**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 20 02:59:57 2010 Feb 20 18:34:35 hi Feb 20 18:34:56 i did ipkg install py26-twisted Feb 20 18:35:03 and it install python25 Feb 20 18:35:24 how is that dependent? Feb 20 18:35:27 is it normal? Feb 20 18:36:48 also http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/oleg/cross/stable/py25-zope-interface_3.5.0-1_mipsel.ipk Feb 20 18:37:46 beo^: could be a bug in packaging Feb 20 18:38:16 hmm :/ Feb 20 18:39:32 i don't see anything wrong in the corresponding .mk file Feb 20 18:40:05 i had python25 before then removed it and installed 26 Feb 20 18:40:17 maybe something with that Feb 20 18:40:49 use "ipkg info pkg_name" to find out the dependencies Feb 20 18:41:54 Package: py26-twisted Feb 20 18:41:58 Version: 8.2.0-1 Feb 20 18:42:01 Depends: python25, py25-zope-interface Feb 20 18:42:05 oO Feb 20 18:42:47 you're right, there is a bug Feb 20 18:42:51 i'll fix it Feb 20 18:44:23 great, thanx Feb 20 19:34:56 Did I find the correct place when it comes to Synology DS409 questions like: How to monitor drive and sys temp variables via snmp? How to get those values with the help of system utilites? Feb 20 19:39:02 reiffert: you can try your questions here, but the chance that right ppl be here at the right time is slim Feb 20 19:39:30 you can use synology forum if it's specific to synology Feb 20 19:39:54 you can also try join nslu2-generic and nslu2-linux yahoo groups Feb 20 19:40:01 and ask there Feb 20 20:42:28 eno: have you fixed it? :) Feb 20 21:37:35 eno: I doubt that synology forum is of any good. What I found there so far is always the same bla bla. Feb 20 21:38:12 thing is, the webinterface hands back system temp and disk temperatures. Feb 20 21:38:37 When I use the webinterface (some curl, cookies and stuff), the drives wake up from hibernate. Feb 20 21:38:56 snmpd doesnt has that values. Feb 20 21:40:16 Right now I have no ideas how the status.cgi *get* the temperature values from the motherboard and the drives. If I could get the system temperature, I could hand it to the monitoring machine without spinning up the drives. Feb 20 21:42:07 nothing in /proc. nothing in /sys that sounds like temp or i2c. Feb 20 21:45:10 oh, and it would be nice to know wether those disks are currently spinned down or not. Feb 20 22:16:51 hi.. anyone know how to get a mount -o bind /xxx /yyy command to persist accross reboots on nslu2? Feb 20 22:20:03 that would depend on the firmware, of course, but if you use the normal Linux firrmwares, you do it like you would do it on any Linux machine -- put it in the fstab. Feb 20 22:21:39 unslung Feb 20 22:21:48 it gets blown away on reboot Feb 20 22:23:20 mwester:? Feb 20 22:26:28 read the wiki about diversion scripts. Feb 20 22:27:03 (unslung isn't really linux, so as usual it's completely different) Feb 20 22:44:26 Ok thanks mwester.. While I'm here.. what have people found to be best modern alternative to nslu2.. I still use nslu2 and it has been awesome but one day i'm sure it will die and i'll need an alternative... Feb 20 22:49:42 check the nslu2-* mailing list archives; this topic comes up regularly and there are many opinions and alternatives. Feb 20 23:12:54 garpinc: you can get cheap replacement nslu2's on ebay and still buy some of them at walmarts I've seen.... So you can always get another if it dies. If you mean the project for the firmware however, yea that might eventually cease, but you'll always be able to find a copy of the firmware and its already in great shape to be used for a long long time Feb 20 23:13:13 on a side note to this topic though, my power adapter to my nslu2 fried the other day :( Feb 20 23:13:30 new power adapter on the way from ebay though as we speak Feb 20 23:13:57 I know its the adapter because my multitester showed 0.00 volts coming from it Feb 20 23:18:50 beo^: i committed the change, but it will take some time before our builder picks it up Feb 20 23:19:35 garpinc: soon there'll be an iomega iconnect that looks very interesting Feb 20 23:20:11 Btw.. Following the power always on hack you then don't need a power adapter.. Feb 20 23:24:22 http://www.amazon.com/USB-Power-Adapter-Y-Cable/dp/B000JIOHDE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1226444397&sr=8-1 Feb 20 23:24:33 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ForcePowerAlwaysOn#method5 Feb 20 23:28:29 eno.. I'm looking for a nas that would run tomcat.. know anything that might fit the bill.. Basically same as nslu2 but powerful enough and enough memory to run tomcat Feb 20 23:29:07 tomcat needs java Feb 20 23:29:23 you better get an i686 NAS for anything java Feb 20 23:29:53 openjdk on arm shows some promise, but i don't think arm is good for java Feb 20 23:31:09 any recommendation? Feb 20 23:33:07 synology or qnap all have 2 bay atom d410 NAS Feb 20 23:33:19 these are expensive though Feb 20 23:33:55 i'd like my nas to not have any drive bays and run off usbs like the nslu2 Feb 20 23:34:00 anything like that? Feb 20 23:34:34 i have not seen anything like that with x86 CPU Feb 20 23:35:23 well I don't need x86 since i'm running linux.. but something with comparable performance Feb 20 23:37:14 and ur write.. they are expensive.. Feb 20 23:38:01 your java requirement makes it difficult Feb 20 23:38:41 building a modern jvm on non-x86 is not easy Feb 20 23:39:51 lots of java hotspot involve low-level assembly Feb 20 23:40:03 I see... Feb 20 23:40:34 that's some very interesting insight.. Feb 20 23:41:18 so it's strange. I can buy a netbook with an atom processor for 3hundred but a nas cost almost 6.. Feb 20 23:41:25 very strang.. Feb 20 23:42:44 maybe something like intel ss4200-e ? Feb 20 23:44:18 celeron Feb 20 23:44:31 http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Entry-Storage-System-SS4200-E/dp/B0012J0MYW Feb 20 23:44:36 $585 Feb 20 23:45:17 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859117003 Feb 20 23:45:21 $200 Feb 20 23:46:02 i've even seen it go as low as $135 Feb 20 23:46:56 interesting Feb 20 23:47:27 i don't have one, and i'm not buying one - i don't need java on NAS Feb 20 23:47:52 with it came without the drive bays and ssd slot instead Feb 20 23:48:07 but price is right Feb 20 23:48:39 right Feb 20 23:48:55 atom d410 NAS is nice, these are dual core **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Feb 21 02:59:57 2010