**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 23 02:59:57 2008 Oct 23 03:49:12 okay, I need help with ipkg (SlugOS/BE) Oct 23 03:49:18 whenever I try to use ipkg Oct 23 03:49:20 it just says Oct 23 03:49:21 Killed Oct 23 03:49:28 I can't install anything :( Oct 23 03:52:19 disk space? out of memory? did you ipkg upgrade your libc? Oct 23 03:52:33 disk space good, memory good Oct 23 03:52:46 no clue on the libc thing Oct 23 03:52:48 You're sure about memory? Oct 23 03:52:54 That's the most common problem. Oct 23 03:52:56 http://ww2.jwjkp.com/phpsysinfo Oct 23 03:53:04 What's that? Oct 23 03:53:13 that's my system info Oct 23 03:53:19 shows my memory and disk space is good Oct 23 03:53:38 Well, the url looks like you're running a web server and php -- memory is probably pretty tight. Oct 23 03:53:48 I'd reboot the thing, and try again Oct 23 03:54:20 this has been an issue for a month now Oct 23 03:54:26 has been rebooted probably 10 times Oct 23 03:54:54 memory is at 95% (that is what it has been at typically since I installed slugos over a year ago) Oct 23 03:55:05 swap is at 1% Oct 23 03:55:11 No, that's not an interesting number. Oct 23 03:55:51 ? Oct 23 03:56:05 The system needs real memory to put the image in, that's not from swap -- and for some reason, the kernel OOM (out of memory) killer is over-agressive. Oct 23 03:56:32 it has run fine up to about a month ago Oct 23 03:56:38 then I started having this issue Oct 23 03:56:42 Ok, so what changed about then? Oct 23 03:56:49 afaik Oct 23 03:56:50 nothing Oct 23 03:57:19 Well, obviously something did... we just don't know what or how yet. Oct 23 03:57:25 yep Oct 23 03:57:31 yea, cause really Oct 23 03:57:39 I have no idea when it actually started Oct 23 03:57:43 So what ipkg command work? Oct 23 03:57:44 I just noticed it about a month ago Oct 23 03:58:13 What do the logs say? (dmesg and logread?) Oct 23 03:58:22 ipkg update works Oct 23 03:58:40 Ok, so what *doesn't* work then. Oct 23 03:58:46 ipkg install Oct 23 03:58:50 Of what? Oct 23 03:58:55 anything Oct 23 03:59:22 Ok. divide and conquer. Oct 23 03:59:31 ipkg install flubberjubber Oct 23 03:59:43 needs to locate fluggerjubber (choose anything you like for that) Oct 23 04:00:02 What messages do you get -- does it tell you it's downloading, or does it not get that far? Oct 23 04:00:09 Manuall download an ipk. Oct 23 04:00:20 do "ipkg install ./whatver.ipk" Oct 23 04:00:26 Does it install? Fail? message? Oct 23 04:08:13 Any luck? Oct 23 04:12:32 yea Oct 23 04:12:39 for some reason Oct 23 04:12:41 its working now Oct 23 04:12:45 this is just odd Oct 23 04:12:51 hasn't worked in a month Oct 23 04:15:24 Magic, I guess. :( That's not good, because it usually means it'll be back, probably when you most need to install or update something. Oct 23 04:15:38 yea Oct 23 04:15:40 odd thing is Oct 23 04:15:44 it didn't work last night Oct 23 04:15:52 nothing has changed, I still even have the same putty window open Oct 23 04:15:54 and now Oct 23 04:15:56 its working Oct 23 04:15:59 heh Oct 23 04:16:09 Which SlugOS version? Oct 23 04:16:33 didn't look at my phpsysinfo link? Oct 23 04:16:37 its all on that page Oct 23 04:16:55 well, says the kernel Oct 23 04:17:00 which is 2.6.21.7 Oct 23 04:17:09 umm Oct 23 04:17:28 any quick way to echo out the version? Oct 23 04:17:29 No - my