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May 17 05:43:37 <DrJ> can anyone here help me with bind
May 17 05:50:29 <mwester> DrJ:  Unless you are more specific with your question, it's really rather unlikely that anyone would know if they could help you or not!
May 17 05:51:02 <DrJ> I want bind to resolve all lookups to the slug of the IP
May 17 05:51:10 <DrJ> *ip of the slug
May 17 05:51:54 <DrJ> actually, I would more prefer to have any lookup that doesn't resolve to be resolved to the slugs ip
May 17 05:56:44 <mwester> Check out dnsmasq; it's actually usable by normal humans!
May 17 05:58:14 <DrJ> so you don't know how to do it with bind?
May 17 05:59:10 <DrJ> how would I do it with dnsmasq
May 17 06:04:52 <eno> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/DnsMasq
May 17 06:05:34 <eno> and dnsmasq is available on all slug firmwares
May 17 06:05:47 <eno> but simpler to use than bind
May 17 06:07:01 <DrJ> where does it say there though how to do what I want
May 17 06:07:33 <eno> i think it does what you want by default
May 17 06:08:05 <DrJ> really?
May 17 06:08:11 <DrJ> you sure ... that would be a weird default
May 17 06:09:26 <eno> you mean you have a weird requirement?
May 17 06:10:42 <DrJ> well, yea
May 17 06:10:46 <DrJ> I kind of think so
May 17 06:11:07 <DrJ> so which one do you think it does by default
May 17 06:11:11 <DrJ> resolve everything to the slug
May 17 06:11:17 <DrJ> or just things that don't resolve
May 17 06:11:24 <DrJ> the 2nd one is the one I really want
May 17 06:12:09 <eno> ah ok, honestly i don't know
May 17 06:15:08 <DrJ> :(
May 17 10:27:22 <gentlesea> yesterday i tried to install ssh and there was one package missing on the server. eno, you said it would be back. but as soon as i try to connect with telnet it won't work anymore. i guess the installation of openssh (which failed) disabled telnet. it only works now when i remove my alliance drive. but once this is removed i can't reinstall openssh. what can i do?
May 17 10:35:30 <feroz> hello
May 17 10:38:38 <goetzchr> hi
May 17 10:43:43 <feroz> Wondering about a few things..
May 17 10:44:38 <feroz> Im trying to dev with java on a asus wl500gx, i was told i could use phoneme. How can i tests those apps on my pc first before running them on the routeur?
May 17 10:47:25 <goetzchr> what is asus wl599gx??
May 17 10:48:22 <feroz> A router
May 17 10:49:40 <goetzchr> what is the connection to the nslu2 topic???
May 17 10:51:17 <feroz> I use Oleg firmware and packages coming with Optware.
May 17 10:52:14 <goetzchr> ah ok
May 17 12:10:51 <mwester> DrJ:  Did you read the documentation for dnsmasq?
May 17 18:03:35 <SyNko> hi there
May 17 18:04:38 <SyNko> a question:: Why is forbidden to download the entire web structure for browsing it locally?
May 17 18:05:12 <SyNko> ( im talkin about nslu2-linux of course )
May 17 19:01:32 <DrJ> what SyNko?
May 17 19:23:13 <SyNko> DrJ > When i try to wget the entire nslu2 website for offline browsing i got "forbidden" and a suggestion to not do so :-) my question is Why?
May 17 19:29:28 <DrJ> oh, idk
May 17 19:29:40 <DrJ> they probably don't want someone easily getting the site and putting their own up or something
May 17 19:34:03 <SyNko> k, but it still legal the offline browsing, yes?
May 17 19:36:34 <Sinclair73de> i think its a problem with the traffic. if everyone syncs the website or makes offline browsing the traffic is much higher than normal browsing
May 17 19:37:55 * eno nods
May 17 19:38:18 <SyNko> but i think in the long period is the same, cause i will consume only local "energy"
May 17 19:38:35 <SyNko> boeh
May 17 19:39:05 <eno> since nslu2-linux.org supports so many ipkg feeds, the traffic is already pretty high
May 17 19:39:52 <SyNko> k, understood
May 17 19:47:29 <gcarrier> hey
May 17 19:47:32 <gcarrier> LE/BE: difference?
May 17 19:49:03 <gcarrier> big endian/little endian
May 17 19:49:06 <gcarrier> i'm stupid
May 17 19:53:19 <SyNko> read the wiki
May 17 19:53:33 <SyNko> seaarch on endiannes
May 17 19:54:30 <SyNko> if you still not undestand return here :)
May 17 19:54:53 <SyNko> gcarrier ^^
May 17 19:56:07 <gcarrier> SyNko: why would i care?
