**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 05 23:59:56 2005 Mar 06 00:01:15 yep Mar 06 00:05:12 its actually good...I've been laying out a board. Mar 06 00:17:49 dyoung: ping Mar 06 00:29:34 hmm - ipkg upgrade of base-files turned ehci back on and my rootfs won't load off the external disk :-( Mar 06 00:29:45 good thing we have fall-back to internal flash .... Mar 06 00:29:46 oops Mar 06 00:31:03 need to add some CONFFILES to lots of .bb files Mar 06 00:34:11 rwhitby-away, it won't load from external disk because it's through a hub? Mar 06 00:45:53 yeah, 2.6.9 is broken for accessing things through a usb 2.0 hub Mar 06 00:46:19 disable the ehci module, and it works fine with usb 1.1 compatibility mode Mar 06 00:53:16 there is a russian howto for getting unslung to work. Mar 06 00:54:04 cool Mar 06 00:54:09 did nikki write it? Mar 06 00:55:48 rwhitby-away, what about 2.6.11 ? Mar 06 00:56:10 dunno yet, still getting my setup stable with 2.6.9 so the move to 2.6.11 can be a controlled experiment Mar 06 00:56:43 someone else could easily test a usb-serial cable attached to a usb 2.0 hub on openslug 2.6.11 to verify if the problem is still there. Mar 06 00:57:14 rwhitby-away: it was written by Jim Buzbee Mar 06 00:57:29 I'm resolved to add CONFFILES settings to all packages from which I manually modify files after installation. Then my changes won't get blown away next time I do an ipkg upgrade on openslug. Mar 06 00:57:43 if someone else actually had a usb hub Mar 06 00:58:02 I have a USB2 hub but I'm waiting Mar 06 00:58:06 yeah, VoodooZ only had a 1.1 hub Mar 06 01:00:57 Can we remove lrzsz from the openslug image please? Mar 06 01:01:13 (I can do it, I'm just looking for consensus) Mar 06 01:01:34 why do you want to remove it ? Mar 06 01:03:03 looks useful to me. Mar 06 01:03:23 yeah it's the only way to xfer files if net isn't working Mar 06 01:03:28 yep Mar 06 01:03:35 usb flash key? Mar 06 01:03:53 assuming one has one Mar 06 01:03:55 I can see using it myself Mar 06 01:04:08 are you really telling me someone will transfer a new image via serial (which no-one has) instead of a flash key or hard disk plugged into usb? Mar 06 01:04:10 on OpenSlug Mar 06 01:04:18 i just wanna know why you want to remove it? is it taking tons of space? Mar 06 01:04:23 ok, request withdrawn Mar 06 01:04:25 nope..going to use it for other purposes. Mar 06 01:04:34 I've used it to xfer ipks Mar 06 01:04:49 just looking for things that no-one uses, in kernel and rootfs. Guess that wasn't one :-) Mar 06 01:04:53 heh Mar 06 01:04:59 I need it for downloading images for programming things. Mar 06 01:05:14 (openjtag stuff) Mar 06 01:11:14 morning! Mar 06 01:12:00 morning Mar 06 01:16:02 ah, the alignment-patch made it to oe, nice! :) Mar 06 01:17:21 kergoth: any objections to me adding CONFFILES declarations to any OE packages where I find myself editing a config file after installation? Mar 06 01:25:20 * siddy_ gets angry... Mar 06 01:25:41 okay, after 50 hours of extreme-torrenting my slug decided to take a brake once again... Mar 06 01:25:49 ouch Mar 06 01:26:06 so, 2.6.11 seems to be still a bit unstable, but better than 2.6.9. :\ Mar 06 01:26:50 and -- of course -- it crashes just in the moment i have no netconsole running. so no stackdump, nothing... Mar 06 01:26:53 * siddy_ cries Mar 06 01:37:48 still sick? Mar 06 01:37:50 bummer Mar 06 04:27:19 ka6sox: Yes :-( But my slug isn't. Happy running Unslung 4.3 alpha! Mar 06 