**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 04 23:59:57 2005
Apr 05 00:03:17 <rwhitby> ftpd-topfield works on the wl500g :-) :-)
Apr 05 00:10:01 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ftpd-topfield.mk: Added turbo and listing patches.
Apr 05 00:10:22 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ftpd-topfield.mk: Bumped the IPK version.
Apr 05 00:10:55 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/ftpd-topfield/ (turbo.patch listing.patch):
Apr 05 00:16:35 <NAiL> odd... apache2 blocks subversion on gentoo.
Apr 05 00:17:00 <rwhitby> both use apr
Apr 05 00:17:17 <rwhitby> dunno if that's relevant or not
Apr 05 00:18:21 <NAiL> for some reason the ebuild requires the apache2 use-flag if apache2 is installed. Editing wiki now ;)
Apr 05 00:37:28 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ftpd-topfield.mk: Removed the listing patch.
Apr 05 00:40:36 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/ftpd-topfield/Makefile.patch: Updated for latest version.
Apr 05 00:41:24 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ftpd-topfield.mk: Bumped the PR.
Apr 05 02:28:05 <DaveEL> could anyone in this project use a spare slug (uk power supply)? not used mine in ages
Apr 05 02:38:03 <[cc]smart> ~seen [g2]
Apr 05 02:38:07 <jbot> [g2] <~g2@g2.nslu2-linux> was last seen on IRC in channel #nslu2-linux, 3h 54m 24s ago, saying: 'thx'.
Apr 05 04:39:48 <CIA-9> 03ptweety * 10unslung/make/ (autoconf.mk automake.mk): automake.mk and autoconf.mk are generating the control files
Apr 05 04:41:16 <CIA-9> 03ptweety * 10unslung/sources/ (autoconf/control automake/control): controlfiles for autoconf and automake are now generated
Apr 05 06:26:16 <CIA-9> 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/thttpd.mk): Added thttpd 2.25b
Apr 05 06:35:20 <CIA-9> 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/Makefile:
Apr 05 06:50:54 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Added autoconf and automake to wl500g packages.
Apr 05 06:55:29 <jeanfabrice-home> rod : libpng seems to cross compile / build fine for wl500g
Apr 05 07:00:39 <rwhitby-away> jeanfabrice-home: ping
Apr 05 07:00:44 <jeanfabrice-home> ping
Apr 05 07:04:27 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libpng.mk: Added the missing zlib-stage dependency.
Apr 05 07:06:23 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libpng.mk: Now generates the control file.
Apr 05 07:07:22 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/libpng/control: Now generated
Apr 05 07:09:03 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Promoted libpng for wl500g.
Apr 05 07:09:47 <rwhitby> jeanfabrice-home: Makefile.in.patch is missing for thttpd.  Did you add the file and commit it?
Apr 05 07:10:04 <jeanfabrice-home> I did. let me see
Apr 05 07:10:14 <rwhitby> and libpng just needed the control file to be generated - it was already in the list of such packages.
Apr 05 07:10:51 <rwhitby> I don't see a sources/thttpd directory at all
Apr 05 07:10:58 <CIA-9> 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/sources/thttpd/Makefile.in.patch: Added missing patch
Apr 05 07:11:38 <jeanfabrice-home> I had it with cvs add at the top directory
Apr 05 07:11:52 <jeanfabrice-home> and the cvs commit at the top too
Apr 05 07:12:20 <rwhitby> jeanfabrice-home: you should feel free to add the control file generation code for packages that are listed in WL500G_PACKAGES_JUST_REQUIRING_CONTROL_GENERATION (as libpng was)
Apr 05 07:12:51 <jeanfabrice-home> rwhitby: yep, I did not fully read the Makefile
Apr 05 07:13:02 <rwhitby> no problem :-)
Apr 05 07:14:18 <jeanfabrice-home> and I didn't see zlib wasn't in libpng mk because I previously have build zlib in my staging dir
Apr 05 07:14:38 <rwhitby> yeah, the same for everyone else here :-)
Apr 05 07:15:15 <rwhitby> the way to fully test a new package (even though it takes some time) is to "make distclean ; make <foo>-ipk"
Apr 05 07:15:30 <rwhitby> then "make <foo>-ipk" again and make sure that the second time it does nothing.
