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Jan 21 14:54:04 <Mysterious> hello^^
Jan 21 14:54:33 <HRH_H_Crab> hey Mysterious 
Jan 21 14:54:46 <HRH_H_Crab> any luck with your slug?
Jan 21 14:54:58 <Mysterious> well.... not really
Jan 21 14:55:04 <HRH_H_Crab> :(
Jan 21 14:55:07 <Mysterious> the hardware might be damages
Jan 21 14:55:09 <Mysterious> *d
Jan 21 14:55:29 <Mysterious> My slug was manufactured in 12/2007
Jan 21 14:55:38 <HRH_H_Crab> save up  your pennies and buy a sheevaplug! ;)
Jan 21 14:55:44 <Mysterious> xD
Jan 21 14:56:07 <Mysterious> well i already save but it will be a intel atom server^^
Jan 21 14:56:20 <HRH_H_Crab> nice
Jan 21 14:56:35 <Mysterious> i hope the mainboard will be cheap enough soon
Jan 21 14:56:59 <Mysterious> it only takes 15-20 watts^^ that is the main point for buying
Jan 21 14:57:32 <Mysterious> but back to the slug x)
Jan 21 14:58:09 <Mysterious> the newer slugs (like mine) were already overclocked, weren't they?
Jan 21 14:59:05 <HRH_H_Crab> no,
Jan 21 14:59:14 <HRH_H_Crab> its not that they are overclocked,
Jan 21 14:59:24 <HRH_H_Crab> its more like they arent "underclocked"
Jan 21 14:59:33 <HRH_H_Crab> or to put it another way,
Jan 21 14:59:48 <HRH_H_Crab> the hardware was always capable of doing the speeds of the new slugs,
Jan 21 15:00:09 <HRH_H_Crab> but for reasons that i doubt anyone can fully understand, linksys /underclocked/ the older ones.
Jan 21 15:00:24 <HRH_H_Crab> so instead of thinking of a runner taking steroids,
Jan 21 15:00:48 <HRH_H_Crab> think of him untying his shoelaces which were tied to the other shoe.
Jan 21 15:01:48 <Mysterious> ok^^
Jan 21 15:03:02 <Mysterious> but do the newer de-"underclocked" slugs have the R83(or whatever;)) resistor like the underclocked ones?
Jan 21 15:03:30 <HRH_H_Crab> im not familiar with the details of the circuit board, i never opened any of my slugs up.
Jan 21 15:03:59 <HRH_H_Crab> all i know is that i believe that the "underclocking" process involved linksys putting a resistor somewhere
Jan 21 15:04:19 <HRH_H_Crab> (because the hardware hack to reverse that involved removing that resistor - i think)
Jan 21 15:04:57 <HRH_H_Crab> what the situation with the new slugs is, i couldnt say, but i guess it might not be too crazy to assume that they lack that resistor.
Jan 21 15:05:22 <Mysterious> hm
Jan 21 15:07:03 <Mysterious> i tought maybe linksys changed something else though that the resistor at the position(of the R83 in older slugs) must stay there now....
Jan 21 15:07:39 <HRH_H_Crab> im honestly not sure what the hardware is like in detail.
Jan 21 15:07:47 <Mysterious> :(
Jan 21 15:07:57 <HRH_H_Crab> as i say, i never attempted any hardware hacks, or opened my slugs.
Jan 21 15:08:25 <HRH_H_Crab> infact, when i got my two new slugs, i was initially surprised they were quicker, before i remembered what i had read before about the underclocking.
Jan 21 15:08:53 <Mysterious> ^^
Jan 21 15:09:50 <Mysterious> could you tell me who is more in hardware things of the slug?
Jan 21 15:10:49 <HRH_H_Crab> not by name, but im pretty sure everything that is known is somewhere on nslu2-linux.org
Jan 21 15:11:37 <Mysterious> i guess my special case isn't mentioned there
Jan 21 15:11:52 <HRH_H_Crab> heh
Jan 21 15:12:08 <HRH_H_Crab> one thing you might look in to is possible bootloader issues.
Jan 21 15:12:21 <HRH_H_Crab> it could be that which is giving you problems.
Jan 21 15:12:34 <Mysterious> that might help^^
Jan 21 15:13:46 <Mysterious> i got a friend's slug and his father seemed to have removed the resistor in the 12/07 slug :S
Jan 21 15:13:46 <Mysterious> just to mention that^^
Jan 21 15:14:25 <HRH_H_Crab> well from what ive read, its a fairly safe hack.
Jan 21 15:14:45 <HRH_H_Crab> unless you suspect it was not done properly i wouldnt necessarily assume its the problem.
Jan 21 15:16:33 <Mysterious> the place of the removed resistor look a bit scratched :S but i think that wouldn't be so bad
Jan 21 15:17:52 <Mysterious> by the way: how important is the battery (for time etc) in the slug? Is it neccessary for booting? :/
Jan 21 15:28:26 <HRH_H_Crab> i dont know
Jan 21 15:28:45 <HRH_H_Crab> it might cause problems with fsck'ing the disk
Jan 21 15:29:08 <HRH_H_Crab> if the slug unplugs and the date goes back to 1970 so the filesystem date is newer than the slug date.
Jan 21 15:36:57 <Mysterious> then i'll try to change the battery^^
Jan 21 17:05:16 <Mysterious1> yay
Jan 21 17:05:43 <Mysterious1> one problem less. i just killed the slug^^. now i can smash it with a hammer :D
Jan 21 17:10:42 <HRH_H_Crab> :o
Jan 21 17:13:07 <Mysterious1> perhaps i should test what happens when i use the -c command in upslug2 xD
Jan 21 17:28:13 <Mysterious1> how to build a jtag cable x(
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