May 17 19:56:19 <gcarrier> SyNko: it won't change much, afaik
May 17 20:27:32 <SyNko> gcarrier : might you like to know, a hobby
May 17 20:29:05 <gcarrier> no no no i do
May 17 20:29:11 <gcarrier> i'm going to port uArch to the nslu2
May 17 20:29:24 <gcarrier> it's more like, "as a user, that might not matter"
May 17 22:28:31 <gcarrier> ok
May 17 22:28:33 <gcarrier> just to be sure
May 17 22:28:39 <gcarrier> nslu supports both, right?
May 17 22:33:47 <ka6sox-work> gcarrier, both
May 17 22:36:20 <gcarrier> ka6sox-work: sooo... i can compile my system for little endian and not worry about anything?
May 17 22:36:28 <ka6sox-work> yes
May 17 22:36:38 <ka6sox-work> which distro?
May 17 22:36:49 <gcarrier> ka6sox-work: let's say mine.
May 17 22:37:31 <ka6sox-work> then as long as your toolchain can produce the right code then fine.
May 17 22:37:44 <gcarrier> what do you mean by right code?
May 17 22:37:47 <gcarrier> armv5l is ok?
May 17 22:41:24 <ka6sox-work> armv5te?
May 17 22:41:51 <ka6sox-work> emerge -uD world
May 17 22:44:32 <gcarrier> ka6sox-work: ???
May 17 22:44:48 <gcarrier> ka6sox-work: i don't really remember emerge options. didn't use emerge since ages.
May 17 22:45:01 <ka6sox-work> I'm updating infra....
May 17 22:45:12 <ka6sox-work> focus was in this window
May 17 22:47:18 <ka6sox-work> apt-get upgrade
May 17 22:50:10 <gcarrier> sooo... i installed angstrom for now.
May 17 22:50:22 <gcarrier> i can't ping the nslu anymore. does it need dhcp?
May 17 23:03:16 <mwester> gcarrier:  Angstrom?
May 17 23:03:55 <mwester> gcarrier:  of all the firmwares, that's probably the least generally usable firmware; it requires a serial port to do much of anything at the moment.
May 17 23:04:25 <mwester> gcarrier:  If you are experienced with Linux, you should select SlugOS or Debian.
May 17 23:04:59 <mwester> If not, Unslung is the Linksys firmware, with the ability to add your own software, and retains the GUI.
May 17 23:11:21 <gcarrier> thx
May 17 23:11:28 <gcarrier> i don't want a gui ;)
May 17 23:11:39 <gcarrier> the problem with debian is that it doesn't fit without a HD, right?
May 17 23:12:57 <mwester> gcarrier:  Debian does require some sort of external storage, memory stick or disk.  I'm not sure that's a problem, though.
May 17 23:13:10 <gcarrier> mwester: for me, it is.
May 17 23:13:16 <mwester> SlugOS will run from internal flash.  The problem is that the internal flash is very small, so there's not much you can do with it.
May 17 23:13:25 <gcarrier> mwester: this system will be my test machine
May 17 23:13:31 <mwester> To test what? 
May 17 23:13:37 <gcarrier> mwester: i'll boot from a USB stick most of the time
May 17 23:13:44 <gcarrier> mwester: a new distribution
May 17 23:13:47 <gcarrier> mwester: uArch
May 17 23:14:11 <mwester> Can you do that with < 1MByte of space available?
May 17 23:42:21 <gcarrier> mwester: ok, let me put this straight: i might have read a few docs.
May 17 23:42:55 <gcarrier> mwester: nslu2 boots off usb mass storage first if avaible right thanks to their redboot configuration right?
May 17 23:43:20 <gcarrier> mwester: because then, maybe i'll work with a usb stick and just use the internal flash for tests.
May 17 23:43:59 <gcarrier> or maybe i'll start with tests within chroots.
May 17 23:45:45 <gcarrier> we made a complete port of archlinux on uclibc with a full cross-compilation system for abs. it's a new step, i need doc and support, but i'm not stupid.
May 17 23:48:48 <mwester> gcarrier:  don't get all defensive, nobody is thinking anyone is stupid around here.   It is rather difficult to answer questions without some context, and even more difficult when there are many different answers to the same question.
May 17 23:49:12 <gcarrier> mwester: sorry for overreacting.
May 17 23:49:35 <mwester> No, redboot knows nothing of external storage; it cannot boot from anything but a very specific flash location.
May 17 23:49:52 <gcarrier> mwester: i need to find where i read that
May 17 23:50:53 <mwester> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/HomePage is a good place to find much info on internals.
May 17 23:51:18 <mwester> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/BootFlash is the flash layout.
May 17 23:52:07 <gcarrier> wow, only 1MB for the kernel
May 17 23:53:08 <gcarrier> so, noone ever wrote over netboot? :)
May 17 23:55:00 <mwester> Someone probably did something like that, but it's not any released firmware.  I use kexec from an nfs root to do development.
May 17 23:55:49 <mwester> (or tftp, or http, or ftp -- I just prefer nfs)
May 17 23:59:29 <gcarrier> openslug's kernel include kexec support?
May 17 23:59:59 <gcarrier> that's great doc.
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