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May 12 11:35:02 <cliffcook> i am new to the slug and linux I have a 4GB usb sitck running unslung and a 2nd external 250 gb hdd i have formatted the segate ok but how to i switch to that disk in putty session in other words what the linux equivlant of the dos commnand D: 
May 12 11:36:16 <HardDisk_WP> well
May 12 11:36:20 <HardDisk_WP> you have to mount it
May 12 11:36:33 <HardDisk_WP> then cd /path/to/mount/point
May 12 11:38:24 <cliffcook> thanks Harddisk i have found the mount command can i mount with any name i like or weil there be a name i must use
May 12 11:38:38 <HardDisk_WP> well
May 12 11:38:43 <HardDisk_WP> it's simple
May 12 11:38:50 <HardDisk_WP> mkdir /media/disk
May 12 11:38:59 <HardDisk_WP> mount /dev/DEVFILE /media/disk
May 12 11:43:49 <cliffcook> it wont let me create the /media/disk dir it says no such file or directory
May 12 11:44:20 <cliffcook> i have got a share to the the disk in windows so i know the disk is there 
May 12 11:45:21 <HardDisk_WP> run "mount"
May 12 11:45:29 <HardDisk_WP> paste its output here
May 12 11:47:12 <cliffcook> for some reason when i paste here its not sending the info
May 12 11:47:26 <HardDisk_WP> because it starts with /
May 12 11:47:32 <HardDisk_WP> copy it to pastebin.ca
May 12 11:47:33 <HardDisk_WP> sorry
May 12 11:48:22 <cliffcook> db2 on /share/hdd/conf type ext3 (defaults)
May 12 11:49:11 <HardDisk_WP> pastebin please
May 12 11:50:15 <cliffcook> ok dumb question no 101 how to i paste to pastebin.ca
May 12 11:50:33 <HardDisk_WP> open the site
May 12 11:50:45 <HardDisk_WP> copy the text into the big fat textbox
May 12 11:50:48 <HardDisk_WP> click on submit
May 12 11:51:25 <cliffcook> i see pastebin.ca is a web site dumb me blonde moment there sorry
May 12 11:51:41 <HardDisk_WP> Lol
May 12 11:53:53 <cliffcook> done 
May 12 11:54:12 <HardDisk_WP> cliffcook, give me the URL please
May 12 11:54:20 <cliffcook> but i forgot to put me name on it doh
May 12 11:55:06 <cliffcook> http://www.pastebin.ca/1015673
May 12 11:55:39 <HardDisk_WP> doesnt matte
May 12 11:56:06 <HardDisk_WP> cd /share/hdd/data
May 12 11:56:10 <HardDisk_WP> then you should be there
May 12 11:57:37 <cliffcook> i dont know if this helps but i am doming something that should not be working according to all the info i am slung from a Memory stick in port 1 the hdd is in port 2
May 12 11:57:59 <cliffcook> i can now ls the contents of me mem ory sick 
May 12 11:58:46 <cliffcook> is this where i need to put the /media/disk dir
May 12 12:00:02 <HardDisk_WP> no
May 12 12:00:07 <HardDisk_WP> you dont need to now
May 12 12:00:15 <HardDisk_WP> the slug has auto-mounted the disk
May 12 12:00:18 <HardDisk_WP> what I didnt know
May 12 12:09:36 <cliffcook> i see when i do an LS on that disk it looks like my memory sick not my segate can i see how much free space is on the disk then i can conferm wich on its 
May 12 12:11:09 <HardDisk_WP> df -h
May 12 12:17:18 <cliffcook> thank for all your help harddisk i have pastedbind the out put from df -h http://www.pastebin.ca/1015681 does that look like 250 mb drive i have set a share called drive 2 on this drive but i cannot seem to see it, or would i not see a share on the drive only if i linked to that share say in windows
May 12 12:20:18 <cliffcook> for example if i look at the share on drive 2 \\myserver\admin2 the only folders i can see are drive2 and public sorry if i seem a little dumb here i am an IT techy but until i got me slug i have never users linux before i have orderd a linux for dummys book to help
May 12 12:30:02 <HardDisk_WP> no idea...sorry
May 12 12:30:15 <HardDisk_WP> i have no real experience with unslung
May 12 12:32:44 <cliffcook> i can see drive 2 on my windows box by shareing the dive with the built in share admin 2 but i want to set up a web server in the end and i want to put the files i want to share on the 2nd drive but i need to know i can see it 1st thanks for all your help hardisk 
May 12 13:55:29 <First> Hi
May 12 13:58:05 <First> I'm running SlugOS/BE, is it normal that the LED sequence at startup is: amber - RED - amber  - beep - blinking amber - blinking green/amber - green?
