**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 21 23:59:56 2005 Feb 22 00:14:00 jp30, well the apache2 works - it does seem to use more memory than version 1.3.33 Feb 22 00:14:28 works w/ gallery that is... Feb 22 00:14:43 jp30 the prefix is already in make file. Feb 22 00:14:45 samms71, try disabling some of the modules Feb 22 00:15:23 jp30, thx...i just thought of that as well. Feb 22 00:17:47 garpinc, not sure what you mean Feb 22 00:19:16 03garpinc * 10unslung/make/ffmpeg.mk: added mandir Feb 22 00:19:20 jp30 try that... Feb 22 00:20:39 I think fundementally configure must be guessing wrong because config.mak has all the wrong values. Seems to work if I override. Feb 22 00:21:21 garpinc, am cvs updating... hang on... Feb 22 00:22:09 ok... it's 3:21 here so gotta go to bed soon so I can make it to work tommorow... I'll wait a few.. Feb 22 00:23:58 are u updating just my make file or everything? Feb 22 00:24:34 now rebuilding ffmpeg, nearly there Feb 22 00:25:33 r we on the super duper new build machine yet? Feb 22 00:25:35 that's better, no errors Feb 22 00:26:03 great.. Feb 22 00:26:33 r we done or r u trying something else? Feb 22 00:27:19 garpinc, done for now I think, I need to get to bed soon too Feb 22 00:27:28 ok see ya.. Feb 22 00:30:51 morning Feb 22 00:36:11 morning Feb 22 01:14:38 VoodooZ_log: thanx for fixing the ipkg-native problem. I'll try this tonight! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 22 02:08:24 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 22 02:08:44 2005 Feb 22 02:20:57 I saw something strange upgrading openssh: during config it disconnected the ssh-session and upgrade was interrupted.... Feb 22 02:21:33 so a new ipkg upgraded will reupgrade openssh Feb 22 02:22:17 also it overwrites my /opt/etc/openssh/sshd_config Feb 22 02:25:04 you need to add it to CONFFILES in the openssh.mk then ... Feb 22 02:26:54 hmm openssh.mk needs to be updated to match the template first ... Feb 22 02:36:04 grrr, now i cannot login anymore. need to reboot. from a distance :( Feb 22 02:37:52 bummer. openssh predates where we worked out conffiles, and no-one has taken the time to update it. Feb 22 02:41:51 i am not able to do it now (i am at work, you know) Feb 22 04:44:39 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2842.1.1 10openembedded/ (5 files in 5 dirs): OpenSlug-1.2-alpha: Changed the kernel config so that whatever is required to support an external USB hard disk is compiled into the kernel. Feb 22 04:49:18 rwhitby: nice! Feb 22 04:49:54 if you touch /.recovery, you will drop into a recovery shell where you can mount ext3 external disks. Feb 22 04:49:55 rwhitby: so, that is usbcore, ohci_hcd, ehci_hcd, sd & usb_storage? Feb 22 04:50:00 yeah Feb 22 04:50:07 and ext3 and jbd Feb 22 04:50:38 preparation for switchbox pivoting to external disks and nfsroot for openslug Feb 22 04:52:08 how big is that kernel? Feb 22 04:52:19 10k under max size Feb 22 04:52:23 (1MB) Feb 22 04:52:29 heh Feb 22 04:52:35 maybe we can kick some stuff out Feb 22 04:52:49 'cause last time i checked, there was deprecated stuff taking up space Feb 22 04:53:36 anything that's not required in switchbox can be made into a module ... Feb 22 04:54:01 yeah, but there was also some debugging stuff and /proc/pci stuff and the likes Feb 22 04:54:21 * rwhitby nods Feb 22 04:54:42 The PCI device name database is already off Feb 22 04:54:47 can you make a list on the wiki, so we can act on it if we need to? Feb 22 04:54:54 i'll pull the latest defconfig tonight and check it out Feb 22 04:55:02 cool. thx. Feb 22 04:55:37 argh! i've pre-ordered this book, which was released today, and i _still_ don't have it! Feb 22 04:55:41 :) Feb 22 04:55:49 heh. what book is it? Feb 22 04:56:13 it must be a day for things not turning up - my bluetooth dongle won't get here till tomorrow now ... Feb 22 04:56:16 o'reilly's linux device drivers, 3rd ed Feb 22 05:01:13 now I need to add mke2fs, cpio, find, and portmap to switchbox - wonder if they will all fit Feb 22 05:01:26 cpio is 53180 Feb 22 05:01:28 oh you want nfs support too? Feb 22 05:01:34 in switchb Feb 22 05:02:01 probably not - it's not going to fit Feb 22 05:02:09 we can do that in the jffs2 linuxrc Feb 22 05:02:44 find is 97216 Feb 22 05:02:52 or enlarge switchbox Feb 22 05:03:26 no, I meant the kernel support Feb 22 05:03:59 ah Feb 22 05:04:08 modules? Feb 22 05:04:34 hm, why did you include all the usb disk stuff instead of keeping them as module? Feb 22 05:05:11 recovery purposes Feb 22 05:05:27 reload your jffs2 from an external disk image when the jffs2 is hosed Feb 22 05:06:04 or boot from a recovery disk when you've screwed up your jffs2 init scripts, or lost the password Feb 22 05:07:01 rwhitby: but you can include them as modules in switchbox Feb 22 05:07:03 keeps the kernel size down Feb 22 05:07:50 but then we would need to have two switchboxes. at the moment we have a single switchbox which supports both unslung and openslug Feb 22 05:08:46 development and maintenance effort is more precious than kernel size at the moment :-) Feb 22 05:10:41 understood Feb 22 05:11:31 if we go over the 1MB kernel, and can't get rid of unused stuff, then we'll have to fork switchbox ... Feb 22 05:11:49 anyone know which OE package contains mke2fs? Feb 22 05:12:16 nope sorry Feb 22 05:13:36 rwhitby: but, as i said, i'll check the config tonight Feb 22 05:20:04 hmm - I should enable all the bluetooth modules while I am there ..... Feb 22 05:21:17 what about QoS and printer stuff? Feb 22 05:21:42 it's already there in openslug Feb 22 05:21:54 (which is what I am referring to ...) Feb 22 05:21:59 1 more reason to switch to openslug :) Feb 22 05:24:41 rwhitby: qos is in modules, right? Feb 22 05:24:49 giel: I expect that to be able to enable bluetooth modules, we'll need more than the 10k spare at the moment, so your review of the defconfig will be appreciated Feb 22 05:25:07 ooh - no it's not Feb 22 05:26:52 rwhitby: i'll be thorough... like, who on earth needs 4 different i/o schedulers? Feb 22 05:27:03 rwhitby: anticipatory or deadline is enough Feb 22 05:27:18 rwhitby: nobody ever uses noop, and cfq is undergoing a refactoring anyway Feb 22 05:27:47 rwhitby: and i think, for slug purposes being uniprocessor and slow, deadline is the best Feb 22 05:28:04 rwhitby: maybe good to switch to deadline sched instead of anticipatory anyhow Feb 22 05:28:09 can you put your recommendations here: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/KernelConfig ? Feb 22 05:28:16 will do Feb 22 05:28:20 thx Feb 22 05:30:52 well. my work here is done. Feb 22 05:30:56 night all Feb 22 05:32:19 hihi, now we have a unslug-mailing list here at work, since we're so many with nslu2 Feb 22 05:34:21 mke2fs is 94684 Feb 22 05:35:11 239 blocks for cpio + find + mke2fs in switchbox Feb 22 05:35:29 # df Feb 22 05:35:29 Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on Feb 22 05:35:29 . /dev/mtdblock0 955 