**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 21 02:59:57 2009 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 21 04:28:46 2009 Jan 21 05:25:46 mwester-laptop: is it easy for me to compile a SlugOS 5.2-alpha version with Linux kernel 2.6.28? Jan 21 05:53:38 Can't say, really. I don't think it's been done before, so you'd have to create the bb recipe. Jan 21 05:55:41 mwester-laptop: yeah, I kind of was just wondeirng if it was a simple change in specifiying the kernel version or something, ya know? Jan 21 05:58:12 nope Jan 21 05:58:35 mwester-laptop: you know i'm a newb, what should I do about my audio issue? Jan 21 05:59:04 I have no idea what you should do about that... Jan 21 05:59:59 =( Jan 21 06:00:19 mwester-laptop: I've observed the issue doesn't arise on SlugOS 4.8 Jan 21 06:02:50 mwester-laptop: I have 3 drives connected to my DSM-G600, 1 HD via IDE, 1 HD via USB, and 1 Flash via USB, currently just the audio adapter and the flash drive are connected... when accessing the flash drive(root) on the DSM-G600 vis openssh-sftp no drop outs occur, but when accessing the IDE hard drive on the DSM-G600 via openssh-sftp drop outs do occur, drop-outs also occur when accessing the USB hard drive... does this informat Jan 21 06:02:50 any more hints as what I can try? Jan 21 06:04:09 strike that Jan 21 06:04:35 Try to put together a more comprehensive description of the issue, with all the of information you know -- send it to the mailing lists. Pertinent items that you need to mention would include: Jan 21 06:04:42 type of audio encoding Jan 21 06:04:50 errors in the dmesg or syslog Jan 21 06:04:52 it's not the easy Jan 21 06:04:56 there are no errors Jan 21 06:04:58 cpu consumption at the time Jan 21 06:05:03 i/o consumption Jan 21 06:05:13 cpu consumption is ~20% Jan 21 06:05:13 also try to set up benchmarks that isolate things Jan 21 06:05:19 don't answer here Jan 21 06:05:31 you need to try to understand the problem better. Jan 21 06:05:35 are others also using kernel 2.6.28? Jan 21 06:05:47 what does that have to do with anything? Jan 21 06:06:04 because it doesn't occur on SlugOS 4.8 which is using a different kernel Jan 21 06:06:24 you need to understand the problem you are encountering better. you have outlined some cases where it occurs, but you need to find out what is the *real* root cause. Jan 21 06:06:36 i don't know how to find otu the real root cause Jan 21 06:06:37 Is it high cpu usage? interrupts? i/o usage? Jan 21 06:06:51 get rid of the plethora of things you are using, Jan 21 06:06:58 it's all gone Jan 21 06:07:01 why does ssh get involved, for example? Jan 21 06:07:07 Is it sSH? Jan 21 06:07:14 or is it disk I/O? Jan 21 06:07:15 to upload files and such Jan 21 06:07:16 which? Jan 21 06:07:26 or is it the network? Jan 21 06:07:42 so use tools like bonnie++ or dd or iperf Jan 21 06:08:01 have some load on a single, specific thing happening, and find out which it is that causes the problem Jan 21 06:09:00 What about the encoding? (another area to search) -- do the dropouts happen if you just dd a file direct to the audio /dev/ device? Jan 21 06:09:37 I didn't know you could dd a file to /dev/dsp or such Jan 21 06:09:42 and one you can better define the problem, certain areas where problems may exist will be apparent. Jan 21 06:10:15 I think I can define