04:27:46 Trying to hook up a DVD burner, printer, FAT32 disk, webcam and let everything work. Mar 06 04:43:32 <[g2]> dyoung, to the rescue ! Mar 06 04:43:45 <[g2]> THX, I thought I checked in the patch Mar 06 04:50:23 rwhitby-away: Bad news about Unslung 4.3 alpha. When hooking up Linksys USB hub with a device connected, I get a kernel page fault when cat'ing devices in that dir. Seems even "ls" is enough Mar 06 04:50:45 "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 534c4f58" Mar 06 04:51:09 And lots of nice register. fp=00000000 Mar 06 04:51:21 (add zero's for good measures) Mar 06 04:51:56 When I say "that dir" I mean /proc/bus/usb Mar 06 04:52:02 Still sick :-( Mar 06 04:53:12 Does not happen when nothing connected to the hub or when device directly connected to the slug Mar 06 04:53:38 Got the register dump if anyone wants to have a look Mar 06 04:54:07 The kernel keeps running, though the "cat" or "ls" PID cannot be killed Mar 06 04:57:52 Don't know the ARM5 architecture, but my guess is stack overwrite Mar 06 05:01:48 Mar 6 13:45:16 Naseem Backtrace: no frame pointer Mar 06 06:40:30 Has anyone glib-2.0 compiled succesful with OE? Mar 06 06:41:58 <[g2]> Spooky8577, that's old right ? Mar 06 06:43:50 it is Mar 06 06:43:58 we're at 2.6 now? Mar 06 06:44:11 I need glib for the mono package, and I can compile glib-2.0-native-2.6.2-r1 Mar 06 06:45:31 but then it starts to configure glib-2.0-2.6.3 and I get an error like Mar 06 06:46:15 couldn't find libraries for thread implementation Mar 06 06:52:26 I have tried also to "./configure" the glib-2.0-2.6.3 sources separate on my local machine and there I don't get such messages. Mar 06 06:54:26 03ingeba * 10unslung/Makefile: Added syslog-ng to cross Mar 06 06:55:20 Could it be , that i should exports some extra PATH entry's or something else? Mar 06 06:56:06 <[cc]smart> Hi all... i installed a couple of python modules, but i don't find the one that resolves this one for me... some suggestions ? Mar 06 06:56:09 <[cc]smart> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/threading.py", line 13, in ? Mar 06 06:56:09 <[cc]smart> from collections import deque Mar 06 06:56:09 <[cc]smart> ImportError: No module named collections Mar 06 06:56:27 <[cc]smart> which pacakge is that in ? Mar 06 07:00:52 [cc]smart, I also had that problem before and found no real solution. Mar 06 07:01:14 i ended up compiling python on openslug, worked perfect. Mar 06 07:01:24 (and gave me threading.py) Mar 06 07:01:48 <[cc]smart> aaaah Mar 06 07:01:52 <[cc]smart> :/ Mar 06 07:02:18 <[cc]smart> well thrading is there .. Mar 06 07:02:38 <[cc]smart> hmm Mar 06 07:02:49 <[cc]smart> seems doctest and unittest contain sth. along the lines.... Mar 06 07:02:52 <[cc]smart> one sec Mar 06 07:04:43 <[cc]smart> unittest was no go. where could doctest be in ? Mar 06 07:09:39 <[cc]smart> seems that's the point Mar 06 07:09:55 <[cc]smart> in the openembedded package i found no module that includes doctest Mar 06 07:10:02 <[cc]smart> but unittest is Mar 06 07:10:09 <[cc]smart> so there's that package missing Mar 06 07:10:40 <[cc]smart> <- votes for adding a python-doctest.yadayada.ipk and threading one depend on that Mar 06 07:11:01 <[cc]smart> but will go and verify first... Mar 06 07:12:57 <[g2]> siddy-away, do you have a native toolchain ? Mar 06 07:13:04 <[g2]> or just building using OE ? Mar 06 07:15:16 <[cc]smart> bummer. didn't solve it.. does adding pythin modules need some kind of dependecy