XChat client is broken and it stops letting me cut and paste, and clicking on URLs stops working too. :( Oct 23 04:17:49 That would probably be 4.8 or 4.10... Oct 23 04:17:53 its the latest Oct 23 04:17:55 on the site Oct 23 04:18:06 cat /etc/issue Oct 23 04:18:08 unless there has been a new one in like the last couple months Oct 23 04:18:09 that'll do it. Oct 23 04:18:20 [root@CUBS opt]$ cat /etc/issue Oct 23 04:18:20 OpenEmbedded Linux \n \l Oct 23 04:18:20 SlugOS 4.8-beta \n \l Oct 23 04:18:20 [root@CUBS opt]$ Oct 23 04:18:34 No, nothing new in the past months. The next release will be a rather major one, so it's taking a while. Oct 23 04:18:43 yea Oct 23 04:18:49 I got your email a while back Oct 23 04:18:54 about working on 5.0 or whatnot Oct 23 04:18:54 Ok. Oct 23 04:19:05 Yep. So far so good. Oct 23 04:19:18 any idea as to when it will be out? Oct 23 04:19:22 months? years? Oct 23 04:19:45 Hopefully a few months. Oct 23 04:20:00 A lot will depend on the toolchain and kernel switch. Oct 23 04:20:16 (all the other stuff is just tweaking at this point, fun but not essential). Oct 23 04:20:59 I've been procrastinating until the OE repo switched from monotone to git -- but now that's done I have no more excuses. Oct 23 04:21:10 :) Oct 23 04:21:13 So the kernel is next, then toolchain to switch to EABI. Oct 23 04:21:14 well, looking forward to it Oct 23 04:21:18 I will most likely upgrade Oct 23 04:21:20 Then alpha test. Oct 23 04:21:31 And when the testers say "ok", we do an initial release. Oct 23 04:23:02 will you be able to just reflash with the new one and that be it? Oct 23 04:23:54 It'll be a full re-install. Oct 23 04:24:36 Not only that, but there is a chance that you won't even be able to use the same ipkg's (I understand that it may be as much as a 10% performance penalty to have backwards compat). Oct 23 04:25:10 So I'd like to have the maximum performance boost we can get, but it might mean completely new optware feeds. Oct 23 04:29:00 sounds like that would be a lot of work Oct 23 09:20:20 what is openslug password for ssh? Oct 23 09:37:41 :\ Oct 23 09:37:46 slima you are ? Oct 23 10:15:29 m8: same as for regular login Oct 23 10:39:21 joat openslug has web interface ? Oct 23 12:09:31 humm joat :| Oct 23 18:10:37 huttah Oct 23 18:11:25 im doing a fresh debian install on an nslu2, anyone now if the (Unreleased Beta) firmwares are best avoided? Oct 23 18:11:29 *know Oct 23 18:11:40 lo Reedy Oct 23 18:12:05 'lo Oct 23 18:12:14 i ended up buying a new slug :/ Oct 23 18:12:18 :( Oct 23 18:12:20 i think that last one was nadged Oct 23 18:12:27 had endless attempts at flashing it Oct 23 18:12:36 but it wouldnt even go back to linksys fw in the end Oct 23 18:13:04 do you use a Debian/NSLU2 firmware ? Oct 23 18:13:57 yeah Oct 23 18:14:06 4 or 5? Oct 23 18:14:11 4 as thats stable Oct 23 18:14:17 i probably wouldnt use the beta firmwares Oct 23 18:14:30 I'd stick 4 on then change the package repo's and upgrade/dist-upgrade Oct 23 18:14:48 sweet. Oct 23 18:14:59 i have everything crossed this is going to go ok Oct 23 18:16:21 when you installed in the past, did you ever have to mess with tweaking swap at the point the installation was happening? as described in here > http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/DebianInstallerDisconnectsSSH Oct 23 18:16:22 do you need