the issue, but I'm not sure Jan 21 06:10:25 the root cause is another issue though Jan 21 06:11:54 Well, give it a try. And make sure that when you present the issue on the mailing list that you present sufficient info for someone to be able to very easily test it on whatever system they have handy -- otherwise nobody will bother. Jan 21 06:12:19 I'm not going to be around much, so email is really the only good means to get a wider audience on the issue you Jan 21 06:12:25 are dealing with. Jan 21 06:12:41 it's late - must sleep; have an early meeting in the morning! Jan 21 06:13:12 ok, i'll try using SlugOS 4.8 instead, thanks Jan 21 06:14:33 or perhaps I'll donate my DSM-G600 to charity because it's pretty useless ATM Jan 21 11:35:10 hi all, anyone know if there is an old versions archive ? Jan 21 11:39:09 old version of what? Jan 21 11:42:37 asterisk .ipk Jan 21 12:16:30 hi! Jan 21 12:32:52 ~/away Jan 21 12:33:13 :| Jan 21 14:06:57 how do i turn on services in /opt/ at boot time? slugosbe Jan 21 14:50:00 * chrisb now has snmpd running on slugosbe Jan 21 16:39:06 greetings room Jan 21 16:39:44 after flashing my slug with unslung 6.10 i have trouble managing telnet vie the web ui Jan 21 16:39:53 *via Jan 21 16:41:08 when i click "manage telnet" i get the message that an authentication is required Jan 21 16:41:24 root/uNSLUng doesn't work Jan 21 16:41:28 any help? Jan 21 16:44:28 admin/admin Jan 21 16:44:31 did the trick Jan 21 16:44:38 oh man Jan 21 16:44:42 thanks anyways Jan 21 17:07:02 how do i turn on services in /opt/ at boot time? Jan 21 17:07:07 on slugosbe Jan 21 17:11:34 chrisb: there should be an /etc/init.d/optware that starting /opt/etc/init.d/S[0-9][0-9]* Jan 21 17:12:05 eno: thanks, i'll go check Jan 21 17:13:06 /etc/init.d/optware got symlinked as /etc/rc/S98optware Jan 21 17:21:46 eno: no, no files in /etc/init.d or /etc/rc Jan 21 17:22:18 in fact, none in /etc/rc* either Jan 21 17:25:48 ok, that may be because optware setup was manual, so no postinst done Jan 21 17:27:56 eno: where can i take a look at the contents of that file? is it in an optware distribution somewhere? Jan 21 17:28:09 http://trac.nslu2-linux.org/optware/browser/trunk/sources/ipkg-opt/rc.optware Jan 21 17:31:58 eno: wow! thanks Jan 21 17:33:13 i don't have my slugosbe up right now Jan 21 17:33:31 that file may have already been installed under /opt/etc Jan 21 17:38:00 i can't seem to update or upgrade Jan 21 17:38:27 # ipkg update Jan 21 17:38:27 Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/cross/stable/Packages.gz Jan 21 17:38:27 wget: ipkg.nslu2-linux.org: Host name lookup failure Jan 21 17:38:28 Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/native/stable/Packages.gz Jan 21 17:38:28 wget: ipkg.nslu2-linux.org: Host name lookup failure Jan 21 17:38:28 Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/modules/cross/stable/Packages.gz Jan 21 17:38:30 wget: ipkg.nslu2-linux.org: Host name lookup failure Jan 21 17:38:32 An error ocurred, return value: 3. Jan 21 17:38:34 Collected errors: Jan 21 17:38:36 ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-k0y0ZY http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/cross/stable/Packages.gz' Jan 21 17:38:39 ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-k0y0ZY http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/native/stable/Packages.gz' Jan 