file rebuild or such ? Mar 06 07:15:35 <[cc]smart> wouldn't think so Mar 06 07:23:05 <[cc]smart> aaah, which sillyness Mar 06 07:23:17 <[cc]smart> ./lib-dynload/collections.so Mar 06 07:23:25 <[cc]smart> *bangs head at wall* Mar 06 07:25:45 <[cc]smart> much better Mar 06 07:25:55 <[cc]smart> now where should that file be part of ? Mar 06 07:25:57 <[cc]smart> threading ? Mar 06 07:26:25 <[cc]smart> core prolly Mar 06 07:27:34 <[cc]smart> in any case, that file should be added to one of the python packages Mar 06 07:30:09 [g2], yeah, I have a native toolchain. Mar 06 07:31:57 <[g2]> siddy-away, did you build most of it cross or native ? Mar 06 07:32:23 <[g2]> bbiaf Mar 06 07:32:46 most of what? I built the whole toolchain vie OE. bb gcc binutils was all, I guess. Mar 06 07:32:56 s/vie/via Mar 06 07:43:50 rwhitby-away: The USB failure is preceeded by the kernel error message "usb.c: not enough configurations" Mar 06 07:44:00 <[cc]smart> is there a python function nowadays that picks up a single keystroke from the keyboard ? Mar 06 07:54:22 <[cc]smart> ok, works. os it's verified. "ImportError: No module named collections" is due to "/lib-dynload/collections.so" missing from python library path. the file is existing in the OE work directory of python though, so it will just have to be added to some package. which is out of my scope :) Mar 06 07:54:43 <[cc]smart> "which" meaning, to choose which. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 11:20:55 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 11:24:04 2005 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 11:30:27 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 11:34:05 2005 Mar 06 11:48:50 <[cc]smart> ~bang Mar 06 11:48:51 Open Source multi-user 3D browser. URL: http://bang.is/ Mar 06 11:49:59 <[cc]smart> how to remove silly entries ? Mar 06 11:50:16 ? Mar 06 11:51:11 <[cc]smart> this jbot entry is not valid anymore, how can one make jbot gorget it ? Mar 06 11:51:26 with .. forget.. perhaps? Mar 06 11:51:28 ~forget bang Mar 06 11:51:48 <[cc]smart> ~bang Mar 06 11:51:49 Open Source multi-user 3D browser. URL: http://bang.is/ Mar 06 11:51:51 bah, stupid bot. forgot it cant remove factoids older than a certain date Mar 06 11:51:58 <[cc]smart> :) Mar 06 11:52:05 14:51 cannot remove factoid 'bang', too old. (12848.8273842593>9000) use 'no,' instead Mar 06 11:52:18 jbot: no, bang is BANG! Mar 06 11:52:20 okay, kergoth Mar 06 11:52:23 ~forget bang Mar 06 11:52:25 damn Mar 06 11:52:26 oh well Mar 06 11:52:57 <[cc]smart> kergoth: ~forget bang :D Mar 06 11:53:18 ~emulate stewie Mar 06 11:53:19 Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. Mar 06 12:53:06 <[cc]smart> which package carries adjtimex Mar 06 12:58:13 it is its own package Mar 06 12:58:27 unless its in ntp Mar 06 12:59:18 <[cc]smart> not in ntp Mar 06 12:59:25 ntpclient Mar 06 12:59:28 <[cc]smart> and no own package Mar 06 12:59:32 <[cc]smart> seen no ntpclient Mar 06 12:59:48 [ ] ntpclient_2003_194-1..