**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 28 23:59:56 2005 Mar 29 01:23:55 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ser.mk: Put the architecture-specific makeflags into a variable, and conditionalised it on the TARGET_ARCH (to give this package a chance of compiling for wl500g too). Mar 29 03:25:34 everyone is too full with easter eggs to say anything ..... Mar 29 03:25:49 or too sleep deprived Mar 29 03:40:28 perlguru ping Mar 29 03:41:20 It has been rather quiet around these parts lately. Mar 29 03:42:46 everyone is busy testing Unslung 4.7-alpha ..... Mar 29 03:43:25 ... But not adding their names to the database. Mar 29 03:43:39 I built it, but havnt loaded it yet. Mar 29 03:44:53 Is altroot a worthwhile addition to unslung4.x ? Mar 29 03:45:24 And will unslung-4 go beta in the next month? Mar 29 03:45:26 yep Mar 29 03:45:32 (IYHO) Mar 29 03:45:51 okay, I guess I'll try crank it out then Mar 29 03:46:09 it's feature complete, and I'm running it on prodslug. Mar 29 03:46:10 I'm gonna be dyoung-shaolin for 2 weeks next month Mar 29 03:46:30 usually we go beta after you and I put it on prodslug .... Mar 29 03:46:44 Ok, I guess I'll flash it then. ;-) Mar 29 03:47:15 I'll put it on the devslug2. Mar 29 03:47:21 I think this time around we need to get bob_tm and jp30 flashing it on their prodslugs too ... Mar 29 03:48:11 I agree. But for bob_tm theres "The Slug" only. Mar 29 03:48:29 dyoung-zzzz, pong Mar 29 03:48:44 hmm, wonder if we ought to flash gastro..... Mar 29 03:49:22 perlguru, I pushed a workable nfs-utils (for OE) a few days ago, can you test it? Mar 29 03:49:32 nfs-utils build and installed Mar 29 03:49:49 Cool, but does it work? Mar 29 03:49:59 /var/lib/nfs did not exist Mar 29 03:50:09 (I just made it package and compile, I didnt test it at all) Mar 29 03:50:15 exportfs -r Mar 29 03:50:15 exportfs: can't open /var/lib/nfs/rmtab for reading Mar 29 03:50:15 Ah, okay, thats easy to remedy. Mar 29 03:50:27 (created the dir) Mar 29 03:50:37 dyoung-zzzz: yeah, it should go on gastro just before the beta release Mar 29 03:50:43 mount -t nfs rivendell:/cvs_repo /mnt/nslu_data Mar 29 03:50:43 mount: RPC: Program not registered Mar 29 03:51:00 smbd and nfsd started Mar 29 03:51:01 did you install the sunrpc module? Mar 29 03:51:28 modprobe sunrpc should do ti Mar 29 03:51:39 its in the standard openslug base i mage Mar 29 03:51:51 sunrpc loaded now Mar 29 03:52:00 mount -t nfs rivendell:/cvs_repo /mnt/nslu_data Mar 29 03:52:01 mount: RPC: Program not registered Mar 29 03:52:21 re-exported your stuff too? Mar 29 03:52:27 smbclient -U% -L localhost Mar 29 03:52:27 creating lame upcase table Mar 29 03:52:27 creating lame lowcase table Mar 29 03:52:27 read_socket_with_timeout: timeout read. read error = Connection reset by peer. Mar 29 03:52:27 protocol negotiation failed Mar 29 03:52:35 (on slug) Mar 29 03:52:56 on slug, exportfs -a; /usr/sbin/mountd Mar 29 03:52:57 exportfs Mar 29 03:52:57 /home/maurice 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 Mar 29 03:52:57 /home/public 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 Mar 29 03:53:13 is mountd running? Mar 29 03:53:23 I never added theh startup script for all that yet. Mar 29 03:53:41 started mountd (wasnot running) Mar 29 03:54:22 now mount command 'hangs'.... Mar 29 03:54:59 Hmm. Mar 29 03:55:21 from notslug, showmount -e slug shows the right stuff? Mar 29 03:55:35 bash: showmount: command not found Mar 29 03:55:50 /usr/sbin/showmount ? Mar 29 03:56:03 no Mar 29 03:56:07 bummers. Mar 29 03:56:28 i have no showmount Mar 29 03:56:29 you might need to fiddle the versions a bit. Mar 29 03:56:52 mount -t nfs -o vers=3 ...... Mar 29 03:56:58 3.0.10 and 3.0.13 Mar 29 03:58:03 hangs... Mar 29 04:00:54 bummer Mar 29 04:01:12 I'm out of ideas right now Mar 29 04:01:25 me too. Mar 29 04:01:39 Well, thanks for trying. Mar 29 04:01:49 thx for fixing Mar 29 04:01:53 (almost) Mar 29 04:01:59 well, it aint fixed yet! Mar 29 04:01:59 got an unslung slug with showmount on it ? Mar 29 04:03:05 i have just one slugroot@Rivendell:~# showmount -e 192.168.1.77 Mar 29 04:03:05 Export list for 192.168.1.77: Mar 29 04:03:05 /home/public 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 Mar 29 04:03:05 /home/maurice 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 Mar 29 04:03:28 /cvs_repo 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 Mar 29 04:04:00 if mountd and rpc (stuff) are running... its supp0osed to work Mar 29 04:04:11 furthur investigation required. Mar 29 04:04:19 1225 root 1796 S smbd -D Mar 29 04:04:20 1226 root 1776 S smbd -D Mar 29 04:04:20 1228 root 1532 S nmbd -D Mar 29 04:04:20 1241 root 884 S mountd Mar 29 04:04:39 Samba isnt related. Mar 29 04:04:46 ah, okay Mar 29 04:04:46 :) Mar 29 04:04:48 got idea Mar 29 04:04:59 lockd running? Statd? Mar 29 04:05:07 was toying with samba as well Mar 29 04:05:13 if you dont tell it not to use it, it needs to be there. Mar 29 04:06:00 no luck with samba either Mar 29 04:10:58 pilfer some bits from the unslung startup script to see what needs to be started in what order for NFS. Mar 29 04:12:00 I think minimally, RPC services, statd, and mountd need to be started. Then you might be able to mount blahblah -o nolock,foo blah Mar 29 04:16:09 hi Mar 29 04:16:20 hi santa Mar 29 04:16:30 is it possible to use the firmware from flash and install new packages to the harddrive? Mar 29 04:16:33 got any presents for us ? ;-) Mar 29 04:16:35 :) Mar 29 04:16:51 yes, that's the standard install for unslung 3.x Mar 29 04:16:54 now? it's march! :) Mar 29 04:17:09 we've all been good boys and girls .... Mar 29 04:17:17 hmm, i have done that with the result that the drive was full and i had to recover with telnet into redboot Mar 29 04:17:32 you ran unsling ? Mar 29 04:17:54 no, as i read unsling will copy the system to the harddisk Mar 29 04:18:00 or is that only with older versions? Mar 29 04:18:06 that's true for 2.x, but not 3.x Mar 29 04:18:20 where did you read that (so we can fix it) ? Mar 29 04:18:25 ok, so i have only to run unsling and the ipkg ......? Mar 29 04:18:30 yep Mar 29 04:18:54 i think i read it but didn't understand it (the thing with the versions= Mar 29 04:19:10 i forgot to unsling and that crashed my box :) Mar 29 04:19:23 yep, a full jffs2 partition will do that ... Mar 29 04:19:46 I think we've got an FAQ entry for that .... Mar 29 04:20:36 yes, i have read and read but it's so much at first time :/ Mar 29 04:22:42 ok, next question, there are a lot of posts about samba3, are there packages available? Mar 29 04:23:06 what does ipkg tell you? Mar 29 04:23:30 (ipkg list | grep samba) Mar 29 04:23:59 nothing Mar 29 04:24:16 perhaps there is an additional repository available? Mar 29 04:24:26 have you install the unslung-feeds package? Mar 29 04:24:47 samba is a native package, so you need to access the native feed Mar 29 04:25:19 ok, got it Mar 29 04:25:32 can i configure it with the webinterface too? Mar 29 04:25:40 or do i have to configure it with the commandline? Mar 29 04:25:44 dunno Mar 29 04:28:25 as far as I know, all unslung packages require command line configuration - we do not do web interfaces at the moment. Mar 29 04:28:54 ok Mar 29 04:29:40 (we're not against web interfaces, it's just that we have no proposal for how to do a maintenance-free generic extensible web interface for the unslung packages. Mar 29 04:31:01 morning sunshine Mar 29 04:32:24 ok, the best thing would be to enhance the original webinterface but then it's only useable with the nslu2 and not with other devices probably Mar 29 04:33:26 <[g2]> rwhitby, morning ! Mar 29 04:35:28 but i dont know if the source of the webinterface is available, i got the box a few days before and start now, so i need a little bit of time to see how things working Mar 29 04:37:26 well, we haven't had much interest in a web interface, but if you want to knock up a late christmas present for us (something which automatically supports a new package as soon as it is installed with no other user intervention, and is driven by a single configuration file for each package that is easy enough for a package developer to write), then we won't say no :-) Mar 29 04:44:30 i dont know if there is plugin system in the existing webinterface but i would