May 12 13:58:21 <First> I can't seem to SSH to the slug after startup...
May 12 13:58:47 <First> Has this got anything to do with the red led at startup?
May 12 14:04:23 <treitmayr> First: Is this your first install or did you change your installation somehow?
May 12 14:04:54 <First> Right before i restarted i altered inittab according to http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/reducing-memory.html
May 12 14:05:21 <First> I commented the line #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 115200 linux
May 12 14:05:33 <First> which was actually a bit different on my machine
May 12 14:05:47 <First> but still ended with ttyS0
May 12 14:06:52 <treitmayr> hmm, I have no experience with doing that...
May 12 14:06:57 <treitmayr> you still get the serial console?
May 12 14:08:18 <First> isn't ttyS0 for a physical serial port inside the slug? (which I haven't connected) Or did i understand that wrongly?
May 12 14:08:33 <First> I always SSH to the slug over LAN
May 12 14:08:56 <First> But that doesn't work anymore
May 12 14:09:29 <treitmayr> ok, I didn't understand "but still ended with ttyS0"
May 12 14:10:07 <First> I will copy the actual line from my inittab file for you... hang on...
May 12 14:11:26 <First> The line I commented in inittab: #S:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 ttyS0
May 12 14:14:14 <bizkut_> hi all
May 12 14:14:23 <First> isn't ttyS0 the serail port wich is discussed on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddASerialPort under "pinout of the J2 serial port"?
May 12 14:14:26 <First> hi
May 12 14:15:01 <bizkut_> First, do you have any windows mobile pda/phone?
May 12 14:15:25 <First> No i haven't
May 12 14:15:43 <treitmayr> First: yes I think so
May 12 14:15:47 <bizkut_> lucky if you have
May 12 14:16:18 <bizkut_> put jS:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 ttyUSB0
May 12 14:17:06 <bizkut_> then plug in the usb charger you can get vt100 terminal from wince device
May 12 14:17:21 <treitmayr> bizkut_: why would you need a tty at all?
May 12 14:17:39 <bizkut_> because don't have pc/eth?
May 12 14:18:26 <treitmayr> bizkut_: I don't think that is First's setup though
May 12 14:18:43 <First> No, it isn't
May 12 14:19:00 <bizkut_> at least an alternative to serial hack
May 12 14:20:28 <bizkut_> sorry i missed the earlier discussion
May 12 14:21:36 <First> summary: I can't ssh into slug. It doesn't show up on the network. I'm running SlugOS/BE, the LED sequence at startup is: amber - RED - amber  - beep - blinking amber - blinking green/amber - green? I tought it might have something to do with the red led
May 12 14:22:03 <First> I did modify inittab just before restaring
May 12 14:22:23 <mwester> The red led isn't causing the failure to boot; almost certainly your inittab changes broke it!
May 12 14:22:43 <mwester> If you are running SlugOS, unplug the disks, boot it up, ssh into it, then plug in the disks.
May 12 14:23:00 <mwester> You will then find your disks mounted (usually) in /media/<whatever>
May 12 14:23:10 <mwester> Find the etc/inittab, and put it back.
May 12 14:23:13 <First> if I where to load the inittab file from the memorystick with slugOS on a windows computer an alter the file back, would that work?
May 12 14:23:33 <mwester> Not usually.
May 12 14:23:55 <First> would probably have to be a linux computer for compatibility of the text files?
May 12 14:23:57 <mwester> Windows lacks the ext2/3 driver to read the media, Windows also likes to change line terminations in text files so that Linux can't read them.
