**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 15 02:59:56 2008 May 15 07:51:08 Hey guys May 15 07:51:25 I just unslung my NSLU2, and I'm having trouble getting started May 15 07:51:47 what's the problem? May 15 07:51:49 I never used linux before and don't really have a clue as to what I can do now that I'v Unslung May 15 07:52:10 install the things you need ;-) May 15 07:52:11 Is there a sort 'I've unslung, now what?' page in the wiki? I haven't found it May 15 07:52:39 heh, seems like sound advice Nightwolf :) May 15 07:53:15 But basically here I am staring at an SSH session, listing packages, giving senseless commands May 15 07:53:16 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/NewUsersGuide May 15 07:54:02 you should think about flashing debian also May 15 07:54:33 I was thinking the same thing. But reading those instructions make me feel very much in the dark May 15 07:55:28 You probably can't relate to this (I'm guessing you're an experienced user), but having only a command line makes you feel helpless when it's been over 10 years since youi've used DOS :) May 15 07:55:38 You May 15 07:55:47 're wondering: how do I drag and drop ;) May 15 08:00:05 you'll get used to it May 15 08:00:23 Why would you say flashing to debian is useful Nightwolf? May 15 08:00:33 i have very little experience with unslung because i use debian May 15 08:02:40 unslung is the normal linksys software, debian is one of the most used os for servers (could be more secure also) May 15 08:02:48 and you have much more possibilities May 15 08:03:03 and you have much more howtos and stuff May 15 08:03:18 I see May 15 08:05:55 Would you say it's stable? Or will I be running into problems all the time? May 15 08:07:05 Also, will running debian mean that I can use any tutorials/info out there on using debian (instead of stuff specifically written for the NSLU2)? That seems not to be the case with unslung since it's very slug specific (rigth?) May 15 08:07:25 * waltervos hates not knowing what he's talking about May 15 08:24:31 right May 15 11:44:40 Hey guys May 15 11:45:37 waltervos: wb May 15 11:45:43 I'm trying to install debian, but I'm stuck at the step where I need to do partitioning in the installer May 15 11:46:00 let me guess: your ssh connection is cut? May 15 11:46:06 No it isn't May 15 11:46:19 I'm just wondering which partition I'm supposed to pick? May 15 11:46:28 I don't think I see my USB hard drive there May 15 11:46:55 then you've done something wrong May 15 11:46:59 hmm May 15 11:47:14 The light on my slug for the disk in question is off as well May 15 11:48:36 What I did was: when I still had unslung installed I formatted the disk through the web interface. After that I flashed the slug and then connected to it through ssh May 15 11:48:58 pff... nvm, I was too soon to ask May 15 11:49:06 Rebooting worked May 15 11:49:28 Just not sure what exactly I did wrong. I rebooted before May 15 11:49:51 well, if it's working now... is it working? May 15 11:50:04 Yes it is May 15 11:50:16 Any recommendations on what type of partioning scheme to choose? May 15 11:51:51 i use 512 mb swap and the rest for /, you should think about putting tmp, var, home in own partitions May 15 11:53:35 what exactly are the different directories used for (/home, /var and /usr) May 15 11:53:48 is /usr what documents & settings is in windows? May 15 11:54:04 i mean uers/documents & settings May 15 11:54:18 n/usr = unix system ressources May 15 11:54:39 sorry have to leave now, bb at 15:30 May 15 11:54:49 np May 15 11:54:54 thnx for the help so far May 15 11:54:55 adios! May 15 13:33:14 re May 15 14:25:39 hi May 15 14:51:22 hey has anyone experiences with debian on the nslu2 May 15 15:10:21 yes... May 15 16:52:23 hey has anyone experiences with the debian install on the nslu2 May 15 16:57:35 goetzchr, yes i am May 15 17:02:27 bizkut, did the installer finish ? May 15 17:02:48 yes but with pain in the arse May 15 17:03:03 goetzchr, do you install etch or lenny? May 15 17:04:03 bizkut, hehe i try to install etch May 15 17:04:28 you better try the unpack method May 15 17:04:43 http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/unpack.html May 15 17:04:59 safe you much of time May 15 17:05:22 ah ok May 15 17:06:45 the first 10 tries