say no, so thats the biggest problem perhaps Mar 29 04:44:53 there is no plugin system in the existing webinterface Mar 29 04:46:45 uhmm, too bad Mar 29 04:47:05 now i know why the packages are not included into the web interface :) Mar 29 04:47:57 so no present for us? Mar 29 04:48:42 not in 5 minutes :) Mar 29 04:55:41 oooh - postgresql compiles for the wl500g too .... Mar 29 05:20:43 python builds for the wl500g too :-) Mar 29 05:23:59 at which place should be stored the leases file of dnsmasq? Mar 29 05:33:39 is /opt/var/lib the right place? Mar 29 06:40:50 should it be possible to use samba3 with openldap and trust relationships between domains with nslug2? Mar 29 07:34:27 is it possible to switch off the disk after 30min. no usage? Mar 29 07:37:14 mr_claus, yes. ;) Mar 29 07:38:53 siddy-away: yes? why the smile, it's the default or do i have to change the config? Mar 29 07:39:12 ~faq Mar 29 07:39:19 grmpf... Mar 29 07:39:23 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/FAQ Mar 29 07:39:28 i looked into the faq Mar 29 07:39:35 i didn't find it Mar 29 07:39:40 #21 Mar 29 07:40:45 uhmm, i searched "off", "suspend", ...... perhaps i should read the whole faq next time :/ Mar 29 07:44:37 i didn't use hdparm before, will the value be stored in the harddrive or do i have to set it after every switch-off-on? Mar 29 07:47:02 mr_claus, apm-settings should be permanent. Mar 29 07:47:45 siddy-away: ok but it seems that i cannot set it from my nslu2, perhaps because the disk is connected with usb instead of ide Mar 29 07:48:09 yes, like described :( Mar 29 07:48:13 yep, that' what the FAQ says! ;-p Mar 29 07:48:52 do you know if the windows tool could be used with an usb connected disk? Mar 29 07:50:46 no, sorry, but I'm probably not the right guy for windows-related questions... Mar 29 07:51:05 i think its not possible Mar 29 07:51:25 onetouch cannot be used if the drive is nslu2 formatted so probalby usb is another problem too Mar 29 07:51:37 it would be the best to use hdparm Mar 29 07:51:59 what would be the better thing for the harddisk, to keep it running or to use spin down? Mar 29 07:52:12 is it a problem if the disk goes down very often? Mar 29 07:53:18 it depends... I'm using a 2.5-inch notebook-hd. It's used to a lot of spin-down-and-up-cycles, but it's not made for permanent usage. You' Mar 29 07:53:38 You'll have the opposite for scsi-server-disks, so dunno. Mar 29 07:54:13 i use a 3,5" mator ide disk which was not built for permanent use too i think Mar 29 07:54:33 but its not a disk for spin-down all the time, perhaps i should set it to 2h Mar 29 07:54:41 then it goes down over-night Mar 29 07:54:55 i think 5min is a bad value in my case Mar 29 07:58:46 so i have to leave, thx for your help Mar 29 07:58:53 np Mar 29 14:10:40 ~nslu2-camps Mar 29 14:10:43 [nslu2-camps] 1: want full linksys compatibility (including future releases), can load image through web and telnet in to run ipkg, have no clue about redboot, 2: can telnet into redboot and use linux, 3: power user, but no jtag and no custom redboots, 4: bleeding edge - custom redboots, no need or desire for linksys compatibility Mar 29 14:20:12 Is there anyone here who would have some time to help James Depew from linksysinfo.org do a review of the Unslung and OpenSlug firmware? Mar 29 14:21:22 jp30: g'day Mar 29 14:22:10 jp30: did you see the TARGET variable added to the Unslung Makefile? Mar 29 14:24:45 ~nslu2-rules Mar 29 14:24:46 somebody said nslu2-rules was 1) Those who ask the questions, update the wiki, 2) Those who complain about the doco, update the wiki, 3) Friends don't let friends flash custom firmware without confirmed RedBoot access, 4) Friends don't let friends flash custom bootloaders without confirmed JTAG access. Mar 29 14:26:50 rwhitby, yes, i saw that. actually, I am just trying to get the unslung firmware to build now. would you have a moment to help me with that? Mar 29 14:27:01 yep Mar 29 14:28:02 ok, so it's dying on gnu-config-native, complaining about "cp: cannot create regular file `patches/config-guess-uclibc': Permission denied" Mar 29 14:28:28 on your machine, or on nudi? Mar 