395 560 41% / Feb 22 05:35:40 should be doable Feb 22 05:35:47 cool Feb 22 05:37:51 might even be room for some mtd_utils in there too .... Feb 22 05:41:33 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugStatus is out of date Feb 22 05:42:14 really? nice :) Feb 22 05:43:11 kolla: status is on the mailing list - [g2] sent an update today Feb 22 05:43:59 oh, I thought perhaps "alpha state" wa out-dated :) Feb 22 05:44:03 was Feb 22 05:45:22 there's a spare spot in the alpha testers database just waiting for your name .... Feb 22 05:45:32 I see :) Feb 22 05:45:36 * kolla wiggles in his chair Feb 22 05:45:57 ?? Feb 22 05:51:26 # mke2fs -q /dev/sda1 Feb 22 05:51:26 ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/sda1 is mounted. Feb 22 05:51:26 # Feb 22 05:51:35 From inside the switchbox recovery shell ... Feb 22 05:52:02 (it works - the error is spurious) Feb 22 05:53:27 # echo > /etc/mtab Feb 22 05:53:27 # mke2fs -q /dev/sda Feb 22 05:53:27 # Feb 22 05:53:49 morning Feb 22 05:53:57 morning VoodooZ_Work Feb 22 05:53:57 hi VoodooZ_Work Feb 22 05:54:03 VoodooZ_Work: thanx Feb 22 05:54:05 what's new boys? Feb 22 05:54:12 perlguru-work: Got my message? Feb 22 05:54:20 OpenSlug-1.2-alpha ... Feb 22 05:54:20 I mean posting. Feb 22 05:54:22 yep, send me an email ;) Feb 22 05:54:22 rwhitby-asleep: Use -F Feb 22 05:54:26 no way! already? Feb 22 05:54:43 perlguru-work, actually, did you see my posting? Feb 22 05:55:00 damn, I'm still asleep, I meant comment in the log Feb 22 05:55:05 yes, i did an di send a email to myself with the fix ;) Feb 22 05:55:24 rwhitby-asleep: What's new in 1.2? Feb 22 05:55:33 works great eh? Feb 22 05:55:39 is there a chance to boot openslug without needing a serial console yet? Feb 22 05:55:45 My build now finishes in 31 minutes flat! Feb 22 05:56:05 VoodooZ_Work: did not try it yet, because i am still at work. Feb 22 05:56:19 cool. Let me know. Feb 22 05:56:35 i'll try in about 2/2.5 hours Feb 22 05:56:38 CosmicPenguin said the package has been hosed for a while. Feb 22 05:56:59 somebody suggested to try a newer version that pulls back some changes but I didn't bother. I use the old old. Feb 22 05:57:34 It's really thanks to kergoth as he's the one that refered me to CosmicPenguin in the first place. Feb 22 05:57:39 VoodooZ_Work: modules for external hard disk support are now compiled into the kernel so that switchbox can pivot to an external disk - not much interest for you :-) Feb 22 05:58:21 since I expect the vodoozlug distro will have it's own defconfig ... Feb 22 05:58:34 rwhitby-asleep: still pretty cool though. Feb 22 05:58:45 definitely will! Feb 22 05:58:49 rwhitby is pretty cool, that's why :) Feb 22 05:58:58 damn right Feb 22 05:59:05 hell yeah Feb 22 05:59:16 hip hip oohray for rwhitby! Feb 22 05:59:21 still some work to be done on switchbox before we will be able to pivot out to disk, but it looks doable Feb 22 05:59:24 ~hail rwhitby Feb 22 05:59:25 ~praise rwhitby-asleep Feb 22 05:59:26 * jbot bows down to rwhitby and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Feb 22 05:59:28 All hail rwhitby-asleep! Feb 22 05:59:46 aww stop it. Feb 22 05:59:48 ~praise [g2] Feb 22 05:59:50 All hail [g2]! Feb 22 05:59:55 I second that! Feb 22 06:00:03 ~praise giel Feb 22 06:00:06 All hail giel! Feb 22 06:00:07 ~praise siddy Feb 22 06:00:10 hehehe Feb 22 06:00:13 All hail siddy! Feb 22 06:00:13 ~praise all Feb 22 06:00:18 All hail all! Feb 22 06:00:33 wow! My first praise! Feb 22 06:00:45 ~praise VoodooZ_Work Feb 22 06:00:47 All hail VoodooZ_Work! Feb 22 06:00:51 for user in #nslu2-linux ; do ~praise user ; done Feb 22 06:01:00 :D Feb 22 06:01:09 you forgot a $ there :) Feb 22 06:01:39 and user is not the best variable to use in shell scripts Feb 22 06:01:40 and a do...done block ;) Feb 22 06:01:46 rwhitby-asleep: I noticed you guys added UHCI_USB to the kernel. That's wrong. It's mostly used on x86 PC Feb 22 06:01:48 as it is already defined Feb 22 06:01:54 thanks, perlguru-work Feb 22 06:01:55 no, I was just heaping lots of praise on "user" :-) Feb 22 06:02:08 VoodooZ_Work: ? Feb 22 06:02:16 VoodooZ_Work: i'm gonna check on the openslug defconfig tonight Feb 22 06:02:22 * rwhitby-asleep steps back to let Tiersten and VoodooZ_Work discuss UHCI_USB .... Feb 22 06:02:24 The NEC USB controller is a EHCI + UHCI Feb 22 06:02:30 VoodooZ_Work: but you're right, only ohci and ehci are needed Feb 22 06:02:34 It's the correct driver for USB1 Feb 22 06:02:52 Hang on Feb 22 06:02:53 Well, I never used it. and my USB 1&2 devices work fine. I only have OHCI and EHCI. Feb 22 06:02:56 Is it OHCI or UHCI? Feb 22 06:03:00 OHCI Feb 22 06:03:05 ah Feb 22 06:03:05 OHCI. Feb 22 06:03:11 UHCI is the Intel one Feb 22 06:03:23 I had to to research it a few months ago as my USB 1.1 BT dongle wouldn't start Feb 22 06:03:25 Oddly enough, UHCI is enabled in the stock kernel Feb 22 06:03:26 yep Feb 22 06:03:34 lazyness perhaps. Feb 22 06:03:42 ok, got a meeting now Feb 22 06:03:44 bbl Feb 22 06:03:47 I'm a performance freak so every byte counts. Feb 22 06:03:53 Fair enough. Need to change the config to OHCI instead of UHCI :) Feb 22 06:04:06 I'll give it a spin after to test it out. Feb 22 06:05:04 I wasn't paying enough attention to notice that it was loading UHCI which was wrong. Oops Feb 22 06:05:12 so I want EHCI and OHCI compiled in, and UHCI as module, correct? Feb 22 06:05:22 no problem there. I did the same thing. that's why I know. Feb 22 06:05:29 UHCI off probably Feb 22 06:05:35 Well, I'm not even sure you need it as a module actually. Feb 22 06:05:37 Sorry. dyoung was kidna right Feb 22 06:05:40 kinda Feb 22 06:05:43 hehe Feb 22 06:05:46 If you use the slave port then you don't even use UHCI Feb 22 06:06:02 You use the USB Gadget modules if you want to use the slave port Feb 22 06:06:15 yeah, unless the unused ports are use but that I don't know. Feb 22 06:06:18 it was a module before, so I'll leave it as a module Feb 22 06:06:29 safer Feb 22 06:06:31 k. sorry for the misinfo :) Feb 22 06:06:41 no harm done. Feb 22 06:06:56 I love this IRC thing. Feb 22 06:07:04 A big community. Feb 22 06:07:14 Just helping each other out. Feb 22 06:07:35 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2846 10openembedded/packages/linux/openslug-kernel-2.6.9/defconfig: Don't need UHCI compiled into switchbox after all Feb 22 06:07:39 * VoodooZ_Work is verklempted. :) Feb 22 06:07:55 verklempted? Feb 22 06:08:05 hehehe I know. I spelled really fast Feb 22 06:08:30 it's a fancy word that means you are sad or something. Feb 22 06:09:09 rwhitby@a11375-lnx:/home/slug/switchbox$ ls -l tmp/deploy/images/ Feb 22 06:09:09 total 884 Feb 22 06:09:09 -rw-r--r-- 1 rwhitby rwhitby 212795 Feb 21 21:39 switchbox-nslu2-20050221085719.rootfs.ext2.gz Feb 22 06:09:09 -rw-r--r-- 1 rwhitby rwhitby 680584 Feb 23 00:18 switchbox-nslu2-20050222132638.rootfs.ext2.gz Feb 22 06:09:10 actually, It's not a real word. Feb 22 06:09:24 I did a search and it's