> 02-Mar-2005 14:56 9k Mar 06 12:59:52 <[cc]smart> but it seems to me hwclock should be able to achieve similar effect Mar 06 13:00:34 <[cc]smart> i don't know where that ntpclient is from, but there's none in oe if it's not hidden under some name i couldn't think of :) Mar 06 13:01:00 <[cc]smart> i will try to understand hwclock better for now and see what it can do Mar 06 13:03:31 those are where I would expect it to be... Mar 06 13:04:47 [cc]smart, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/FixTheClockUsingAdjtimexAndNtpclient Mar 06 13:08:15 <[cc]smart> [g2]: is sysconfsetup called on every boot ? Mar 06 13:08:37 <[cc]smart> ka6soy-away: yes, read that. that's how i came to adjtimex Mar 06 13:09:00 <[cc]smart> [g2]-away: is sysconfsetup called on every boot ? Mar 06 13:21:12 <[cc]smart> ah, so much better. there's an equivalent in openslug which is tickadj. but against the suggestion in wiki which says to set it to 10000 (which changes nought, since that's default) setting it to 10100 is way better. Mar 06 13:21:51 [cc]smart, I'm not done fixing the clock in openslug yet. Mar 06 13:22:10 <[cc]smart> ? what's going on with it ? Mar 06 13:22:18 if you build it today, linux time will be set correctly, but hwclock will still report its one month fast. Mar 06 13:22:29 I know what th eissue is, just havnt gotten around to fixing it. Mar 06 13:23:37 <[cc]smart> tickadj 10100 seems to have fixed it for the moment. what's your intention (roughly) Mar 06 13:24:26 <[cc]smart> NTP was just not trusting it's own butt for the big drift Mar 06 13:29:13 <[cc]smart> hmmm seems it moight not hook into the kernel though... Mar 06 13:29:20 <[cc]smart> will have to give it some time to see Mar 06 13:34:49 the problem is the rtc reports its one month later than it really is. Mar 06 13:35:28 and the reason is the rtc interface in the kernel wants the month as 0-11, but the i2c x1205 rtc reports it in 1-12. Mar 06 13:46:18 <[cc]smart> ah, ok. but that's a different category than drift :) Mar 06 13:46:52 <[cc]smart> nice. ntp hooked in Mar 06 13:47:08 <[cc]smart> so tickadj 10100 does the trick Mar 06 13:47:35 <[cc]smart> [g2]-away: some bootscript for openslug should carry tickadj 10100 as payload Mar 06 13:48:41 <[cc]smart> frequency 121.260 ppm that's acceptable Mar 06 14:03:34 [g2] around? Mar 06 14:20:57 <[cc]smart> [g2]-away: tickadj is part of ntp, so i'm wrong. should not be in sysconf or such Mar 06 14:26:07 <[g2]> dyoung, ping Mar 06 14:30:20 [g2], doy ou know offhand what the best strategy to take is when trying to add a 3rd party device driver to our openslug image? Mar 06 14:30:46 <[g2]> insmod :) Mar 06 14:30:54 add it to oe, add it to the bootstrap variables. whats the question? Mar 06 14:30:55 heh Mar 06 14:31:01 http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc looks promising to fulfill one of my want parameters Mar 06 14:31:34 kergoth, so at what point does it get downloaded and stuff? that info must go somewhere.. Mar 06 14:31:44 dyoung: ? Mar 06 14:31:49 i dont get the question Mar 06 14:32:06 if you add it to oe, the sources get downloaded in do_fetch for that .bb Mar 06 14:32:15 just like every other package Mar 06 14:32:24 <[g2]> just like the ixp4xx stuff Mar 06 14:32:59 Okay, then thats the question. Do I make a foo.bb for the external kernel module, then make them depend on (whatever) and to get it in the image do the bootstrap bit? Mar 06 14:33:43 i just told you. you add it to the image the same way you add anything else to the image Mar 06 14:34:12 <[g2]> kergoth, I think dyoung is correctly saying that it doesn't create a dependency between the kernel and the modules Mar 06 14:34:14 either make task-bootstrap depend on it via the BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_ variables in your .conf files, or you modify openslug-image.bb to add it Mar 06 14:34:19 [g2]: huh? Mar 06 14:34:24 we have bbclasses that do all that. Mar 06 14:34:29 if you're