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Jan 15 12:54:13 <HRH_H_Crab> hmmm.
Jan 15 12:54:24 <HRH_H_Crab> my debian unstable slug doesnt appear to be very well.
Jan 15 12:54:48 <HRH_H_Crab> got a oops doing "du . -sh" and it has not come back after a reboot.
Jan 15 14:42:11 <Mysterious> Hello
Jan 15 14:43:38 <Mysterious> I want to set up a little server on my nslu2 but I don't know which distribution to choose
Jan 15 14:45:03 <Mysterious> The most important thing is the performance during ftp downloads and samba server uploads
Jan 15 15:03:14 <chrisb> is the syslogd in slugosbe the BSD syslogd or something with fewer features
Jan 15 15:04:48 <Mysterious> yay at least a talking person. but sry i can't help^^
Jan 15 15:05:40 <Mysterious> Could you recommend a Distribution for the slug?
Jan 15 15:09:37 <chrisb> Mysterious: slugosbe is what I use
Jan 15 15:09:54 <Mysterious> is it a fast os?
Jan 15 15:10:16 <chrisb> Mysterious: i don't think so
Jan 15 15:10:53 <chrisb> Mysterious: but it does not slow down the file transport over the network
Jan 15 15:11:01 <Mysterious> ok^^
Jan 15 15:11:26 <chrisb> Mysterious: so streaming video and music are fine as long as the network is running at 10M/s or greater
Jan 15 15:11:30 <Mysterious> chrisb: might unslug be a good choice. i read the kernel was old
Jan 15 15:12:26 <chrisb> Mysterious: sure, unslung is good
Jan 15 15:13:01 <chrisb> Mysterious: what's your goal?
Jan 15 15:14:33 <Mysterious> chrisb: i want to set up a storage server which i can access from windows (samba or ...). i would like to set up a internet apache/mysql/ftp server
Jan 15 15:15:27 <HRH_H_Crab> Mysterious: i would reccommend debian
Jan 15 15:16:10 <Mysterious> HRH_H_Crab: I thought it ran too slow on nslu...
Jan 15 15:16:11 <HRH_H_Crab> but i think its important that you recognise that a slug has limitations - no distro can make it perform like a "normal" machine.
Jan 15 15:16:41 <HRH_H_Crab> well, ive only really tried angstrom and debian.
Jan 15 15:16:48 <HRH_H_Crab> angstrom doesnt have enough software for my liking.
Jan 15 15:17:53 <Mysterious> well, as i said i only want to set up a little server. i hope there are packages for one
Jan 15 15:19:07 <Mysterious> btw: some time ago i tried to install debian on the slug but i made really bad experiances with the installation
Jan 15 15:19:23 <Mysterious> and finally it did not work
Jan 15 15:21:44 <HRH_H_Crab> well ive got debian running on 3 slugs.
Jan 15 15:21:54 <HRH_H_Crab> one is a bit sick atm but i doubt thats due to debian.
Jan 15 15:22:08 <HRH_H_Crab> one of the others has apache with mod_perl
Jan 15 15:22:23 <HRH_H_Crab> and the other is running postfix and spamassassin
Jan 15 15:22:54 <HRH_H_Crab> more than quick enough for use on my "vanity domain".
Jan 15 15:23:04 <Mysterious> hm
Jan 15 15:23:08 <HRH_H_Crab> the other one is running this irssi instance
Jan 15 15:23:15 <HRH_H_Crab> even got ipv6 working! ;)
Jan 15 15:23:42 <HRH_H_Crab> the one thing that concerns me about your plans though, is the file serving part.
Jan 15 15:23:50 <Mysterious> hu^^ i would be happy if the slug would boot properly
Jan 15 15:23:51 <HRH_H_Crab> i know it seems strange as that was the slugs original purpose,
Jan 15 15:24:07 <HRH_H_Crab> but the one area where the slug falls down (ime) is file transfers 
Jan 15 15:24:15 <HRH_H_Crab> but saying that,
Jan 15 15:24:24 <HRH_H_Crab> most of the time i am transferring large files
Jan 15 15:24:40 <Mysterious> xD
Jan 15 15:24:40 <HRH_H_Crab> if you want to share out smaller files it prob. works a lot better.