mostly an invented from saturday night live. Feb 22 06:09:25 hmm - looks like I need to trim down the new switchbox a bit :-) Feb 22 06:09:38 ouch Feb 22 06:10:01 the more flexibily, the more space. Feb 22 06:10:51 might have to pivot through jffs2 to get to external hard disk ... Feb 22 06:11:16 anyway, a problem for tomorrow Feb 22 06:11:30 yep. Great work. Feb 22 06:14:32 ahh - I forgot to force them all to static linked like I did for switchbox's busybox. wonder if that will make it smaller or larger .... Feb 22 06:14:54 I thought there were problems regarding statically linked binaries? Feb 22 06:14:59 It would make them larger anyway Feb 22 06:15:28 not necessarily - they may not be using most of uClibC and other other libraries that get pulled in Feb 22 06:16:12 * rwhitby-asleep will ponder that tomorrow ... Feb 22 06:16:51 Depends on whether overhead per binary < the size of the shared lib I guess Feb 22 06:18:11 * VoodooZ_Work starts adding his private changes to his fresh repo again... Feb 22 07:00:48 giel: http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/index.html Feb 22 07:02:34 samba: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html Feb 22 07:05:59 well some more books: http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/ Feb 22 07:08:07 bye, going home now.... Feb 22 08:37:01 hey Feb 22 08:37:35 any1? Feb 22 08:37:45 gotta prob with Samba Feb 22 08:39:29 samba doc: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html Feb 22 08:40:13 yeah but whenever i go on the web interface of my slug it says 'cannot get samba info' Feb 22 08:41:57 dunno Feb 22 08:44:59 Check the mail list archives. It has been discussed before. Feb 22 08:46:41 It's in the wiki Feb 22 08:47:04 Look in the HowTo page in the troubleshooting section Feb 22 08:49:08 VoodooZ_Work, it worked. ipkg-native is build Feb 22 08:49:13 good. Feb 22 08:49:29 I ran in some new unrelated problem in my case so the fun never ends :) Feb 22 08:49:44 :) Feb 22 08:49:57 *happy happy joy joy* Feb 22 08:50:12 [g2], rwhitby: I don't know if it's related to the latest changes but I'm getting this on bootup now: Feb 22 08:50:13 /sbin/init: error while loading shared Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Feb 22 08:50:13 libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot op en shared object file: No such file or directory Feb 22 08:50:46 This happens right after the VFS line and Freeing init memory: 80K lines. Feb 22 08:51:39 Keep in mind that I've started putting in my privates changes so It might just be me but I doubt it as I only added some bluetooth stuff and all. Feb 22 09:00:43 that's a problem with the rootfs/kernel command line/switchbox Feb 22 09:00:48 a combination of those Feb 22 09:55:21 hey peeps Feb 22 09:55:23 hey bron Feb 22 09:55:25 byron Feb 22 09:55:33 got another prob Feb 22 10:00:35 giel: Really? Feb 22 10:01:04 I'm not even supposed to be using switchbox though as I'm overriding it on the command line as suggested by [g2] to boot jffs2 directly Feb 22 10:01:09 VoodooZ_lunch: iirc there's a bug in the shlibdeps handling that occasionally results in libgcc not ending up in packages Depends when it should be. it usually isnt a problem, since it generally ends up being pulled into the image at some point Feb 22 10:04:09 euh? Feb 22 10:04:23 And how come is it a problem for me?? badluck? Feb 22 10:04:53 * kergoth_ shrugs Feb 22 10:05:51 hmm... either the beeping is off or the music is too loud for me to hear the laptop beeping Feb 22 10:06:34 Gorx, why don't ya head over to #nslu2-general Feb 22 10:07:02 VoodooZ_work: might want to ask pb_, he may recall the details Feb 22 10:09:35 Thanks kergoth_. I'll check with [g2] and rwhitby later too as they made lots of changes yesterday. Feb 22 10:10:44 np Feb 22 10:18:32 anybody here that installed apache/php and is running gallery and wants to tell me something about Netpbm or ImageMagick? Feb 22 10:20:49 ~nslu2-general Feb 22 10:20:50 #nslu2-general is the IRC channel specifically set up for end-user questions about the NSLU2 device. Questions that are not related to the nslu2-linux development projects should not be asked in #nslu2-linux, but should be asked in #nslu2-general instead. Feb 22 10:24:58 time for work...bbl Feb 22 10:38:15 Hi! How can I cross-compile some kernel modules with other settings than this from OE? Feb 22 10:38:56 "with other settings than this"? Feb 22 10:39:01 than what? Feb 22 10:39:03 settings? Feb 22 10:39:24 I need a nfsd module with support for rsize=32768 Feb 22 10:39:55 I know that I must enable MAXBLKSIZE in const.h Feb 22 10:40:00 okay, and? is that a configuration option in the kenrel, or do you need to apply a patch, or what? Feb 22 10:40:11 okay, so you need to patch the kernel tree oe builds from. Feb 22 10:41:32 How can I patch it, it's enough to change the ... /cross/armeb ... tree and then recompile? Feb 22 10:41:44 ? Feb 22 10:42:52 kergoth, check pm Feb 22 10:43:54 I have get OE to work. I can build with bitbake an image. After building this image, there are some new paths Feb 22 10:44:22 like /home/slug/build/tmp/deploy ..... Feb 22 10:45:09 ? Feb 22 10:45:31 Spooky8577, you should probably check the nslu2-linux mailing list Feb 22 10:46:08 @ByronT ok! Feb 22 10:52:23 My hope was , that the compiling process use an prefetch directory. There I would make my changes in const.h and then I can start a new compilation with my changes. I think it's to simple ? Feb 22 10:54:05 be back later... Feb 22 11:33:15 anybody here that installed apache/php and is running gallery and wants to tell me something about Netpbm or ImageMagick? Feb 22 11:40:48 peterroubos, what do you want to know? Feb 22 11:41:25 Well I used the apache/php ipkg packages and got it running fine Feb 22 11:41:49 installed Gallery, but it gives me an error about missing packages Feb 22 11:41:57 wait, will copy/paste Feb 22 11:42:33 Missing optional binary pnmcomp Feb 22 11:42:48 for Netpbm Feb 22 11:43:22 and Missing optional binary composite. for imagemagic Feb 22 11:44:03 It needs to have one of those two to function Feb 22 11:44:23 I know some people installed it and are runniing it un their slug Feb 22 11:45:47 So my question would be, what am I doing wrong Feb 22 11:49:56 i'm not using gallery myself, i'll look to see whether netpbm should include pnmcomp Feb 22 11:51:23 ok, a bit further on in the setup "it" talked about pnm2jpg (or something like that) that it was missing, and I searched, but couldnt find that. Feb 22 11:51:33 I'll look up the excact name Feb 22 11:54:55 peterroubos, you built netpbm yourself? Feb 22 11:56:41 Error: Could not find /share/hdd/conf/opt/bin/pnmtojpeg Feb 22 11:57:42 nope, and I dont know how I got it on it, I installed Imagemagick (ipkg) maybe it was also in there Feb 22 11:58:52 I'm not much of a builder, my last time realy using unix/linux was about 7 years ago, so I'm trying to rediscover (and have a lot to learn) Feb 22 