a module, inherit mdoule and call it done Mar 06 14:34:37 <[g2]> ok Mar 06 14:34:41 adds virtual/kernel to the deps automatically Mar 06 14:34:48 why dont you look at some existing out of tree kernel module builds? Mar 06 14:34:49 <[g2]> that's what the ixp4xx stuff does Mar 06 14:34:51 like orinoco Mar 06 14:34:56 and hostap Mar 06 14:34:58 Aha, "inherit module" is the answer. Thanks. Mar 06 14:34:59 and ixp, yes Mar 06 14:35:06 there are plenty of examlpes Mar 06 14:35:10 examples, even Mar 06 14:35:14 <[g2]-dinner> pizza time Mar 06 14:35:18 hmm.. pizza.. Mar 06 14:35:19 enjoy! Mar 06 14:35:22 <[g2]-dinner> thx Mar 06 14:35:25 mmmm...pizza Mar 06 14:35:33 kergoth: any objections to me adding CONFFILES to OE packages where I find that the user usually edits a configuration file after installation (e.g. bluetooth pin file, or openssh sshd_config file or mgetty mgetty.config file, ...) ? Mar 06 14:35:38 Following the wiki instructions for new packages, I seem to have made a vim 6.3 package that seems to work. Any good way to QA my package, beyond testing that vim runs ? Mar 06 14:35:43 rwhitby-away: go for it. we havent been very good about doing that Mar 06 14:36:00 rwhitby-away: basically, we havent had many people doing ipkg upgrades at all. Mar 06 14:36:14 kergoth: cool - I'm going to try and be religious about it as I configure my openslug box here Mar 06 14:36:21 sounds good Mar 06 14:36:24 matt_lin, have you checked it in? Mar 06 14:36:35 no .. I need to get sf access etc. Mar 06 14:36:43 I think I have an account somewhere.. been a while Mar 06 14:37:10 matt_lin: post the .mk file to the mailing list, then we'll take a look at it and give you CVS access Mar 06 14:37:18 okay...did you use the template.mk file as your guide? Mar 06 14:37:32 roger. I have a question about depencies as well Mar 06 14:37:42 ka6sox: did use template Mar 06 14:37:53 matt_lin: this is the place to ask them :-) Mar 06 14:37:55 cool..htanks. Mar 06 14:38:26 The only real dependancies that vim has (at least the console mode one Im making) is for ncurses. Mar 06 14:38:30 build time deps need the -stage stuff, run time goes in control file, comma separated. Mar 06 14:40:01 kergoth: I'm going to try and keep one box in sync via ipkg upgrade only. See how it goes ... Mar 06 14:41:04 back later Mar 06 14:41:40 from the wiki Mar 06 14:41:41 Native packages are often demoted because they assume some other package is installed, when in fact it needs to be explicitly staged first. Mar 06 14:42:03 How do I mention the -stage stuff ? Mar 06 14:42:04 <[cc]smart> i'm close to suggesting ntp should be a standard package in openslug just to have tickadj available Mar 06 14:43:10 add to Mar 06 14:43:10 vim-stage: $(VIM_BUILD_DIR)/.staged Mar 06 14:43:11 ? Mar 06 14:43:56 matt_lin, look at screen...it has the same dependency Mar 06 14:44:02 roger Mar 06 14:44:03 thanks Mar 06 14:44:06 yw Mar 06 14:55:51 regarding compiling: do I need to test crosscompiling, or can I assume that if I make it work on a slug, it will work cross ? Mar 06 15:05:45 matt_lin, you did this natively on a slug? Mar 06 16:55:03 I did it natively , yes. Mar 06 21:15:47 wb jbot Mar 06 21:15:56 jbot welcome back Mar 06 21:16:00 Howdy back | It is good to see you back | back, Sup yo? Mar 06 21:16:07 heh Mar 06 21:17:40 ~botsnack Mar 06 21:17:40 dyoung: aw, gee Mar 06 21:33:42 jbot get a clue Mar 06 21:33:43 * jbot looks desperately for clues. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 21:56:37 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 22:26:04 2005 Mar 06 22:41:39 maintainence period for www.nslu2-linux.org Mar 06 22:41:46 kernel upgrade. Mar 06 22:45:28 everyone's doing 2.6.11 :-) Mar 06 22:45:44 yeah...buzy bee's **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 23:18:05 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 23:24:04 2005 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 23:30:23 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 15:40:05 2005 Mar 06 15:58:57 morning Mar 06 16:22:43 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2997 10openembedded/packages/openslug-init/openslug-init_0.10.bb: Mar 06 16:22:43 Merge bk://nslu2-linux@nslu2-linux.bkbits.net/openembedded Mar 06 16:22:43 into home.(none):/home/openslug/openembedded Mar 06 16:22:47 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2973.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Added CONFFILES to a number of packages Mar 06 16:29:57 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2998 10openembedded/packages/base-files/base-files_3.0.14.bb: Added CONFFILES to base-files for all distros, not just nylon Mar 06 16:31:58 hello! Mar 06 16:32:19 g'day Mar 06 16:34:41 i don't know if it has been answered on the ml and i can't find it on the wiki but i'm unable to install bash (i upgraded busybox). It seems that ncurses has some conflicts with the late busybox version Mar 06 16:38:19 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2999 10openembedded/packages/base-files/base-files_3.0.14.bb: Mar 06 16:38:19 Made /etc/resolv.conf a real file instead of a symlink for OpenSlug, so that it Mar 06 16:38:19 can be referenced in CONFFILES. Fixed the CONFFILES so that they are correct Mar 06 16:38:19 for standard, nylon and openslug distros (standard distro cannot list Mar 06 16:38:19 /etc/resolv.conf, whereas nylon and openslug can). Mar 06 16:38:49 Who's gonna get changeset 3000 .... Mar 06 16:39:22 quick, make a bogus change! Mar 06 16:39:35 :) Mar 06 16:40:23 If I could think of something pithy to say in the checkin comment, I would .... Mar 06 16:42:17 "increased performance by 0%" Mar 06 16:42:26 :) Mar 06 16:42:43 decreased kernel size by 0% Mar 06 16:43:01 "Added:" Mar 06 16:44:42 "Made a change and verified that it did not adversely affect functionality" Mar 06 16:46:56 I have to re-install unslung on devslug so that I can upload the weekly EPG to my toppy :-( Mar 06 16:59:32 ugh Mar 06 17:01:13 oh in fact it has been answered on the ml haha Mar 06 17:01:18 arg Mar 06 17:33:40 autoconf is not in http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/unstable/Packages.gz but the package is present in the directory Mar 06 17:39:23 is it normal? Mar 06 17:40:59 you should be looking in cross or native, not unstable Mar 06 17:41:13 ha Mar 06 17:44:14 Hmm, I could try g et 3000 with pwc.... Mar 06 17:59:07 03dyoung 07 * r1.2996.1.1 10openembedded/packages/pwc/ (pwc_10.0.6a.bb files/Makefile): Phillips chipset based USB camera driver Mar 06 18:00:18 Okay Maybe the completed clock fix can be 3000. ;-) Mar 06 18:17:10 you should have pulled first :-) Mar 06 18:17:20 I did pull first. Mar 06 18:17:28 it said I was 3000 when I pushed. ;-) Mar 06 18:17:37 But it used the old number. Mar 06 18:17:57 pulled before making the changes :-) Mar 06 18:18:22 hehe Mar 06 18:18:23 oh well. Mar 06 19:59:44 poor bob Mar 06 20:00:02 morning perlguru Mar 06 20:00:25 he Mar 06 