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Nov 08 03:07:04 <arthur92710> ok when if do e2fsck it says  running e2fsck might cause damage, yes to continue no to abort, so If I say no it does not do anything, what now? 
Nov 08 03:09:47 <DogBoy> lol
Nov 08 03:12:09 <arthur92710> well i said yes
Nov 08 03:12:47 <arthur92710> then no to every thing else, 2 question so far, something about to clear an inode
Nov 08 03:14:47 <arthur92710> it did show that the disk was mounted 44 time, and the label of 250wd
Nov 08 03:15:00 <arthur92710> times*
Nov 08 03:15:38 <arthur92710> how long should it take
Nov 08 03:39:09 <arthur92710> ok its "fixed"
Nov 08 03:42:06 <arthur92710> now it says /dev/sdc1 on /stuff type ext3 (rw,data=ordered)
Nov 08 03:42:09 <arthur92710> in mount
Nov 08 03:42:12 <arthur92710> looks ok
Nov 08 03:44:20 <arthur92710> but its not
Nov 08 03:45:07 <arthur92710> I started a torrent, it began to varify, then in mount this came up: /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1 type ext3 (rw,sync,data=ordered)
Nov 08 03:47:54 <mwester> if you wanted to actually fix the errors, you needed to say "yes" to all of the questions ;)
Nov 08 03:48:01 <arthur92710> I did
Nov 08 03:48:06 <mwester> Ah, ok.
Nov 08 03:48:29 <mwester> I'll bet you have more messages in your log file then.
Nov 08 03:48:42 <arthur92710> a few
Nov 08 03:49:02 <mwester> So that would indicate that the filesystem problems are caused by the errors you are getting on the NSLU2, not the other way around.
Nov 08 03:49:20 <arthur92710> so its not the disk
Nov 08 03:49:50 <arthur92710> I get
Nov 08 03:49:51 <arthur92710> <2>EXT3-fs error (device sdb1): ext3_find_entry: reading directory #30670850 offset 0
Nov 08 03:50:01 <mwester> That means that there is a problem with the drive, the cable or hardware between the drive and the NSLU2, or the NSLU2.  Since the drive works on Knoppix, and the NSLU2 works on the other disk, it seem logical that the only thing left is something between the disk and the NSLU2.
Nov 08 03:50:18 <mwester> Do you have something between disk and NSLU2?
Nov 08 03:50:34 <arthur92710> yes the ide to usb and the hub
Nov 08 03:51:06 <mwester> Did you use the ide to usb with Knoppix?
Nov 08 03:51:23 <arthur92710> yes
Nov 08 03:52:01 <mwester> Ok.  That makes me highly suspicious of the hub.  If you take the hub out, does the disk behave correctly?
Nov 08 03:52:19 <arthur92710> uh, let me see
Nov 08 03:56:37 <arthur92710> yes it works
Nov 08 03:57:12 <arthur92710> its varifing now
Nov 08 03:57:29 <arthur92710> mounted in /stuff
Nov 08 03:58:19 <arthur92710> ok it works
Nov 08 03:58:53 <arthur92710> so...
Nov 08 04:02:08 <arthur92710> you want say that its the hub?
Nov 08 04:11:33 <mwester> What do you think?
Nov 08 04:11:38 <arthur92710> no
Nov 08 04:11:41 <arthur92710> :P
Nov 08 04:11:54 <arthur92710> or yes?
Nov 08 04:12:52 <arthur92710> aghh, and I have 2 of them, 4 port unpowered hub from ebay.
Nov 08 04:12:54 <mwester> I'll leave you to ponder that. :)   But you might like to search the archives of the mailing list (on yahoo groups) to see what experiences others have had with hubs.
Nov 08 04:13:23 <arthur92710> is it fixable or do I need a differnet hub?
Nov 08 04:14:11 <mwester> I have some frighteningly expensive hubs that I bought when I didn't know better, and I have some el-cheapo hubs from eBay, and I have a hub that's so cheap that it was a give-away at a trade show. :)  All I can say is that price is not a good indicator of quality.
Nov 08 04:14:45 <arthur92710> and they all work, on the slug?