were without sucess but the 10. try i finish the installer but then the slug didnt boot May 15 17:07:56 lol me too May 15 17:10:47 ah when i copy the system to my usbdrive there noting else to do .... May 15 17:11:39 just try the unpack method May 15 17:11:54 worked for me in first try May 15 17:11:59 oh May 15 17:12:01 nice May 15 17:12:02 hehe May 15 17:12:47 i just try to install lenny and finally it works May 15 17:12:48 i'm downloading the base package right now but i only have a slow DSL so this take half an hour May 15 17:12:59 10kbps? May 15 17:13:11 no May 15 17:13:32 45kbps May 15 17:13:47 under 45 it is no DSL haha May 15 17:14:06 because this is DSl light with a bandwith of 345kbit May 15 17:14:07 45 is quite good May 15 17:14:20 better than 10 May 15 17:14:23 lol May 15 17:14:35 do u have only 10 ? May 15 17:14:58 no I got average 100 May 15 17:15:24 just fine May 15 17:16:49 yeah i live in a little town with 10 houses and i am the only person who has got dsl .....because i was the first May 15 17:16:52 haha May 15 17:18:15 special May 15 17:18:19 where do you live? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 15 17:18:19 2008 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 15 17:20:14 2008 May 15 17:21:00 in germany 50km next to munich May 15 17:21:38 so it's quite far from munich May 15 17:21:56 so you use km instead of mile May 15 17:22:01 :D May 15 17:22:30 with the car about 1 hour May 15 17:23:16 not too far May 15 17:23:43 why don't you get an ibook from local? May 15 17:24:10 sorry wrong window May 15 17:24:12 LOL May 15 17:24:36 goetzchr, do you just got the slug? May 15 17:25:12 i bought the slug about 1 week ago May 15 17:25:39 I just got it yesterday May 15 17:27:05 and debian works good? May 15 17:27:07 and I just turn it to upgrade mode May 15 17:27:29 forgot to take alook at orinal web interface May 15 17:27:38 yes debian just run great May 15 17:27:43 I run lenny May 15 17:28:08 manual install from scratch May 15 17:28:26 if etch will not work i try lenny too May 15 17:29:02 etch works good if installed properly May 15 17:29:32 I tried to upgrade to lenny from etch but the slug refuse to boot May 15 17:30:05 so I start over from scratch using lenny bin May 15 17:30:39 sorry what does scratch mean ? May 15 17:32:21 from beginning with empty disk May 15 17:32:28 ah ok May 15 17:32:32 using the lenny installer May 15 17:32:49 and took 4 hours to complete May 15 17:33:43 and then the slug boot? May 15 17:36:31 yes boot fine May 15 17:36:38 no problem so far May 15 17:37:01 I am installing openslug on my friend's slug right now May 15 17:37:46 on which linux is this based? May 15 17:39:23 i think debian definitely May 15 17:39:45 much flexibility and maintained May 15 17:40:09 oh it's debian based May 15 17:40:28 so what is the difference? May 15 17:40:36 between debian and openslug May 15 17:40:37 ? May 15 17:42:41 openslug use openembedded packages May 15 17:42:53 and unslung packages May 15 17:43:11 debian uses .deb May 15 17:44:13 okay May 15 17:44:35 the first day i got my slug i install unslung but i didnt like it May 15 17:44:37 openslug is kind of old name, we call it slugosbe now May 15 17:45:13 see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/FirmwareMatrix May 15 17:45:44 oh yes slugos not openslug May 15 17:47:03 you must disable a few default service on debian to retain more memory May 15 17:47:41 bizkut@bizkut-ubuntu:~/Documents/NSLU2$ sudo upslug2 -i slugosbe-4.8-beta-nslu2.bin May 15 17:49:55 do you know which services i can disable ? May 15 17:50:11 NFS/exim4 May 15 17:50:27 serial port getty May 15 17:50:58 ah the download is finished May 15 17:52:17 40 minutes May 15 17:54:09 yeah its okay... May 15 17:56:26 it's worth May 15 18:10:42 so the base system is extracted May 15 18:13:01 i got a slug without thumb features on it's cpu May 15 18:13:09 is it normal? May 15 18:13:35 from cat /proc/cpuinfo May 15 18:13:38 Features : swp half fastmult edsp May 15 18:13:53 strange May 15 18:14:11 another one got thumb May 15 18:14:19 Features : swp half thumb fastmult edsp May 15 18:16:15 Processor : XScale-IXP42x Family rev 1 (v5l) May 15 18:16:40 hmm i dont know May 15 18:17:24 the slugOSbe much lighter than debian May 15 18:18:19 and not so difficult to