11:59:23 ok, i'll look at imagemagick and see what's supposed to come with it Feb 22 12:01:54 ok, the files are located in /share/hdd/conf/opt/bin and there are about 30 of them Feb 22 12:06:04 there should be an /opt/bin/composite as part of imagemagick. do you have it? Feb 22 12:06:26 there is no netpbm package yet Feb 22 12:06:37 so, no pngtojpeg Feb 22 12:07:12 http://netpbm.sourceforge.net/ Feb 22 12:07:29 checking Feb 22 12:08:28 nope Feb 22 12:09:27 rwhitby-asleep: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/KernelConfig Feb 22 12:09:41 @perlguru, you think a N00b newbie like me could cross-compile that myself? Feb 22 12:10:08 any linux knowledge? Feb 22 12:10:19 running linux now? Feb 22 12:10:35 yuck, imagemagick packages /opt/lib/libltdl.so Feb 22 12:10:41 jp30 any other issues... Feb 22 12:10:48 just a little, but not realy with compiling stuff... Been years ago that I have "played" winux Feb 22 12:11:09 garpinc, issues with... ffmpeg? Feb 22 12:11:21 yes or other Feb 22 12:11:31 sory, w=l Runing cygwin Feb 22 12:11:48 garpinc, haven't looked at it further since we last talked Feb 22 12:12:00 mm, ok. i'll see what i can do for u. Feb 22 12:12:26 * perlguru updating unslung dev.env. Feb 22 12:13:18 peterroubos, can take a while: i have to make the package, then jp30 needs to test it ;) Feb 22 12:13:35 and upload it on the feed Feb 22 12:13:37 I have a few minutes ;) Feb 22 12:14:02 so how do I know? Feb 22 12:14:38 I mean when it's finished? Feb 22 12:15:38 peterroubos, this will take a couple of days at least probably. i am still learning the ropes as BuildMeister Feb 22 12:15:57 well, watch the channel and look for CIA to say netpbm is promoted ;) Feb 22 12:16:21 meanwhile, you might post to the yahoo list, and ask the other people who are using gallery how they did it Feb 22 12:16:51 i dont use the yahoo list Feb 22 12:17:29 perlguru, i meant for peterroubos to post to the yahoo list, if he is impatient :) Feb 22 12:17:44 OK, I will try that too Feb 22 12:17:55 I'm not impatient Feb 22 12:18:34 it's hobby, would like to have it running but if it doesn't... well, i'm still happy Feb 22 12:18:52 peterroubos, :) if you post it will hopefully cause those gallery users to document what they are doing! Feb 22 12:18:59 ...so go to it Feb 22 12:19:17 Well if I have it running I could make a post to the wiki Feb 22 12:19:26 that would be great Feb 22 12:19:51 No problem, must put kids to bed now.... CU l8r Feb 22 12:29:29 jp30, thanks for your pm about postfix. Adding LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the '$(MAKE) install' line does the trick. Feb 22 12:30:00 dyoung, are you arround? Feb 22 12:31:59 rwhitby told me you can give me access to the make.log of cyrus-imapd. Feb 22 12:35:19 pTweety, no probs. i can look at the make.log for you too... hang on... Feb 22 12:36:50 I'll be online for about another hour Feb 22 12:40:14 pTweety, my memory's failing me... cyrus-imapd is native-only, right? Feb 22 12:40:57 jepp Feb 22 12:41:46 there's no log for it on gastro, i'll try building it now and see what happens Feb 22 12:45:04 big fun: netpbm has its own config tool (not gnu) :( this make take some time... Feb 22 12:46:34 mmm, just noticed: dyoung was working on it ;) Feb 22 12:50:48 ping dyoung Feb 22 12:54:20 jp30, ask dyoung about netpbm. He created it initially. Feb 22 12:54:43 i'll let it be. I am off to bed now. Feb 22 12:54:45 just 1 little question, if I post to the Yahoo group, do I put [nslu2-linux] in the header myself or is that done automaticly Feb 22 12:55:12 perlguru, g'night! Feb 22 12:55:17 bye Feb 22 12:55:30 peterroubos, it's done automatically Feb 22 12:55:45 ok, going to post my question now.. Feb 22 12:56:15 pTweety, sorry, looks like i need to talk to other devs about permissions on gastro before i can test cyrus-imapd for you... Feb 22 12:56:45 no problem, I'm not in a hurry Feb 22 13:03:34 ka6sox, check pm... need to ask a question Feb 22 13:06:04 byronT: resend Feb 22 13:11:11 hmm? Feb 22 13:14:13 ah ok ay. Feb 22 13:14:45 jp30, I think I started looking at netpbm to supplement imagemagick. Feb 22 13:14:47 <[g2]> hey dyoung ! Feb 22 13:15:02 If someone wants to play with it, they should feel free. Feb 22 13:16:16 hey dyoung... i'll encourage perlguru to work on it. (and i'm having some trouble with permissions on gastro, can you help me out?) Feb 22 13:16:40 Ok, let me get back to you on gastro in 15 min. Feb 22 13:31:47 03ptweety * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/postfix.mk sources/postfix/rc.postfix): postfix is again ready for native only testing Feb 22 13:32:01 hey[g2] Feb 22 13:32:16 Did you see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/KernelConfig Feb 22 13:33:01 we put the ext usb had modules into the kernel last night, and now only have 10k left in kernel, so we're gonna take some unused stuff out. giel has done the analysis for us Feb 22 13:36:20 pTweety, ping? Feb 22 13:36:25 <[g2]> rwhitby-away, checking now, I saw the log about that Feb 22 13:37:10 jepp, I'm still not sleeping (even if I should ;-) Feb 22 13:37:13 [g2]: external disk with switchbox is ready for testing in OpenSlug-1.2 - I haven't tested it though Feb 22 13:38:19 pTweety, i have some cyrus-imapd errors for you... Feb 22 13:38:33 juhuu Feb 22 13:38:42 ...shall i email them to you? Feb 22 13:38:51 think it's the best Feb 22 13:39:51 <[g2]> rwhitby-away, I pulled 10 mintues ago and I'm building now Feb 22 13:40:12 I ran in some problems with the latest build. Feb 22 13:40:19 lib stuff Feb 22 13:40:46 Here's what I said earlier this morning: Feb 22 13:40:50 [g2], rwhitby: I don't know if it's related to the latest changes but I'm getting this on bootup now: Feb 22 13:40:50 /sbin/init: error while loading shared Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Feb 22 13:40:50 libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot op en shared object file: No such file or directory Feb 22 13:40:50 This happens right after the VFS line and Freeing init memory: 80K lines. Feb 22 13:40:50 Keep in mind that I've started putting in my privates changes so It might just be me but I doubt it as I only added some bluetooth stuff and all. Feb 22 13:41:28 pTweety, email on the way to you Feb 22 13:41:42 kergoth and pb said it was a long standing bug in OE but it's got to be something else. Feb 22 13:44:01 <[g2]> rwhitby-away, what to you think of pulling ext3 and jdb support and accessing the disks in recovery mode as ext2 ? Feb 22 13:44:32 [g2], that is the way most distro's handle it Feb 22 13:45:10 anyways. I'm leaving work now so bbl Feb 22 13:49:02 <[g2]> VoodooZ_log, The build booted just fine for me Feb 22 13:49:23 dang!! Feb 22 13:49:46 I did uncomment the jffs2 rootfs boot kernel command line. Feb 22 13:49:56 isn't that supposed to work? Feb 22 13:50:27 I'm leaving work now so I'll log back on in 10 minutes and I'll try a default switchbox install. Feb 22 13:50:29 later. Feb 