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Apr 14 14:58:53 <Dinkers> Hi, everyone. I am having trouble with running crontabs. Can anybody please help me?
Apr 14 15:24:09 <nicolas_> just ask your question
Apr 14 15:24:34 <gouki> Dinkers: shoot!
Apr 14 15:25:46 <Reedy> thats a bit violent
Apr 14 15:26:15 <gouki> Reedy: :S Sorry.
Apr 14 15:26:22 <Reedy> ;P
Apr 14 15:27:31 <gouki> ~:)
Apr 14 16:02:55 <ASA> hi@all
Apr 14 16:09:27 <Dinkers> Cool thanks. I have followed this guide ; http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RtorrentLikeAPro Everything works except the the part when Iam supposed to do the crontab thing. Actually it works as well but the BT.html file is empty.
Apr 14 16:09:36 <Dinkers> Qlues?
Apr 14 16:19:04 <nicolas_> paste your crontab line
Apr 14 16:21:52 <Dinkers> */5 * * * * root python /opt/bin/rtorstat.py /public/torrents/sessions/ > /home/httpd/html/BT.html
Apr 14 16:29:17 <nicolas_> check the output of the script
Apr 14 16:30:10 <nicolas_> like in python /opt/bin/rtorstat.py /public/torrents/sessions
Apr 14 16:37:06 <Dinkers> I am sorry for being stupid but i don't really get how i should do that. 
Apr 14 16:37:31 <Reedy> he means actually run it
Apr 14 16:37:35 <Reedy> python /opt/bin/rtorstat.py /public/torrents/sessions
Apr 14 16:37:40 <Reedy> whats it display on screen?
Apr 14 16:37:51 <Reedy> As all you are doing there is redirecting it to a file
Apr 14 16:40:52 <Dinkers> ahh. sorry. It creates the code for a nice html page. looks sweet. And I would like to add that the previos step in the guide i followed. When I created a abc.html file worked perfectly.
Apr 14 16:41:24 <Reedy> so that parts actually working?
Apr 14 16:41:33 <Reedy> ie the file *is* created/replaced
Apr 14 16:42:37 <Dinkers> yes. the only thing that doesn't work is when i add it to crontab.
Apr 14 16:43:18 <nicolas_> hm, do you add it to your user's crontab?
Apr 14 16:45:18 <nicolas_> maybe it's trying to become root and fails, or you need the full path to the binary, are you sure cron is running at all?
Apr 14 16:46:29 <Dinkers> hmm. well I am logged in as root. That must mean that I am not. But i don't know actually. The BT.html file is -rwxrwxrwx
Apr 14 16:47:17 <Dinkers> yes last file was created one minute ago
Apr 14 16:47:22 <nicolas_> ah
Apr 14 16:47:28 <nicolas_> that's odd
Apr 14 16:47:35 <Dinkers> it is
Apr 14 16:48:00 <nicolas_> try putting in the path for the python binary
Apr 14 16:50:59 <Dinkers> I am sorry but how do i find the path to the python binary?
Apr 14 16:51:14 <nicolas_> which python. i would guess it's not installed
Apr 14 16:51:45 <Dinkers> /usr/bin/python
Apr 14 16:51:47 <Dinkers> =
Apr 14 16:51:49 <Dinkers> ?
Apr 14 16:51:58 <nicolas_> so look into the logfiles... if there are any
Apr 14 16:52:18 <nicolas_> hm, why doesn't openslug iptables support --dport? trying to set up port forwarding...
Apr 14 16:53:41 <Dinkers> don't find any log files
Apr 14 16:56:27 <eno> Dinkers: since you already have optware installed, why not install optware python2.4
Apr 14 16:56:43 <eno> and set python to /opt/bin/python2.4 ?
Apr 14 16:56:51 <eno> or 2.5 if you want
Apr 14 17:00:30 <Dinkers> I tried by typing ipkg install python2.5 but no such package were found.
Apr 14 17:00:44 <eno> "/opt/bin/ipkg install python25"
Apr 14 17:01:13 <eno> (be aware it's a big package)
Apr 14 17:02:34 <Dinkers> merci. 
Apr 14 17:04:15 <Dinkers> so when that is installed should i change the line in crontabs from python to opt/bin/python2.5?
