**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 03 02:59:57 2009 Jan 03 19:05:30 morning, any1 with an unslung slug awake, who would provide me a hardcopy of the page in the webinterface where i can set up the dns? tia Jan 03 19:25:41 why would you need that caplink811_log Jan 03 19:48:00 DrJ, help for a newbie, but myself have no unslung machine at hand Jan 03 19:48:41 what's the dude's question? Jan 03 20:01:00 caplink811_log: http://jeremyj.com/dns.jpg Jan 03 20:12:01 thanks a lot, DrJ :) Jan 03 20:12:17 np Jan 03 21:30:03 hi everyone Jan 03 21:33:16 i tired to follow the instructions provided here on installing optware on my linkstation device its works fine except that when i reboot changes are all lost Jan 03 21:33:18 http://forum.buffalo.nas-central.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=4075&p=39162 Jan 03 21:33:34 anyone have an idea what i could be missing please? Jan 03 23:14:41 this looks to me like the general I'd like to express my WOW! feeling about the NSLU linux effort, so here it goes: I LOVE those nice developers who created a workable image :) Jan 03 23:29:11 hi; i have flashed my nslu2 with upslug2 (the image is the latest slugos/be, i.e. slugosbe-4.8-beta-nslu2.bin); the flashing completes successfully, the slug reboots, and only sshd is enabled on the device, and I have no clue what the default password is... Jan 03 23:29:41 i've been reading a lot of documentation but some might be outdated and didn't provide me with what i need to log into my slug Jan 03 23:30:10 i've read about a uNSLUng password but that doesn't work (assuming the username is root) Jan 03 23:36:53 found it! http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/OpenSlugDefaultPassword Jan 03 23:43:30 that still took you 6 full minutes :) Jan 03 23:44:47 I use debian since I am allready familiar with debian Jan 03 23:45:05 what would be a good argument to use any of the other flavours? Jan 04 00:01:50 low footprint Jan 04 00:01:59 (i guess ;)) Jan 04 00:02:22 i am familiar with debian, too, but i'd like to try slugos just out of curiosity Jan 04 00:02:58 btw, i know there is a very simple raw print server available for the nslu2 - not cups, another one which is very basic, much like an HP jetdirect server Jan 04 00:03:09 any idea of the name of that package? i can't remember it - i think it has numbers in the name Jan 04 00:04:13 hmm Jan 04 00:04:26 I have a printer that has a builtin printserver :) Jan 04 00:04:47 but I can understand 'low footprint' Jan 04 00:07:30 the 'I guess' undermines the argument somewhat :) Jan 04 00:08:21 looks like it is p910n Jan 04 00:08:42 it does not undermines the argument - it just shows that i don't really care ;) i'm just playing around with the device and see what i can do with it :) Jan 04 00:09:09 it's been sitting in a drawer for a few months, so i thought i should do something with it before it really becomes obsolete Jan 04 00:10:29 i'd be happy with a scanner+print server Jan 04 00:10:40 and if it can be a basic NAS for weekly backups i'll be very happy Jan 04 00:11:03 (in addition to the rest) (i have soldered more USB ports) Jan 04 00:11:56 woah it found my scanner on first try Jan 04 00:15:12 mjah Jan 04 00:15:23 I actually bought two Jan 04 00:15:57 one to use (my wife has been asking for reliable networked diskspace for months now) and one to play with Jan 04 00:16:11 terabyte usb drives are on there way Jan 04 00:16:13 :) Jan 04 00:16:15 :) Jan 04 00:16:41 any suggestion for an automated weekly backup? i really don't know what to choose between rsync, amanda(?), ... Jan 04 00:17:29 well Jan 04 00:17:35 it depends Jan 04 00:17:46 you want point in time backups probably Jan 04 00:18:30 bacula sounds like a good plan Jan 04 00:18:54 rsync is only usefull for creating a remote copy of your local backup Jan 04 00:19:03 as an extra safety measure Jan 04 00:19:41 I am probably going to use