**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 16 02:59:57 2009 Jan 16 05:33:02 hey everyone Jan 16 05:33:15 is there a way to slim down the nslu2 pcb? Jan 16 05:34:02 hey xerion Jan 16 05:34:06 whats up? Jan 16 05:35:38 hello? Jan 16 05:36:40 what do you mean brianpspmod? Jan 16 05:36:50 you want to make the board smaller? Jan 16 05:37:21 yeah!! Jan 16 05:37:29 im trying to fit it in a psp Jan 16 05:37:47 or make it small enough that it isnt too bulky sitting on the back of the psp case Jan 16 05:38:00 I don't think you could Jan 16 05:38:06 or possibly a nslu2 alternative that has a smaller pcb Jan 16 05:39:08 is there anything like the nslu2 that is smaller? Jan 16 05:39:10 I don't know of any Jan 16 05:39:16 ohhh man! Jan 16 05:39:47 sooooooooooo Jan 16 05:39:54 how big is it really? Jan 16 05:40:03 i read 5x3.5 Jan 16 05:40:56 idk Jan 16 05:41:22 oh ok Jan 16 05:41:29 sorry for bothering you Jan 16 18:14:09 mwester: can I set a kernel module option via /etc/modprobe.d/options with SlugOS 5.2-alpha with Linux kernel 2.6.27.8? Jan 16 18:14:29 does it not work? Jan 16 18:14:39 (it certainly did in 4.8) Jan 16 18:14:58 I'm not sure.... I'm having a major bug Jan 16 18:15:24 1) /etc/modprobe.d isn't created in SlugOS-5.2 alpha, neither is /etc/modutils Jan 16 18:15:57 It wasn't in 4.8 either. Why is that a major bug? Jan 16 18:16:33 2) when opening/reading files via the IDE, I get lots of usb disconnect errors, it was fixed in previous kernels, the kernel SlugOS 4.8 used Jan 16 18:16:42 #2 is the major bug Jan 16 18:17:41 it's very similiar to this bug Jan 16 18:17:42 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/116440 Jan 16 18:20:14 I don't understand what you mean with #2. Do you mean IDE disk, and what does that have to do with USB? Jan 16 18:22:03 I'm absolutely totally swamped with real-job stuff right now. What you need to do is to create a completely-reproducable test case that I or someone else with a DSMG600 or even the 100D can use to duplicate the problem from a virgin clean install, and send that to the email list. Otherwise your problem report will simply get lost. :( Jan 16 18:22:34 I have a completely reproducable test case Jan 16 18:23:31 I also have a similiar issuse to this: https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/bugme-new/2008-December/020595.html Jan 16 18:23:45 but it's with my USB sound card rather than a USB flash drive Jan 16 18:25:58 does the DSM-G600 IDE port and WiFi work with SlugOS 4.8? Jan 16 18:28:31 of course Jan 16 18:34:55 Great, then I'll get the details on the problem from the mailing list, I'll take a look at it when I find a bit more time. Jan 16 18:54:50 how do I disable EABI so I can compile stuff for SlugOS 4.8? Jan 16 18:57:47 Hello all. Is anyone able to help with the following question: After ipkg upgrade through ssh (which I have now read is not a good idea) I can't boot my slug to a working state (although it will turn on). This is mainly (I think) because /bin/sh is gone... anyone have any idea? I think part of the problem with the upgrade may have been that http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugosbe/native/4.8-beta/ is missing Jan 16 18:59:50 Are you using Unslug or SlugOS? Jan 16 18:59:59 SlugOS Jan 16 19:00:51 verify you are trying to connect to the correct IP address/host name, I do 'ipkg upgrade' via SSH all the time Jan 16 19:02:02 when a NSLU2 boots up, after it's 100% up, you should have heard a single beep soon after power is applied, and 2 beeps right before it's 100% booted up, do you hear all these 3 beeps? Jan 16 19:03:41 I hear 1 beep, then 3, but they are of a different tone to usual. I've mounted the hard disk on this computer and