May 12 14:24:08 <First> I have the ext driver on my windows machine
May 12 14:24:13 <mwester> Yep, you would need to boot up a live CD or something.
May 12 14:24:26 <mwester> But why do that, when you have a perfectly usable SLUG that's already running Linux?
May 12 14:24:50 <First> yes, but i can't give it any commands since I can't ssh to it
May 12 14:25:00 <mwester> Read my comments (above)
May 12 14:25:30 <First> so I unplug all the disks, including the one with the OS?
May 12 14:26:04 <mwester> Exactly.
May 12 14:26:17 <First> Ok, here it goes... :-)
May 12 14:26:22 <mwester> Then it boots entirely from internal flash, in a recovery mode.
May 12 14:26:51 <First> OK it beeps after post and then it gives me 2 high beeps...
May 12 14:27:25 <First> probably to indicate there is no disk with OS => recovery mode?
May 12 14:27:32 <mwester> Yep.
May 12 14:27:56 <First> IP is 192.168.1.77?
May 12 14:28:04 <mwester> It should be on the network, on the IP address it originally had when you first issued the "turnup" command.
May 12 14:29:22 <First> OK, i can see it on my network...
May 12 14:29:27 <First> trying to ssh
May 12 14:39:04 <First> I can ssh into the machine, but when i connect the memorystick and it mounts on /media/sda1, it is read only...
May 12 14:40:00 <First> I tried to mount it myself and i got: "mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read only"
May 12 14:40:46 <First> does it have anything to do with the fact that I put the memorystick in port 2 of the slug (upper port)?
May 12 14:42:30 <mwester> No.  If it is read-only, there is usually a reason for that.
May 12 14:42:56 <mwester> check the output from "dmesg" to see what errors might be recorded.
May 12 14:43:24 <mwester> You may need to umount it, and run fsck on it in order to repair any possible file-system problems.
May 12 14:45:22 <First> dmesg doesn't give an error, it only says (apart from the fact it has recognised the memorystick) : sda: write protect is on
May 12 14:46:43 <First> i will now try fsck
May 12 14:50:55 <First> fsck says the superblock could not be read or it is'nt a correct ext2 filesystem. The filesystem is actually ext3, but i presume that is OK?
May 12 14:51:54 <First> fsck suggests: running e2fsck with an alternate superblock...
May 12 14:52:00 <First> will try that now
May 12 14:53:02 <mwester> No, I wouldn't let it fix anything at this point; something else is wrong.
May 12 14:54:38 <mwester> I have to get to work; perhaps someone else can assist.  You need to figure out what's going on with that device.
May 12 14:54:41 <mwester> bbl
May 12 14:57:28 <First> perhaps the memorystick has developed an error... It has been running since newyear...
May 12 14:58:03 <First> altough there has always been enough RAM to avoid swapping to disk
May 12 14:58:23 <First> ...except for today when i installed lighttpd
May 12 15:13:00 <HardDisk_WP> First, i'm pretty sure your stick _has_ an hardware lock
May 12 15:13:09 <HardDisk_WP> look for a really tiny slider
May 12 15:14:03 <First> i'm sorry, it doesn't have one
May 12 15:14:57 <bizkut_> i think it's wore
May 12 15:15:08 <First> to many writes?
May 12 15:15:13 <bizkut_> could be
May 12 15:15:30 <bizkut_> happened to my usb thumbdrive before
May 12 15:15:37 <First> after how long?
May 12 15:15:46 <bizkut_> it said read-only
May 12 15:15:53 <bizkut_> 2 years
May 12 15:16:04 <First> mine is 5 months old...
May 12 15:16:11 <First> was cheap dough
May 12 15:16:18 <First> transcend
May 12 15:16:23 <bizkut_> too soon to die
May 12 15:16:27 <First> ;-)
May 12 15:16:49 <bizkut_> transcend is a good name
May 12 15:17:03 <bizkut_> but i don't know about the quality
May 12 15:17:37 <HardDisk_WP> normally transcend is reliable...
May 12 15:17:44 <HardDisk_WP> pastebin the whole dmesg, please
May 12 15:17:47 <First> if i where able to write to it from my windows machine, would that mean something?