rsync to copy my data out of the house into the datacenter Jan 04 00:20:14 and then use something like bacula to do the point in time backups Jan 04 00:22:29 does that help? Jan 04 00:40:26 yes it does Jan 04 00:40:33 great Jan 04 00:40:40 i'm installing debian on the nslu2 Jan 04 00:40:42 it's always nice to be of assistance Jan 04 00:40:47 so am I Jan 04 00:40:50 it takes ages :) Jan 04 00:41:09 i had problems with the sane package in slugos Jan 04 00:41:44 i added an internal SD card reader in my slug Jan 04 00:41:51 and i have a 512MB SD card that i'll use for the system Jan 04 00:42:03 i'll be careful to disable all unnecessary disk writing Jan 04 00:42:10 pff Jan 04 00:42:19 I use a 500GB harddrive :) Jan 04 00:42:32 well, i don't want to boot the nslu2 OS off my data drive Jan 04 00:42:39 and one noisy harddrive is largely enough for me Jan 04 00:43:07 I'm not bothered by the sound of harddrives Jan 04 00:43:23 i am :/ Jan 04 00:43:33 I have been living amongst them for more than 20 years now Jan 04 00:43:51 heh Jan 04 00:44:18 i'm not bothered by light when i sleep, but some people are - likewise, some people are not bothered by noise but some others are... it just depends of people Jan 04 00:44:25 i know someone who actually likes the sound of harddrives Jan 04 00:44:30 I have slept with a running vax in my bedroom Jan 04 00:44:51 oO Jan 04 00:46:33 first time i'm doing a debian install over ssh - it's neat Jan 04 00:46:40 it is Jan 04 00:50:22 and it's swapping the hell out of my disk Jan 04 00:50:30 hmmmmm Jan 04 00:50:43 I thought you'd like to know Jan 04 00:50:47 yes i do... Jan 04 00:50:53 i cannot add swap space Jan 04 00:50:58 well i can but it's going to kill my flash drive Jan 04 00:51:40 maybe i could add some RAM to the slug if I have the chance to come across the needed SDRAM chips Jan 04 00:51:48 man Jan 04 00:51:53 you must be kidding Jan 04 00:52:06 no, many people have done this previously :) check the wiki Jan 04 00:52:23 I know how good I am with a soldering iron Jan 04 00:52:25 (i'm an electronic engineer so adding some chips doesn't seem too hard to me) Jan 04 00:52:36 I really suck at it Jan 04 00:52:49 you need to practice Jan 04 00:52:58 I need to do what I'm good at Jan 04 00:53:05 the installer seems stuck, i bet some subprocess got oom-killed Jan 04 00:53:12 (no swap space) Jan 04 00:54:17 I should be getting to bed Jan 04 00:54:22 so do i Jan 04 00:54:39 i'd have liked to finish setting up my nslu2 before sleeping, but it looks like i won't be able to do it Jan 04 00:55:46 I am getting very near to completion Jan 04 01:00:13 there is a "live-installer" installer module that i can select... and the description is "install the system" Jan 04 01:00:19 looks like i need to select that... Jan 04 01:00:31 you don't 'need' to select anything Jan 04 01:00:31 on the other hand it says that all the required components are already there Jan 04 01:00:47 it left me puzzeled for a moment too Jan 04 01:01:01 well i'll try without selecting anything :) Jan 04 01:01:11 in the hope that there will be enough memory... Jan 04 01:02:01 worst case: i connect a disk with a swap partition during the installation process Jan 04 01:02:08 and i remove it afterwards Jan 04 01:02:19 sounds like a sound plan to me Jan 04 01:04:43 i'll probably install a heatsink on the CPU too Jan 04 01:04:59 i don't want my slug to fry during next summer Jan 04 01:16:07 put it in the fridge ;) Jan 04 01:16:14 :) Jan 04 01:16:50 was your installer stuck on "installing core packages" for a while? Jan 04 01:16:57 nope Jan 04 01:16:59 or is it dying because it has no swap Jan 04 01:17:00 hmm Jan 04 01:17:14 it has taken a very long time to install the locales Jan 04 01:17:43 well there is still some activity on my usb disk, so it's doing something, but it could still be stuck Jan 04 01:17:59 im going to prepare a usb key with a big swap partition... Jan 04 