21 17:38:42 ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-k0y0ZY http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/modules/cross/stable/Packages.gz' Jan 21 17:38:45 # Jan 21 17:38:47 ipkg update Jan 21 17:38:49 Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/cross/stable/Packages.gz Jan 21 17:38:50 can you try wget anything? Jan 21 17:38:51 wget: ipkg.nslu2-linux.org: Host name lookup failure Jan 21 17:38:54 oops Jan 21 17:38:56 sorry Jan 21 17:39:13 sounds like a network setup problem Jan 21 17:39:25 look at your /etc/resolv.conf Jan 21 17:39:43 i am a bloody noob Jan 21 17:40:17 type "ping www.google.com" do you get any response back? Jan 21 17:40:29 hold on Jan 21 17:40:50 ping: www.google.com: Host name lookup failure Jan 21 17:40:53 so network Jan 21 17:41:00 yeah Jan 21 17:41:19 where should i start? Jan 21 17:41:59 do i have to forward ports or somehting? Jan 21 17:42:46 name server(s) can be setup on the web UI Jan 21 17:43:03 it ended up in /etc/resolv.conf Jan 21 17:43:33 copy the name server setting on your other PC to the web UI Jan 21 17:43:54 administration>lan Jan 21 17:44:25 probably, i don't have access to the web UI easily right now Jan 21 17:44:35 ah ok Jan 21 17:44:57 so i have to set the dns server, right? Jan 21 17:45:04 * Vandal is a eal noob Jan 21 17:45:07 *real Jan 21 17:45:13 yeah, definitely Jan 21 17:45:33 what do you use for IRC, a windows machine? Jan 21 17:46:14 if so, open a "cmd prompt", type "ipconfig" Jan 21 17:46:44 "ipconfig /all" Jan 21 17:46:50 my router/dns is 192.168.2.1 Jan 21 17:46:56 it should show you the DNS servers Jan 21 17:46:56 i am on a mac Jan 21 17:47:07 that's even better Jan 21 17:47:46 look at the network setting of your mac Jan 21 17:47:53 done Jan 21 17:48:00 i can ping google Jan 21 17:48:06 now for the upgrade Jan 21 17:48:15 from your mac, or from your slug? Jan 21 17:48:40 from the slug Jan 21 17:48:49 great Jan 21 17:48:53 but damn, how do i stop terminal from pinging google now? Jan 21 17:48:54 you're closer Jan 21 17:48:54 haha Jan 21 17:49:01 ctrl-c Jan 21 17:49:09 thanks Jan 21 17:49:25 update worked Jan 21 17:49:45 ipkg upgrade Jan 21 17:49:45 Nothing to be done Jan 21 17:50:14 that's because for the packages you've installed, there's no newer version Jan 21 17:50:17 Installing bash (3.2.33-1) to root... Jan 21 17:50:20 wheeeee Jan 21 17:50:22 haha Jan 21 17:50:25 thanks a ton man Jan 21 17:50:27 try "ipkg install less" Jan 21 17:50:42 "ipkg | less" Jan 21 17:51:05 whats that? Jan 21 17:51:08 get familiar with ipkg usage Jan 21 17:53:16 ah nice Jan 21 17:54:18 i would also install "openssh man sudo screen coreutils procps htop" Jan 21 17:55:05 setup openssh server and disable telnet Jan 21 17:56:22 yeah Jan 21 17:56:27 read about that safety issue Jan 21 18:00:58 so if i connect to my harddrive via smb, it doesn't matter what filesystem it is? Jan 21 18:02:16 you mount your harddrive on your slug, and share it via samba Jan 21 18:02:38 i had trouble accessing my hfs+ formatted harddrive Jan 21 18:02:50 on the original linksys fw Jan 21 18:03:15 web ui told me t wasnt formatted Jan 21 18:03:16 ok, there might be limitation of what you can do with hfs+ harddrive Jan 21 18:03:43 especially on linksys fw and unslung, since it's pretty old 2.4 kernel Jan 21 