Apr 05 07:15:43 <jeanfabrice-home> but I don't understand why you don't see my thttpd sources as in my local repos, I have a CVS subdir in it which means it has been uploaded, no ?
Apr 05 07:17:03 <rwhitby> no
Apr 05 07:17:14 <jeanfabrice-home> rwhitby: in order to add a sources dir, waht are the cvs command to type ? I se to type cvs add dir dir/file1 dir/file2 ...
Apr 05 07:17:18 <rwhitby> you probably did the "add" step, but not the "commit" step.
Apr 05 07:17:31 <rwhitby> cvs add dir ; cvs add dir/file ; cvs commit
Apr 05 07:17:41 <jeanfabrice-home> ok
Apr 05 07:17:55 <rwhitby> then cvs update to make sure that nothing is missing ;-)
Apr 05 07:18:09 <jeanfabrice-home> rwhitby: "cvs [add aborted]: there is a version in thttpd already
Apr 05 07:18:35 <rwhitby> yeah, you only have to do the cvs add dir once for a new directory
Apr 05 07:19:08 <jeanfabrice-home> rwhitby: do you see more than Makefile.in.patch in thttpd sub ?
Apr 05 07:19:16 <rwhitby> no
Apr 05 07:19:40 <rwhitby> but configure.patch is missing still
Apr 05 07:19:52 <jeanfabrice-home> rwhitby: can I type cvs add file1 file2 file3 ?
Apr 05 07:20:00 <rwhitby> yes
Apr 05 07:20:16 <jeanfabrice-home> I did it : see CIA-9 message
Apr 05 07:20:33 <rwhitby> CIA reported Makefile.in.patch, but not configure.patch
Apr 05 07:20:55 <jeanfabrice-home> hummm. You're right ! :(
Apr 05 07:21:51 <CIA-9> 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/sources/thttpd/ (configure.patch postinst prerm rc.thttpd thttpd.conf): adding thttpd missing files
Apr 05 07:22:34 <jeanfabrice-home> rwhitby: here is what I type initially :
Apr 05 07:22:45 <jeanfabrice-home> cvs add make/thttpd.mk sources/thttpd sources/thttpd/Makefile.in.patch sources/thttpd/configure.patch sources/thttpd/postinst sources/thttpd/prerm sources/thttpd/rc.thttpd sources/thttpd/thttpd.conf
Apr 05 07:23:37 <jeanfabrice-home> maybe I shouldn't have had file under thttpd in the same action
Apr 05 07:26:51 <rwhitby> I always add just the dir file, then all the files in it as a second step, and then the commit as a third step
Apr 05 07:29:40 <jeanfabrice-home> Will do such way... I used to follow sourceforge 'Basic Introduction to cvs'
Apr 05 07:32:12 <rwhitby> jeanfabrice: you must also build things as a non-root user.  So the package's Makefile's install target cannot use the -o bin -g bin arguments.  You need to patch the makefile so that it doesn't do this.
Apr 05 07:33:03 <kergoth> I'd advise that people doing any build work read http://www.openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Buildsystems_2fRulesOfThumb
Apr 05 07:38:05 <jeanfabrice-home> rwhitby: Ok. will take this into account 
Apr 05 07:41:25 <jeanfabrice-home> btw : what are the problem with -o root and -g bin ? having installed binary owned by root ?
Apr 05 07:42:00 <rwhitby> no, if you are building the package as a normal user, then you cannot run install with -o or -g options, cause a normal user cannot make something owned by root
Apr 05 07:42:56 <rwhitby> the installed binaries will be owned by root anyway when they are installed by root running ipkg install
Apr 05 07:43:46 <jeanfabrice-home> ok, let me resume what I've understood : I must patch Makefile to discard -o and -g so that non root user can build their package. Is it this ?
Apr 05 07:43:57 <rwhitby> eys
Apr 05 07:43:58 <rwhitby> yes
Apr 05 07:44:22 <jeanfabrice-home> ok; Understood :) need to improve my english ! :(
Apr 05 07:44:39 <jeanfabrice-home> That was not the case for thttpd, was it ?
Apr 05 07:44:43 <rwhitby> you should always be a non root user when building packages, as this will also highlight if your package is trying to install something into /usr on your *build* system.