01:18:06 i hope it will see it and use it Jan 04 01:18:07 that is exactly why I like the sound of harddrives Jan 04 01:18:11 heh :) Jan 04 01:19:28 I'd like to point out the possibility to open a second ssh session to your NSLU2 and open a shell Jan 04 01:19:36 excellent idea Jan 04 01:19:52 a tail -f /var/log/syslog is a very informative thing :) Jan 04 01:20:07 ...oom kill :D Jan 04 01:20:16 hehe Jan 04 01:20:21 i knew it lol Jan 04 01:23:09 ok now it will have 2GB swap Jan 04 01:23:12 wow Jan 04 01:23:20 that must be enough Jan 04 01:23:21 (but just for the installer) Jan 04 01:23:27 mine has only 512M Jan 04 01:23:29 i hope it is enough :) Jan 04 01:23:30 for the installer Jan 04 01:23:37 so 2GB must be more than enough Jan 04 01:23:51 i just took a SD card reader and the SD card of my digital camera and put a linux swap partition on it Jan 04 01:23:54 that should do it Jan 04 01:23:57 it may be slow but it should work Jan 04 01:24:29 patience is a virtue Jan 04 01:24:33 :) Jan 04 01:25:00 the first thing im going to do is open a shell and check that it saw the swap Jan 04 01:25:27 you can always use the magic swapon command :) Jan 04 01:25:38 absolutely :) Jan 04 01:26:44 hmmm i have to load the usb storage module first, and to do so i guess that i have to go further into the installation process Jan 04 01:29:26 hmm, swapon says Invalid argument Jan 04 01:29:33 i must have made a mistake creating my swap partition Jan 04 01:29:52 is there something special that needs to be done? i just fired up cfdisk and created a type 82 ( i believe) parition on the drive Jan 04 01:30:06 I suggest you use the installer to create the swap partition Jan 04 01:30:32 well im not sure i can do that as the swap partition will be on a different device than the system partition Jan 04 01:31:17 I don't see why that shuold be a problem Jan 04 01:31:17 im trying Jan 04 01:31:20 yea Jan 04 01:31:51 i hope that it's identifying devices by UUID Jan 04 01:31:58 so do I Jan 04 01:32:15 since it is nicer to play together than alone :) Jan 04 01:32:22 :) Jan 04 01:32:54 how can i check it enabled the swap? Jan 04 01:33:00 free Jan 04 01:33:06 free is your friend Jan 04 01:33:07 works :) Jan 04 01:33:10 nice :) Jan 04 01:33:51 i should really try to find those damned SDRAM chips and increase the amount of RAM of my slug Jan 04 01:33:58 cause 32MB is really low Jan 04 01:34:15 I don't want to discourage you Jan 04 01:34:21 i don't think i'll be able to do much with the slug if I left it as is without swap Jan 04 01:34:22 but the processor is slow too Jan 04 01:34:50 well that's true, but for what i want to do i hope it will be enough (raw scanner server, raw printer server, and maybe some storage as a bonus) Jan 04 01:35:29 I'd like to help you hoping Jan 04 01:35:50 i've heard the speed of the slug is no more than 5MB/sec when used as a NAS Jan 04 01:35:56 can you confirm this? Jan 04 01:36:01 not yet Jan 04 01:36:03 k Jan 04 01:36:08 5MB/s is fine for me Jan 04 01:36:12 yea for me too Jan 04 01:36:36 (it's swapping... it really needed that swap space :)) Jan 04 01:36:36 if I need speed I'll get myself a real disk-server ;) Jan 04 01:37:31 yea - some relatives needed a good filer, so i made one with Solaris and a RAID-Z2 array (equivalent of RAID-6 with ZFS, an interesting filesystem from Sun availabile mainly on Solaris) Jan 04 01:37:53 hehe Jan 04 01:37:53 (if you don't know about ZFS i suggest you read about it, there's a very good Wikipedia article, it's a good starting point) Jan 04 01:38:05 I know about ZFS Jan 04 01:38:10 :) Jan 04 01:38:12 I know it needs a better license Jan 04 01:38:21 yea... Jan 04 01:38:30 but Sun filed lots of patents too Jan 04 01:38:45 so even if the license gets better, Sun could still prevent people from using it with their patents Jan 04 01:39:04 there's a FUSE implementation of ZFS on Linux but I wouldn't rely on it Jan 04 01:40:16 patents are