18:03:51 i might have to format a partition to ext3? Jan 21 18:04:07 ext3 is the most supported native file system Jan 21 18:04:19 i'll look into that Jan 21 18:04:39 have to setup time machine with that NAS will be a pain in the ass anyways Jan 21 18:05:08 not sure if i can have one partition as hfs+ and the other one as ext3 Jan 21 18:22:41 damn Jan 21 18:23:14 i changed the textcolor for terminal once i am logged in to unslung Jan 21 18:23:20 can't read shit Jan 21 18:23:24 help Jan 21 19:22:47 after installing openssh Jan 21 19:23:12 how do i ssh into my slug? Jan 21 19:42:38 how do i use the web ui for transmission? Jan 21 19:49:56 About ssh, if you use linux, just type "ssh @IP_slug" Jan 21 19:50:02 In a console Jan 21 19:50:37 If you use windows, then donzload Putty, you will have to know IP of your slug, and then connect it Jan 21 19:51:35 i get a bus error Jan 21 19:51:47 What is the message? Jan 21 19:52:07 Bus error Jan 21 19:52:25 What did you type? Jan 21 19:53:02 ssh@192.168.2.x Jan 21 19:53:12 Hum no :) Jan 21 19:53:20 marcel Jan 21 19:53:23 Type "ssh 192.168.2.x" Jan 21 19:53:25 deutsch? Jan 21 19:53:35 französish Jan 21 19:53:42 oh ok Jan 21 19:54:24 mem truc Jan 21 19:54:27 *meme Jan 21 19:54:30 :) Jan 21 19:54:33 i get the bus error again Jan 21 19:54:47 i don't really mind Jan 21 19:55:05 i can just switch telnet on and off if i have to Jan 21 19:55:12 Well, try ssh IP -l username Jan 21 19:55:30 No, keep telnet until ssh works Jan 21 19:55:42 If you turn it off, you won't be able to use it Jan 21 19:55:54 To use your slug, i mean Jan 21 19:56:18 ssh 192.168.2.x -|root? Jan 21 19:56:34 Add a space between -l and root Jan 21 19:56:44 It's -l like L Jan 21 19:56:48 Not i Jan 21 19:56:51 haha Jan 21 19:56:52 okay Jan 21 19:56:55 ;) Jan 21 19:57:41 ssh 192.168.2.x -l root Jan 21 19:57:41 Bus error Jan 21 19:57:55 i am on a mac Jan 21 19:58:06 connected to the network via wifi Jan 21 19:58:13 if that matters Jan 21 19:58:31 But, do you replace your .x at the end of your ip, but a number? Jan 21 19:58:38 hehe Jan 21 19:58:40 yeah Jan 21 19:58:42 Hum no, your mac should be ok Jan 21 19:58:43 10 Jan 21 19:58:45 :) Jan 21 19:58:52 Can you ping it? Jan 21 19:58:56 whyever i thought i have to censor my slugs ip Jan 21 19:59:02 let me try Jan 21 19:59:15 yep Jan 21 19:59:20 Ah, well, connect on your slug with telnet, i guess ssh isn't launched yet Jan 21 19:59:48 oh okay Jan 21 19:59:50 yeah Jan 21 19:59:53 that might be Jan 21 20:00:07 Does /etc/init.d exists? Jan 21 20:00:16 is it possible to launch openssh and transmission etc. on reboot? Jan 21 20:00:20 YEs Jan 21 20:00:36 it exists Jan 21 20:00:57 Ok, you should see sshd and maybe transmission inside, right? Jan 21 20:01:22 * Vandal is such a commandline noob Jan 21 20:01:34 ls /etc/init.d/* Jan 21 20:01:35 cd /etc/init.d? Jan 21 20:01:51 Yes, you can use cd, and typing ls when you are in the folder Jan 21 20:02:09 root@SLUG:/> ls Jan 21 20:02:09 ipkg-configure Jan 21 20:02:24 That's all? Jan 21 20:02:38 Try ls /usr/etc/init.d Jan 21 20:02:46 Try ls /usr/etc/init.d/* Jan 21 20:03:06 eno: I don't know where are launch scripts in unslung Jan 21 20:03:15 ls: /usr/etc/init.d/*: No such file or directory Jan 21 20:03:23 hehe ^^ Jan 21 20:03:31 Ok, just reboot it so Jan 21 20:03:43 sync Jan 21 20:03:45 reboot Jan 21 20:03:48 