22 13:51:36 pTweety, looks like you need -I$(STAGING_INCLUDE_DIR) Feb 22 13:51:54 for cyrus-imapd? Feb 22 13:52:22 <[g2]> VoodooZ_log, that worked for me before Feb 22 13:52:33 <[g2]> giel, around ? Feb 22 14:10:51 [g2], what's the default command line again? the /dev/ram0 one? Feb 22 14:12:20 <[g2]> Kernel command line: root=/dev/ram0 rw rootfstype=ext2,jffs2 initrd=0x01000000,10M init=/linuxrc mem=32M@0x00008.... Feb 22 14:12:40 <[g2]> VoodooZ_home, that last part was truncated on the minicom screen Feb 22 14:12:42 ok thanks. Feb 22 14:13:04 well, I'll just uncomment the original one. Feb 22 14:13:20 VoodooZ_home: you should keep a separate repo which is virgin without our local changes, then you could build that to determine whether problems are real, or your local changes .... Feb 22 14:14:07 yeah. I will Feb 22 14:14:23 now that I have the opteron box setup it's even easier. Feb 22 14:14:33 ok, back later Feb 22 14:14:35 1/2hour and I'll know. Feb 22 14:14:46 I'll start a virgin one too. Feb 22 14:16:21 03kin-kwok * 10unslung/sources/squid/squid.delay-start.sh: It will keep waiting until quotacheck is done Feb 22 14:19:06 <[g2]> rwhitby-away, .recovery works for me excepted /sbin/telnetd is missing Feb 22 14:25:43 <[g2]> rwhitby-away, both jffs2 and ext3 on the hd mount fine Feb 22 14:35:32 hry prrp Feb 22 14:35:35 peepsd* Feb 22 14:35:40 my NSLU2 is bust big time Feb 22 14:36:12 whenever i switch it on, it takes ages to do the little beep and then it refuses any sort of connection, be it telnet or web interface Feb 22 14:36:42 sounds like a bad flash and/or sysconf is toast Feb 22 14:37:21 shit what can i do? Feb 22 14:37:31 first, watch your language in here Feb 22 14:37:41 second, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/FailSambaInformation Feb 22 14:38:01 sorry Feb 22 14:38:03 ~nslu2-general Feb 22 14:38:04 #nslu2-general is the IRC channel specifically set up for end-user questions about the NSLU2 device. Questions that are not related to the nslu2-linux development projects should not be asked in #nslu2-linux, but should be asked in #nslu2-general instead. Feb 22 15:01:28 [g2]-away, nope. usign the switchbox based command line doesn't work either so I guess I'll trace back my steps. Feb 22 15:08:35 ka6sox: ping Feb 22 15:18:20 rwhitby-web- he's in as ka6sox-office Feb 22 15:18:42 thx Feb 22 15:25:12 rwhitby, when you have a chance, extdisk rootfs is broke because switchbox cant see /dev/sdax. I'll be able to look at it in around 8-10 hours. Feb 22 15:31:30 dyoung: I mounted stuff from /dev/sda1 in an openslug switchbox last night. Feb 22 15:31:52 <[g2]-away> It did it a couple minutes ago Feb 22 15:31:53 even mk2efs'd it. It's in the logs. Feb 22 15:32:15 <[g2]-away> just tried booting to .sda1 Feb 22 15:32:20 <[g2]-away> and looks like a panic Feb 22 15:32:36 <[g2]-away> Root filesystem will be mounted from /dev/sda1 ... Feb 22 15:32:36 <[g2]-away> o such device or address Feb 22 15:33:09 <[g2]-away> Preferred root device is /dev/sda1 (disk 1) Feb 22 15:33:09 <[g2]-away> Sleeping 10sec while waiting for disk... Feb 22 15:33:09 <[g2]-away> kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Feb 22 15:33:09 <[g2]-away> EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Feb 22 15:33:09 <[g2]-away> irq26: nobody cared Feb 22 15:33:10 <[g2]-away> PC is at ehci_watchdog+0xdc/0xe8 Feb 22 15:33:12 <[g2]-away> LR is at __mod_timer+0x8c/0xb4 Feb 22 15:33:14 <[g2]-away> pc : [] lr : [] Not tainted Feb 22 15:33:16 <[g2]-away> sp : c01dfed8 ip : ffff913e fp : c01dfef4 Feb 22 15:33:18 <[g2]-away> r10: c01dff7c r9 : c02119f8 r8 : c0217960 Feb 22 15:33:22 <[g2]-away> r7 : c01e1274 r6 : 60000013 r5 : c021a458 r4 : c0edd000 Feb 22 15:33:24 <[g2]-away> r3 : c0217bfc r2 : 00000009 r1 : c0edd1f4 r0 : 00000000 Feb 22 15:33:26 <[g2]-away> Flags: Nzcv IRQs on FIQs on Mode SVC_32 Segment kernel Feb 22 15:33:28 <[g2]-away> Control: 39FF Table: 002C4000 DAC: 0000001D Feb 22 15:33:30 <[g2]-away> [] (report_bad_irq+0x0/0xd0) from [] (do_level_IRQ+0x84/0xbc) Feb 22 15:33:32 <[g2]-away> r5 = 0000001A r4 = C0211ED8 Feb 22 15:33:34 <[g2]-away> [] (do_level_IRQ+0x0/0xbc) from [] (asm_do_IRQ+0x4c/0x150) Feb 22 15:33:37 OK ALREADY Feb 22 15:33:38 <[g2]-away> r6 = C01DE000 r5 = 0000001F r4 = C01DFEC4 Feb 22 15:33:39 WTF? Feb 22 15:33:40 <[g2]-away> [] (asm_do_IRQ+0x0/0x150) from [] (__irq_svc+0x20/0x60) Feb 22 15:33:42 <[g2]-away> [] (ehci_watchdog+0x0/0xe8) from [] (run_timer_softirq+0x17c/0x1b0) Feb 22 15:33:44 <[g2]-away> r6 = C01DFEF8 r5 = C0217BFC r4 = 00000000 Feb 22 15:33:47 egad man Feb 22 15:33:49 speaking of mk2efs - putting cpio, find, and mke2fs in switchbox (to allow initialisation of new disks from inside switchbox) will put us over the 2 block limit, so I propose that we leave external disk initialisation, and nfs root, using stuff from jffs2 (like it currently does for unslung) rather than trying to put anything more in switchbox Feb 22 15:33:51 whats with the flood? Feb 22 15:33:52 JEEZUS Feb 22 15:33:59 flood, schmud Feb 22 15:34:02 eeek Feb 22 15:34:10 I have seen hundreds of those Feb 22 15:34:25 [g2]: yeah I got that too, but the mount still seemed to work Feb 22 15:34:30 all that crap helps nobody - other than the first couple of lines Feb 22 15:34:53 do you really think someone will say "r7 : c01e1274" aha!! now it all makes sense! Feb 22 15:34:57 <[g2]-away> rwhitby-web, this was on the boot attempt to the hd Feb 22 15:35:14 yeah - it tries to mount it to check for /sbin/init and stuff. Feb 22 15:35:33 did it do anything after that, or was that the end of the show? Feb 22 15:35:43 <[g2]-away> oh I copied the linuxrc by accident :) Feb 22 15:36:18 this seems to related to the spurious irq26 things that people are seeing - irq26 is the ehci Feb 22 15:36:34 related? Feb 22 15:36:37 it *is* Feb 22 15:36:47 "closely related" :-) Feb 22 15:37:00 I get all that crap every time I get a "irq26: nobody cared" Feb 22 15:37:10 but it doesn't seem to hurt anything Feb 22 15:37:23 could it be a kernel bug? Feb 22 15:38:05 could be I suppose, or bad tuning in some scheduler Feb 22 15:39:35 for all I know it may be related to the 4000 interrupts/second from the CSR stuff Feb 22 15:41:15 jacques: how is that going? (modifying ixp425_eth for openslug) Feb 22 15:41:48 rwhitby-web, I haven't started Feb 22 15:43:13 <[g2]-away> Ok it's a timing issue because it didn't happen this time Feb 22 15:43:25 <[g2]-away> Root filesystem will be mounted from /dev/sda1 ... Feb 22 15:43:25 <[g2]-away> such device or add Feb 22 15:43:44 <[g2]-away> "/linuxrc: 166: cannot open dev/console: NoKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Feb 22 15:44:24 <[g2]-away> that's odd, we should be running /sbin/init Feb 22 15:44:25 gotta head home! Feb 22 15:44:34 i had that one before. itsbecause you don thave dev/console in your disk. Feb 22 15:45:04 dyoung: perhaps we can check for that in the rootfs suitability test Feb 22 15:45:20 check for /sbin/init