install? May 15 18:18:40 then i perhaps chose slugosbe too ...hehe May 15 18:18:48 much easier May 15 18:19:03 just need the bin and a disk May 15 18:19:26 like unslung? May 15 18:19:31 little install instruction and it's ready on the disk May 15 18:19:53 somewhat like unslung May 15 18:20:25 but with 2.6 kernel and no web interface May 15 18:20:55 more like debian but uses ipk packages May 15 18:21:00 slugosbe didn't seem to have alot of ipkg software compared to unslung May 15 18:21:41 vk0, i thought slugosbe uses unslung packages May 15 18:22:04 plus openembedded packages May 15 18:22:32 by default it doesn't have many packages unlsung has, but it can use unslung packages, although it ofcourse installs them in weird locations (/opt) May 15 18:22:52 any irssi caused weird glibc pointer error May 15 18:23:07 s/any/and May 15 18:23:09 to be accurate, slugosbe, as installed, uses openembedded packages May 15 18:23:13 treat them as optware May 15 18:23:27 optionally, you can use optware/slugosbe feed May 15 18:23:52 notice optware/slugosbe != optware/nslu2 (unslung) May 15 18:24:17 oh, i didn't notice that May 15 18:24:49 so it uses it's own optware May 15 18:25:20 the suggested installation installation steps for optware/slugosbe is at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Slugosbe May 15 18:26:21 optware installs files under /opt, that's by design May 15 18:28:16 hey why has the etch firmware no file extension .....i think it should be bin ... May 15 18:29:45 it works without extension May 15 18:30:04 you no linux need no file extensions May 15 18:30:12 *know May 15 18:30:42 yeah but at the moment i have no linux system here ..... May 15 18:30:45 ^ May 15 18:30:49 ^^ May 15 18:31:08 but the bin itself is a linux :) May 15 18:31:18 yeah May 15 18:31:47 but i have a windows tool to flash the firmware from the pc of my dad.... May 15 18:32:01 just rename and put the .bin May 15 18:32:10 yeah i did so May 15 18:32:33 so how it goes? May 15 18:32:42 so far.. May 15 18:33:02 verifying... May 15 18:34:03 you need to know the ip then May 15 18:34:09 yeah i know May 15 18:34:17 the slug is now booting... May 15 18:34:22 i hope it works May 15 18:34:23 my wrt gives random ip most of time May 15 18:34:45 yeah i configured a static ip in the web interface May 15 18:35:00 good then May 15 18:35:31 does the slug beep 3 times when the boot is finished like the debian installer? May 15 18:36:52 which bin did you flash? May 15 18:37:18 is it sda1-2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch1 ? May 15 18:37:20 the one from the howto you gave me May 15 18:37:22 sda1-2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch1 May 15 18:37:22 yeah May 15 18:37:25 yes May 15 18:37:36 ok i wait.... May 15 18:37:39 do you attached the disk? May 15 18:38:08 of course May 15 18:38:23 ok just wait few minutes May 15 18:40:21 the ready/status light always toggle from orange to green .....but nothing else happen til now May 15 18:41:17 try ssh it May 15 18:42:08 connection timed out May 15 18:42:37 the disk is spinning? May 15 18:42:50 not now May 15 18:42:56 only at the beginning May 15 18:43:08 maybe random ip? May 15 18:45:02 yeah may be May 15 18:45:12 i can ping the slug May 15 18:45:19 but no assec via ssh May 15 18:45:25 access May 15 18:46:01 so the eth0 is up May 15 18:46:19 need to wait a little longer maybe May 15 18:53:04 in the howto the key of the ssh host is showed ....do you need this key May 15 18:55:52 no need only for reference May 15 19:00:42 damn doesnt look good May 15 19:01:40 how long did your first boot with debian take? May 15 19:01:57 not too long May 15 19:02:18 it first fsck it and then i can ssh into it May 15 19:03:11 owh the partition did you prepare for unpack May 15 19:03:19 what is it? May 15 19:03:38 yeah i think so May 15 19:03:46 i created 3 partitions May 15 19:03:53 1 for root with 5 gb May 15 19:03:54 it must be the first partition because the kernel will read it as sda1 May 15 19:04:04 yeah it is May 15 19:04:21 so the root is at first partition? May 15 19:04:28 yes May 15 19:04:43 then the swap May 15 19:04:53 then partition for data May 15 19:05:07 shouldn't be the problem May 15 19:05:43 is it sda1 ? May 15 19:05:55 it must be sd*1 May 15 19:06:13 the slug will read as