Apr 14 17:04:44 <eno> yes, to /opt/bin/python2.5
Apr 14 17:12:06 <Dinkers> nope. no improvement
Apr 14 17:14:30 <Dinkers> since it works when i am not running it from crontab I don't think it's a python problem
Apr 14 17:17:30 <Dinkers> I am actually starting to think that unslung doesn't really fullfill my needs. Thinking of moving to debian. Unless It would have been such a hasel installing
Apr 14 17:19:50 <nicolas_> Dinkers: check /var/log/messages
Apr 14 17:20:22 <mwester> Did you check the standard stuff -- crontab does not set env vars such as $HOME, $PATH, etc.
Apr 14 17:21:20 <eno> how did you create the cron entry, i'm not sure unslung cron supports /etc/cron.d/
Apr 14 17:22:10 <Dinkers> log message first:
Apr 14 17:22:11 <Dinkers> Apr 14 13:24:01 (none) cron.info /opt/sbin/cron[2179]: (root) CMD (root /opt/bin/python2.5 /opt/bin/rto$
Apr 14 17:23:06 <Dinkers> i created it by the command crontab -e
Apr 14 17:23:17 <eno> that should be ok
Apr 14 17:23:40 <mwester> Does the log entry really end there, or was that a cut-n-paste limit?
Apr 14 17:23:50 <nicolas_> looks like it's trying to execute the root comman to me
Apr 14 17:24:47 <mwester> good observation, nicolas_ 
Apr 14 17:26:18 <Dinkers> Oops sorry, my bad. torstat.py /public/torrents/sessions/ > /home/httpd/html/BT.html)
Apr 14 17:26:30 <Dinkers> is the correct end to that line
Apr 14 17:29:23 <mwester> so what happens if you remove the "root" from the crontab line?
Apr 14 17:30:28 <Dinkers> and leaving it empty?
Apr 14 17:32:30 <Dinkers> well in that case it works alright! 
Apr 14 17:32:40 <Dinkers> bastardo!!! 
Apr 14 17:33:36 <Dinkers> hat of to you mr mwester
Apr 14 17:34:13 <Dinkers> do i dare ask another question?
Apr 14 17:34:52 <Reedy> if you dont ask, you wont get an answer
Apr 14 17:37:08 <Dinkers> at the end of that howto, there's a short guide howto remap keys in dtach
Apr 14 17:37:45 <Dinkers> but it still doesn't work. Think i need some help with it too.
Apr 14 17:38:05 <Reedy> BTW, have you updated any errors you've found/asked questions to fix?
Apr 14 17:39:03 <Dinkers> In the wiki? no I haven't.
Apr 14 17:39:17 <Reedy> Please do if you find errors and get answers
Apr 14 17:39:34 <Reedy> Its sorta one of the community rules - especially if "we" help to the answer
Apr 14 17:40:06 <Dinkers> Ok, Sure thing. 
Apr 14 17:40:10 <Reedy> :)
Apr 14 17:40:13 <Reedy> Which page re: dtach?
Apr 14 17:40:48 <Dinkers> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RtorrentLikeAPro
Apr 14 17:43:09 <nkuttler> did you already remove "root" from your crontab line?
Apr 14 17:43:09 <Reedy> Could just use screen
Apr 14 17:44:37 <Dinkers> yes i could. Just thaught that dtach isn't using that much memory
Apr 14 17:46:11 <Dinkers> How should i change the text in the wiki? Should i add a line saying something about if your using unslung then ,,, or should i just remove root from the text already written?
Apr 14 17:47:10 <Reedy> Just add a note/comment/line :)
Apr 14 17:47:31 <Dinkers> ok!
Apr 14 17:53:43 <Dinkers> This is my first contribution so i don't now it looks ok. Care to check it out?
Apr 14 17:53:49 <Dinkers> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RtorrentLikeAPro
Apr 14 17:54:16 <Dinkers> hope i didn't mess it up all to much
Apr 14 17:55:42 <eno> if you remove root in unslung version, ppl can ocpy 'n paste
Apr 14 17:57:13 <Reedy> i've just done that
Apr 14 17:57:14 <Dinkers> Of course that was my intention. Thanks.
Apr 14 17:57:19 <Reedy> :)
Apr 14 17:57:28 <Dinkers> thanks reedy
Apr 14 17:58:37 <Dinkers> and Thank you all that helped med with this. You guys are the best! Now I'll watch my downloads for awhile.
Apr 14 17:58:39 <Dinkers> :-)
Apr 14 17:59:03 <HardDisk_WP> do ya think I can use the NSLU2 in conjunction with an usb-dvb-t tuner as a streamingserver?
Apr 14 17:59:20 <Reedy> if you can do it with a PC... probably...