Jan 15 15:25:05 <Mysterious> :S I wanted to share quite large files
Jan 15 15:25:16 <Mysterious> from up to 4gb
Jan 15 15:25:28 <Mysterious> *just up
Jan 15 15:25:45 <HRH_H_Crab> ive copied 4GB files off it.
Jan 15 15:25:50 <HRH_H_Crab> it takes an hour or two
Jan 15 15:25:55 <HRH_H_Crab> and redlines the processor.
Jan 15 15:25:59 <HRH_H_Crab> but if you are patient it works.
Jan 15 15:26:06 <HRH_H_Crab> (saying that i mainly use sftp!)
Jan 15 15:26:13 <HRH_H_Crab> and thats got the overhead of encryption
Jan 15 15:26:21 <HRH_H_Crab> so maybe thats why i feel its always a bit slow.
Jan 15 15:26:30 * HRH_H_Crab doesnt like nfs
Jan 15 15:26:32 <Mysterious> oh i see
Jan 15 15:26:37 <HRH_H_Crab> and i dont much like samba either
Jan 15 15:26:52 <Mysterious> yes i dont like it too
Jan 15 15:27:40 <Mysterious> but i want to connect an external disk with ntfs :(
Jan 15 15:37:47 <HRH_H_Crab> should be possible.
Jan 15 18:26:18 <Mysterious> I decided to give Unslung a try but :/
Jan 15 18:28:06 <Mysterious> It always hangs on boot with USB stick and also on inserting the stick while running
Jan 15 18:29:23 <Mysterious> the current step is formating and unslinging
Jan 15 19:09:50 <HRH_H_Crab> heh
Jan 15 19:10:07 <HRH_H_Crab> well, i still think deb is the way to go.
Jan 15 19:10:24 <HRH_H_Crab> the nslu2 is really a very nice little machine, and it deserves the finest os you can put on it!
Jan 15 19:12:38 <HRH_H_Crab> (which isnt to say that unslung and angstrom et. al. arent great os's but i just think that the slug does really nicely with debian)
Jan 15 19:22:27 <DrJ> I use slugos :)
Jan 15 19:23:53 <DrJ> I'd only recommend using unslung Mysterious if you are new to linux
Jan 15 19:26:33 <Mysterious> well i tried several installations but debian and unslug failed every time
Jan 15 19:27:20 <Mysterious> Now I'll try Slugos. it seems to be more reliable
Jan 15 19:27:35 <DrJ> just make sure to follow the instructions
Jan 15 19:27:40 <DrJ> if you do so, they should all work
Jan 15 19:28:02 <DrJ> never assume you know what to do
Jan 15 19:28:05 <DrJ> very key there
Jan 15 19:28:45 <Mysterious> Drj: Which instructions are good?
Jan 15 19:30:03 <HRH_H_Crab> Mysterious: ive had some difficulties installing debian but i always got there in the end.
Jan 15 19:30:17 <HRH_H_Crab> i think the last time i had problems i had to set the time in the linksys firmware or something
Jan 15 19:30:35 <Mysterious> strange^^
Jan 15 19:30:57 <HRH_H_Crab> ive not heard of slugos
Jan 15 19:31:01 <HRH_H_Crab> will look into that one
Jan 15 19:31:49 <Mysterious> I'll go on initializing it now
Jan 15 19:32:57 <HRH_H_Crab> aaah
Jan 15 19:33:06 <HRH_H_Crab> slugos is based on openembedded
Jan 15 19:33:12 <HRH_H_Crab> that is a great project
Jan 15 19:33:14 <Mysterious> ^^
Jan 15 19:33:26 <HRH_H_Crab> i used to use that on my zaurus, but in the end that got replaced by debian too! :P
Jan 15 19:34:23 <Mysterious> lol... i wished the debian installation had succeded a few month ago
Jan 15 19:34:50 <Mysterious> I tried it 3 times... and the setup ran soooo long
Jan 15 19:35:11 <Mysterious> and then it didn't worked >.<
Jan 15 19:35:39 <Mysterious> Might I have to change the ip before installing debian?