or /bin/init, *and* /dev/console Feb 22 15:45:34 that would be a good idea. Feb 22 15:45:41 back later. Feb 22 15:45:58 <[g2]-away> I did a cp -ap from jffs2 to the hd Feb 22 15:46:04 <[g2]-away> I'd guess it'd be there Feb 22 15:48:08 [g2]-away: we used find and cpio for maintenance mode Feb 22 15:49:55 <[g2]-away> rwhitby-web, you mean the one's that aren't there or are on the jffs2 Feb 22 15:50:41 yeah - we put them in the base image on jffs2 for unslung, specifically so we could use them to copy a filesystem (in our case for maintenance mode) Feb 22 15:51:01 we should add them (and mke2fs if it's not there already) to the base image for openslug too Feb 22 15:51:16 you need the full ones, not the busybox ones Feb 22 15:51:57 <[g2]-away> you mean the busybox cp doesn't work properly ? Feb 22 15:52:36 <[g2]-away> tar is there Feb 22 15:53:47 for some reason (which I don't remember) we had to use find and cpio - cp and tar didn't cut it Feb 22 15:54:32 the reason will be in the logs somewhere :-) Feb 22 15:54:41 but I think it was to do with /dev stuff .... Feb 22 15:54:50 <[g2]-away> I'll check Feb 22 15:57:23 <[g2]-away> "/dev does look funny Feb 22 15:57:25 we need an openslug version of the "unsling" verb to describe preparing an openslug external disk or nfs root location Feb 22 15:57:57 then we need a script by that name in openslug-init :-) Feb 22 16:06:18 <[g2]-away> rwhitby-web, it's the dev devices Feb 22 16:06:41 <[g2]-away> I created console, sda* on the hd from the desktop and kinda boot to the hd Feb 22 16:07:26 <[g2]-away> root@nslu2:~# df Feb 22 16:07:26 <[g2]-away> Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on Feb 22 16:07:26 <[g2]-away> /dev/sda1 955 395 560 41% /initrd Feb 22 16:07:26 <[g2]-away> /dev/sda1 117995216 295088 116501360 0% / Feb 22 16:07:26 <[g2]-away> tmpfs 15164 16 15148 0% /var Feb 22 16:07:27 <[g2]-away> tmpfs 15164 0 15164 0% /media/ram Feb 22 16:08:03 * [g2]-away don't know why I haven't changed my nick back Feb 22 16:08:49 <[g2]> hey networking's up Feb 22 16:56:30 ka6sox-office: ping Feb 22 17:07:31 <[g2]> rwhitby, I'm booted to the hd Feb 22 17:35:38 <[g2]> wb Feb 22 17:36:48 who me? thank you Feb 22 17:37:05 I'm sitting here trying to figure out how pissed to get at my bank Feb 22 17:38:31 <[g2]> I guess that depends on what they did Feb 22 17:38:59 first they cut off my online bill pay ability (without telling me) Feb 22 17:39:27 then they cancelled the payments that I had sent Feb 22 17:39:52 <[g2]> doesn't sound good at all Feb 22 17:40:01 they have corrected the second part of that... but it looks like they have still cut off my access and now nothing is downloading Feb 22 17:41:53 so how do we go about the doco for OpenSlug? Feb 22 17:42:33 <[g2]> Good question. It's kinda a different animal from Unslung in many ways Feb 22 17:42:51 <[g2]> a clean start and also similiar to some other OE distros Feb 22 17:43:13 talking to dyoung - it sounds like the best bet would be for me to build and install myself Feb 22 17:43:20 <[g2]> kinda more like a server appliance Feb 22 17:43:39 what's doco? Feb 22 17:43:45 <[g2]> are you serial enabled ? Feb 22 17:43:50 <[g2]> hey beewoolie-away ! Feb 22 17:43:59 * beewoolie-away shells a peanut Feb 22 17:44:00 but if I am to write doco from a user standpoint - from the binary installation side, I think it might be better for binary install Feb 22 17:44:29 ? doco -> docu? Feb 22 17:44:30 <[g2]> Sure that makes total sense Feb 22 17:44:43 udoc? Feb 22 17:44:50 no, I am not serial enabled, but I purchased my "Frankenslug" last week Feb 22 17:45:06 <[g2]> beewoolie-away, there's a fair bit of documentation with Unslung thanks to ByronT and some others Feb 22 17:45:15 dyoung! Feb 22 17:45:31 (the original docu (doco) writer) Feb 22 17:45:47 ~praise ByronT Feb 22 17:45:49 All hail ByronT! Feb 22 17:46:06 <[g2]> I've heard that before and it's true Feb 22 17:46:24 blah.. I just reworded the doco, nbd Feb 22 17:46:43 <[g2]> beewoolie-away, OpenSlug is nearing a Beta release which will be our first binary release Feb 22 17:47:03 <[g2]> beewoolie-away, you've built and installed OpenSlug right ? Feb 22 17:47:17 [g2]: Nice. Just in time for me to do my first slug firmware upgrade. Feb 22 17:47:38 [g2]: I haven't done much with it. Most of my slug-time has been devoted to APEX issues. Feb 22 17:47:58 [g2]: I'd like to add USB storage support next. Feb 22 17:48:04 <[g2]> nod. you should build and run OpenSlug from OE Feb 22 17:48:46 my first big question about openslug - is serial enable a *requirement* or is it a big recommendation? Feb 22 17:48:46 <[g2]> then you can add yourself to the yahoo db and we'll get closer to the 20 alpha users we need for the beta (we have 17 of the needed 20) Feb 22 17:48:58 [g2]: I think I've built it....actually it looks like I built unslung. Let me kick-off an openslug build :=) Feb 22 17:49:11 <[g2]> thx Feb 22 17:49:21 <[g2]> you and ByronT would make 19 Feb 22 17:49:41 MACHINE nslu2, DISTRO openslug, right? Feb 22 17:50:03 <[g2]> nod. and save off or remove the build/tmp dir Feb 22 17:50:04 looks like Frankenslug will be OpenSlug then Feb 22 17:50:09 :) Feb 22 17:50:10 and bitbake openslug-image? Feb 22 17:50:14 <[g2]> exactly Feb 22 17:50:32 <[g2]> beewoolie-away, are you pointing to the symlinks or the full packages dir Feb 22 17:50:47 Um, I'm not sure what that means? Feb 22 17:51:04 <[g2]> does it parse 2000+ files ? Feb 22 17:51:08 Yeah. Feb 22 17:51:12 2069 Feb 22 17:51:15 <[g2]> that's the full boat Feb 22 17:51:42 <[g2]> there's a short-cut for Unslung where it only parse like 370 Feb 22 17:51:53 I don't have much patience for hacking on oe. I'm gonna let it ride for the time being. Feb 22 17:51:57 <[g2]> and OpenSlug will work the same way Feb 22 17:52:05 <[g2]> ok Feb 22 17:52:06 <[g2]> np Feb 22 17:52:37 <[g2]> this should be a fire and forget for a couple hours Feb 22 17:52:42 <[g2]> then all is fine Feb 22 17:53:12 <[g2]> beewoolie-away, are you pointing at the nslu2-linux repo ? Feb 22 17:53:25 I don't know what that is. I Feb 22 17:53:26 <[g2]> who's your "bk parent" Feb 22 17:53:27 [g2]: unless there are any other changes you're thinking of putting in, then I think it's time to start thinking about packaging up a release candidate binary out of OpenSlug 1.2-alpha ... Feb 22 17:53:32 I'm using the oe repo. Feb 22 17:53:50 Should I use the nslu2 one instead? Feb 22 17:53:56 yes Feb 22 17:53:56 I think I have room for it. Feb 22 17:54:05 <[g2]> beewoolie-away, You'll want to go to the nslu2-linux and pull and update Feb 22 17:54:17 OK. Let me check on it. Feb 22 17:54:25 good thing I've got oodles of disk space Feb 22 17:54:31 <[g2]> bk pull; bk -r co -q Feb 22 17:54:46 What's the url...save me from looking it up. Feb 22 17:55:20 <[g2]> rwhitby, I'd like to fix either busybox or add the find/cpio to the jffs2 parition Feb 22 17:55:47 <[g2]> or even add some minor support for the opensling Feb 22 17:57:30 <[g2]> beewoolie-away, If we add ext2 support to APEX then I then will be able to pull the kernel out of the rootfs and load it Feb 22 17:57:39 ok, my preference is to just add find, cpio and mke2fs to openslug-image, and then we can use them in switchbox from either unslung or openslug in the same way, and have the ability to opensling from recovery mode or from jffs2 boot Feb 22 17:57:44 [g2]: That's on the list, too. Feb 22 17:58:07 I'll take a look at some sample code and let you know how it looks. Feb 22 17:58:38 <[g2]> rwhitby, you mean add them to switchbox Feb 22 17:58:56 no, I mean in openslug-image Feb 22 17:59:13 switchbox then mounts the jffs2, and uses them from there. Feb 22 17:59:29 see maintenance mode in switchbox linux to see what I am talking about Feb 22 17:59:58 <[g2]> and if the jffs2 partition is hoses then maintenance mode is hosed Feb 22 18:00:25 yes, but recovery is still there, and you can load a jffs2 from a flash disk or something Feb 22 18:00:55 [g2]: I'll be damned. uboot doesn't support ext2. Feb 22 18:02:01 bbiab Feb 22 18:02:04 <[g2]> ok Feb 22 18:02:56 <[g2]> that was fast Feb 22 18:03:16 he isn't half fast Feb 22 18:04:40 [g2]: are we in sync on the cpio, find, mke2fs plan? Feb 22 18:05:43 <[g2]> I can check and find out where they are in OE Feb 22 18:06:00 <[g2]> and add them to the default image Feb 22 18:06:29 <[g2]> we probably need fdisk too Feb 22 18:15:22 cpio, findutils, e2fsprogs-mke2fs Feb 22 18:15:38 (the last one is an ipk from a e2fsprogs DEPENDS) Feb 22 18:24:21 [g2]: There are even more packages in the nslu2 archive! Feb 22 18:27:25 <[g2]> nslu2 archive ? Do you mean Unslung Packages ? Feb 22 18:47:29 [g2]: I must have something misconfigured. It isn't building when I use the nslu2 archive. Feb 22 18:48:05 <[g2]> beewoolie, did you do a pull ? Feb 22 18:48:12 Yeah.. Feb 22 18:48:21 [g2]: I think I forgot to do a get.... Feb 22 18:48:22 <[g2]> did you move build/tmp Feb 22 18:48:49 [g2]: I just clobber it. Feb 22 18:49:28 <[g2]> that's fine Feb 22 18:49:54 <[g2]> and you changed you conf/local.conf Feb 22 18:50:17 [g2]: How did that have to change? Feb 22 18:51:55 <[g2]> beewoolie, because that's where the distro /conf is defined Feb 22 18:52:05 [g2]: Yeah, tit that. Feb 22 18:52:11 :-) Feb 22 18:52:22 <[g2]> then how does it die ? Feb 22 18:52:33 [g2]: I just started it again. Feb 22 18:52:40 Now there are 2125 packages. Feb 22 18:53:24 <[g2]> I've build and run frotz (the Z-engine emulator) on the slug Feb 22 18:53:30 <[g2]> OpenSlug Feb 22 18:53:36 Nice. Feb 22 18:53:57 <[g2]> The Zork files are on the net, So I've played Zork 1 on OpenSlug Feb 22 18:55:08 <[g2]> All's building now ? Feb 22 18:55:17 It's running. Feb 22 18:55:24 <[g2]> cool Feb 22 18:55:27 I'll check on it later. Feb 22 18:55:32 <[g2]> great Feb 22 18:55:48 There is ext2 code in grub. Feb 22 18:56:01 <[g2]> I think grub does everyting Feb 22 18:56:17 [g2]: Yeah. ffs, too. Feb 22 18:56:18 <[g2]> I think they have personality files for the different fs's Feb 22 18:56:19 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: demoted perl-dbi Feb 22 18:56:32 [g2]: Personality files? I see source files. Feb 22 18:56:37 <[g2]> ffs ? Feb 22 18:56:55 ffs is part of mach Feb 22 18:57:28 <[g2]> hey I hear they *finally* booted GNU/Linux on that a month or so ago Feb 22 18:57:47 Mach is an OS kernel. What are you thinking of? Feb 22 18:58:59 <[g2]> that should probably be GNU/Hurd right ? Feb 22 19:00:44 [g2]: GNU/Hurd is an implementation of mach. It was originall from CMU, IIRC. Feb 22 19:01:20 <[g2]> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/04/028220&tid=117&tid=190&tid=1 Feb 22 19:02:03 [g2]: Whats that got to do with Linux? Feb 22 19:02:59 [g2]: They're just leaving out the history. GNU is implementing a version of the kernel. Just as Linux is an implementation of, say, SYSV. I may have the pedigree wrong, but the idea is the same. Feb 22 19:03:01 <[g2]> <[g2]> that should probably be GNU/Hurd right ? Feb 22 19:15:46 [g2]: That's what I'd say. Feb 22 19:16:59 <[g2]> beewoolie, the whole micro kernel things is *so dead* its like RISC/CISC Feb 22 19:18:29 [g2], it's strange, even my fresh repo is broken! I'm trying more stuff. Feb 22 19:19:15 [g2]: heh, micro kernel is still king in environments with hard real time requirements, like medicine, where QNX is still quite popular. Feb 22 19:19:59 [g2]: It's a fine abstraction, but performance suffers too much. I used the mach kernel at CMU when I was there. IMHO, it's someone's idea of beauty. Feb 22 19:20:04 VoodooZ_log: rm downloads/switchbox-4.8.tar.gz Feb 22 19:20:41 [g2]: It's kinda like this thing some people have with C. They think that language FROBOTZ is going to take over, but there is almost always someone willing to code in C and get a faster result. Feb 22 19:20:47 <[g2]> kergoth, last I looked in hard rt custom kernels were > 50% of the market Feb 22 19:21:19 dyoung, excuse the ignorance but how? Feb 22 19:21:35 But not >50% of development. Those figures are out-of-scale because of mobile phones, automobiles an the like. Feb 22 19:21:38 <[g2]> VoodooZ_movie, rm sources/switchbox-4.8.* Feb 22 19:21:44 ic Feb 22 19:22:01 <[g2]> assuming your source is in sources Feb 22 19:22:43 kergoth: I think that ARM is one of the most shipped architectures, but that doesn't mean most people know how to use it. Feb 22 19:22:54 * kergoth nods Feb 22 19:23:21 kergoth: hello kergoth. It's been a while since we've chatter. Feb 22 19:23:30 s/tter/tted/ Feb 22 19:24:21 <[g2]> beewoolie, it's all moving to the Linux borg :) Feb 22 19:24:28 <[g2]> just wait 5-10 years Feb 22 19:25:23 [g2]: Well, there's a lot of effort going into Linux because it's open. Duh. And a good segment of the people who use these commercial OSs don't need the hard rt. Linux is a great alternative... or it will be. Feb 22 19:26:57 <[g2]> beewoolie, nod. and I really think the GPL makes a big difference in innovation in the long run. Just look at linux in the last 10 years and how far BSD-4.4 lite has come Feb 22 19:27:15 * [g2] /rant off Feb 22 19:27:41 [g2]: Tell me more about BSD. I don't know much about how it compares. Feb 22 19:28:29 Is BSD-4.4 the commercial product? Feb 22 19:30:19 <[g2]> beewoolie, we'll one might argue that Wind River's non-Linux offerings is not a bunch more than a 4.4-lite clean up Feb 22 19:30:39 <[g2]> they bought BSDI and killed it right Feb 22 19:30:47 OK. Now I know what you mean. I thought I read that WR had switched to linux...no kidding. Feb 22 19:31:08 <[g2]> they did Feb 22 19:31:21 <[g2]> 3-4 months ago Feb 22 19:31:36 * beewoolie nods Feb 22 19:32:22 <[g2]> And I think its because FreeBSD, Wind River, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and MicroSoft all do their own things and to really share a bunch Feb 22 19:33:00 <[g2]> I forget whether it was 98 or 2K that uses the BSD IP stack Feb 22 19:33:42 Interesting. I don't think I knew that. I did know