Apr 05 07:45:05 <rwhitby> jeanfabrice-home: your english is much better than my french :-)
Apr 05 07:45:29 <rwhitby> . /usr/bin/install -c -m 555 -o bin -g bin thttpd /home/wl500g/packages/builds/thttpd-2.25b-ipk/opt/sbin
Apr 05 07:45:29 <rwhitby> . /usr/bin/install: cannot change ownership of `/home/wl500g/packages/builds/thttpd-2.25b-ipk/opt/sbin/thttpd': Operation not permitted
Apr 05 07:45:29 <rwhitby> make[1]: *** [installthis] Error 1
Apr 05 07:45:45 <rwhitby> that's the error you get if you try and build thttpd as a non root user
Apr 05 07:45:46 <jeanfabrice-home> ok  ok
Apr 05 07:46:51 <jeanfabrice-home> will correct it tomorrow, k ?
Apr 05 07:47:14 <rwhitby> yep, no hurry.  thanks for contributing the package!
Apr 05 07:47:18 <jeanfabrice-home> it is 1:00am here
Apr 05 07:48:23 <jeanfabrice-home> will aslo ask for opinion buildind thttpd+php package as it looks quite hard (php needs thttpd at compile time and thttps needs php lib for building)
Apr 05 07:49:14 <rwhitby> we (the nslu2 group) will need to consider how we handle the php package - it currently depends on apache2, but I presume it could equally well run with thttpd (with a smaller memory footprint if someone didn't need the full apache2 feature set).
Apr 05 07:50:40 <jeanfabrice-home> and php is highly configurable at boot time. actually thttp+php produces a single binary with thttpd, php and all php modules choosen at configure
Apr 05 07:51:11 <jeanfabrice-home> I've allready built it out of unslung build system
Apr 05 07:51:24 <jeanfabrice-home> looks harder to do it with unslung
Apr 05 08:11:03 <rwhitby> back later
Apr 05 11:03:08 <rh2> hello
Apr 05 11:39:07 <rh2> anyone here?
Apr 05 13:01:54 <rwhitby-web> dyoung-zzzz: still zzzz?
Apr 05 13:02:05 <rh2> hi
Apr 05 13:02:37 <rh2> rwhitby, do you know any reason why unslinging wouldn't cause /share/hdd/conf to get mounted as / after reboot? I don't get any failure messages, and yet...
Apr 05 13:03:50 <rwhitby-web> does /.sda2root exist in both the jffs2 partition and /dev/sda2 ?
Apr 05 13:04:17 <rh2> let me check...
Apr 05 13:05:09 <rh2> I don't think it exists in the jffs partition, since it doesn't show up in /
Apr 05 13:05:29 <rh2> nor is it in /share/hdd/conf... so its in neither
Apr 05 13:06:55 <rh2> what does that mean?
Apr 05 13:07:24 <rwhitby-web> ah, what version of unslung?
Apr 05 13:07:48 <rh2> 3.18
Apr 05 13:15:27 <rh2> any ideas?
Apr 05 13:16:08 <rwhitby-web> in 3.18, /share/hdd/conf is never mounted as /.  / is always in jffs2 in 3.x
Apr 05 13:16:42 <rwhitby-web> ~nslu2-camps
Apr 05 13:16:44 <jbot> somebody said nslu2-camps was 1: want full linksys compatibility (including future releases), can load image through web and telnet in to run ipkg, have no clue about redboot, 2: can telnet into redboot and use linux, 3: power user, but no jtag and no custom redboots, 4: bleeding edge - custom redboots, no need or desire for linksys compatibility
Apr 05 13:17:05 <rh2> oh; i must have been misled by some old documentation
Apr 05 13:24:05 <rh2> something is making conf read-only; that's the root of this problem...
Apr 05 15:35:19 <rwhitby-web> dyoung: any luck on unslung 4.x ?
Apr 05 15:35:43 <dyoung> Nope.
Apr 05 15:36:18 <dyoung> I launched a build a while ago
Apr 05 16:15:49 <perlguru-work> morning
Apr 05 16:21:51 <giel> M*H(*RE(F*CK!~
Apr 05 16:22:00 <giel> sorry
Apr 05 17:25:51 <perlguru-work> .
