**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 15 02:59:56 2008 Jun 15 05:47:50 hello someone speak spanish? Jun 15 05:52:24 could someone help me configure my nslug please Jun 15 05:54:55 or someone can give me any directions where to go Jun 15 05:55:10 or what can i do Jun 15 06:59:11 Question: mt-daapd 0.2.4, any chance that will get released for openslug? Jun 15 08:45:28 hi all Jun 15 08:45:51 if i want to build a module for optware, is it ok to follow the instructions of unslug? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 15 08:48:02 2008 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 15 08:53:16 2008 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 15 08:55:10 2008 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 15 09:03:21 2008 Jun 15 12:12:36 anyone here using openvpn on debian? Jun 15 20:21:14 hiya ppl i have a nslu2 thats been unsluged is there anyroom for app on the device now or d i need t unsling it Jun 15 20:21:44 You need to unsling it. Jun 15 20:23:58 thanks mwester ,now where thats usb stick Jun 15 20:24:42 Make sure you read the wiki notes, esp on the known problems before you select which of those USB sticks to use... Jun 15 20:25:08 ok will do mwester Jun 15 20:25:50 is there anything else i should know Jun 15 20:27:43 ;) Everything that's on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/HomePage, and especially the links to Which USB port to use, Known Problems, and if you are unclear on what a Linksys "native format" is, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/StorageBasics Jun 15 20:30:13 thanks mwester reading now before any mistakes Jun 15 20:43:25 hello all, any chance some know if and how Java runtime environment can be installed on with unslung? I would be interested becuse of this application: http://www.cidero.com/ Jun 15 20:44:07 I looked in the wiki, didnt say much about java Jun 15 20:48:12 I think folks have been working with a java runtime for SlugOS, but I'm not aware of anything for Unslung. Jun 15 20:48:31 prolly java would be easier to set up with Debian Jun 15 20:48:34 ok thanks mwester Jun 15 20:49:02 Robnc I have no luck with debian on my slug.... Jun 15 20:49:30 maybe should try one time again then Jun 15 20:49:38 hm Jun 15 20:49:40 Hate to say it, but if you're familiar with linux distributions, Debian is the easiest to set up. But it is a space hog and is better to use with ext HDDs versus flash Jun 15 20:50:00 min install space is like 1GB or so I think. Jun 15 20:50:01 yes I know thats why I hesitate Jun 15 20:50:37 It's really set up for machines with much more memory. It'll work but it won't be as lean as slugos Jun 15 20:50:39 i lke it quiet Jun 15 20:50:55 some 2.5" HDDs are pretty quiet Jun 15 20:51:35 but don't plan on it ever spinning down :-) Jun 15 20:51:52 yes dont have any 2.5. 3.5 only and with in a enclosre whicj isnt the best.. Jun 15 20:52:06 *which Jun 15 20:52:30 Might be able to use one of the 1" CF drives, but not sure if it's suited for this continual use. Jun 15 20:53:22 then usb(2.0)-to-CF adapter Jun 15 20:54:24 ok I shall look up what cost it will be. I can use a cf card for other things if it dont works. Jun 15 20:55:00 cidero have som nice features=) Jun 15 20:59:48 RobNC somthing like this (adapter)?http://insidecomputer.stores.yahoo.net/usbcoflcotyi.html Jun 15 21:01:13 Yes but be sure to get USB 2.0 device. That's USB 1.1, which means 11Mbps - you'll see a performance difference between USB1 and USB2 devices, especially if your OS, swap, etc. is via slow USB1. Jun 15 21:02:08 janne-5011 I'd just look on http://slickdeals.net for "CF USB card reader" or equivalent Jun 15 21:09:06 mwester: Hi, just saw linphone dropped to the broken packages Jun 15 21:09:44 now there is yeaphone still in the regular list which needs linphone Jun 15 21:09:50 actually liblinphone Jun 15 21:10:18 hi all Jun 15 21:10:36 how do i build a kernel module in optware? Jun 15 21:10:58 treitmayr: Ok. I didn't look at the dependencies. I guess I'm hoping that somebody who knows about that can fix linphone so we can put it back... Jun 15 21:11:09 on the other hand I was able to successfully compile linphone with a patch for linphone and one for speex Jun 15 21:12:06 zouzou that's a #nslu2-linux topic (but sorry I can't help for optware) Jun 15 21:12:16 yep, however rod had some problem with the linphone patch - I still don't know why... Jun 15 21:12:52 mwester: there is already a bug for linphone: http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4308 Jun 15 21:13:18 thanx RobNC Jun 15 21:13:35 np zouzou Jun 15 21:14:03 Ok. Are you able to test and assist in getting this working, if I (or Rod) spend more time on this? If so, I'll be happy to bump it to the top of my list to look at in more detail. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 15 21:17:26 2008 Jun 15 21:18:36 * mwester attempts "bitbake linphone" and goes off to find dinner... Jun 15 21:20:37 mwester: it is neccessary to apply the patches attached to the bugs 4307 and 4308 Jun 15 21:24:40 RobNC I found it, deal done, card reader and cf card on its way=). Jun 15 21:40:48 janne-5011 good deal.. good luck! Jun 15 21:41:23 anyone know if samba, ntp, etc are supposed to be in the 4.10 (unstable) slugosbe repository? Jun 15 21:46:02 seems like it's necessary to modify /etc/opkg/*.conf files Jun 15 21:47:51 weird, this was working about a week ago with 4.10, did something change with repository or openslug feed? Jun 15 21:58:12 anyone know if it's safe to put the beta repositories below the alpha for SlugOS-BE-4.10 (in conf files) Jun 15 21:59:46 weird, bug with nslu2-linux wiki, can't search with a period in the text, with IE7 Jun 15 22:00:41 (doesn't happen with mozilla-variants) Jun 15 22:02:06 janne-5011 I saw this wiki (in case you didn't), so you could try slugos versus debian: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OpenSlugJavaInstallWorkaround Jun 15 22:08:22 RobNC thansk..reading the page.. Jun 15 22:13:02 anyone know how ipkg takes feeds into account for priority? I.e., package available in beta, and alpha, with same name. Jun 15 22:16:44 hm all thoose installed on unslung. shouldnt it work? Jun 15 22:27:30 (I'm using slugos right now) Jun 15 22:27:31 mwester: Sorry, it's past midnight here and I have to get some sleep. If you did apply the patches mentioned before, could you just comment your results at OE bug 4308? Thanks... Jun 15 22:28:17 janne-5011 are you referring to java query? Jun 15 22:28:50 anyone know if slugos supports XFS? Jun 15 22:30:23 * RobNC confirms - looks like it's built into kernel Jun 15 22:32:25 RobNC - yes Jun 15 22:51:24 anyone know how to determine UUID? The "tree" command isn't available via slugos. Jun 15 22:53:56 yes, I know I could remove the devices and plug them into a real device but I'd hope that there's a way to do this natively. Jun 15 22:54:20 * RobNC means "/s/real device/real linux server/" Jun 15 22:59:56 can you explain RobNC isnt a slug a real linux server? ;) Jun 15 23:01:15 RobNC: will "find dir -ls" do? Jun 15 23:01:30 The "tree" command is available in optware Jun 15 23:04:06 janne-5011 I should say it's "embedded" so it's not like a full-blown distribution server but it is running linux so I should clarify :-) Jun 15 23:04:21 eno: will try that command - hmm... Jun 15 23:04:55 eno: I think latest package setup for slugos is hosed (I installed fresh), perhaps that's another symptom. Jun 15 23:06:36 essentially, tree is not needed, but you have to have a "/dev/disk/by-uuid" directory to determine UUID Jun 15 23:06:53 no "/dev/disk" directory in slugosbe Jun 15 23:07:37 did "cd /dev; find . -iname '*uuid*'" and it found nothing Jun 15 23:08:09 Thanks for your suggestions though... Jun 15 23:08:39 np, i'm still on 4.8beata Jun 15 23:27:15 eno: ah ok I needed a custom build b/c ObeseSlug Jun 15 23:28:50 ObeseSlug, cool Jun 15 23:29:38 hmm, looks like there's something called "e2fsprogs-uuidgen" but I don't think that does what I was hoping Jun 16 00:01:36 hello Jun 16 00:02:16 i recently moved causing me to change my network configuration Jun 16 00:02:32 as a result, i can no longer find the ip address of my nslu2 Jun 16 00:02:40 anyone know how i can figure that out? Jun 16 00:03:52 need some more info. 1) distribution, 2) previous network config Jun 16 00:04:58 i'm using unslung 6.x Jun 16 00:05:14 using a linksys router making everything 192.168.1.x previously Jun 16 00:05:25 now 192.168.2.x b/c i had to change to dsl Jun 16 00:06:00 Thanks, do you have a windows machine? I think the tool "sercom" can determine your NSLU2 Jun 16 00:06:56 currently i'm on ubuntu - i tried upslug2 Jun 16 00:07:04 i haven't tried sercom in windows yet Jun 16 00:07:45 ok, with upslug2 it needs