it on testing/unstable Oct 23 18:16:28 nope Oct 23 18:16:35 i always used < 10gb drives Oct 23 18:16:42 no. i want it as smooth as poss Oct 23 18:16:59 i have a 4gb stick to put the OS onto Oct 23 18:17:02 yeah Oct 23 18:17:06 pretty much what i have Oct 23 18:17:11 then a 500GB external drive Oct 23 18:17:22 yeah, ive 2 1tb's Oct 23 18:17:30 did you ever use a hub? Oct 23 18:17:44 yup Oct 23 18:17:53 did you bring that into play after youd installed? Oct 23 18:19:43 yeah Oct 23 18:19:47 well Oct 23 18:19:50 originally yes Oct 23 18:19:58 but when i reinstalled, i think i just left it unplugged Oct 23 18:20:21 i think i'll go for just an install straight into the stick plugged straight in Oct 23 18:20:37 i set static ip, and set all the dns/ip settings Oct 23 18:20:44 aye Oct 23 18:20:44 think thats everything i need to get going Oct 23 18:20:52 and if you get it to mount by label/UUID or something Oct 23 18:20:59 you can move the stick about fine then Oct 23 18:21:08 mm, im going to go for that, because i think it was an issue in the past for me Oct 23 18:21:20 re format of stick Oct 23 18:21:30 does the installer format it? Oct 23 18:21:38 if you want it to Oct 23 18:21:38 or does it need to have been pre-done? Oct 23 18:21:48 it'll partition and format if necessary/you tell it to Oct 23 18:21:55 ok Oct 23 18:21:58 right Oct 23 18:22:00 i'll get it on Oct 23 18:22:35 hmm Oct 23 18:22:59 and i should fire the slug up with my stick in Oct 23 18:23:06 then uploaded the flash bin Oct 23 18:23:12 then it reboots and does its stuff Oct 23 18:23:18 makes no real difference Oct 23 18:23:35 right Oct 23 18:23:50 you can plug it in when the installer has loaded IIRC Oct 23 18:24:04 k, cos you shell back in as installer@ Oct 23 18:24:13 when that first bits done Oct 23 18:25:09 here goes Oct 23 18:55:34 mother of perl, got the installer screen up. here goes Oct 23 19:02:11 Reedy: did you do manual or guided partitioning? Oct 23 19:02:26 guided IIRC gives you reccommended sizes Oct 23 19:02:32 great Oct 23 19:13:29 hmm, stuck for a while on 'partion formatting 33%' Oct 23 19:13:46 Reedy: remember if it took long to partition yours? Oct 23 19:13:53 nope Oct 23 19:13:54 didnt Oct 23 19:14:04 hmmxr Oct 23 19:14:41 what would you recommend doing, if the installer seems hung then? Oct 23 19:16:20 wonder if its a problem with the stick Oct 23 19:16:33 although, i formatted it in puppy with no errors Oct 23 19:17:33 lulz, its on the troubleshooting wiki Oct 23 21:00:27 Hi anyone use samba whit debian on nslu2? Oct 23 21:00:44 yes Oct 23 21:00:46 hi Oct 23 21:01:05 but i have a really simple setup Oct 23 21:01:15 i have a simple setup too Oct 23 21:01:20 but! in windows i have a problem Oct 23 21:01:26 when i connect network drive Oct 23 21:01:39 windows doesn't recognize entire disk capacity but only 2,7gb Oct 23 21:01:41 :( Oct 23 21:01:49 hm no idea, sorry Oct 23 21:01:59 i normally just type \\nslu2 :D Oct 23 21:01:59 at you recognize all space ? Oct 23 21:02:12 wierd Oct 23 21:02:16 bb? Oct 23 21:02:33 ive had debian/samba setup before without this problem Oct 23 21:03:28 m8: does it tell you the wrong size without using "connect network drive"? Oct 23 21:03:29 and your sure you have more space on the dir that smb is sharing? Oct 23 21:03:41 yes Oct 23 21:03:46 the disk is empty Oct 23 21:03:54 