Apr 05 17:49:02 <giel> yeah, gas prices went up _again_
Apr 05 17:49:12 <giel> that is the 7th time in two weeks
Apr 05 17:50:40 <dyoung> Yeah,
Apr 05 17:50:51 <ka6sox> $2.50/gal here
Apr 05 17:51:02 <dyoung> I'm shopping for a bicycle.
Apr 05 17:51:37 <ka6sox> almost practical where you are...I live in the land of GREAT distances
Apr 05 17:53:22 <dyoung> well, theres this mountain in the way.....
Apr 05 17:54:07 <ka6sox> at least there isn't water!
Apr 05 17:54:45 <dyoung> Anyone know who added alsa bits to the unslung repo?
Apr 05 17:55:43 <dyoung> sk8joker around?
Apr 05 17:58:43 <dyoung> ~seen sk8joker
Apr 05 17:58:48 <jbot> i haven't seen 'sk8joker', dyoung
Apr 05 18:12:56 <rwhitby-away> ka6sox: you thing you're land has great distances!
Apr 05 18:13:21 <ka6sox> yeah....I know!
Apr 05 18:13:21 <rwhitby-away> dyoung: my next device is the dlink dsm320
Apr 05 18:13:30 <rwhitby-away> they've recently released the GPL source for it
Apr 05 18:13:47 <dyoung> I've been looking at that one for a while
Apr 05 18:14:04 <dyoung> I'm not sure how it'll integrate with the greater scheme though...
Apr 05 18:14:09 <dyoung> but... Toy Value....
Apr 05 18:14:41 <rwhitby-away> downloading the source code now ....
Apr 05 18:14:50 <rwhitby-away> they have a serial port, and are working on jtag
Apr 05 18:14:54 <dyoung> does miau run on the asus?
Apr 05 18:14:58 <rwhitby-away> http://www.biermana.org/wiki/index.php/Hacking%20the%20D-Link%20DSM-320
Apr 05 18:15:07 <rwhitby-away> dyoung: yep miau runs on the asus
Apr 05 18:15:24 <rwhitby-away> check the wl500g packages variable in the unslung Makefile
Apr 05 18:15:45 <rwhitby-away> serve up from the slug or the wl500g to the dsm using twonky
Apr 05 18:16:33 <dyoung> oooh yeah....
Apr 05 18:16:47 <rwhitby-away> that's how it fits into the greater scheme of things :-)
Apr 05 18:16:54 <dyoung> but actually I meant "greater scheme" to be the pile of mess under my TV.
Apr 05 18:17:26 <rwhitby-away> I'm going to sell the second toppy to my brother to pay for the dsm
Apr 05 18:17:29 <dyoung> like I'm gonna have to come up with a smart way to switch all this stuff around.
Apr 05 18:17:48 <dyoung> Theres too many video devices for the inputs basically.
Apr 05 18:18:28 <perlguru-work> if we get mono to work on slug, we can use slug as media server :)
Apr 05 18:19:55 <rwhitby-away> Twonky were nice enough to send me a copy of the TwonkyVision server :-)
Apr 05 18:22:07 <dyoung> Wow.
Apr 05 18:23:52 <ka6sox-zzzz> nitey all
Apr 05 18:23:58 <rwhitby-away> nite ka6sox-zzzz
Apr 05 18:25:20 <dyoung> has anyone looked at vorbis-tools yet?
Apr 05 18:36:05 <rwhitby-away> dyoung: http://www.wn.co.nz/dsm320.jpg
Apr 05 18:37:43 <rwhitby-away> dyoung: discussion of DMS320 continues on #puppy
Apr 05 18:43:30 <kergoth> http://kerneltrap.org/node/4966
Apr 05 18:43:32 <kergoth> heh
Apr 05 18:45:26 <rwhitby-away> where's OE going to?
Apr 05 18:45:45 <kergoth> good question.
Apr 05 18:47:52 <dyoung> Bummers.
Apr 05 18:50:20 <dyoung> Does this imply the termination of bkbits.net entirely?  (I didnt read it in full yet)
Apr 05 18:52:14 <rwhitby-away> Had to happen eventually ...
Apr 05 18:53:35 <kergoth> i need to spend some quality time with darcs and bazaar and bazaar-ng
Apr 05 18:59:19 <rwhitby-away> what's the end date of bk?
Apr 05 19:14:23 <dyoung> dammit ka6sox, youre gonna owe me.