Apr 14 17:59:48 * Reedy notes the increasing number of people in here with WMF hostmasks ;)
Apr 14 18:02:26 <DogBoy> what's that
Apr 14 18:03:37 <Reedy> WikiMedia Foundation
Apr 14 18:07:01 <DogBoy> are they spys
Apr 14 18:07:37 <Reedy> lol
Apr 14 18:07:38 <Reedy> no
Apr 14 18:13:11 <HardDisk_WP> just geeks :D
Apr 14 18:13:51 <HardDisk_WP> DogBoy, u know wikipedia?
Apr 14 18:13:59 <DogBoy> never heard of it
Apr 14 18:14:30 <HardDisk_WP> anyway, the WMF runs it
Apr 14 18:15:08 <DogBoy> my slug should be in the mailbox today
Apr 14 18:15:13 <DogBoy> no way
Apr 14 18:15:43 <DogBoy> so they are the ones vandalizing hillary's entry?
Apr 14 18:34:57 <Reedy> DogBoy, no, vandals are
Apr 14 18:35:09 <DogBoy> just pulling your legs
Apr 14 18:35:14 <Reedy> ;P
Apr 14 18:35:35 <DogBoy> did you see that bit on onthemedia about it
Apr 14 18:35:57 <Reedy> nope
Apr 14 18:37:40 <DogBoy> oh, it was last week: http://onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/04/04/02
Apr 14 18:41:20 <DogBoy> <wuehlmaus> 1080p is .... ?
Apr 14 18:41:21 <DogBoy> <DogBoy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p
Apr 14 18:41:33 <DogBoy> <wuehlmaus> so, it's like almost always, take a look at wikipedia and you get your answer :)
Apr 14 18:49:18 <Dinkers> really thanks mwester, your help made all my crontab jobs to work
Apr 14 19:01:59 <Reedy> heh
Apr 14 19:02:33 <HardDisk_WP> btw
Apr 14 19:02:47 <HardDisk_WP> are both USB ports fullspeed or is one USB1.1 only
Apr 14 20:49:20 <NSLU2-IRC> hello
Apr 14 20:50:22 <NSLU2-IRC> I would like to run java in a Synology CS 407, do you now how please ?
Apr 14 20:51:02 <peabody> How do I flash the firmware using Vista x64? I tried using the sercomm utility, but it says that it is the wrong version for my operating system, that I need to contact the manufacturer for an x64 version of the software
Apr 14 20:51:37 <Reedy> peabody, force into XP SP2 compatabilty mode
Apr 14 20:51:44 <peabody> I ran it in compatibility for XP sp2 in admin mode as the FAQ says
Apr 14 20:52:10 <peabody> but it doesn't even get to a UAC prompt to run in privledged mode
Apr 14 20:52:53 <Reedy> I havent actually tried it on vista since i upgraded
Apr 14 20:55:08 <peabody> I can't use the linksys firmware updater in the web interface, can I?
Apr 14 20:55:49 <Reedy> If its on the stock firmware, then yes, you can
Apr 14 20:56:25 <peabody> hmm
Apr 14 20:56:55 <peabody> should I install it to a thumb drive, or should I install it to my USB where I will share all my media from?
Apr 14 20:57:09 <Dinkers> What is the proper way to umount a usb unit with unslung?
Apr 14 20:59:24 <peabody> hmm bedtime
Apr 14 20:59:27 <peabody> thanks
Apr 14 22:59:17 <nkuttler> hm, the 5.0 debian installer seems to be hanging at apt configuration... anybody seen this? the connection is still up and i can ssh in. it's been like an hour or so...
Apr 14 23:12:30 <nkuttler> ok, killing the process + re-running seems to work
Apr 14 23:51:13 <nkuttler> hm, can i just flash /target/boot/apex.flash to the firmware to boot from disk? 
Apr 15 00:20:14 <Smurf-Slayer> Anyone here?
Apr 15 00:20:37 <DrJ> hey
Apr 15 00:20:40 <Smurf-Slayer> If I unslung one box and have the drive that I used to do it, can that same drive be used to boot another NSLU2 that has already been unslung?
Apr 15 00:20:59 <DrJ> yes
Apr 15 00:21:05 <Smurf-Slayer> Or is there something in there that it knows it is not the disk that was used.
Apr 15 00:21:08 <Smurf-Slayer> Okay...
Apr 15 00:21:37 <Smurf-Slayer> So, I can use another drive to unslung a second box, and then format it and clone the first box and then the two will be the same??
Apr 15 00:22:14 <DrJ> if they both have unslung installed, they could both use the same disk/image you have
Apr 15 00:23:17 <Smurf-Slayer> Okay, great!  thanks!