the /bin directory only has about 3 programs in it, and the last messages in /var/log/messages include daemon.info init: cannot execute "/etc/init.d/rc" Jan 16 19:09:57 sorry, maybe it's 3 beeps quick beeps right before it's 100% booted up... opps Jan 16 19:10:57 heh, it seems a bit strange that an upgrade would have deleted files Jan 16 19:11:04 I don't know what went wrong, others may... sorry Jan 16 19:11:19 That's ok, thanks anyways Jan 16 19:11:34 like I mentioned, are the files here: http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugosbe/native/4.8-beta/ meant to be empty? Jan 16 19:14:44 Don't know sorry, I haven't figure out what it means for a package to be native vs. cross Jan 16 19:15:21 hmm, maybe it means cross compiled, vs compiled on the nslu2 Jan 16 19:15:35 Stuidge: definately not Jan 16 19:15:39 I dont' think so Jan 16 19:16:30 I think cross means cross-compilied, because I think all packages in the repo are cross compiled, but I'm pretty sure native doesn't mean natively built on a NSLU2 Jan 16 19:18:01 did you edit your ipkg conf files in /etc/ipkg? Jan 16 19:18:18 Not manually, no Jan 16 19:18:56 yeah, I've never done an ipkg upgrade, only ipkg update Jan 16 19:19:30 yeah ipkg update only updates the list of available pkgs. Upgrade should bring them to the latest version Jan 16 19:19:55 the wiki says to only do this over telnet, as the ssh client is upgraded as well....but I only read this after doing it Jan 16 19:20:04 :( Jan 16 19:20:11 i'll have to remember that Jan 16 19:59:27 hi. im trying to install debian on my nslu2 with a 1tb hard drive and the system fails at making the system bootable. could someone help me? Jan 16 20:04:13 Stuidge: There are no native packages anymore, as all SlugOS packages are now cross. Jan 16 20:05:11 Stuidge: Can you check your on-disk rootfs, to see what package feeds you had defined? Specifically, search /etc/ipkg/*.conf to see if any of those files include the string "unstable" -- if so, you are pulling the unstable feeds which are for SlugOS 5.x, and that's what trashed your system. Jan 16 20:05:45 okay, just looking Jan 16 20:06:14 scant: If you want to develop for SlugOS 4.8, you have to build a SlugOS 4.8 environment -- "make slugos-4.8-beta" (it is insufficient to just "turn off" EABI) Jan 16 20:06:21 in their respective files I only have Jan 16 20:06:21 src/gz cross http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugosbe/cross/4.8-beta Jan 16 20:06:21 src/gz native http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugosbe/native/4.8-beta Jan 16 20:06:32 that's in /etc Jan 16 20:06:41 /ipg Jan 16 20:06:49 ...you know what I mean :) Jan 16 20:07:22 in my ipkg.conf I do have this line: Jan 16 20:07:22 src optware http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/slugosbe/cross/unstable Jan 16 20:07:37 hi. im trying to install debian on my nslu2 with a 1tb hard drive and the system fails at making the system bootable. could someone help me? Jan 16 20:09:06 have you managed to boot it with the default firmware? Jan 16 20:09:19 yes i have Jan 16 20:09:43 i was almost done with the install but then this happened Jan 16 20:10:16 the only thing i did was format the drive myself with ext3 (it kept running out of memory) Jan 16 20:11:12 hmm, are you using instructions from http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/install.html Jan 16 20:11:28 yep Jan 16 20:12:58 oh, just in case you need it im using version 5.0 beta 1 Jan 16 20:13:06 I'm not using that firmware, so I'm not too sure Jan 16 20:13:47 oh ok Jan 16 20:13:47 I think widrone may have more familiarity with it, but I'm a bit of a newbie as well Jan 16 20:14:11 i continued without the bootloader