Apr 05 19:27:06 <CIA-9> 03dyoung8888 * 10unslung/ (make/audiofile.mk Makefile): Added audiofile, added to testing line.
Apr 05 19:32:36 <CIA-9> 03dyoung8888 * 10unslung/make/esound.mk: The Enlighted Sound Daemon.
Apr 05 19:33:06 <CIA-9> 03dyoung8888 * 10unslung/Makefile: Added esound to testing
Apr 05 19:43:52 <peteru-home> I think the cut off for the public bk is June
Apr 05 19:44:14 <rwhitby-away> is the esound for ka6sox?
Apr 05 19:47:57 <dyoung> Hes gonna owe me.
Apr 05 19:48:08 <dyoung> Its is quickly coming a ClusterFsck.
Apr 05 19:49:15 <CIA-9> 03dyoung8888 * 10unslung/make/esound.mk: Disabled some configure options.
Apr 05 19:50:28 <CIA-9> 03dyoung8888 * 10unslung/make/libao.mk: Changed it to the new template, disabled some configure options
Apr 05 21:38:04 <mr_claus> hi
Apr 05 21:38:14 <rwhitby-nslu2> hi santa
Apr 05 21:42:29 <mr_claus> if i install new software it will be installed into /opt?
Apr 05 21:42:45 <perlguru-work> yes
Apr 05 21:42:48 <rwhitby> if you're referring to unslung firmware, and you have unslung, then yes
Apr 05 21:43:09 <rwhitby> well, actually yes anyway, but you'll fill the jffs2 if you don't unsling first
Apr 05 21:44:25 <mr_claus> oh, i have run unling so it would work, first time i forgot to run unsling and had to recover my box with ctrl-c :/
Apr 05 21:44:47 <mr_claus> so ipkg install bash means that i would use bash instead of busybox in future?
Apr 05 21:45:53 <perlguru-work> no, you have to change /etc/passwd
Apr 05 21:46:00 <perlguru-work> set the shell right
Apr 05 21:48:48 <mr_claus> ok, i changed that but now i get access denied
Apr 05 21:49:08 <mr_claus> running /bin/bash is working, but setting /bin/bash instead of /bin/sh in passwd is not working
Apr 05 21:49:22 <rwhitby> did you follow the instructions on the wiki?
Apr 05 21:49:49 <mr_claus> i did what you said, only change passwd, but i would read the wiki now ....
Apr 05 21:50:24 <CIA-9> 03dyoung8888 * 10unslung/make/libcurl.mk: Changed it to the new template
Apr 05 21:51:54 <CIA-9> 03dyoung8888 * 10unslung/ (make/vorbis-tools.mk sources/vorbis-tools/libtool.patch): Vorbis - Ogg toolkit
Apr 05 21:52:38 <CIA-9> 03dyoung8888 * 10unslung/Makefile: Added vorbis-tools for testing
Apr 05 22:17:11 <mr_claus> haha, i'm looking for postgresql-8.0.x binaries since weeks
Apr 05 22:17:42 <mr_claus> i want to use them with debian sarge now i see the binaries of nslu2 :)
Apr 05 22:18:26 <mr_claus> but .. the nslu2 has to less memory to run postgreql, jboss and compiere :)
Apr 05 22:27:11 <CIA-9> 03dyoung 07 * r1.3176.1.1 10openembedded/packages/linux/unslung-kernel-2.3r25/defconfig: Add audio configuration options for unslung kernel
Apr 05 22:29:34 <dyoung> And THAT should do it.
Apr 05 22:32:47 <dyoung> that was all the stuff required to make vorbis tools do something.  There might be enough horsepower to stream something in realtime, in which case it may be of interest to others in the broadcast industry,
Apr 05 22:33:08 <dyoung> ~emulate rwhitby
Apr 05 22:33:09 <jbot> Another Satisfied Customer!
Apr 05 22:33:13 <dyoung> not that one
Apr 05 22:33:14 <mr_claus_> hmm, if i install samba3 can i go back to samba2?
Apr 05 22:33:18 <dyoung> ~emulate rwhitby
Apr 05 22:33:20 <jbot> Well, my work here is done.
Apr 05 22:33:27 <rwhitby> dyoung: I'm ordering a MC500 now :-)
Apr 05 22:33:53 <dyoung-zzzz> what is it?