20:06:43 Thanks perlguru Mar 06 20:07:12 I'm taking revenge on the world by reporting any compilation error on cross compile from CVS Mar 06 20:07:38 ... or maybe the world is taking revenge on my bug reports by giving me the flu.... Mar 06 20:07:52 bob_tm-sicker, go for it! Mar 06 20:08:01 i hope you get better soon... Mar 06 20:08:14 As I say - today I'm not only sick, but also ill Mar 06 20:08:33 So do I. How's the snow doing? Mar 06 20:08:47 Heard there were quite some amount last week Mar 06 20:08:55 At least in places Mar 06 20:09:11 it is melting now. Mar 06 20:09:38 in some places it was 50cm snow Mar 06 20:09:47 Good - once the initial excitement has died down with the kids, it might as well. Mar 06 20:09:54 They had to close Schiphol Mar 06 20:10:02 ? Mar 06 20:10:03 Wow Mar 06 20:10:07 Glad I got out in time Mar 06 20:10:32 yes, all europian flights got cancelled Mar 06 20:10:34 For how long was it down? Mar 06 20:11:13 1 day, they had to clear the runways first. friday it was very foggy Mar 06 20:11:37 I see. At least there are some good sides to staying indoors. Mar 06 20:12:11 I'm struggling with Unslung 4.3 alpha and USB Mar 06 20:12:18 also it was very cold: -20.7 C Mar 06 20:12:20 No wonder I'm not getting any better Mar 06 20:12:23 at night Mar 06 20:12:23 *shit* Mar 06 20:12:32 bob_tm-sicker: hub or no hub ? Mar 06 20:12:38 Yeah, yeah, but still. It is like it was here. Mar 06 20:12:41 hub Mar 06 20:12:51 1.1 or 2.0 ? Mar 06 20:12:55 2.0 Mar 06 20:13:05 Linksys Mar 06 20:13:10 try disabling ehci and using only ohci in the kernel Mar 06 20:13:16 it is now 4 degress C Mar 06 20:13:34 that's what I currently have to do in openslug to get things to work on a 2.0 hub Mar 06 20:13:46 do the individual things work connected directly? Mar 06 20:13:51 Yes Mar 06 20:14:11 rwhitby: Ack o the disabling thing Mar 06 20:14:51 Saw several reports on this on the web, but the patches was not relevant for our kernel Mar 06 20:15:07 The hub by iteself is ok Mar 06 20:15:23 that is: connected to the slug but nothing connected to it Mar 06 20:15:55 So the symptoms are not original Mar 06 20:17:13 perlguru: It is nice, sunny and 5C here now. Have a Dutch professor staying confirming that Oslo weather _can_ be nice during winter (no wind and lots of sun) Mar 06 20:17:51 cloudy here... Mar 06 20:18:11 If I got the hub working, I would have a webcam picture from my balcony :-) Mar 06 20:18:26 The printer has priority Mar 06 20:18:28 yeah, SlugCam Mar 06 20:18:42 Anyone with views on access rights on /dev/lp0 /dev/usb/lp0 ? Mar 06 20:19:05 I am also interested in hooking a camera to my slug Mar 06 20:19:16 Made a sloppy, temp decision to go for 777 root.root, but it is not nice in a real env. Mar 06 20:19:34 jacques: Did you see Geert's writeup? Mar 06 20:19:57 Logitechs are so cheap - even unemployed I can get one 2nd hand for nothing Mar 06 20:20:18 Like ~nothing (how does jbot feel about this?) Mar 06 20:20:19 yeah haven't read the whole thing yet Mar 06 20:20:40 nice to see there is a PWC driver which does not require a binary component to do compression now Mar 06 20:20:41 Nice work - on OpenSlug and Unslung 4 things will be easier in general Mar 06 20:20:50 I'd really like to get a usb2.0 camera working tho Mar 06 20:20:58 Yes, I know Mar 06 20:21:23 but printer first :) Mar 06 20:21:36 Looked briefly at the DSP support. How much of the libs/sdk (if anything) is free to use. Mar 06 20:21:52 VoiP transcoding needs it, I