**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 13 02:59:57 2009 Mar 13 13:50:30 hello there guys Mar 13 13:50:34 after soldering a port Mar 13 13:51:06 i was able to see the error after EXT-3 fs mounted filesystem with ordered data mode Mar 13 13:51:11 i get a kernel panic Mar 13 13:51:22 not syncing attempeted to kill init Mar 13 13:56:09 still after it boots slugos from the flash i can get to the disk Mar 13 13:56:11 strange Mar 13 14:04:12 Not strange at all. Turnup switches to use the external disk as the rootfs right after the kernel loads. You've corrupted your install on the external disk by mixing the package feeds. You'll need to start over. Mar 13 14:17:27 mwester then when i stick to opkg i cannot use ipkg and vice versa?? Mar 13 14:18:03 The wiki and mailing list describe how this works. Mar 13 14:19:12 Use the built-in tool to install and configure the correct ipkg utility and the slugos5 optware feeds. Attempting to use any other feeds, or any other way to do it may risk running into disaster. Mar 13 14:20:04 rsff2: you really might like to follow this guide to do your SlugOS install: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/SlugOS/InstallandTurnupABasicSlugOSSystem Mar 13 14:20:20 If you do that, you will run into fewer problems, and it will be more likely that people can offer help. Mar 13 14:20:31 mwester that was what i did Mar 13 14:20:39 and in the end enabled the optional Mar 13 14:20:59 setup-optware Mar 13 14:21:00 No, you posted something very different with your feeds yesterday. Mar 13 14:21:19 haa Mar 13 14:21:22 yeah Mar 13 14:21:26 You posted a url to a non-slugos5 feed, and installed that, and then your system dies. Mar 13 14:21:34 You can't do that. Mar 13 14:21:48 SlugOS 5 is EABI, and any mixing of stuff is dangerous. Mar 13 14:22:28 well ate least now i know Mar 13 14:22:29 the optware mechanism is the only safe way to mix feeds, and it is limited to the specific slugos5 feeds that are installed with that setup optware script. Mar 13 14:33:34 Hey! Mar 13 14:37:33 about the swapfile Mar 13 14:37:38 what should be ideal size?? Mar 13 14:37:48 128M?? Mar 13 14:38:31 No reason to make it bigger than 32MB Mar 13 14:38:43 ok Mar 13 14:41:06 one thing that i noticed was that opkgh packages are older than its counterpart ipkg Mar 13 14:47:21 yep Mar 13 15:06:09 what about that error that i was having before the slug died,wa it related to the "mixie" thing Mar 13 15:06:21 after instaling packages was complaing abouut could not open Mar 13 15:09:25 Hmm... I'm thinking of buying a NSL2 for some irssi/torrent use and I need to decide what OS I should flash. I think unslung is pretty good since it preservers the webui. So unslung has ssh access, right? Mar 13 15:13:43 joppu yeah Mar 13 15:22:58 So I can use a 1GB memory stick as system disc and a 100GB USB HDD for data/download storage? Mar 13 15:23:27 And I can like, leave the irssi session running in a screen? Mar 13 15:54:34 to update openssh Mar 13 15:54:38 can i use like nc Mar 13 15:54:47 and update or can i update directly?? Mar 13 15:55:04 since ive read that sometimes errors can arise Mar 13 15:55:13 and i no not want to start over Mar 13 15:55:14 :X Mar 13 15:57:08 why would you want to update openssh? Is it broken? Mar 13 15:57:35 And there should not be an openssh in the opkg feeds, there have been no updates in the past week! Mar 13 16:03:30 no.. nothing is broken just going wiith the mantra "newer has bug fixes" Mar 13 16:03:32 lol Mar 13 16:04:12 It's astonishing how Microsoft has brainwashed even linux people into bad behavior. Mar 13 16:04:36 updating=bad behavior? Mar 13 16:05:15 Untested and unstaged updates are never done in any well-run data center. Mar 13 16:06:05 Even the most urgent security patches get tested, and backups made before the patch or update is installed. Mar 13 16:06:18 mwester why do u say its micro fault?? Mar 13 16:06:41 from a security perspective isnīt that safer?? Mar 13 16:07:27 Because I believe it was Microsoft's "first-tuesday-of-the-month" patch releases with the windows "on-by-default" auto-installer that encouraged