Nightwolf yes Oct 23 21:05:34 m8: no idea, simply use putty to get the free space ^^ Oct 23 21:05:57 the problem is Oct 23 21:06:07 after i write over 2.7gb Oct 23 21:06:13 windows says me space full :( Oct 23 21:06:16 errors! Oct 23 21:07:16 tbh i probly never write such sized files in one go :/ Oct 23 21:07:26 it was always a bit flaky :) Oct 23 21:07:39 try ftp or alternative? Oct 23 21:07:48 mmm :| Oct 23 21:07:52 ftp drive exist ? Oct 23 21:07:52 mine shows my 500gb as 458gb fine Oct 23 21:07:56 sftp Oct 23 21:08:02 WinSCP on windows Oct 23 21:08:19 installer nearly finished Reedy Oct 23 21:08:32 needed to tweak the partitioning to give 512 swap, but apart fromthat gone ok Oct 23 21:08:39 Reedy: you use sftp in your lan? isn't that a bit slow? Oct 23 21:08:52 no, i dont internally Oct 23 21:08:57 but i do to a student run uni cluster Oct 23 21:09:06 ok Oct 23 21:09:09 somtimes to dreamhost, but its not slow on my nslu2 Oct 23 21:12:25 this problem is only on a 1TB HD Oct 23 21:18:50 there is problem whit 1tb partitions ? Oct 23 21:18:52 i have problems!!! Oct 23 21:20:30 Reedy: have you thought about trying sshfs for secure comms to the cluster? Oct 23 21:21:44 hmm? Oct 23 21:21:55 i've only just really taken over as one of the administrators Oct 23 21:22:33 for formatting i must use mkfs.ext /dev/sdb1 ??? Oct 23 21:22:40 ext3 Oct 23 21:22:54 yes Oct 23 21:22:55 sorry Oct 23 21:22:58 *ext3 ? Oct 23 21:23:11 Something that would be good is a way to securely and easily put samba out for access on the university machines for storage space. As we only get 200mb of space :( Oct 23 21:23:22 http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=linux+format+a+partition&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a Oct 23 21:24:29 thanks for the tips tonight Reedy, installer over. debian installed. Oct 23 21:25:12 bb_: gz Oct 23 21:25:35 anyone need an old slug for parts? Oct 23 21:26:10 i suspect there'll be someone who'll buy it Oct 23 21:26:17 post it on the yahoo mailing list Oct 23 21:26:25 bb_: donate it to nslu2-linux.org Oct 23 21:26:35 for sure, got a mail address? Oct 23 21:27:00 pick a developer? :P Oct 23 21:27:10 anyone here who extended the ram? i'm thinking about doing this... Oct 23 21:28:05 mwester, have you done much with sshfs? Oct 23 21:31:38 Reedy: if you need something like sshfs for windows there is sftpdrive, i'm using this for month and i'm absolutely happy with it... except that it costs 40$... Oct 23 21:31:52 months ;-) Oct 23 21:33:15 yeah, WP lists it Oct 23 21:33:32 shame there isnt something free Oct 23 21:34:37 bb_: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/WhoIsWho Oct 23 21:36:43 postal address? Oct 23 21:37:30 bb_, maybe email someone whoes local if you can find out and ask Oct 23 21:47:17 Reedy: yknow the mount by label, did you 'Change the kernel command line to use a label for the root disk'? Oct 23 21:47:34 i changed /etc/fstab Oct 23 21:47:40 but did it by UUID Oct 23 21:48:04 and nothing else? i remember now that was always what confused me about that page> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/MountDisksByLabel Oct 23 21:48:27 it started out dead easy, then descended into 'changing kernel command line' Oct 23 21:48:45 oh Oct 23 21:48:47 i see that now Oct 23 21:49:05 never noticed it before, lol Oct 23 