overrated Jan 04 01:40:47 so long as debian isn't going to include ZFS by default I'm not going to burn my fingers on it Jan 04 01:40:55 anyway... there's that damned license Jan 04 01:41:21 well the license is not really good, but still... it's open source, so you can always read your data (theoretically) Jan 04 01:41:28 so from my point of view it's rather safe to use it Jan 04 01:41:39 that doesn't give you a reliable setup though Jan 04 01:41:48 the hurd is open source too Jan 04 01:42:00 that doesn't mean you can use it for anything usefull Jan 04 01:42:15 well i'n pretty sure Sun is going to support Solaris for a few more years Jan 04 01:42:26 and if they do so, they should continue supporting ZFS too Jan 04 01:42:42 cause it's used in datacenters by big companies who simply can't risk loosing their data Jan 04 01:42:50 I don't really like solaris Jan 04 01:42:55 me neither Jan 04 01:43:03 but I'm interested in ZFS Jan 04 01:43:07 it has bitten me too often in the past Jan 04 01:43:11 and then again, it was an opportunity to play with something else Jan 04 01:43:12 :) Jan 04 01:44:12 play with filesystems? Jan 04 01:44:19 OSes Jan 04 01:44:24 I'd rather play with OSes Jan 04 01:44:27 indeed Jan 04 01:44:49 but actually i did play with ZFS before putting my data on it Jan 04 01:44:53 for the record Jan 04 01:45:00 cause i'm not going to put my data on something i don't know how to use Jan 04 01:45:16 I use servers in datacenters and I cannot afford loosing my data Jan 04 01:45:37 I played with reiserfs once Jan 04 01:45:44 i'd be interested to hear about your experience Jan 04 01:45:59 so what happened? i never really tried all those "other" filesystems Jan 04 01:46:02 should I ? Jan 04 01:46:06 no Jan 04 01:46:12 ^^ Jan 04 01:46:14 unless you really want to get into it Jan 04 01:46:18 i see Jan 04 01:46:24 it will cost you LOTS of time Jan 04 01:46:25 i don't have the time to Jan 04 01:46:32 I recommend ext3fs Jan 04 01:46:46 i wonder if ext4 will be good Jan 04 01:46:46 it is very well supported Jan 04 01:46:51 indeed Jan 04 01:46:52 everyone uses it Jan 04 01:47:02 and it has a lot of tools Jan 04 01:47:18 debugfs? xD Jan 04 01:47:40 uh Jan 04 01:47:43 well Jan 04 01:47:44 i remember recovering some deleted files with that tool, but maybe it was on an ext3 filesystem Jan 04 01:47:49 ext2* Jan 04 01:48:01 if your filesystem is broken Jan 04 01:48:03 don't fix it Jan 04 01:48:24 yea i was just using it to copy "deleted" inodes to files Jan 04 01:48:26 nothing nasty Jan 04 01:49:21 filesystems and kernels Jan 04 01:49:36 they are for the supernatural Jan 04 01:49:44 use them Jan 04 01:50:01 i did hack some drivers, but... well... the result wasn't always up to my expectations ;) Jan 04 01:50:20 it's the sort of stuff that you have to understand perfectly if you want to touch it Jan 04 01:50:33 it's not necessarily hard, but as you said you really need to get into it Jan 04 01:50:47 indeed Jan 04 01:51:01 raising children sounds like more fun to me Jan 04 01:51:12 :) Jan 04 01:53:25 it's also something that requires a lot of attention Jan 04 01:53:28 and a lot of time Jan 04 01:54:21 indeed Jan 04 01:54:27 but no defragmentation Jan 04 01:54:34 and backups are not an option Jan 04 01:54:41 :D Jan 04 01:55:18 i'm a bit too young to think too much about this yet Jan 04 01:55:28 it'll come quickly enough i'm sure Jan 04 01:55:28 how old are you? Jan 04 01:55:32 22, almost 23 Jan 04 01:55:35 ah Jan 04 01:55:39 I'm 33 Jan 04 01:55:51 :) Jan 04 01:56:15 I'll be a parent soon Jan 04 01:56:23 congrats then Jan 04 01:56:23 have to get this thing working before that happens :) Jan 04 01:56:29 hah Jan 04 01:56:37 my system is rebooting :) Jan 04 01:56:50 mine says it's almost done Jan 04 01:56:57 (finally...) Jan 04 01:57:07 (and it's swapping) Jan 04 01:57:32 with another 16MB chip i wouldn't have needed any swap space Jan 04 01:57:52 i hate those equipment