Apr 05 22:34:03 <dyoung-zzzz> My internet connection went down so I dont have logs.
Apr 05 22:34:26 <rwhitby> http://www.skunkworks.com.au/index.php?cPath=2_3
Apr 05 22:35:44 <dyoung-zzzz> wow, so youre not a DSM320 guy anymore?
Apr 05 22:36:04 <rwhitby> nope
Apr 05 22:36:17 <mr_claus_> and .. if i install samba3 with ipkg will 2.x be deleted or do i have two installations?
Apr 05 22:36:34 <rwhitby> 1 x Neuston MC-500A AUSTRALIAN VERSION INCLUDES WIFI CARD AND COURIER (MC500-A) = $344.99
Apr 05 22:36:38 <rwhitby> (AUD)
Apr 05 22:38:19 <dyoung-zzzz> I wonder if I can get that badboy here.
Apr 05 22:38:43 <rwhitby> there are three different open source servers for it, and I think they will all run on the slug or the wl500gx
Apr 05 22:38:55 <rwhitby> http://www.oxyl.de/homepage/index.php?l=EN
Apr 05 22:39:52 <rwhitby> http://www.swisscenter.co.uk/
Apr 05 22:40:19 <rwhitby> http://openshowcenter.sourceforge.net/
Apr 05 22:40:45 <rwhitby> So you don't hack the unit itself, you hack the webserver that the unit uses to display content.
Apr 05 22:41:24 <dyoung-zzzz> neat
Apr 05 22:41:38 <dyoung-zzzz> I might have to paypal you a few bucks.
Apr 05 22:41:43 <rwhitby> and the servers just need php :-)
Apr 05 22:41:47 <dyoung-zzzz> or get one from s'pore
Apr 05 22:41:53 <rwhitby> (I think one also needs mysql)
Apr 05 22:42:40 <rwhitby> well I've just bought one, and it will be here on Friday
Apr 05 22:43:12 <dyoung-zzzz> I'll bug you about it when I get back
Apr 05 22:43:24 <rwhitby> cool
Apr 05 22:44:19 <dyoung-zzzz> If you see ka6sox around, tell him all the vorbis bits are in place and in theory should work.
Apr 05 22:45:00 <dyoung-zzzz> Hes using a EPIA with a iMic; and in theory it should be replaceable with a nslu2.
Apr 05 22:45:12 <dyoung-zzzz> (retaining the imic of course)
Apr 05 22:45:19 <rwhitby> dyoung-zzzz: see the fourth comment at http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/view/862
Apr 05 22:47:16 <dyoung-zzzz> ooh nice.
Apr 05 22:47:59 <dyoung-zzzz> I can get th epinnacle here.
Apr 05 22:48:00 <rwhitby> dyoung-zzzz: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001H2APA/qid%3D1112795346/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/002-1455690-9752050
Apr 05 22:48:20 <dyoung-zzzz> or that one. ;-)
Apr 05 22:48:52 <rwhitby> this is the OEM: http://www.st4m.com/page6.html
Apr 05 22:49:03 <dyoung-zzzz> I like the idea of using http over upnp.
Apr 05 22:49:39 <dyoung-zzzz> Whoa, can I get that one?
Apr 05 22:49:42 <dyoung-zzzz> it has a USB port
Apr 05 22:49:45 <dyoung-zzzz> and DVI
Apr 05 22:49:56 <rwhitby> they all do, don't they?  USB is 1.1
Apr 05 22:50:02 <dyoung-zzzz> or do the mc500/actiontech all have it?
Apr 05 22:50:05 <dyoung-zzzz> cool!
Apr 05 22:50:10 <dyoung-zzzz> Okay I'm sold
Apr 05 22:50:13 <dyoung-zzzz> where do I sign up
Apr 05 22:50:27 <dyoung-zzzz> is that a IDE port?
Apr 05 22:50:29 <rwhitby> http://www.skunkworks.com.au/index.php
Apr 05 22:50:44 <rwhitby> that OEM picture might be a different device
Apr 05 22:51:33 <dyoung-zzzz> zzzz
Apr 05 22:51:43 <rwhitby> not sure about PAL vs NTSC versions ...
Apr 05 22:56:30 <mr_claus_> a very simple question, what would be the best solution to integrate the box with an installed samba3 into any domain structure which is configured with samba pdc and ldap?