people to start to think that they should blindly install any updates fed to them. Mar 13 16:07:38 From a security perspective, it is a TERRIBLE plan. Mar 13 16:08:30 Consider if I can put a trojan on the web -- if nobody actually tests it, or waits for feedback, then before it is noticed that I have placed a trojan in the feeds I will have gained access to hundreds, if not thousands of systems. Mar 13 16:09:03 All because people think "Oh look! an update! I have no idea what it does, or what it fixes, but I shalll download it and install it anyway! O Goody!" Mar 13 16:09:33 yes but ur assuming that the attcak vector is the feeds Mar 13 16:10:09 but yeah i get your point Mar 13 16:10:26 In real life -- the far bigger problem is that person X fixes a minor bug, and puts the fixed package out. I see the update, and I add it to the feeds. You download it, install it, and discover that the minor fix creates a major problem that wipes out your database and destroys your system. Now you are unhappy, and blame me. Mar 13 16:11:03 well arent security update inportant? Mar 13 16:11:10 like in browsers? Mar 13 16:11:20 So the rule is, for EVERYONE even Windows users: Update ONLY if you have a backup, and then it is best to update ONLY if you have the problem that is being fixed with the updates. Mar 13 16:11:32 joppu_: Yes, but only if you have a backup. Mar 13 16:11:43 ok Mar 13 16:12:35 But I'll challenge you to check your systems (linux and windows) updaters -- are they ONLY offering you security updates, or are they pushing ordinary changes on you as well? Mar 13 16:13:01 both ill say Mar 13 16:13:25 BTW, just so you know -- I currently hold the record for the longest running Unslung NSLU2 -- at well over a year without rebooting. That was done by careful management, including managing the updates. :) Mar 13 16:13:38 uuu Mar 13 16:13:49 mwester u r the man Mar 13 16:13:52 :) Mar 13 16:14:28 i need to make a cable because my ups doenst have the normal socket Mar 13 16:15:42 btw why did u shut it down??? Mar 13 16:15:47 energi failure?? Mar 13 16:15:52 energy Mar 13 16:16:10 or is still in the record? Mar 13 16:16:40 The UPS powering it failed. Mar 13 16:16:41 :( Mar 13 16:18:50 about the diferent firmwares for NSLU2 any hints u want to share? Mar 13 16:18:55 i already tried unlsug Mar 13 16:18:58 but to limited Mar 13 16:19:00 i think Mar 13 16:19:05 the gui is nice Mar 13 16:19:10 but.. Mar 13 16:19:22 now playing around with slugosbe Mar 13 16:19:39 I rather like SlugOS, but I am biased. Mar 13 16:19:58 :) Mar 13 16:20:02 * mwester is the release manager for Unslung and SlugOS Mar 13 16:20:42 So I may not be completely unbiased when comparing to OpenWRT or Debian.... Mar 13 16:21:14 im trying to build OpenWRT for linksys WAG354G Mar 13 16:21:21 but it proves to be a pain in the ass Mar 13 16:21:23 LOl Mar 13 16:21:46 Actually, I hear that a lot of people prefer the OpenWRT build system compared to OE. Mar 13 16:23:27 never played around too much whit embedde systems Mar 13 16:23:36 besides putting netbsd on the slug Mar 13 16:24:21 but it doesn t has the support the slugos or unslug has Mar 13 16:24:29 obviosly Mar 13 16:25:05 btw just to be shure sometimes i get opkg-hgdshg Mar 13 16:25:10 can i safely remove that Mar 13 16:25:26 i read something about ipkg leaving emptys dir Mar 13 16:25:33 but this is opkg Mar 13 16:25:46 opkg leaves empty dirs in root's home directory Mar 13 16:25:52 delete them. Mar 13 16:27:52 i think everything is nice Mar 13 16:27:58 lets see brb Mar 13 16:28:10 ircing from the slug weeeeeee Mar 13 16:30:59 :) Mar 13 17:05:05 mwester having the same trouble as yesterday damn Mar 13 17:05:07 checking for adns_init in -ladns... no Mar 13 17:05:08 configure: error: at least one dnsresolver has to work Mar 13 17:05:22 and already installed adns Mar 13 17:06:17 it was because of this package that i messed up thing Mar 13 17:06:18 hihih Mar 13 17:53:54 using another feed is dangerous so how can i workaround this limitation? Mar 13 17:54:06 searching but no luck **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 14 02:59:57 2009