manufacturers who always put the minimum amount of RAM and of FLASH Jan 04 01:58:02 (economy of scale, blah blah... :/) Jan 04 01:58:32 I do like them Jan 04 01:58:59 it keeps the price down Jan 04 01:58:59 well i'm sure that if we paid $1 more per device we could have double RAM and double FLASH Jan 04 01:59:29 I'm not Jan 04 01:59:59 i wonder if some "usb ram drives" are available Jan 04 02:00:08 just like a usb flash drive, but with RAM inside Jan 04 02:00:24 it may look stupid and useless but for swap it would be just perfect Jan 04 02:02:09 it booted! Jan 04 02:02:13 and it is working :) Jan 04 02:02:20 congrats Jan 04 02:02:24 now you can raise your child Jan 04 02:02:26 ;P Jan 04 02:02:34 hehe Jan 04 02:04:23 did you know that there are actually 5 USB ports in each NSLU2 ? Jan 04 02:04:27 only 2 are soldered on Jan 04 02:04:34 but you can solder wires to get the 3 extra ones Jan 04 02:04:54 wow Jan 04 02:05:01 (it's from the wiki) Jan 04 02:05:17 if only I was a handyman Jan 04 02:05:30 as i said, you just need to practice Jan 04 02:05:53 (and the right tools - you cannot do a nice soldering job without a fine soldering iron and some good solder) Jan 04 02:06:16 i've been soldering things for like 10 years Jan 04 02:06:46 my toughest soldering job was a 100-pin chip, with a 0.5mm pitch Jan 04 02:06:53 that one was hard Jan 04 02:08:36 man Jan 04 02:08:46 I play the viola Jan 04 02:22:22 that is hard too Jan 04 02:22:25 well actually Jan 04 02:22:27 it is now Jan 04 02:22:28 not Jan 04 02:22:34 it takes a lot of practice Jan 04 02:22:48 :) Jan 04 02:22:49 http://www.direcs.de/nslu2/slides/imgp6816.html Jan 04 02:22:54 this is what i've done (the picture is not mine) Jan 04 02:23:17 for scale, look at the USB connector on the right Jan 04 02:23:24 on the other side of the circuit board Jan 04 02:23:26 uh huh Jan 04 02:24:24 I have my samba working too Jan 04 02:24:28 :) Jan 04 02:24:54 nice Jan 04 02:25:04 with authentication? Jan 04 02:25:12 sure Jan 04 02:25:27 I have done that before Jan 04 02:25:47 do you mind putting your configuration file on a pastebin so that i can take a look at it? remove the sensitive stuff if any Jan 04 02:25:50 it's doing about 6MB per second Jan 04 02:25:54 nice Jan 04 02:26:12 i don't care if the configuration is clean or not, i'm just curious Jan 04 02:26:20 what is the url for the pastebin? Jan 04 02:26:22 (and if i can reuse it, it's a bonus ;P) Jan 04 02:26:24 hmm Jan 04 02:26:36 http://pastebin.com should do it Jan 04 02:26:57 Howdy, I just got a used nslu2 and have intent to run linux on it, but I can't connect to even the stock unit in linux... Any help? Jan 04 02:27:24 Circs, try resetting the unit to the factory default settings using the reset button Jan 04 02:27:43 it may be configured to use an IP address which is not reachable on your network Jan 04 02:28:15 uski: I have done that while the unit was on and it beeped at me, that's all so far. I followed instructions in the FAQ but was unable to connect Jan 04 02:28:21 http://pastebin.com/m3adc3fe9 Jan 04 02:28:47 uski: it's the most basic way Jan 04 02:28:55 Circs, did you wait long enough? some firmware do an initial beep to show that it's alive, and some other beeps afterwards once the unit is booted Jan 04 02:29:04 and then you can (after restarting samba) connect to \\ip\share Jan 04 02:29:25 SynQ, thanks :) Jan 04 02:29:45 Circs, usually it takes no more than 5 minutes (5 real minutes) Jan 04 02:29:57 ok Jan 04 02:30:01 uski: I've been trying since last night, I've reset it multiple times, the FAQ gave me instructions on how to "get a compatible IP address" but I noticed my computer still has a 192.168.2.2 addy Jan 04 02:30:04 now that it's working I'm going to bed Jan 04 02:30:14 uski: it was nice to play together :) Jan 04 02:30:22 SynQ, good night :) Jan 04 02:30:24 thanks for the companionship Jan 04 02:30:28 good night to you too Jan 