Jan 16 20:14:19 lets see what happens Jan 16 20:14:41 hehe Jan 16 20:20:04 Stuidge: the optware unstable feeds are ok, so it was something else that blew up your system then. :( Jan 16 20:37:31 the only thing i can think of is that my swap was before my root partition Jan 16 20:37:38 and the ext3 Jan 16 21:41:46 hi Jan 16 21:41:54 anyone around? Jan 16 21:42:15 yes but I have no clue about anything slug related Jan 16 21:42:55 lol, Im a complete noob to linux - I have found most of the slug stuff easy (only done the basic install mind!) Jan 16 21:43:19 ok Jan 16 21:43:43 just wondering if anyone can tell me where I can find the auto mounted hdds from a command line! Jan 16 21:44:16 what os? Jan 16 21:44:43 unslug Jan 16 21:45:00 its a silly long path Jan 16 21:45:08 oh, he's gone Jan 16 21:45:46 sorry I vanished tried the help button to figure out how to change my nick Jan 16 21:45:51 the help didnt help Jan 16 21:45:52 :-s Jan 16 21:45:56 IIRC //nick newnickname Jan 16 21:46:02 s/IIRC // Jan 16 21:46:10 did that work? Jan 16 21:46:14 lol Jan 16 21:46:16 what? Jan 16 21:46:18 god Im such a noob Jan 16 21:46:23 arent they in /usr/share and down? Jan 16 21:46:36 mount should give you a list of mounted drives and where they're moutned Jan 16 21:46:49 perfect! Jan 16 21:46:52 thanks Jan 16 21:47:30 yay Jan 16 21:47:44 erm, why does it give it a stupid name (HDD_1_1_1) Jan 16 21:47:59 IIRC //nick Ross Jan 16 21:48:26 belive it or not Im a programmer Jan 16 21:48:27 I feel like a complete new uesr Jan 16 21:48:30 /nick Ross Jan 16 21:48:31 user* Jan 16 21:48:48 ? Jan 16 21:48:50 nope Jan 16 21:48:53 typed that in exactly Jan 16 21:48:57 "/nick Ross" Jan 16 21:49:24 just tried "//nick Ross" Jan 16 21:49:33 one slash Jan 16 21:49:48 / is used to escape it, i didnt notice i'd typed the IIRC Jan 16 21:49:49 :) Jan 16 21:49:50 yay Jan 16 21:50:02 there was another Ross somewhere Jan 16 21:50:03 so hence writing "IIRC //nick newnickname" Jan 16 21:50:10 Last seen : Dec 14 20:36:19 2008 (4 weeks, 5 days, 01:13:04 ago) Jan 16 21:50:20 According to that its registered but not online Jan 16 21:50:35 right anyway, am I able to change that HDD name then cos its a bit daft at the min! Jan 16 21:50:49 does rn work or will I break something Jan 16 21:50:56 i wouldnt Jan 16 21:51:14 if you want an easy way to access it, put in a symbolic link somewhere Jan 16 21:51:15 It'll break everything that is Linksys about it. Jan 16 21:51:22 ah Jan 16 21:51:24 The symlink is a good idea. Jan 16 21:51:35 /media/nicedrivename Jan 16 21:51:36 or similar Jan 16 21:53:51 did I get kicked? Jan 16 21:54:23 nope, your nicks still here Jan 16 21:54:53 ah strange:) Jan 16 21:55:12 btw, massive thanks to all the people involed in the whole unslugging process Jan 16 21:55:27 its probably just hte java-irc client being pants Jan 16 21:56:20 symbolic link sorted - sweet:) Jan 16 21:59:13 Im completly unable to browse the slug from windows explorer now I have added an NTFS formatted usb HD drive - I couldnt see anything in the FAQ - is this normal? Jan 16 21:59:51 ignore me - its fine if I use the ip Jan 16 22:00:51 bloody windows Jan 16 22:02:29 god now its telling me a folder is called one thing in windows and one thing in linux! Jan 16 22:04:14 how do I rename something with a space in it?! Jan 16 22:04:40 put it in quotes " , or backslash the space Jan 16 22:04:44 tab autocomplete Jan 16 22:04:46 File\ name Jan 16 22:05:02 rn is the right keyword isnt it? Jan 16 22:05:11 mv might be better Jan 16 22:05:22 even if you just want to rename Jan 16 22:05:33 is that cos its close to rm? Jan 16 22:05:43 I have already deleted something because of that:) Jan 16 22:06:03 heh, not sure Jan 16 22:06:07 