the slug should starting all new services you installed before Jan 21 20:03:56 Just type reboo Jan 21 20:03:57 Just type reboot Jan 21 20:04:11 ok cool Jan 21 20:04:21 is it normal that my slug takes ages to reboot Jan 21 20:04:21 Do you use unslung or slugos? Jan 21 20:04:25 unslung Jan 21 20:04:27 I think yes Jan 21 20:04:33 oh an btw Jan 21 20:04:40 how the fuck come you speak english? Jan 21 20:04:48 hahahah, french dont speak english Jan 21 20:04:51 Why? Jan 21 20:04:58 what is wrong with you? ;) Jan 21 20:05:15 hehe Jan 21 20:05:18 just kidding Jan 21 20:05:44 Maybe english is your nationnal language? 0:) Jan 21 20:06:03 i learned french in school for like 7 years Jan 21 20:06:10 lived in paris for a year Jan 21 20:06:14 Nice Jan 21 20:06:19 i still can't write french Jan 21 20:06:24 i can speak Jan 21 20:06:29 Going in a country is the best way to leanr a language Jan 21 20:06:30 but written french, no way Jan 21 20:06:48 where you from? Jan 21 20:06:54 France Jan 21 20:07:01 Hum, near paris Jan 21 20:07:03 whereabouts? Jan 21 20:07:06 ah ok Jan 21 20:07:29 * Vandal is smalltalking to let the slug reboot Jan 21 20:07:32 ha Jan 21 20:07:55 You're right, the slug will reboot faster then :) Jan 21 20:08:26 What i transmission? Jan 21 20:08:31 What is* Jan 21 20:08:35 torrentclient Jan 21 20:08:40 Ah ok Jan 21 20:08:44 or is there a better option? Jan 21 20:08:53 i used transmission on the mac, and read it had a webui Jan 21 20:09:09 still cant seem to find a decent how-to Jan 21 20:10:02 Did you found the howto on nslu2-linux.org? Jan 21 20:10:23 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Transmission Jan 21 20:10:26 ? Jan 21 20:10:28 ok Jan 21 20:10:29 YEs Jan 21 20:10:46 4) forward port 51413 to NAS Jan 21 20:10:57 stuck there Jan 21 20:11:04 i guess in my router, eh? Jan 21 20:11:08 Right Jan 21 20:11:25 You open a port and you link it on your slug's ip Jan 21 20:11:31 so forward port 51413 to my slugs ip? Jan 21 20:11:37 oh okay Jan 21 20:12:10 i'll try that Jan 21 20:12:22 aaand it's back Jan 21 20:12:34 telnet enabled Jan 21 20:12:58 still getting the bus error Jan 21 20:14:12 i think i still have to start openssh Jan 21 20:14:41 Just 30s Jan 21 20:15:38 Hum it seems yes Jan 21 20:16:20 how do i do that? Jan 21 20:17:13 Ok, type "sshd &" Jan 21 20:17:22 And try to connect Jan 21 20:17:44 bash: sshd: command not found Jan 21 20:17:53 Are you sure you have installed it? Jan 21 20:18:22 openssh Jan 21 20:18:33 Ye Jan 21 20:19:03 root@SLUG:/> ipkg install openssh Jan 21 20:19:04 Package openssh (5.1p1-1) installed in root is up to date. Jan 21 20:19:04 Nothing to be done Jan 21 20:19:04 [1]+ Exit 127 sshd Jan 21 20:19:05 No, i think it should be openssh-sshd Jan 21 20:19:18 Ah, so try to connect on your slug now Jan 21 20:19:35 It means sshd have been launched in background Jan 21 20:19:51 And your slug may be reachable. Jan 21 20:20:16 can i ssh from telnet? Jan 21 20:20:28 No, ssh from your mac :) Jan 21 20:20:51 Do you know the difference between ssh ans telnet? Jan 21 20:20:55 still the same bus error Jan 21 20:20:59 yeah kinda Jan 21 20:21:04 Ok Jan 21 20:21:06 i am jsut in terminal Jan 21 20:21:36 And go on your slug terminal Jan 21 20:21:43 Type ssh 127.0.0.1 Jan 21 20:21:54 In order to see if the slug can ssh itself Jan 21 20:22:04 And checking if ssh is