sda1 May 15 19:07:16 yes May 15 19:07:17 sdc1 May 15 19:07:31 it's right then May 15 19:07:50 i could ping the slug so i dont think the partitions are incorrect May 15 19:07:52 if the network is up means that the slug is working May 15 19:08:29 jep my thought May 15 19:08:32 what ssh says when you try to connect? May 15 19:09:17 one moment i flashed the deb-img again May 15 19:13:20 hmm May 15 19:13:28 now the ping also failed May 15 19:14:49 ahhhhhhhhhhh May 15 19:14:59 what the hell...:-) May 15 19:15:09 the ip change maybe May 15 19:15:44 there is no reason to fail because the package is complete and ready to run May 15 19:16:06 i dont see another ip in the overview of my dhcp server May 15 19:16:30 so the ip is .77 ? May 15 19:16:49 no May 15 19:17:20 i dont know what the ip is ....if it is not this who is displayed in dhcp May 15 19:26:06 i'm back May 15 19:26:56 i restart my dhcp server nothing happend May 15 19:27:13 so ping failed again May 15 19:42:05 bizkut, look this is my partition table http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=92889305fq4.jpg May 15 19:42:55 ok May 15 19:43:47 it's good May 15 19:43:50 oh May 15 19:44:11 go mount the disk on the desktop May 15 19:44:24 you need to edit the fstab May 15 19:45:01 edit it necessarily May 15 19:46:12 the slug must be hanging mounting false disk May 15 19:47:58 bizkut, http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=86382316oz0.jpg May 15 19:49:12 i think the most entries i dont need May 15 19:49:15 is it your desktop fstab? May 15 19:49:29 i mean the slug fstab May 15 19:49:46 should be /mnt/sdc1/etc/fstab May 15 19:50:08 goetzchr: Is this the situation where you need to use the disk ID in fstab instead of the device file? May 15 19:50:56 Kvaks, could be. but now he only use 1 disk on slug. so, it's not the problem May 15 19:51:19 it think it is the right /media/sdc1/etc/fstab May 15 19:51:29 the slug will threat the only disk as sda May 15 19:52:38 so i change the sdc to sda in the /mnt/sdc1/etc/fstab May 15 19:52:56 yes true May 15 19:53:18 the slug will see it as sda instead sdc on your pc May 15 19:54:04 can i see in the fstab which partition is first at boot? May 15 19:54:07 and uncomment any other disk. just make it mount the sda1 May 15 19:54:43 sdc1 on your pc = sda1 on slug May 15 19:54:50 sdc2 on your pc = sda2 on slug May 15 19:54:52 and so on May 15 19:55:08 okay clear May 15 19:55:19 so now in my fstab are only 3 entries May 15 19:55:35 /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ext3 .......... May 15 19:55:54 is it the slug's fstab? May 15 19:56:13 do you mount the disk on your pc? May 15 19:56:18 yes May 15 19:56:27 the pc has no disk May 15 19:56:36 because it it a livecd May 15 19:56:46 it should be /dev/sda1 / ext3 May 15 19:56:54 the root / May 15 19:57:10 oh May 15 19:58:41 should works then May 15 20:00:10 okay next round ^^ May 15 20:02:25 hmm looks good May 15 20:03:10 it works? May 15 20:03:21 ping yes , ssh no May 15 20:03:48 wait for it May 15 20:03:59 the network is up May 15 20:04:23 but the hd is still workin May 15 20:04:36 must be fsck May 15 20:04:54 because you mount it on desktop before May 15 20:05:06 hmm i hope so May 15 20:05:17 because the howto said so too May 15 20:10:44 disk is still busy May 15 20:10:56 so i make a short break ....hehe May 15 20:11:58 i gtg May 15 20:12:09 see ya later goetzchr May 15 20:37:40 Hello May 15 20:38:47 hi May 15 20:41:19 Im looking for jvm for asus wl 500g.. which one should i try? May 15 20:42:52 the usual suspects are jamvm, sablevm, and cvm (phoneme-advanced) May 15 20:43:28 which one should i start with? :) May 15 20:43:34 out of the three, i like cvm May 15 20:43:40 I actually saw them in the package list, but i didnt know which one to pick May 15 20:43:46 Okay May 15 20:47:16 Thanks eno. May 15 20:47:45 np May 15 22:02:00 do anyone know anything about controlling the diskED's on unung or debian ? May 15 22:02:31 "...the disk LED's on unslung..." even May 15 23:53:40 vk0: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/SetLedOptions ; http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/ProgrammingTheOpenSlugLEDs May 15 23:54:02 is that what you are looking for? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 16 02:59:57 2008