to be put into upgrade mode right? Jun 16 00:08:00 right Jun 16 00:08:12 maybe you can put your device into upgrade mode, verify only. Then once you know MAC address Jun 16 00:08:31 just reboot and use static DHCP server. Then there's no doubt, if you used DHCP Jun 16 00:09:17 unslug is very buggy - the DHCP especially. Doesn't work right with most DHCP servers. Jun 16 00:09:29 I mean only the DHCP part of unslug Jun 16 00:10:05 i'm sorry - i don't follow that - i have the MAC address, but how do i use a static DHCP server? Jun 16 00:11:11 well first, did you set up unslug to use DHCP? Jun 16 00:11:48 i did Jun 16 00:12:09 Okay. Now hopefully you won't have one of those linksys routers, or do you? Jun 16 00:12:21 yes i do Jun 16 00:13:21 ok, I know for a fact that linksys default firmware is very buggy with unslug, unfortunately. It originally drove me to use an alternative firmware (i.e., openwrt, DD-wrt, HyperWRT, tomato, etc.) which I don't believe have the DHCP issue. Jun 16 00:13:42 Problem with the default linksys firmware is no way to do static DHCP, and no way (that I remeber) to see what devices have what IP address. Jun 16 00:14:24 yes exactly Jun 16 00:14:37 so you can either set up DHCP on a linux machine (don't know how to do that with ubuntu but redhat variants I do), or use a windows client and then use a cross-over cable (or network switch) Jun 16 00:15:49 If it's possible to use a laptop or desktop, disconnect the PC from the network, use a cross-over cable (if your PC isn't MDI-X capable - most GigE ports are). Then run the tool in windows, there's a way to set it up for DHCP server. Jun 16 00:16:55 okay i'll try that Jun 16 00:17:50 thanks for the info Jun 16 00:17:58 go to http://tftpd32.jounin.net and download the client. It can serve as DHCP server. So after download/install/configure/restart program, disconnect your laptop/desktop from network, then with crossover cable (or only two devices connected to a switch), you should be able to determine the IP address of NSLU2 now. Jun 16 00:18:22 then you can re-configure for static if that's what you want. Static is more stable, unfortunately, for your distribution. Jun 16 00:18:22 excellent Jun 16 00:19:05 ok Jun 16 00:19:17 ok, hope that works! Jun 16 00:19:40 i'll give it a try - thanks so much for the help Jun 16 00:20:04 no problem, good luck! Let us know if it doesn't **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 16 01:34:15 2008 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 16 01:34:44 2008 Jun 16 02:36:53 wondering if anyone else has had problems with the npe ethernet driver and 2.4 Intel firmware truncating vlan tagged packets Jun 16 02:37:45 both tcpdump and udhcpc are seeing inbound traffic that's tagged for a vlan (3) truncated to around 60 bytes Jun 16 02:38:40 tcdump on the base interface (eth0) shows the clipped traffic too Jun 16 02:40:34 I have this problem with OpenWRT Kamikaze 7.09 stock binary and a build I've done from svn Jun 16 02:40:36 EricV: Nobody has ever mentioned such a thing, but then I'm not sure how many have ever tried vlan support. What firmware are you running on the NSLU2? Jun 16 02:40:39 Ah. Jun 16 02:41:09 What kernel? Jun 16 02:41:10 svn r11464 to be extact (from sometime yesterday) Jun 16 02:41:14 looking... Jun 16 02:41:56 2.6.25.6 Jun 16 02:42:13 That's certainly the current driver, then. Jun 16 02:42:17 I tried the header rewriting stuff Jun 16 02:42:22 (turning it off) Jun 16 02:42:37 but that just made tcpdump not see any traffic, rather than truncated traffic Jun 16 02:43:32 I've no experience with vlan stuff, not even sure what equipment one might need by way of switches/routers for it. Jun 16 02:43:33 I was hoping it was a tcpdump issue, but then when I couldn't make udhcpc work I started sticking printf's in (busybox/udchcpc) Jun 16 02:44:04 and found it was getting short packets (even though my switch's span facility is showing full sized responses) Jun 16 02:44:17 I can't even establish a TCP connection, the SYN packet gets truncated Jun 16 02:44:26 hm Jun 16 02:44:42 I suspected not many folks use vlan tagging Jun 16 02:45:21 I use linux vlan tagging support in my companies product w/o issue on server class h/w, but that's a much older kernel (2.6.18 series) Jun 16 02:45:30 and vastly different driver architecture Jun 16 02:46:03 thanks neway Jun 16 02:46:15 was hoping