Apr 05 22:57:40 <mr_claus_> or is that more a samba related question?
Apr 05 22:58:40 <NAiL> mr_claus_: That'd be a samba related q :)
Apr 05 23:01:29 <mr_claus_> hmm, ok, i hoped anybody have done that before :)
Apr 05 23:02:10 <NAiL> there's probably a howto somewhere. Can't say I've done that before ;)
Apr 05 23:02:36 <NAiL> I was hoping my slug would arrive today, but it didn't :(
Apr 05 23:02:58 <mr_claus_> ups, then it will arrive tomorrow :)
Apr 05 23:03:10 <NAiL> Yes, it will :)
Apr 05 23:03:24 <NAiL> Emptying a 120gb-disk for use with the slug right now
Apr 05 23:03:27 <VoodooZ_Work> what's the best way to have a module loaded on startup under kernel 2.6? modprobe.conf doesn't seem to support the old pre-load stuff.
Apr 05 23:03:42 <mr_claus_> the most important thing is to use the samba server without creating users and groups
Apr 05 23:03:49 <mr_claus_> but i dont know if it is possible
Apr 05 23:04:18 <NAiL> mr_claus_: IIRC, it's possible. You set the security model to server, then point it towards the up-and-running pdc
Apr 05 23:04:23 <VoodooZ_Work> unless hotplug is supposed to detect my camera was plugged in on bootup and load it?
Apr 05 23:05:34 <mr_claus> NAiL: hmm, that sounds to easy :)
Apr 05 23:06:27 <NAiL> mr_claus: It's something *like* that. I don't think that's the whole solution
Apr 05 23:06:35 <mr_claus> NAiL: the pdc is using ldap, but if i understand you in the right way, with security = server i dont need ldap support in the slug, it will connect to my pdc with windows protcols
Apr 05 23:06:37 <NAiL> I think you have to add a computer accound and stuff
Apr 05 23:08:14 <NAiL> mr_claus: Yes, the computers connecting to the slug would use NTLM-stuff, and the slug would contact the pdc. Atleast I think that's the way it works ;)
Apr 05 23:09:21 <mr_claus> thats exactly what i want to have, i will try that, thx
Apr 05 23:09:25 <NAiL> Mind you, I haven't fiddled that much with samba3 and PDC. I intend doing so in a couple of days :)
Apr 05 23:09:55 <NAiL> np
Apr 05 23:10:14 <mr_claus> i know how to set up a samba3/pdc/ldap but i all the time used only one server
Apr 05 23:11:29 <NAiL> I've never even tried doing that. I want to set up my slug as a PC soon though. 
Apr 05 23:11:52 <NAiL> eh
Apr 05 23:11:55 <NAiL> PDC, even
Apr 05 23:12:20 <mr_claus> if you dont use ldap it would be simple i think
Apr 05 23:12:47 <NAiL> yeah, but ldap is only used by the PDC, right? It's not used by any of the windows clients?
Apr 05 23:13:03 <NAiL> ldap is kindof a passwd backend to the PDC?
Apr 05 23:13:07 <mr_claus> yes
Apr 05 23:13:21 <NAiL> then you don't have to worry about ldap on the slug
Apr 05 23:13:31 <mr_claus> ldap is the best thing to manage users, groups and machines :)
Apr 05 23:14:02 <NAiL> Quite possibly. Haven't exactly tried that. I have ldap running on this box actually... But it's not utilized yet
Apr 05 23:29:19 <peteru-home> VoodooZ_Work: perhaps it's coldplug you need?
Apr 05 23:32:13 <mr_claus> NAiL: i have read some things and i have to create my users locally too
Apr 05 23:32:33 <mr_claus> security = server is not the best solution because the network traffic is to high
Apr 05 23:32:41 <mr_claus> security = domain is the better one
Apr 05 23:33:04 <mr_claus> but .. that only means that the server connects the pdc to auth the user
Apr 05 23:33:32 <mr_claus> the user is not represented at the local server, to do that automaticly i have to use winbind
Apr 05 23:37:17 <VoodooZ_Work> actually hotplug does both jobs but perhpas our hotplug-ng is not quite mature enough yet.
Apr 05 23:41:08 <NAiL> mr_claus: Ah, yes. security = domain would be correct. I didn't look it up you see ;)
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