Apr 15 00:42:57 <Smurf-Slayer> DRJ - How many NSLU2's do you have?
Apr 15 00:43:04 <DrJ> 1
Apr 15 00:43:20 <DrJ> why?
Apr 15 00:43:53 <Smurf-Slayer> I'm just wondering what everyone is doing with thiers.  I've tried to get mediatomb to run on mine.
Apr 15 00:44:17 <Smurf-Slayer> But I keep having a problem with file copies...  It bombs out and says the share is gone after about 4 or 5 MP3's.
Apr 15 00:44:41 <Smurf-Slayer> Unable to track down the problem, so I have another one here to try.  I thought I had a line on 3 or 4 free ones, but it didn't pan out...
Apr 15 00:45:13 <DrJ> might want to consider upgrading samba
Apr 15 00:46:05 <DrJ> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Samba
Apr 15 00:46:07 <Smurf-Slayer> Is there an upgrade for Samba that is newer than 6.10 beta?
Apr 15 00:46:09 <DrJ> might help fix your problem
Apr 15 00:46:16 <DrJ> eh
Apr 15 00:46:21 <DrJ> samba on unslung is samba2
Apr 15 00:46:28 <DrJ> you can install samba3
Apr 15 00:46:40 <DrJ> instructions at that link I pasted above
Apr 15 00:47:00 <Smurf-Slayer> Is three better than 2 or is it something totally different?
Apr 15 00:47:07 <DrJ> yes
Apr 15 00:47:25 <DrJ> but
Apr 15 00:47:34 <DrJ> it will basically render the linksys web config useless
Apr 15 00:47:51 <Smurf-Slayer> Hmmmm
Apr 15 00:47:57 <DrJ> you'll use the SWAT web control panel for settings once you install samba3
Apr 15 00:48:15 <Smurf-Slayer> Isn't the default ip 192.168.0.77 when you hold the reset button for 10 seconds/til it beeps?
Apr 15 00:48:31 <DrJ> yea
Apr 15 00:49:20 <Smurf-Slayer> Hmmm... This one I just upslug2 on doesn't seem to answer to that IP...
Apr 15 00:51:19 <DrJ> is your computer in the 192.168.0.x network?
Apr 15 00:53:45 <Smurf-Slayer> Yes.
Apr 15 00:57:34 <DrJ> I don't know then
Apr 15 00:57:51 <DrJ> you could try to port scan
Apr 15 00:59:12 <Smurf-Slayer> So, holding it in until it beeps is supposed to reset the IP right?
Apr 15 00:59:29 <Smurf-Slayer> Holding it in 30 seconds is supposed to do something too, right?  I believe that was reset the password?
Apr 15 01:00:36 <Smurf-Slayer> I don't plug the usb HDD in until it is booted up, right?
Apr 15 01:01:37 <DrJ> have you already unslinged?
Apr 15 01:01:50 <DrJ> eh, nvm
Apr 15 01:01:53 <DrJ> obviously not
Apr 15 01:05:39 <DrJ> do you know what the IP was before you installed unslung on it
Apr 15 01:05:40 <DrJ> ?
Apr 15 01:08:36 <Smurf-Slayer> No, I got it off ebay...
Apr 15 01:09:29 <DrJ> the slug probably has an ip of 192.168.1.x then
Apr 15 01:09:30 <nkuttler> Smurf-Slayer: i think you have to telnet into redboot to reset the config
Apr 15 01:09:53 <DrJ> eh, I would try searching the 192.168.1.x network first
Apr 15 01:10:24 <Smurf-Slayer> How would you do that?
Apr 15 01:10:24 <DrJ> Smurf-Slayer
Apr 15 01:10:43 <Smurf-Slayer> What doesn't holding the reset button in until it beeps cause it to go back to 192.168.0.77?
Apr 15 01:11:11 <Smurf-Slayer> Doh!  That's what it is, it defaults to 192.168.1.77, not 0.77, right?
Apr 15 01:11:14 <nkuttler> it's 1.77, read the wiki or scan your network (nmap -sP)
Apr 15 01:11:23 <DrJ> yea, hehe
Apr 15 01:16:13 <Smurf-Slayer> I did 192.168.1.x but it didn't come back with anything?
Apr 15 01:20:21 <Smurf-Slayer> I can't remember how I got to it last time.  They had me add the 192.168.1.x to my ETH0 card on my Ubuntu box, but I  think someone had another way that was quicker that worked, but I can't remember what it was!  ARG!