really working or not Jan 21 20:22:11 slug terminal? Jan 21 20:22:19 Yes, connect o you slug with telnet Jan 21 20:22:34 And type the command: ssh 127.0.0.1 Jan 21 20:22:43 root@SLUG:/> ssh 127.0.0.1 Jan 21 20:22:43 bash: ssh: command not found Jan 21 20:22:55 Weird.. Jan 21 20:23:30 root@SLUG:/> ipkg install bash Jan 21 20:23:31 Package bash (3.2.33-1) installed in root is up to date. Jan 21 20:23:31 Nothing to be done Jan 21 20:23:52 Ah, i think the PATH isn't complete Jan 21 20:24:06 oh ok Jan 21 20:24:19 You should find ssh command in /usr/bin Jan 21 20:24:28 Or maybe /opt/usr/bin Jan 21 20:24:43 I don't know, because i never used unslung Jan 21 20:24:49 ok Jan 21 20:24:54 i appreciate the help man Jan 21 20:25:00 But check there if ssh exists? Jan 21 20:25:10 so cd /usr/bin ? Jan 21 20:25:17 Yes, and type ls Jan 21 20:25:47 no ssh in there Jan 21 20:25:50 Set_Led head quotaon Jan 21 20:25:50 [ hexdump smbmnt Jan 21 20:25:50 [[ id smbmount Jan 21 20:25:50 basename ipkg sort Jan 21 20:25:51 bunzip2 ipkg-cl strings Jan 21 20:25:51 bzcat ipkg-fl tail Jan 21 20:25:52 cut killall tee Jan 21 20:25:54 dirname md5sum test Jan 21 20:25:56 Ok Jan 21 20:25:56 dos2unix mke2fs uniq Jan 21 20:25:58 du mkfifo unix2dos Jan 21 20:26:00 edquota mkfs.ext3 unzip Jan 21 20:26:02 env nc update-alternatives Jan 21 20:26:02 Don't paste on irc Jan 21 20:26:04 expr passwd wget Jan 21 20:26:06 find quotacheck Jan 21 20:26:08 free quotaoff Jan 21 20:26:34 and in /usr/sbin? Jan 21 20:26:50 Or maybe just in /bin or /sbin Jan 21 20:27:28 Oh Jan 21 20:27:36 No, check in /opt/bin Jan 21 20:27:46 Doc refers to sshd around there Jan 21 20:28:17 Ahve you read that? http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseOpenSSHForRemoteAccess Jan 21 20:28:45 coreutils-head grodvi ssh Jan 21 20:28:45 coreutils-hostid groff ssh-add Jan 21 20:28:45 coreutils-id groffer ssh-agent Jan 21 20:28:45 coreutils-install grog ssh-keygen Jan 21 20:28:46 coreutils-join grolbp ssh-keyscan Jan 21 20:28:54 there it is Jan 21 20:28:59 Yes Jan 21 20:29:17 still cant type the command though Jan 21 20:29:18 Type /opt/bin/ssh 127.0.0.1 Jan 21 20:29:42 The authenticity of host '127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1)' can't be established. Jan 21 20:29:43 RSA key fingerprint is bf:d1:e4:76:68:51:f9:f6:2d:cf:03:22:17:d4:62:cf. Jan 21 20:29:43 Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? Jan 21 20:29:53 Ok, yes, enter your password, etc Jan 21 20:30:17 done Jan 21 20:30:19 works Jan 21 20:30:39 Now, from your mac, try again to connect ssh. If still don't works, so the problem is your mac, and not the slug Jan 21 20:30:54 Maybe you need to install ssh on your mac too Jan 21 20:31:12 nah Jan 21 20:31:15 it's on there Jan 21 20:31:19 ok Jan 21 20:31:22 but i still get the bus error Jan 21 20:31:23 man Jan 21 20:31:28 fuck it Jan 21 20:31:35 telnet it is Jan 21 20:31:44 for installing and whatnot Jan 21 20:32:08 i will disable telnet after i installed everything and set it up Jan 21 20:32:30 A bus error is an issue from your mac, sorry :s Jan 21 20:32:52 ok cool Jan 21 20:33:13 See on google what's the matter, you should find some help Jan 21 20:33:19 nd answers Jan 21 20:33:27 will do. say, what type of file format do you have for your nas? Jan 21 20:33:47 I was using ext3 Jan 21 20:34:00 ah ok Jan 21 20:34:09