21:49:14 heh, so you never did that bit Oct 23 21:49:34 nope Oct 23 21:49:41 might explain the odd problem :P Oct 23 21:49:44 lulz Oct 23 21:50:07 doesnt explain mine randomly becoming unresponsive Oct 23 21:50:13 its better since i replaced the dying OS drive Oct 23 21:50:23 so you think yours is basically ignoring the uuid for the bootup Oct 23 21:50:48 i'd suspect so when it wouldnt reboot with all drives attached Oct 23 21:51:01 as it says, it doesnt use fstab to get the root partition Oct 23 21:51:05 as it doesnt exist at that point Oct 23 21:51:35 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/ChangeKernelCommandLine < that one looked a bit too techy for me Oct 23 21:51:44 could see how you go Oct 23 21:51:52 if you start having problems do it, if not, dont ;) Oct 23 21:52:07 you shouldnt need it generally Oct 23 21:52:20 yeah guess i'll do that Oct 23 21:52:23 i.e. later Oct 23 21:53:30 i notice now my fstab on this new machine looks a lot more in it than the old one > http://pastebin.com/d5a3d9765 Oct 23 21:53:59 i guess i'll rtfm a bit Oct 23 21:54:09 been so long since ive messed with thsi Oct 23 21:55:13 http://pastebin.com/d63a6678a Oct 23 21:55:17 you can cahnge it to that no problem Oct 23 21:55:51 right, those things other lines not relelven Oct 23 21:55:52 t Oct 23 21:55:59 and that swap on sda5 Oct 23 21:56:07 this is a partitioin that the installer created? Oct 23 21:56:52 ie the 2 later lines mounting to /media can be removd Oct 23 21:57:00 yes i saw that Oct 23 21:57:04 sda5 Oct 23 21:57:20 is that the partition i created of 512 mb on the stick suring install? Oct 23 21:57:35 probably Oct 23 21:57:36 fdisk -l Oct 23 21:57:51 yeah, sda5 should be swap Oct 23 21:57:57 aah yeah Oct 23 21:58:48 http://pastebin.com/d12aa1769 Oct 23 21:58:50 fstab -l Oct 23 21:59:09 im going to bin the swap on that stick, and shove it on another stick i haave Oct 23 21:59:22 i did that before :) Oct 23 21:59:53 oh, during install?# Oct 23 22:00:14 for some reason, i thought it would wig out with the hub/two sticks in during setup :/ Oct 23 22:00:16 ah, after Oct 23 22:00:18 i mean before Oct 23 22:00:21 as in i've done it Oct 23 22:00:39 ah yeah Oct 23 22:02:05 if i bin the swap on the primary stick Oct 23 22:02:13 can i extend the partition with the OS on? Oct 23 22:02:22 or will it trash data? Oct 23 22:04:09 bb_, probably safer to do it in another machine, but it should work whilst running Oct 23 22:04:46 mm i'll just leave it :) Oct 23 22:05:08 with the new stick, to be used for swap, just running mkswap is enough, and adding to fstab? Oct 23 22:05:23 when i run fdisk on it , says 'not a valid partition table# Oct 23 22:06:04 on what? Oct 23 22:06:16 for the former, yes Oct 23 22:52:26 Hmm Oct 23 22:52:56 I made a few mods to fstab, rebooted. and now it doesnt seem to boot correctly Oct 23 22:53:18 ive removed all other sticks/disks Oct 23 22:53:38 just got the one original 4gb stick with the OS on in slot 2 Oct 23 22:53:56 it flashes a few times every 5 seconds Oct 23 22:54:06 but i never get a response back from pinging the slu2 Oct 23 22:54:07 g Oct 23 22:54:28 any suggestions where i go from here? Oct 23 22:56:48 i dont get anything written in \var\log since it shutdown Oct 23 23:39:02 it was a bad fstab **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 24 02:59:57 2008