that the 98 stack sucked. Feb 22 19:33:53 2k Feb 22 19:35:15 2K and of course, now XP Feb 22 19:36:07 ByronT: So the BSD license lets them do what they want to with the code and not share, right? Feb 22 19:36:56 <[g2]> yup Feb 22 19:37:26 what [g2] said Feb 22 19:37:39 i hate it when people say the GPL is more free. the GPL is a voluntary sacrifice of _personal_ freedom in favor of the community benefit. Feb 22 19:37:39 So why would anyone contribute to BSD? Feb 22 19:37:58 <[g2]> well there are open projects where ppl share Feb 22 19:38:09 kergoth: it isn't free. It's open. Feb 22 19:38:15 <[g2]> but someone could just grab the code and sell it for a fortune Feb 22 19:38:19 * kergoth nods at beewoolie Feb 22 19:38:31 [g2]: do you mean Win2K? Feb 22 19:39:11 <[g2]> well M$soft incorported it into a products yes, but think lots of companies like Juniper Feb 22 19:39:19 there are plenty of open bsd licensed projects. look at openssh and all the other projects that came out of there. just companies arent obligated to release their changes, so it tends to be entirely voluntary work Feb 22 19:39:24 heh Feb 22 19:39:27 ah well Feb 22 19:39:28 <[g2]> used BSD as the basis of their router OS Feb 22 19:39:42 mm, pizza. Feb 22 19:39:53 whatever. I don't see why anyone would contribute that that project. Feb 22 19:40:05 Mmm.... Noodles.... ;-) Feb 22 19:40:08 ewww... don't start with food, it's late and I haven't had supper Feb 22 19:40:19 * [g2] loves pizza Feb 22 19:40:32 * beewoolie eats the last of the tofu/broccoli/rice extravaganza Feb 22 19:40:52 back later. Feb 22 19:43:13 * beewoolie watches OpenSlug build. Kinda like watching a commercial dryer Feb 22 19:50:56 later all Feb 22 19:50:58 * VoodooZ_movie crazes pizza right now Feb 22 19:51:03 <[g2]> nite Feb 22 19:51:15 later Feb 22 19:59:35 later Feb 22 20:07:45 [g2], I just flashed a fresh cloned repo with no mods and it still gives: Root filesystem will be mounted from /dev/mtdblock4 .../usr/sbin/chroot: error while loading sKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! hared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: can not open shared object file: No such file or directory Feb 22 20:08:17 The only thing left is the fact that I'm running it on the opteron using -j 7. would that screw it up? Feb 22 20:08:51 <[g2]> VoodooZ_movie, sounds like the error you were having before Feb 22 20:09:11 <[g2]> are you missing that patch ? Feb 22 20:09:39 <[g2]> And I'd try a j 1 or serial compile Feb 22 20:10:00 patch? Feb 22 20:12:26 <[g2]> VoodooZ_log, did CP give you something for the Opteron ? Feb 22 20:17:08 no, just said there has been problems with newest version of ipkg under x86-64 so he made me revert to an older working version. Feb 22 20:17:50 <[g2]> ah Feb 22 20:18:12 I"m rebuilding with no -j option this time. Feb 22 20:18:29 I'll do the same on the old xeon machine. Feb 22 20:18:45 ls Feb 22 20:18:52 * beewoolie grimaces Feb 22 20:57:47 ode...are you there? Feb 22 20:58:51 odyoung-l, ping Feb 22 21:29:01 anyone on? Feb 22 21:29:30 or rather awake? Feb 22 21:34:58 jp30, up for a question? or two? Feb 22 21:35:19 hi samms71, fire away Feb 22 21:35:33 wait a sec..dog wants out...brb Feb 22 21:39:26 k...i want to modify the memory on my slug to 64MB. i read the fatslug howto but i can't find the linux source files to modify in the bitbake packages tree. i have a build env setup w/ bitbake on gentoo, i can build code but where do i see the code to modify it? Feb 22 21:40:22 samms71, you need someone who's more of a firmware / hardware guru than me Feb 22 21:40:50 i haven't touched a soldering iron in oh... Feb 22 21:41:00 jp30...thx anyway then...i got the hardware part down it's just finding the code part that i am having problem with.. Feb 22 21:41:19 jp30 can't find a .h file that i need to modify.. Feb 22 21:43:37 what's the .h file part of? the kernel? Feb 22 21:46:47 the howto mentions a ipx4xx.h file to config the arm chip selects. Feb 22 21:48:25 i see... yes, you need someone more with more hardware know-how than me Feb 22 21:48:44 ok...thx.. Feb 22 22:28:44 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promoted perl-db-file and postfix Feb 22 22:50:18 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote ffmpeg, lame, xvid; demote libdvdread, transcode Feb 22 22:50:44 cool Feb 22 22:51:06 what's the problem with libdvdread and transcode? Feb 22 22:51:52 libdvdread is missing a file, you probably forgot to check it in Feb 22 22:52:01 transcode ... well, it's weird, but.... Feb 22 22:52:01 WHich file? Feb 22 22:52:39 libdvdread: sources/libdvdread/libdvdread.conf is missing Feb 22 22:52:50 transcode: zcat: .../unslung/downloads/transcode-1.0.0beta2.tar.gz: not in gzip format Feb 22 22:53:02 (told you the problem with transcode was weird) Feb 22 22:53:33 I don't have that conf file in my sources???? Feb 22 22:53:43 it's not in cvs Feb 22 22:54:37 my guess about the transcode problem is that the server you download it from might be silently ungzipping it before sending it on Feb 22 22:54:43 It's not in cvs because I don't have it. Feb 22 22:54:55 What's the error? Feb 22 22:54:55 odd Feb 22 22:55:31 install -d /home/unslung/packages/builds/libdvdread-0.9.4-ipk/opt/etc/ Feb 22 22:55:31 install -m 644 /home/unslung/packages/sources/libdvdread/libdvdread.conf /home/unslung/packages/builds/libdvdread-0.9.4-ipk/opt/etc/libdvdread.conf Feb 22 22:55:31 install: cannot stat `/home/unslung/packages/sources/libdvdread/libdvdread.conf': No such file or directory Feb 22 22:55:31 make: *** [/home/unslung/packages/builds/libdvdread_0.9.4-1_armeb.ipk] Error 1 Feb 22 22:55:32 make: Leaving directory `/home/unslung/packages' Feb 22 22:55:46 that's during libdvdread-ipk Feb 22 22:57:13 Thatd do it I guess I never tries to do an ipk. I'll fix the make file.. Feb 22 22:59:09 garpinc, it's always a good idea to try building an ipk; there are lots of things that can go wrong during make install when cross-compiling Feb 22 22:59:24 03garpinc * 10unslung/make/libdvdread.mk: ipk packaging Feb 22 22:59:35 yes I probably just plain forgot... Feb 22 22:59:40 That should work... Feb 22 23:02:17 wrt transcode it's wierd when I click on link on site it tries to download file transcode-1.0.0beta2.tar.tar Feb 22 23:03:39 On site http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode Feb 22 23:06:34 can you get it from an ftp site instead? Feb 22 23:06:40 ...or a mirror? Feb 22 23:07:05 cvs but that will take some time... Feb 22 23:07:48 best to avoid cvs if you could get it with http / ftp instead Feb 22 23:08:59 I looked at the mirrors mentioned and I did not see the beta tarball so it's going to have to be cvs Feb 22 23:14:11 hmm... it may have to be... Feb 22 23:18:54 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promoted libdvdread; renamed cross build machine Feb 22 23:36:01 dyoung-logger: ping **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 22 23:59:56 2005