mv = move Jan 16 22:06:48 On my ubuntu rn doesn't exist, but rename does, and it works on lots of files instead of one Jan 16 22:07:11 where as mv works just as you'd expect a "rename" command to work Jan 16 22:08:09 yeah Jan 16 22:08:12 thats worked great:) Jan 16 22:08:13 ta Jan 16 22:08:34 is there a rmdir that will kill a dir even if it has files in it? Jan 16 22:08:42 rm -r Jan 16 22:08:48 remove recursively Jan 16 22:08:59 and rm-rf will remove everything without prompting Jan 16 22:09:00 perfect - ta Jan 16 22:09:05 be careful with it Jan 16 22:09:08 rm -rf Jan 16 22:09:17 yes, ^^ that too Jan 16 22:09:21 :) Jan 16 22:09:41 Thanks guys - I know its a pain in the ass having someone pestering with stupid questions like this, really appreciate the help Jan 16 22:10:16 ah, he was a good guy, shame he left :) Jan 16 22:10:23 hehe Jan 16 22:10:54 and you're welcome, the command line isn't the easiest to find out what commands to use Jan 16 22:11:45 urgh, now I have to clean folders starting $ Jan 16 22:11:46 urgh Jan 16 22:11:48 Google works for me ;) Jan 16 22:12:12 yeah, google is great... but you need to know what to google:) - I got the symbolic linking that way:) Jan 16 22:12:20 rm $* Jan 16 22:12:30 and google can't help you if you don't know what to search for Jan 16 22:13:09 I have just type ls $* to see what it would delete and it showed me every file in the directory - should I deffinatly rm-r that? Jan 16 22:13:47 I'd say no... Jan 16 22:14:10 lol.. thought not Jan 16 22:14:54 appears dollar means something, try ls \$8 Jan 16 22:15:00 ls \$* Jan 16 22:16:20 I take it with NTFS HDs you just get access to the full drive in Windows, and you cant share folders through the nslu2 site? Jan 16 22:16:46 you can access ext3 in windows using 3rd party apps Jan 16 22:17:03 I'm not sure, you're using unslung which I'm not familiar with Jan 16 22:17:07 its letting me browse the ext3 stuff straight away Jan 16 22:17:11 didnt install anything Jan 16 22:17:15 I am using Windows 7 tho Jan 16 22:17:30 doubt that would make a differance tho Jan 16 22:17:32 via the physical dirve? Jan 16 22:17:35 or over a network? Jan 16 22:17:39 over the network Jan 16 22:17:49 it would, samba makes it windows accessible Jan 16 22:17:53 :) Jan 16 22:18:01 told you Im a noob Jan 16 22:18:24 Im deleting a folder with a couple of VM images on it and the slug has compeltly locked up Jan 16 22:18:44 I take it the think doesnt overwrite it with 0's which would explain the delay, and instead it is just dead Jan 16 22:19:11 think* = thing Jan 16 22:21:36 is the folder on the NTFS drive? Jan 16 22:22:34 Known linksys problem: "The ntfs driver hangs the slug under medium to heavy write access. " (from the wiki) Jan 16 22:28:02 Should I be able to delete a directory with permission like this: -rwxrw---- Jan 16 22:28:17 depends on the owner/group Jan 16 22:28:32 any idea how I can find out? Jan 16 22:28:54 ls -al? Jan 16 22:28:57 (no ?) Jan 16 22:29:04 and is a transfer speed of 2.55 mb considered good, cos I think that sucks Jan 16 22:29:27 look on the wiki for preformance Jan 16 22:29:31 -rwxrw---- 1 guest everyone 2560 Mar 26 2008 $AttrDef Jan 16 22:29:35 RossD2, its not nicknamed "slug" for no reason Jan 16 22:29:47 ah lol Jan 16 22:29:49 ok:) Jan 16 22:30:04 but check the wiki for relative ness Jan 16 22:30:10 cat /proc/cpuinfo Jan 16 22:30:14 whats it say for bogusmips? Jan 16 22:30:57 BogoMIPS : 263.78 Jan 16 22:31:03 its not underclocked:) Jan 16 22:31:07 first think I checked:) Jan 16 22:31:09 aye Jan 16 22:31:37 grr, I just want to get rid of those directories Jan 17 00:06:55 win 2 Jan 17 00:06:56 gah **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 17 02:59:56 2009