29 14:28:32 on my machine Mar 29 14:29:02 hmm - dunno, haven't seen that one before. Mar 29 14:29:27 did you do an rm -rf tmp/{work,stamps}/gnu-config-native* and try again? Mar 29 14:29:53 (it's important to remove the directories and files from both work and stamps Mar 29 14:30:08 bbiab Mar 29 14:31:04 ok, i'll try that now. it's not clear to me which directory the permission denied problem is occuring in. would it be a good idea to just chmod a+rX -R my whole working copy of oe? Mar 29 14:31:53 can't hurt Mar 29 14:32:16 when all else fails, you rm -rf tmp and start again Mar 29 14:38:49 no luck, it's consistently failing. i checked that everything was owned by me, user writeable and everyone readable. Mar 29 14:44:03 it's odd - this problem is happening early in the build, and I have managed to get further with oe builds in the past (though building openzaurus, not unslung) Mar 29 14:55:02 OK, I'm off to get a coffee. rwhitby, if you (or anyone) have any guesses as to what might be going on with my oe woes, speak up and i'll read it when i get back Mar 29 14:55:14 I'm trying to recreate now ... Mar 29 15:02:25 oops - built openslug instead. trying unslung now Mar 29 15:05:41 gnu-config-native builds fine for me Mar 29 15:05:52 sorry :-( Mar 29 15:37:20 jp30: look for a rogue 'patches' directory. quilt searches up from the S dir all the way to /, on the off chance it's being run in a subdirectory of a source tree that has quilt patches applied, so it lookes for the toplevel patches dir. if you happen to have a dir called patches in the paths it searches, the shit will hit the fan. Mar 29 16:04:28 kergoth, that sounds like that is the problem - i have a patches directory in my home dir. renaming it fixes the problem. what's the best way to deal with this issue? i'm reluctant to reorganise my home dir to suit oe Mar 29 16:06:44 patch quilt to add a new commandline argument to disable that functionality, and make OE use that Mar 29 16:07:33 or, talk to zecke, he had an alternative approach, he makes it search for both teh 'patches' _and_ '.pc' directories. normally .pc doesnt exist unless a patch has been applied, so a couple of quilt's commands would need altering to create that directory in order for that approach to work. Mar 29 16:08:05 it isnt 'to suit oe', its to suit quilt. Mar 29 16:08:13 you're welcome to inherit the patcher bbclass and use that for patching instead. Mar 29 16:08:26 oe just happens to use quilt to apply patches by default Mar 29 16:12:44 ok, thanks. the reason i wasn't seeing this problem with openzaurus was that i was using patcher there. i'll rename my patches directory for the moment i think, and look into the other options once i am more comfortable with all the software involved Mar 29 16:36:30 wow - we never would have worked that one out on our own. Thanks kergoth! Mar 29 16:40:38 np Mar 29 16:40:50 its a useful feature, being able to run quilt commands wtihin a subdir of a source tree you're working on Mar 29 16:40:57 just needs a way to be disabled, or needs to be more picky. Mar 29 16:41:18 patcher does the same thing, but it looks for '.patches', which is less likely to occur Mar 29 16:43:22 yeah, you'd think they'd name the directory quilt-patches at least .... Mar 29 16:46:47 well, that directory is the -output- of quilt, it isnt temporary working files. so it makes sense for it to be visable rather than '.patches', and the working area hidden (.pc). i'm fine with the former being called 'patches', but i think it should search for .pc, the way zecke's approach works Mar 29 17:40:35 does anyone here use rsnapshot? Mar 29 17:41:33 it's been spending over a day just performing a cp -al on about 100 GB of data (but it's just making hard links, so it shouldn't take much longer than just making that many symlinks) Mar 29 23:08:32 03bzhou * 10unslung/Makefile: hugs (haskell interpreter) ready for native testing Mar 29 23:08:53 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (make/hugs.mk sources/hugs/configure.patch): hugs (haskell interpreter) ready for native testing **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 29 23:59:56 2005