Jan 15 19:40:37 <HRH_H_Crab> Mysterious: well,
Jan 15 19:40:42 <HRH_H_Crab> what i normally do if i get problems,
Jan 15 19:40:49 <HRH_H_Crab> install the linksys firmware
Jan 15 19:41:01 <HRH_H_Crab> that sets it to a known ip on the 192.168.1.0 network
Jan 15 19:41:09 <HRH_H_Crab> (77 i believe)
Jan 15 19:41:22 <Mysterious> yes
Jan 15 19:41:25 <HRH_H_Crab> i then set it to the ip i want to use (in the linksys firmware) and set the clock correctly
Jan 15 19:41:38 <HRH_H_Crab> then i flash the debian installer, and things normally work o.k.
Jan 15 19:42:15 <HRH_H_Crab> if you are having problems with /everything/ including the linksys firmware, its more than likely a powersupply problem.
Jan 15 19:42:16 <Mysterious> ok... and is it possible that problems occur if i don't change those settings?
Jan 15 19:42:40 <Mysterious> hu?
Jan 15 19:42:42 <HRH_H_Crab> im not 100% sure but i think thats the safest approach
Jan 15 19:42:52 <Mysterious> ok
Jan 15 19:42:56 <HRH_H_Crab> well, ive had issues where i couldnt even reliably flash linksys before 
Jan 15 19:43:06 <HRH_H_Crab> and it turned out to be a dodgy psu not giving enough power.
Jan 15 19:43:24 <Mysterious> oh ok
Jan 15 19:43:48 <Mysterious> thank you for your advice^^
Jan 15 19:44:35 <HRH_H_Crab> good luck
Jan 15 19:44:44 <HRH_H_Crab> if you do get debian installed and find it too slow for you,
Jan 15 19:44:57 <HRH_H_Crab> it could be worth trying slugos like DrJ suggests
Jan 15 19:45:27 <HRH_H_Crab> i expect the repository might not be as big, but the openembedded guys normally make a distro that is very nicely tuned
Jan 15 19:45:40 <Mysterious> hm
Jan 15 19:46:16 <Mysterious> probably i should start with slugos^^ i put it on the slug an hour ago
Jan 15 19:46:42 <Mysterious> the performance is quite important for me
Jan 15 19:46:58 <Mysterious> although i like debian more
Jan 15 19:47:37 <chrisb> Mysterious: an advantage of slugos, is that it is small enough to resucue boot from the PROM if the disks or cables get dodgy
Jan 15 19:48:19 <Mysterious> nce
Jan 15 19:48:21 <Mysterious> *nice
Jan 15 19:48:35 <HRH_H_Crab> chrisb: is it significantly faster compared to debian?
Jan 15 19:49:05 <HRH_H_Crab> ive only used angstrom and debian and didnt notice much difference (with the disclaimer that angstrom had a minute fraction of the available software to test...)
Jan 15 19:53:31 <chrisb> HRH_H_Crab: i've never done a speed test
Jan 15 19:54:15 <chrisb> HRH_H_Crab: or a speed comparison
Jan 15 19:55:24 <HRH_H_Crab> but if you've tried both, did you get a feeling either was noticeably faster?
Jan 15 19:55:46 <HRH_H_Crab> i personally cannot imagine there is much in it between any of them, but as i say, ive only tried a couple of distros.
Jan 15 19:57:58 <Mysterious> Is there a package to run a speed test?^^
Jan 15 19:58:56 <HRH_H_Crab> there are prob. some benchmarks that one could run
Jan 15 19:59:16 <Mysterious> anyways, is there a differance between the 2 disk ports in slugos (like in unslung)?
Jan 15 20:00:12 <HRH_H_Crab> id be interested to know what kernel versions the other distros have.
Jan 15 20:00:47 <Mysterious> the firmware matrix isn't up to date is it?
Jan 15 20:00:57 <HRH_H_Crab> not sure
Jan 15 20:02:01 <Mysterious> it shows that unslung had a 2.4.22 kernel
Jan 15 20:04:27 <HRH_H_Crab> ouch
Jan 15 20:08:44 <Mysterious> chrisb: anyways, is there a differance between the 2 disk ports in slugos (like in unslung)?
Jan 15 21:02:33 <Mysterious> how can i verify whether the swapping is running on my /dev/sda2 in slugos?