Nov 08 04:14:49 <mwester> However, there is some evidence that externally-powered hubs are less problematic.  Maybe the manufacturers build them a bit better in that case?
Nov 08 04:15:09 <mwester> They all work on the slug, but not with all types of devices.
Nov 08 04:15:28 <arthur92710> I have a NEW 4 PORT HIGH SPEED MINI USB 2.0 HUB LAPTOP PC Slim
Nov 08 04:15:39 <arthur92710> want the link?
Nov 08 04:15:50 <mwester> In particular, mixing USB 1.1 devices such as printers or serial adaptors with USB 2.0 high-speed things like disks has given be a lot of trouble.
Nov 08 04:16:07 <mwester> some hubs just don't like that at all.
Nov 08 04:16:37 <arthur92710> oh, some as in the cheaper ones, or randomly
Nov 08 04:16:57 <mwester> I really didn't keep track too much, I'm afraid.  No obvious pattern.
Nov 08 04:17:42 <arthur92710> oh, thats exaclty what i was going to do, a harddrive and a printer, 
Nov 08 04:18:04 <arthur92710> but it does not work with a harddrive by its self,
Nov 08 04:18:23 <mwester> Yeah, then it's not likely to work with the printer added.
Nov 08 04:18:50 <arthur92710> so geting a Blue Color LED 7 Port USB Hub Splitter w/ AC Adapter wont help?
Nov 08 04:19:32 <mwester> Can't say for certain.  But I do feel that the ones with ac power have behaved better.
Nov 08 04:19:54 <arthur92710> one way to find out..
Nov 08 04:19:57 <mwester> ;) Don't think the blue color wil make a difference, though.
Nov 08 04:20:01 <arthur92710> lol
Nov 08 04:20:01 <mwester> :p
Nov 08 04:20:15 <mwester> I'm told the slug is color blind.
Nov 08 04:20:18 <arthur92710> I just copied it from the ebay page
Nov 08 04:20:37 <arthur92710> so am i, partially
Nov 08 04:20:56 <mwester> Can you borrow one from a freind for a few hours?  That's a quick and inexpensive way to find one that works.
Nov 08 04:21:03 <arthur92710> just I dont know to what color
Nov 08 04:21:24 <arthur92710> "friend", whats that?
Nov 08 04:21:31 <arthur92710> lol
Nov 08 04:22:08 <arthur92710> uh, non of then would have one, their not the computer type
Nov 08 04:22:22 <mwester> Also, if you have a hub, you have a cable from the NSLU2 to the hub -- you might try swapping that first.   if the total cable length gets too long, then crappy quality cables (or ones bitten by cats) can cause trouble.
Nov 08 04:22:22 <arthur92710> them*
Nov 08 04:22:50 <arthur92710> cats
Nov 08 04:22:52 <arthur92710> lol
Nov 08 04:23:25 <arthur92710> ok, tommorw I will try the other adapter and the other hub, now I have to sleep 
Nov 08 04:23:39 <mwester> ok.  some good progress today.
Nov 08 04:23:58 <arthur92710> yeah
Nov 08 04:24:16 <arthur92710> good night :)
Nov 08 15:02:29 <ScriptFanix> hi
Nov 08 15:03:55 <ScriptFanix> I'm completely stuck with my (second) NSLU2 since i upgraded to lenny
Nov 08 15:04:40 <ScriptFanix> it didn't boot at all, so i reflashed it with the debian installer, reflashed apex and kernel+initrd.
Nov 08 15:06:48 <ScriptFanix> now it "boots" (looks like), i can ping it, but that's all... And it seems even syslogd doesn't run : can't see anything more recent than the post-upgrade reboot
Nov 08 15:17:46 <martin011> hello
Nov 08 15:20:56 <martin011> I have gotten a nslu2 and am having some random slow booting problems with debian
Nov 08 15:21:04 <martin011> Anyone can give a hint?
Nov 08 15:25:19 <ScriptFanix> oops, think I found my problem... /sbin/start-stop-daemon was the fake start-stop-daemon
Nov 08 15:30:38 <ScriptFanix> ok, problem solved
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