Apr 15 01:22:03 <Smurf-Slayer> I thought it was this, "sudo route add 192.168.1.77 eth0" but that doesn't work either.
Apr 15 01:24:12 <Smurf-Slayer> Any ideas?
Apr 15 01:30:59 <Smurf-Slayer> Hmmm...  It is still saying that it is R23V63 even though I have UPSLUG2'd it twice now?  What am I doing wrong?
Apr 15 01:31:32 <Smurf-Slayer> This is my command :  sudo upslug2 --image Unslung-6.10-beta.bin
Apr 15 01:31:47 <Smurf-Slayer> And it goes through and says everything is fine and reboots...
Apr 15 01:32:17 <Smurf-Slayer> But then I put it back in to programming mode and run UPSLUG 2 again and it still says R23V63?
Apr 15 01:34:00 <mwester> That's the signature on the wire; Unslung is based on v63 firmware, and that firmware identifies itself.
Apr 15 01:34:34 <Smurf-Slayer> Mwester!  How are you?
Apr 15 01:34:49 <Smurf-Slayer> So you are saying it is really updated, but I can't tell using that?
Apr 15 01:36:02 <Smurf-Slayer> I've held the reset button in for the 10 seconds to reset the IP (and it beeped) and I've also held it in for over thirty seconds.  BUt I can't get to it.  I can't remember how you goes walked me through it last time so I could change the IP from 192.168.1.x to 192.168.0.x
Apr 15 01:37:07 <Smurf-Slayer> "goes" = "guys"
Apr 15 01:37:58 <nkuttler> why do you even want to do that?
Apr 15 01:38:46 <Smurf-Slayer> So I can get to it from my other computers.
Apr 15 01:40:49 <Smurf-Slayer> Or do you mean something other than the IP address?
Apr 15 01:41:51 <nkuttler> so unslung is installed?
Apr 15 01:42:27 <Smurf-Slayer> I have ran UPSLUG2 several times with the command above.  So, yes, I believe it is.
Apr 15 01:43:00 <nkuttler> so you don't know the ip of the box?
Apr 15 01:43:32 <Smurf-Slayer> well, it should be 192.168.1.77 since I reset it.  But all of my computers are on 192.168.0.x so they can't see it.
Apr 15 01:43:45 <nkuttler> do you have a linux box?
Apr 15 01:44:08 <Smurf-Slayer> Yes
Apr 15 01:44:14 <Smurf-Slayer> I've tried this...
Apr 15 01:44:23 <nkuttler> try ifconfig eth0:0 inet 192.168.1.1 up
Apr 15 01:44:24 <Smurf-Slayer> I thought it was this, "sudo route add 192.168.1.77 eth0" but that doesn't work either.
Apr 15 01:44:42 <nkuttler> then use whatever method to change the ip once you can access it
Apr 15 01:44:49 <nkuttler> i think unslung has the web interface
Apr 15 01:45:28 <Smurf-Slayer> I did that command too, and I can't get to it.
Apr 15 01:45:43 <nkuttler> then it's not on 192.168.1.77
Apr 15 01:46:05 <nkuttler> nmap -sP 192.168.1.1-255
Apr 15 01:46:16 <Smurf-Slayer> Holding the reset button in until it beeps (about 10 seconds) is supposed to set it back to 192.168.1.77, right?
Apr 15 01:46:38 <nkuttler> i don't know and i really don't think so
Apr 15 01:46:49 <nkuttler> as i told you before, telnet into red boot
Apr 15 01:47:22 <Smurf-Slayer> I don't know how to do that?  I didn't do it on the last one, but I will try?
Apr 15 01:48:09 <Smurf-Slayer> The nmap said that 192.168.1.1 appears to be up, which is one of the ETH0:0 things on ifconfig
Apr 15 01:48:39 <nkuttler> yeah, that's your linux box. you could try other subnets or go to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TelnetIntoRedBoot
Apr 15 01:49:21 <nkuttler> and http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ResetSysConf
Apr 15 01:54:27 <Smurf-Slayer> I didn't have to do that to be able to get in to the last one I didn't know the IP of?
Apr 15 02:25:54 <mwester> Smurf-Slayer:  The wiki lists the URL for the place that stores the logs of this channel; you could find the logs for the last time you needed help with this.
Apr 15 02:26:48 <mwester> Smurf-Slayer:  You can also try this:  http://moko.mwester.net/unslung_sample_bootdisk.zip   -- If that is helpful, please write that up for the wiki.
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