Jan 15 21:23:01 <DrJ> swapon -s
Jan 15 21:23:49 <DrJ> if it shows there
Jan 15 21:23:52 <DrJ> its working Mysterious
Jan 15 21:24:12 <Mysterious> oh ok^^
Jan 15 21:24:22 <Mysterious> one more question
Jan 15 21:24:43 <Mysterious> is there an internal text editor in the shell environment
Jan 15 21:25:00 <DrJ> vi
Jan 15 21:25:05 <Mysterious> lol
Jan 15 21:25:10 <DrJ> however, I'm a nano kind of guy
Jan 15 21:25:22 <DrJ> if you want nano then ipkg install nano
Jan 15 21:25:31 <Mysterious> ok
Jan 15 21:25:40 <Mysterious> what can i use else
Jan 15 21:25:56 <DrJ> nano and vi are the two main ones
Jan 15 21:26:07 <DrJ> I can't think of any others off the top of my head
Jan 15 21:26:14 <DrJ> vi takes time to learn
Jan 15 21:26:16 <DrJ> nano is pretty easy
Jan 15 21:26:20 <Mysterious> it's ok
Jan 15 21:26:21 <Mysterious> thanks
Jan 15 21:26:24 <Mysterious> huh
Jan 15 21:26:34 <Mysterious> -sh: ipkg: not found
Jan 15 21:30:39 <DrJ> um
Jan 15 21:30:46 <DrJ> it should be in /usr/bin/ipkg
Jan 15 21:30:52 <DrJ> try: /usr/bin/ipkg update
Jan 15 21:30:57 <Mysterious> oh ok
Jan 15 21:31:39 <Mysterious> not found :S
Jan 15 21:32:03 <DrJ> how far are you in the install process
Jan 15 21:32:51 <Mysterious> i put the root filesystem ect. on an external flash device and swapped the swap on, mounted the drives
Jan 15 21:33:07 <DrJ> so are you running from the internal flash
Jan 15 21:33:16 <DrJ> or are you running from the external device
Jan 15 21:33:27 <Mysterious> I think external
Jan 15 21:33:39 <Mysterious> at least i followed the instructions
Jan 15 21:34:12 <DrJ> try rebooting
Jan 15 21:35:12 <Mysterious> o
Jan 15 21:35:14 <Mysterious> k
Jan 15 21:35:26 <Mysterious> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/InitialisingDisks i just finished this guide
Jan 15 21:37:00 <DrJ> so you rebooted then did the swap section?
Jan 15 21:37:16 <Mysterious> yes
Jan 15 21:37:27 <Mysterious> but
Jan 15 21:38:14 <Mysterious>  was confused when trying vi so i shut the nslu2 down and edited the fstab file in ubuntu (did this mock the system up >.<?)
Jan 15 21:39:36 <Mysterious> i could show you the output of mount
Jan 15 21:41:44 <Mysterious> rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
Jan 15 21:41:44 <Mysterious> /dev/root on /initrd type jffs2 (ro)
Jan 15 21:41:44 <Mysterious> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=continue,data=ordered)
Jan 15 21:41:44 <Mysterious> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
Jan 15 21:41:44 <Mysterious> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
Jan 15 21:42:03 <Mysterious> almost half of the output
Jan 15 21:42:24 <Mysterious> i cant copy paste in putty >.< i should try ssh
Jan 15 21:43:56 <Mysterious> /dev/sda1 on /dev/.static/dev type ext3 (rw,errors=continue,data=ordered)
Jan 15 21:43:56 <Mysterious> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=2048k,mode=755)
Jan 15 21:43:56 <Mysterious> /dev/sda3 on /media/sda3 type ext3 (rw,sync,errors=continue,data=ordered)
Jan 15 21:43:56 <Mysterious> tmpfs on /var/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=755)
Jan 15 21:43:56 <Mysterious> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,mode=777)
Jan 15 21:43:57 <Mysterious> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
Jan 15 21:43:59 <Mysterious> /dev/sda3 on /home type ext3 (rw,sync,errors=continue,data=ordered)
Jan 15 21:44:01 <Mysterious> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
Jan 15 21:44:14 <Mysterious> hell... sorry for spamming
Jan 15 21:54:20 <Mysterious> oh yeah -.- great
Jan 15 21:54:34 <Mysterious> Run turnup disk -i <DEVICE> -t ext3 to create a root filesystem on the external disk. (Or turnup memstick -i <DEVICE> -t ext3 if you are using a flash disk.) 