04 02:30:31 np :) maybe see you later Jan 04 02:30:38 mayhaps Jan 04 02:30:47 I'm usually found on #WebGUI :) Jan 04 02:31:01 Circs, so your problem is that you don't know how to change the IP address of your computer? Jan 04 02:31:04 ~ Jan 04 02:31:09 SynQ, kk :) Jan 04 02:31:36 uski: Maybe. Should I pastebin my ifconfig for you? Jan 04 02:31:47 Circs, what is your distro Jan 04 02:31:58 uski: Ubuntu 8.04 Jan 04 02:32:03 are you using a wired connexion? Jan 04 02:32:08 (not wireless) Jan 04 02:32:20 uski: For this computer Jan 04 02:32:23 (it's not important, but it tells me what i should tell you to do) Jan 04 02:32:25 Yes wired Jan 04 02:32:28 kk Jan 04 02:32:57 so what is the IP address of your slug, and what is your current IP address? Jan 04 02:33:33 uski: The slug is whatever it is after being reset 15 times :) and mine is 192.168.2.2 Jan 04 02:33:43 do you have a DHCP server on your network? Jan 04 02:33:56 uski: I believe my router does that Jan 04 02:33:57 do you know which firmware the slug is running? Jan 04 02:34:12 uski: It's stock to the best of my knowledge Jan 04 02:34:15 ok Jan 04 02:34:44 well look into the Linksys documentation to see which IP address it uses (or if it takes one from the DHCP server) Jan 04 02:35:09 Everything I've found on the net says 192.168.1.77 Jan 04 02:35:16 then do this: Jan 04 02:35:25 sudo ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.55 Jan 04 02:35:34 assuming your ethernet interface is eth0 Jan 04 02:35:39 Yep Jan 04 02:35:40 then try http://192.168.1.77 Jan 04 02:35:52 Ok that'll disconnect me form here probably huh Jan 04 02:35:55 no Jan 04 02:35:59 oh ok Jan 04 02:35:59 well it should not Jan 04 02:36:09 Let's find out :) Jan 04 02:36:18 if it does and you're stuck ,unplug and replug your wired cable and network-manager should put you back online Jan 04 02:36:24 Still here Jan 04 02:36:26 ok Jan 04 02:36:29 good Jan 04 02:36:34 try accessing the nslu now Jan 04 02:36:59 No such luck Jan 04 02:37:20 it's very possible that the nslu got an IP address from your dhcp server Jan 04 02:37:38 how many computers do you have on your network, including all the network appliances (such as the nslu2) ? Jan 04 02:37:49 i.e. how many IP addresses are likely used on your network Jan 04 02:37:55 approximately Jan 04 02:38:00 is it like 2, 5, 10, 100 ? Jan 04 02:38:24 Probably like 4 on this network Jan 04 02:38:26 ok Jan 04 02:38:35 let's try to find the slug Jan 04 02:38:39 sudo apt-get install nmap Jan 04 02:39:09 sudo nmap -sP -PS -T Insane 192.168.2.* Jan 04 02:39:25 I found the slug Jan 04 02:39:33 ? Jan 04 02:39:55 I had my firewall down and it was still monitoring activity and it caught a hit from 192.168.1.80 Jan 04 02:40:01 oh Jan 04 02:40:02 :) Jan 04 02:40:35 Wooohooo! Jan 04 02:40:41 i suggest you assign a fixed IP address to the slug, within your usual IP range (which seems to be 192.168.2.*), outside the DHCP automatic range (i'd choose 192.168.2.250 for example) Jan 04 02:41:02 uski: Ty Jan 04 02:41:09 and i suggest you try another firmware Jan 04 02:41:13 there are very good alternatives Jan 04 02:41:17 with more features Jan 04 02:41:37 i'd say Unslug but I'm not sure Jan 04 02:41:44 Yeah I was poking through them, the main reason I bought the slug was to put a modified firmware on it and learn about it Jan 04 02:41:50 :) Jan 04 02:41:54 :) Jan 04 02:41:56 I was just afraid I got a brick Jan 04 02:42:14 well that's a possibility... it's part of the game Jan 04 02:42:22 when you buy used Jan 04 02:43:10 Yeah but 20 bucks was a risk I was willing to take Jan 04 02:43:36 20 bucks? good price Jan 04 02:44:13 Yeah i thought so Jan 04 02:44:15 im off to bed - it's very late here :) Jan 04 02:44:23 uski: ty tyt tytytytytytytytytyty Jan 04 02:44:25 :) Jan 04 02:44:29 well you're welcome Jan 04 02:44:40 have fun with your nslu2 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 04 02:59:57 2009