:18:49 <janne-5011> msut say yes to that to
Apr 02 21:19:05 <MrWGW> what about Debian?
Apr 02 21:19:18 <janne-5011> cant say the same imho.
Apr 02 21:19:34 <MrWGW> with NetBSD some soldering is required, is that the case with Debian?
Apr 02 21:19:50 <janne-5011> i tried today and failed but many ppl have it working
Apr 02 21:20:04 <janne-5011> no soldering with debian
Apr 02 21:20:20 <MrWGW> also, if I dislike the custom firmware, is it possible to revert to the factory stuff (I realize, as an owner of five WRT54G units of varying types, that that is highly unlikely, but...)
Apr 02 21:20:22 <MrWGW> ah superb
Apr 02 21:20:53 <janne-5011> its easy to revert to linkys
Apr 02 21:22:37 <MrWGW> perfect
Apr 02 21:22:50 <MrWGW> my thought is I'd like to get one of these for the time being, and later possibly get a LinkStation
Apr 02 21:23:03 <janne-5011> but unslung works nice so revert will not be a option, you still got linkys features after upgrade7change
Apr 02 21:25:57 <MrWGW> just ordered it...yay
Apr 02 21:26:02 <MrWGW> Unslung I suspect is what I'll go with
Apr 02 21:26:11 <MrWGW> the only advantage I can think of with Debian would be (possibly) easier package installation
Apr 02 21:26:18 <MrWGW> which may or may not be desirable  if Unslung does what I need
Apr 02 21:26:28 <MrWGW> with Unslung, does that support SMB?
Apr 02 21:26:37 <MrWGW> i.e. Samba?
Apr 02 21:27:56 <janne-5011> yep
Apr 02 21:28:06 <MrWGW> perfect
Apr 02 21:28:12 <MrWGW> I have an old IBM desktop I'm using as a fileserver
Apr 02 21:28:25 <MrWGW> my desire is to use the NSLU2 device to run an additional fileserver to back the IBM unit up with
Apr 02 21:28:30 <MrWGW> as I do not entirely trust all the fans on the IBM
Apr 02 21:28:41 <MrWGW> and I'm using the IBM NetVista for a lot of other purposes (like for doing development on)
Apr 02 21:28:49 <MrWGW> its a 933 mhz box with 256 mb of RAM
Apr 02 21:28:56 <MrWGW> my thought is I'll run the NSLU2 as a pure fileserver
Apr 02 21:29:42 <janne-5011> nslu is  not the fastest puter in the world but if dont  backup 100 Tb/day it will do hte job.
Apr 02 21:29:58 <MrWGW> that's all I need
Apr 02 21:30:07 <MrWGW> I have like 8GB worth of files that are important enough to warrant being dual-backed up
Apr 02 21:30:25 <MrWGW> so heck, I could probably use a high end USB memory stick if I wanted to ;-p
Apr 02 21:31:06 <janne-5011> MRWGW it will be useful know about the yahoo groups
Apr 02 21:31:17 <janne-5011> got the links?
Apr 02 21:32:04 <MrWGW> no, but I can find it, but I'm not a Yahoo Group kind of guy ;-p
Apr 02 21:32:49 <janne-5011> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/
Apr 02 21:55:24 <MrWGW> the NSLU2 is not X86, right?
Apr 02 21:55:39 <Reedy> Right
Apr 02 21:55:43 <Reedy> ARM
Apr 02 21:55:45 <MrWGW> ok
Apr 02 21:55:56 <MrWGW> also, are you guys making any progress on hacking the NAS200?
Apr 02 21:56:11 <MrWGW> later in the year I either want to buy a NAS200 (if it gets hacked) or a Buffalo LinkStation
Apr 02 21:57:35 <Reedy> MrWGW, i dont think anyone here is doing anything with it
Apr 02 23:01:45 <pmyteh> Hello
Apr 02 23:02:21 <pmyteh> Anyone have any experience of using a joystick with any of the slug firmwares?
Apr 02 23:03:10 <pmyteh> I'd like to use one as a control interface for a special project, but I can't seem to get it working with unslung, even with extra kernel modules loaded
Apr 02 23:05:34 <pmyteh> Nobody?
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