Jan 15 21:54:46 <Mysterious> and i got a.... flashdisk -.-
Jan 15 21:56:21 <Mysterious> what shall i do now? i have to repeat the step 
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Jan 15 23:44:22 <chrisb> Mysterious: swapon -s
Jan 16 00:00:13 <iwo> hey, can anyone tell me the wiki password?
Jan 16 00:06:59 <Mysterious> swapon: invalid option -- s
Jan 16 00:06:59 <Mysterious> BusyBox v1.13.2 (2009-03-07 03:12:14 UTC) multi-call binary
Jan 16 00:06:59 <Mysterious> Usage: swapon [-a] [-p pri] [DEVICE]
Jan 16 00:06:59 <Mysterious> Start swapping on DEVICE
Jan 16 00:06:59 <Mysterious> Options:
Jan 16 00:06:59 <Mysterious> 	-a	Start swapping on all swap devices
Jan 16 00:06:59 <Mysterious> 	-p pri	Set swap device priority
Jan 16 00:16:45 <Mysterious> :( why is my slugos/be  not working... I exactly followed the instructions. but there is no ipkg command
Jan 16 00:16:55 <ShadowJK_> isn't it opkg these days
Jan 16 00:19:14 <Mysterious> ...oh what the hell.... -.- Thank you very much
Jan 16 00:20:18 <HRH_H_Crab> how is it looking Mysterious?
Jan 16 00:20:22 <HRH_H_Crab> you got it installeD?
Jan 16 00:20:28 <Mysterious> :D yep
Jan 16 00:21:01 <Mysterious> it work in the previous installation -.-
Jan 16 00:21:17 <Mysterious> i thought i had to use the missing ipkg
Jan 16 00:21:22 <Mysterious> xD
Jan 16 00:21:37 <Mysterious> now I just have to make nslu temporary use a proxy for internet access^^
Jan 16 00:22:02 <Mysterious> so if you have some time to waste... ;)
Jan 16 00:23:18 <Mysterious> ;_; how could my english become so bad :(
Jan 16 00:23:24 <HRH_H_Crab> hmmm
Jan 16 00:23:44 <HRH_H_Crab> im not too sure how to do that
Jan 16 00:23:51 <HRH_H_Crab> what are you using to access the internet?
Jan 16 00:23:53 <HRH_H_Crab> opkg?
Jan 16 00:24:57 <HRH_H_Crab> http://wiki.openwrt.org/oldwiki/openwrtdocs/packages
Jan 16 00:24:58 <Mysterious> I have got a modem attached to a switch 
Jan 16 00:25:05 <HRH_H_Crab> if so there is some useful stuff there
Jan 16 00:25:13 <HRH_H_Crab> seems openwrt uses opkg too.
Jan 16 00:25:29 <Mysterious> lol thanks
Jan 16 00:27:44 <Mysterious> this may sound a bit strange but how can i list up directories and files
Jan 16 00:27:48 <ShadowJK_> try: export http_proxy=http://proxy.address:port
Jan 16 00:27:57 <ShadowJK_> for the proxy
Jan 16 00:28:03 <ShadowJK_> ls
Jan 16 00:28:13 <Mysterious> thanks :D
Jan 16 00:28:27 <ShadowJK_> http://genepath.med.harvard.edu/~depalma/unixPrimer.html
Jan 16 00:29:28 <Mysterious> i am so windows corrupted xD
Jan 16 00:29:42 <HRH_H_Crab> Mysterious: ls -alth for more detail
Jan 16 00:29:54 <Mysterious> ok^^
Jan 16 00:30:04 <HRH_H_Crab> i dont know if slugos has manpages but "man ls" might be useful
Jan 16 00:30:33 <ShadowJK_> it generally doesn't
Jan 16 00:30:53 <ShadowJK_> plus it's busybox version of everything..
Jan 16 00:31:18 <Mysterious> how can i remove the proxy if i want to connect the slug to a router?
Jan 16 00:32:42 <HRH_H_Crab> export http_proxy="" 
Jan 16 00:32:45 <HRH_H_Crab> i guess :P
Jan 16 00:32:50 <ShadowJK_> unset http_proxy
Jan 16 00:32:57 <Mysterious> ^^
Jan 16 00:32:59 <HRH_H_Crab> that sounds much neater ;)
Jan 16 00:33:11 <ShadowJK_> route add default gw 192.168.0.254              <-- use your own router's IP here
Jan 16 00:33:42 <ShadowJK_> assuming the slug has obtained a sensible IP somehow :)
Jan 16 01:09:50 <Mysterious> great^^ finally it runs :D
Jan 16 01:10:49 <HRH_H_Crab> heh
Jan 16 01:10:57 <Mysterious> I have just one last question: how do i know if the packages are installed on my flash device or on the internal rom?