May 12 15:17:51 <First> ok, willdo
May 12 15:18:15 <bizkut_> First, try it on windows
May 12 15:18:46 <HardDisk_WP> afk, food
May 12 15:19:24 <First> medium is write protected says windows...
May 12 15:20:44 <bizkut_> died
May 12 15:23:19 <First> i find it strange it can die just like that... At least I can still read my files... Just tying to look on the bright side...
May 12 15:24:09 <First> thanks for all the help... I really appreciate it
May 12 15:25:56 <bizkut_> np
May 12 16:37:00 <bizkut> Pinky__1, this is your first slug?
May 12 16:38:12 <Pinky__1> bizkut: yup
May 12 16:38:35 <bizkut> nice then 
May 12 16:39:10 <bizkut> i wish you have lot of fun with it
May 12 16:39:27 <Pinky__1> thank you :) so do i
May 12 16:40:35 <Pinky__1> ok, if it did the three beeps but i cannot connect to it with ssh, what now? the beeps came really quick btw, less than 5 min
May 12 16:44:06 <bizkut> when?
May 12 16:44:31 <Pinky__1> lol this is odd. i had it configured for 192.168.1.77, but it seems to have changed to dhcp. found it and connected now
May 12 16:54:41 <Pinky__1> should the ssh connection be closed when it starts formatting the drive?
May 12 16:54:48 <Pinky__1> cause it did that :)
May 12 16:54:59 <PPmarcel> with wich firmware?
May 12 16:55:25 <Pinky__1> debian
May 12 16:55:33 <PPmarcel> have you resized the window?
May 12 16:55:35 <Pinky__1> stable
May 12 16:55:44 <Pinky__1> not since i connected with ssh no
May 12 16:55:50 <PPmarcel> so i don't know :)
May 12 16:55:57 <Pinky__1> i did while running upslug2
May 12 16:56:28 <PPmarcel> it's not a problem with uplslug
May 12 16:56:56 <PPmarcel> but ssh can stop with debian if you touch the window
May 12 16:57:01 <Pinky__1> ah ok
May 12 16:57:12 <bizkut> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/TroubleShooting
May 12 16:57:22 <bizkut> it's there
May 12 16:57:40 <bizkut> out of memory
May 12 16:57:52 <bizkut> that's why it needs swap badly
May 12 16:58:12 <PPmarcel> oh
May 12 16:59:03 <bizkut> better you do partitioning on pc first then
May 12 16:59:21 <bizkut> Create the partitions on another Linux machine using (c)fdisk and mk2fs.ext3 and then start the NSLU2 debian installer, choose manual partitioning and set the ext3 partition as root (/). 
May 12 17:00:08 <bizkut> also here http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/DebianInstallerDisconnectsSSH
May 12 17:00:30 <Pinky__1> ty will try this
May 12 17:04:51 <bizkut> brb
May 12 17:09:45 <Reedy> Pinky__1, as it stands, if you set it to 1.77 as static it will take DHCP
May 12 17:10:35 <Pinky__1> ok
May 12 18:40:42 <skream> if i format a second hard drive with unslung, will tht effect anything?
May 12 18:59:02 <Pinky__1> yesterday i had some problems with the transfer speed to my slug when connected over wireless. today i found out that the slug seems to disturb the wireless somehow, and the transfer speed got much better and more stable after moving the slug away from the router just a little bit.
May 12 18:59:10 <Pinky__1> i wonder how many others had this problem without finding out :)
May 12 19:01:32 <mwester> skream:  http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/WhichUSBPortforUnslung6'
May 12 21:06:05 <ShadowJK> Pinky__1, oh, yeah, wireless routers don't like to be near other electronics :-)
May 12 21:09:25 <Pinky__1> ShadowJK: never had any problems with it before, not even with my wireless phone, so i'm a bit surprised actually :)
May 12 21:10:39 <ShadowJK> I've heard of it other way around too, a wireless router interfering with digital tv
May 12 21:10:44 <ShadowJK> completely different frequencies...
May 12 21:10:55 <Pinky__1> hehe that is odd :)
May 12 21:11:01 <ShadowJK> It must be the electronics itself radiating
May 12 21:11:07 <Pinky__1> probably
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