think. Mar 06 20:48:23 perlguru: Problems with printer? Mar 06 20:48:50 i did not try it yet. Mar 06 20:48:58 is on my todo list Mar 06 20:49:01 Ah, ok - if you do, slugbug me Mar 06 20:49:07 k Mar 06 20:49:09 bbl Mar 06 20:49:10 lpd need unreleased fixes - se wiki Mar 06 20:54:35 rwhitby: Disabling EHCI will give me only 1.1 support? Mar 06 20:54:43 yep Mar 06 20:56:06 rwhitby: Can't promise to do that if I have to flash - my only slug is prodslug Mar 06 20:56:34 rwhitby: No support for remote kernel boot? Mar 06 20:57:00 you can load a kernel into ram with redboot - details on the wiki Mar 06 20:57:18 Ok - still valid then Mar 06 21:45:37 rwhitby: Australia Post failed to deliver today :( Mar 06 21:46:35 mind you, that's probably not a bad thing. I've been having some bad juju time with hardware in the recent past. Mar 06 21:46:59 you've got the tracking number, right? Mar 06 21:47:26 you can get a free $6.50 express post bag cause it's late Mar 06 21:48:02 oh, hang on, it's not late until today Mar 06 21:48:19 monday was a possible, the guarantee is tuesday Mar 06 21:50:11 got the tracking number, but I won't be worried until tomorrow evening :) Mar 06 21:51:14 warm up your soldering iron for this arvo Mar 06 21:52:35 let's see just how well I'm not doing: Mar 06 21:52:35 * dead maxtor 120GB SATA drive - still no replacement after a month Mar 06 21:52:35 * dead IBM 6.4GB laptop drive Mar 06 21:52:35 * dead 2.5" USB 2.0 enclosure Mar 06 21:52:35 * failing IBM 6.4GB laptop drive (click, clack, unrecovered read error type failing) Mar 06 21:52:36 * can't get WEP going with Cisco PCMCIA card Mar 06 21:52:38 * 5V powersupply that looks like it's a 2 - 12V powersupply depending on how sunny it is... Mar 06 21:52:42 morning Mar 06 21:52:56 morning VoodooZ_work Mar 06 21:53:57 peteru-home: I put some good juju in the bag too .... Mar 06 21:54:07 cool :-) Mar 06 21:55:04 at least my soldering wasn't too pathetic last night (as long as you don't examine the heat shrink too closely :) Mar 06 21:59:26 peteru-home, geez, what are you doing to that poor hardware? Mar 06 22:00:07 I expect he gave it some percussive maintenance ... Mar 06 22:01:04 the weird thing is, I've done nothing unusual. I have not had a (personal) HDD failure for about 11 years and all of a sudden, all hell breaks lose. Mar 06 22:02:34 I've got a 1/2 height 19" rack, DLT drive, DDS2 drive, Ultra SPARc box and a SCSI disk array all sitting around gathering dust with a plan to turn it into a backup rack in the next month. Mar 06 22:03:02 should have done that last month Mar 06 22:29:05 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2999.1.1 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Removed a lot of unused stuff from the openslug kernels, so that ext3 and jbd will fit in 2.6.11 Mar 06 22:29:50 dyoung: I missed it too - it was 1.3000 before the renumbering. I should have turned off the auto-pull from oe first :-) Mar 06 22:30:40 bbiab (reboot) Mar 06 22:42:14 rwhitby-away: Can a give a few examples of what you removed.. Mar 06 22:42:46 it's in #openslug Mar 06 22:43:05 I can repaste here if you like (but kergoth will complain about the flood) Mar 06 22:43:38 #openslug? I didn't know there was such a channel./ Mar 06 23:01:19 * perlguru Leaving Mar 06 23:01:56 bye Mar 06 23:38:06 <[g2]> OpenSlugger's FYI http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/EhciIssue **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 23:59:56 2005