**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 18 02:59:57 2009
Feb 18 13:29:24 <m0cka> hello there
Feb 18 13:30:51 <m0cka> whenever I try to install libiconv (ipkg install libiconv), I get an error that says it cannot find package libiconv. Do anyone know what I should do?
Feb 18 15:23:38 <Reedy> I cant remember where the wiki page is/what its called...
Feb 18 15:23:48 <Reedy> Anyone know how to backup the nslu2 flash?
Feb 18 15:25:33 <Reedy> oh
Feb 18 15:25:33 <Reedy> cat /dev/mtdblock* > /var/tmp/flash_backup.bin
Feb 19 00:06:15 <marsuf> When I connect to my nslu2 it says RUNNING FROM INTERNAL FLASH.
Feb 19 00:06:36 <marsuf> I have been using it for 2 years without problems
Feb 19 00:07:13 <marsuf> If I connect and I do a ls /proc/hdd_* I don't see any drive.
Feb 19 00:07:36 <marsuf> The light of disk2 blinks on the nslu2
Feb 19 00:08:49 <marsuf> In the web administration doesn't appear any disk on USB Port 2 (Public Data)
Feb 19 00:09:17 <marsuf> The disk is ok, I have tested it on my pc with a Ubuntu distribution.
Feb 19 00:10:01 <marsuf> What can I do?
Feb 19 00:13:05 <Reedy> are you on unslung but havent unslung to a disk?
Feb 19 00:13:20 <Reedy> or you had, and now its not working and running from flash?
Feb 19 00:13:31 <marsuf> the second case
Feb 19 00:13:53 <Reedy> rebooted it?
Feb 19 00:13:56 <marsuf> yes
Feb 19 00:14:19 <marsuf> I have done a lot of probes (several days, and I have read a lot of web pages).
Feb 19 00:14:40 <marsuf>  but not luck
Feb 19 00:15:09 <marsuf> I am thinking if it is a hardware problem of the nslu2
Feb 19 00:18:55 <marsuf> If I do a ls /proc/hdd*, does the disk must appear altough it has booted from the internal flash memory?
Feb 19 00:19:25 <Reedy> it should do if the device can detect it
Feb 19 00:20:00 <marsuf> It was working for more than a year. It doesn't appear now.
Feb 19 00:20:24 <marsuf> It is detacted on the kernel boot, not?
Feb 19 00:20:39 <Reedy> not a clue
Feb 19 00:23:18 <marsuf> I am using the disk connected directly to the nslu2. Can be degrated the power supply?
Feb 19 00:23:32 <marsuf> the power supply of the nslu2
Feb 19 00:24:00 <Frigolit> the disk is powered by the nslu2's power supply?
Feb 19 00:24:40 <Frigolit> ie. it doesn't have it's own power supply?
Feb 19 00:25:09 <marsuf> it is powered by the nslu02 power supply
Feb 19 00:25:56 <Frigolit> hm~ well if you have the tools you could measure the amount of power from one of the USB-ports, if you have one free when the disk is connected to see if the power supply can't provide enough power for the disk
Feb 19 00:26:12 <Frigolit> i remember hearing that many power supplies could fail in some ways
Feb 19 00:26:15 <marsuf> I have a voltimeter
Feb 19 00:26:35 <Frigolit> well you gotta know the right pins too
Feb 19 00:26:45 <Frigolit> you could also try inserting a USB memory stick instead
Feb 19 00:26:55 <Frigolit> as they use a lot less power and see if it turns up
Feb 19 00:27:44 <marsuf> I have never used a memory stick on nslu2. Do I insert it with the nslu2 switched off?
Feb 19 00:29:35 <marsuf> I will switch it off (I have used only the nslu2 for unslung for web/print/svn/smb server).
Feb 19 00:34:01 <Frigolit> yes, when it's switched off
Feb 19 00:34:58 <Frigolit> it works just like your USB harddrive, except we're only gonna use it to check if it pops up in /proc/hdd* (shouldn't this be /dev/sd* btw?)
Feb 19 00:35:35 <marsuf> It has poped on proc as /proc/hdd_sdb
Feb 19 00:35:49 <Frigolit> okay, that's good
Feb 19 00:35:58 <Frigolit> now unplug it, check if it disappears
Feb 19 00:36:03 <Frigolit> and then plug in your harddrive again
Feb 19 00:36:11 <marsuf> on the web administration page says:
Feb 19 00:36:23 <marsuf> USB Port 1: Not Formatted (pen drive)
Feb 19 00:36:34 <Frigolit> makes sense
Feb 19 00:36:35 <marsuf> USBB Port 2: Not Installed (hard disk)
Feb 19 00:36:49 <Frigolit> eh?
Feb 19 00:36:57 <Frigolit> wouldn't that mean it has found the disk?
Feb 19 00:37:15 <Frigolit> oh wait, don't mind me
Feb 19 00:37:37 <Frigolit> it doesn't actually know what is plugged into the ports
Feb 19 00:37:47 <Frigolit> i'm guessing at least
Feb 19 00:40:12 <marsuf> I have plugged the pen drive on both ports. It recognizes the pen drive (hdd and light of the nslu2 lights).
Feb 19 00:40:25 <marsuf> When I plug the hard-disk nothing happens
Feb 19 00:40:41 <marsuf> I think that I will try other power-supply
Feb 19 00:41:30 <marsuf> two/three years 24x7 has been to much for this little machine.
Feb 19 00:44:14 <mwester> You must use self-powered disk devices with the NSLU2; the provided power supply is too weak and will fail eventually, or will fail immediately in some cases.
Feb 19 00:45:17 <mwester> Probably your disk is good (just old, and maybe takes a bit more power to start than it used to), and the NSLU2 is also good.  The NSLU2 power supply may have weakened also.
Feb 19 00:54:34 <marsuf> I have searched and I didn't found a power supply compatible. I think I will buy a new power supply more potent for the nslu2.
Feb 19 00:54:37 <marsuf> thank you
Feb 19 00:55:07 <marsuf> the hard-disk drains less of 500mA (it is a samsung disk).
Feb 19 00:56:16 <mwester> marsuf:  The 500 ma is a "typical" rating, and refers to consumption when the disk is up and running.  Usually a 500ma disk will take up to 1000ma when it tries to start, in order to spin up the disk itself.
Feb 19 00:56:38 <mwester> When it cannot get that amount of current, then usually the disk will just appear to fail, and will not appear present to the NSLU2.
Feb 19 01:01:48 <marsuf> it is a 2.5 disk, and this model is less of 500 ma wheren it starts.
Feb 19 01:02:13 <marsuf> wheren=when
Feb 19 01:03:01 <mwester> marsuf:  please check the specs for your vendor.  For example, the Samsung Spinpoint M60 2.5 " disk, according to the tech specs published by Samsung, consumes 900ma starting current.
Feb 19 01:03:25 <marsuf> I have checked it on the past.
Feb 19 01:03:39 <mwester> Whatever.
Feb 19 01:04:37 <marsuf> I has been working for two/three years, and it appears that the power supply of nslu2 has weakened (they aren't very reliable).
Feb 19 01:05:17 <mwester> marsuf:  model # of your disk?
Feb 19 01:08:30 <marsuf> <SAMSUNG, HM100JC,YN10> says on my NetBSD, iwill try to find the model
Feb 19 01:09:14 <marsuf> it is a m60 ???
Feb 19 01:14:08 <marsuf> Reading the power requeriments must be 900 mamperios
Feb 19 01:16:56 <marsuf> I have bad memory, mwester: you were right,
Feb 19 01:16:59 <marsuf> bye
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