Jan 16 01:11:32 <HRH_H_Crab> ill hand that one over to ShadowJK_ as i know nothing of slugos
Jan 16 01:11:39 <ShadowJK_> Hm.
Jan 16 01:11:40 <HRH_H_Crab> but my guess is they are on the flash device
Jan 16 01:11:51 <HRH_H_Crab> the internal ram is prob. too small for much
Jan 16 01:11:59 <ShadowJK_> paste the output of df -h, and I can make an educated guess
Jan 16 01:12:05 <ShadowJK_> my own slug died this week :-(
Jan 16 01:12:17 <HRH_H_Crab> ShadowJK_: are you /sure/ its dead and not the psu?
Jan 16 01:12:34 <ShadowJK_> Oh, it boots
Jan 16 01:12:43 <ShadowJK_> Everything except ethernet works.
Jan 16 01:12:48 <HRH_H_Crab> i was >< close to throwing away a pefectly good slug before i swapped psu.
Jan 16 01:12:51 <ShadowJK_> There are two extra, VERY LOUD beeps on boot.
Jan 16 01:13:11 <ShadowJK_> It even writes log files to the usb flash disk.
Jan 16 01:13:14 <HRH_H_Crab> that sounds a bit scary, but i wouldnt give up on it if you are still using an original psu.
Jan 16 01:13:28 <ShadowJK_> the original psu died 2 years ago :)
Jan 16 01:13:35 <HRH_H_Crab>  /o\
Jan 16 01:13:58 <Mysterious> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
Jan 16 01:13:58 <Mysterious> /dev/root                 6400      5480       920  86% /initrd
Jan 16 01:13:58 <Mysterious> /dev/sda1               968536     32744    886592   4% /
Jan 16 01:13:58 <Mysterious> /dev/sda1               968536     32744    886592   4% /dev/.static/dev
Jan 16 01:13:58 <Mysterious> udev                      2048        44      2004   2% /dev
Jan 16 01:13:58 <Mysterious> /dev/sda3               480171      8239    447139   2% /media/sda3
Jan 16 01:14:00 <Mysterious> tmpfs                    15120         0     15120   0% /var/volatile
Jan 16 01:14:01 <ShadowJK_> even when the original psu was dying, the first thing that stopped working was USB peripherals..
Jan 16 01:14:03 <Mysterious> tmpfs                    15120         0     15120   0% /dev/shm
Jan 16 01:14:04 <HRH_H_Crab> hurry up and get another one while you still can! ;)
Jan 16 01:14:04 <Mysterious> /dev/sda3               480171      8239    447139   2% /home
Jan 16 01:14:35 <ShadowJK_> HRH_H_Crab, heh. I really like SlugOS... but I decided to move on to sheevaplug
Jan 16 01:14:45 <HRH_H_Crab> aah
Jan 16 01:14:48 <ShadowJK_> But tbh, USB works better on NSLU2
Jan 16 01:14:50 <HRH_H_Crab> yeah those things seem awesome
Jan 16 01:14:54 <HRH_H_Crab> loads of ram
Jan 16 01:15:11 <HRH_H_Crab> must be like a "real" computer
Jan 16 01:15:33 <ShadowJK_> Well... a "real" computer with nvidia nforce...
Jan 16 01:15:41 <HRH_H_Crab> although what the slug can do with its limited ram and debian never ceases to amaze me
Jan 16 01:15:45 <ShadowJK_> Similar amount of chipset buggyness in my experience :)
Jan 16 01:16:01 <Mysterious> what about my dumpy dump?
Jan 16 01:16:32 <ShadowJK_> Mysterious, I think you're installing stuff to external storage
Jan 16 01:17:10 <Mysterious> excellent xD
Jan 16 01:18:54 <HRH_H_Crab> ShadowJK_: how many usb ports does the sheevaplug have?