this was some well known firmware version skew or something Jun 16 02:46:19 or pilot error Jun 16 02:46:36 I can reproduce the truncation with Jun 16 02:46:37 You might try pinging the network driver's author (name sb in the module). Jun 16 02:46:46 ah, thank you Jun 16 02:46:57 good idea Jun 16 02:47:00 ( I can't possibly type it correctly, or I'd offer the name) Jun 16 02:47:04 :D Jun 16 02:47:05 :) Jun 16 02:47:18 it seems reproducible with the simplest of configurations Jun 16 02:47:27 Is there some way to test/use vlan support without any other gear? Jun 16 02:47:32 yep Jun 16 02:47:38 its easy: Jun 16 02:47:46 on a normal unmanaged switch or even a hub Jun 16 02:47:53 have 2 linux boxes (one the slug) Jun 16 02:47:58 on both do something like: Jun 16 02:48:02 vconfig eth0 add 3 Jun 16 02:48:12 ifconfig eth0.3 1.1.1.1/24 up Jun 16 02:48:21 (different address obviously on each one) Jun 16 02:48:33 then try to telnet/ping/whatever the alternate address Jun 16 02:48:33 -sh: vconfig: not found Jun 16 02:48:35 :) Jun 16 02:48:45 it has to be included in busybox Jun 16 02:49:02 and the kernel has to have the 8021q module available (or built in) Jun 16 02:49:12 Ok, so not something that can be easily tested on another NSLU2 firmware distro. Jun 16 02:49:23 it was built into the binary Kamikaze Jun 16 02:49:33 w/o having to do anything funny Jun 16 02:49:54 what's another good distro to try that's likely to have full networking support Jun 16 02:49:55 ? Jun 16 02:50:06 I was about to try that next to see if it was an openwrt issue Jun 16 02:50:40 OpenWRT is distinquished by the small footprint and the most network functionality... the others will need to have the "right stuff" added in. Hopefully by package installation, but perhaps by custom builds. Jun 16 02:51:10 k, I guess I'll try the 'debian' distro Jun 16 02:51:18 I have a 4G flash attached, hopefully that's enough Jun 16 02:51:43 It would be good if this was at least documented, and put to a larger audience. If you can write up the observations, and the short test that you put above, and send an email to the nslu2-linux list, that would get it in front of the various developers. Jun 16 02:52:39 sure, happy to -- I just didn't even know where to start community wise Jun 16 02:52:47 found this IRC channel on the wiki Jun 16 02:53:49 half the time writing up a bug makes me realize I did something stupid Jun 16 02:53:57 OpenWRT and Debian are not usually represented on this IRC channel; the key Debian folks should be on the mailing list, and we can forward to the OpenWRT folks. The ixp4xx kernel for all the platforms is definitely on that mailing list. Jun 16 02:55:02 just to be sure Jun 16 02:55:09 you're talking about the yahoo group mailing Jun 16 02:55:10 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/ Jun 16 02:55:11 ? Jun 16 02:55:28 Out of curiosity -- I have a network here with perhaps 15 - 20 devices here; is there any reason such a network would use vlans? Jun 16 02:55:33 (yes, that's the mailing list) Jun 16 02:55:41 gr8... thx Jun 16 02:55:43 the reason I'm using vlans Jun 16 02:56:02 is I'm trying to replace my 'big' (x86) firewall with a slug Jun 16 02:56:11 I need 3 'phsyical' interfaces Jun 16 02:56:13 DSL, Cable, and inside Jun 16 02:56:19 there's only 1 ethernet on the slug Jun 16 02:56:22 (and on my x86 box) Jun 16 02:56:32 and I have several switches that support vlan tagging Jun 16 02:56:43 so basically I'm using this to make 3 interfaces out of 1 Jun 16 02:57:04 (I've been doing this for several years on my x86 router/firewall as well, a crusty 1U that can't take a 2nd/3rd ethernet card) Jun 16 02:58:15 Ah, ok. The reason I'm asking is to see if we should be turning on additonal stuff (like vconfig) for the next releases... if this is just a driver bug that can be fixed, this might be a reasonable feature to have in the SlugOS firmware. Jun 16 02:59:04 using a $70 8 port dell managed gig switch Jun 16 02:59:13 you can get the equivalent of 7 ethernet cards Jun 16 02:59:20 off anything iwth 1 port Jun 16 02:59:27 that's probably the biggest win for this embedded stuff Jun 16 02:59:46 tagging is also useful in large environments when you want to put multiple broadcast domains on a very fast trunk Jun 16 02:59:54 but that's likely not of interest to this group **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 16 02:59:57 2008