Jan 16 01:19:01 <ShadowJK_> one :-(
Jan 16 01:19:17 <HRH_H_Crab> and just the one nic?
Jan 16 01:19:21 <ShadowJK_> yes
Jan 16 01:19:27 <HRH_H_Crab> thats enough for me really.
Jan 16 01:19:30 <ShadowJK_> Pot luck finding a USB Hub that works ok
Jan 16 01:19:33 <HRH_H_Crab> shame they dont make one with 3 nics
Jan 16 01:19:37 <HRH_H_Crab> :P
Jan 16 01:19:38 <ShadowJK_> I have a 7 port D-link usb hub
Jan 16 01:19:44 <ShadowJK_> they make one with 2
Jan 16 01:19:53 <ShadowJK_> openrd-base / openrd-client
Jan 16 01:19:57 <ShadowJK_> price is higher, of course..
Jan 16 01:20:01 <HRH_H_Crab> in my 3 slugs i have 500GB drives as the main drive
Jan 16 01:20:03 <ShadowJK_> the -client version comes with VGA...
Jan 16 01:20:10 <ShadowJK_> and sata..
Jan 16 01:20:18 <HRH_H_Crab> 2 have crappy old flash drives in the other port,
Jan 16 01:20:44 <HRH_H_Crab> and one has a shit webcam whose driver doesnt even compile with debian unstable
Jan 16 01:20:55 <HRH_H_Crab> so i can tolerate 1 usb
Jan 16 01:21:07 <HRH_H_Crab> what i really want are multiple nics
Jan 16 01:21:22 <HRH_H_Crab> a slug with 3 nics would make me so happy.
Jan 16 01:21:48 <HRH_H_Crab> hmmm
Jan 16 01:21:54 <DrJ> get a couple USB network cards
Jan 16 01:22:12 <HRH_H_Crab> DrJ: but where do i put my root drive?
Jan 16 01:22:22 <DrJ> use a hub
Jan 16 01:22:38 <HRH_H_Crab> and well supported linux usb ---> ethernet adaptors dont seem that common.
Jan 16 01:22:58 <DrJ> there's a wiki page on it at the site HRH_H_Crab
Jan 16 01:23:14 <ShadowJK_> I scored two usb->ethernet adapters recently
Jan 16 01:23:20 * HRH_H_Crab looks
Jan 16 01:23:21 <ShadowJK_> the davicom ones are garbage
Jan 16 01:23:29 <DrJ> find one that is listed to work
Jan 16 01:23:32 <HRH_H_Crab> the things are so cheap that the gamble isnt too bad i guess
Jan 16 01:23:33 <DrJ> then search ebay for it
Jan 16 01:23:38 <ShadowJK_> asix seems fhine though
Jan 16 01:24:11 <ShadowJK_> I wish the davicom ones worked better, they don't eat that much power and could work directly with my Nokia N810
Jan 16 01:24:51 <ShadowJK_> I loved my NSLU2 :(
Jan 16 01:25:11 <ShadowJK_> It was rock solid. :/
Jan 16 01:25:16 <ShadowJK_> (until it died)
Jan 16 01:25:35 <HRH_H_Crab> heh
Jan 16 01:25:52 <HRH_H_Crab> if i can get 2 decent usb --> ethernet adaptors and a hub that works,
Jan 16 01:26:09 <HRH_H_Crab> i can put my old mac to bed which is currently my firewall
Jan 16 01:26:38 <HRH_H_Crab> would make the ambient volume of my living room a few db lower!
Jan 16 01:26:50 <ShadowJK_> to be fair, in the pre-nslu-death configuration the sheeva had been running reliably for 5 months... But before those 5 months it had been crashing daily when I had both a OCZ and a Buffalo USB stick connected. ...
Jan 16 01:27:23 <HRH_H_Crab> what os do you have on the sheeva?
Jan 16 01:27:35 <ShadowJK_> Ubuntu
Jan 16 01:27:40 <HRH_H_Crab> heh
Jan 16 01:27:43 <ShadowJK_> compiled new kernel though
Jan 16 01:27:54 <HRH_H_Crab> still arm ?
Jan 16 01:27:55 <ShadowJK_> from marvell's git
Jan 16 01:27:59 <ShadowJK_> yes
Jan 16 02:08:35 <Mysterious> Thanks for your help today, good bye :)
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