**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 18 23:59:56 2005
Apr 19 00:00:05 <ka6sox-vega> Time for Bed...cya tommorrow if I can hack a hotspot.
Apr 19 00:00:27 <odoc> gn8
Apr 19 00:00:59 <jacques> later ka6sox-vega !
Apr 19 00:01:12 <jacques> have fun tomorrow :-)
Apr 19 00:01:28 <jacques> sorry - watching dawn of the dead
Apr 19 00:01:32 <jacques> got distracted
Apr 19 00:01:35 <ka6sox-vega> only $160K left to spend. :(
Apr 19 00:01:55 <jacques> hmmm, that's more than three lotus elises
Apr 19 00:02:26 <ka6sox-vega> the new HD transmitter is about $60K of that.
Apr 19 00:02:38 <ka6sox-vega> 10kW
Apr 19 00:03:04 <ka6sox-vega> hmmm.....it uses 240kbps digital stream....
Apr 19 00:03:23 <ka6sox-vega> use that as a WiFi Twonkyvision Server?
Apr 19 00:05:09 <jacques> twonky to stream audio ?
Apr 19 00:05:32 <ka6sox-vega> yeah
Apr 19 00:05:51 <ka6sox-vega> or maybe just OggEnc with Icecast.
Apr 19 00:06:08 <jacques> if you stream ogg you should get good quality at that bitrate
Apr 19 00:06:21 <ka6sox-vega> from where I'm putting it it will cover about 1600sq kms
Apr 19 00:07:47 <jacques> on a nice tall mountain?
Apr 19 00:07:59 <rwhitby> Pinky : " Gee, ka6sox what do you want to do tonight?" "The same thing we do every night Pinky. Try to take over the world!" 
Apr 19 00:08:22 <ka6sox-vega> LOL!
Apr 19 00:08:34 <ka6sox-vega> how did you know my favorite cartoon?
Apr 19 00:10:39 <rwhitby> ka6sox-vega is going to send out mind control signals over 1600sq kms from his WonkyMindAltering software on the slug ....
Apr 19 00:11:01 <ka6sox-vega> Narf!
Apr 19 00:14:44 <ka6sox-vega> I always liked Pinky's ponderings
Apr 19 00:14:49 <ka6sox-vega> Pinky, Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering?
Apr 19 00:15:09 <ka6sox-vega> I think so Brain, but me and Pipi Longstocking, I mean, what would the children look like?
Apr 19 00:16:18 <rwhitby> Brain : "Pinky , are you pondering what I%u2019m pondering?"
Apr 19 00:16:37 <rwhitby> Pinky : "I think so Brain , but where are we going to find a duck and a hose at this hour?"
Apr 19 00:18:15 <rwhitby> http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~snpower/pages/pinkybrain/brainponderings.html
Apr 19 00:19:16 <ka6sox-vega> I"m there
Apr 19 00:20:55 <rwhitby> ka6sox misses out on the 10kW HD transmitter cause he was too busy reading Pinky and the Brain ponderings .....
Apr 19 00:21:12 <ka6sox-vega> and overslept
Apr 19 00:21:49 <ka6sox-vega> Tommorow I'm taking a tour of Area 51
Apr 19 00:23:07 <jacques> really?
Apr 19 00:24:52 <ka6sox-vega> So I'm told...
Apr 19 00:24:55 <ka6sox-vega> we shall see.
Apr 19 00:25:06 <ka6sox-vega> starts at the Alien Inn.
Apr 19 00:25:50 <jacques> make sure it's not that "rest area 51" scam
Apr 19 00:27:57 <ka6sox-vega> I know about that one.
Apr 19 00:29:02 <ka6sox-vega> okay I am keyboard diving...cya tommorrow.
Apr 19 00:29:06 <ka6sox-vega> (which is is already)
Apr 19 00:29:19 <jacques> later!
Apr 19 00:29:40 <ka6sox-vega> nitey
Apr 19 03:28:20 <rwhitby-away> jp30 has done a great job on mediawiki
Apr 19 05:35:18 <rwhitby> anyone other than jeanfabrice familiar with the thttp+php combination?
Apr 19 05:36:38 <Tiersten> nope
Apr 19 05:36:57 <rwhitby> I'm wondering if we can just build the normal php with the --with-thttpd switch already on, and that only affects the thttp built, or whether it also affects the php built to an extent that it can't be used with apache, or without thttpd.
Apr 19 05:37:34 <Tiersten> ah.  not sure.  it probably affects it so that it won't work with apache
Apr 19 05:38:29 <rwhitby> I'm trying to work out how to make sure that thttpd+php has the same extensions support (like the mysql extension required for mediawiki) as php-apache.
Apr 19 05:58:53 <Tiersten> Hey [g2]
Apr 19 05:59:33 <[g2]> Tiersten, HEY!
Apr 19 05:59:52 <rwhitby> [g2]: did you get the click-through from ka6sox?
Apr 19 06:00:20 <[g2]> rwhitby, no
Apr 19 06:01:17 <[g2]> rwhitby and Tiersten do you know any hw design guys ?
Apr 19 06:01:42 <rwhitby> yeah, quite a few.
Apr 19 06:01:46 <[g2]> that aren't insanely busy
Apr 19 06:02:07 <rwhitby> no
Apr 19 06:02:13 <Tiersten> nope. sorry
Apr 19 06:02:35 <rwhitby> what's the job?
Apr 19 06:10:26 <[g2]> sorry, I was on the phone
Apr 19 06:10:41 <[g2]> I've been looking at the ixp465s
Apr 19 06:10:59 <[g2]> I'm thinking something with the ixp465
Apr 19 06:18:08 <[g2]> it's got a 66Mhz PCI bus for a gigiabit ethernet and some hss interfaces for some other stuff plus usb 2.0 host
Apr 19 06:18:31 <[g2]> and the processor runs a bunch faster and up to 1G of 266 DDR
Apr 19 06:19:06 <rwhitby> what's the application?
Apr 19 06:19:35 <[g2]> two apps
Apr 19 06:19:44 <[g2]> One high-speed slug
Apr 19 06:20:01 <[g2]> Gigabit/server apps etc ...
Apr 19 06:20:40 <[g2]> two broadband router for for service providers
Apr 19 06:20:53 <[g2]> the HSS interfaces have some applications there
Apr 19 06:22:11 <Tiersten> Wonder if the Buffalo Terastation has something like that inside
Apr 19 06:22:23 <Tiersten> It's got gigabit ethernet and runs RAID5 so it can't be the IXP425
Apr 19 06:23:10 <Tiersten> ah nevermind.  It's another PPC like their Linkstations
Apr 19 06:23:12 <[g2]> I looked at that a little
Apr 19 06:23:31 <Tiersten> 266MHz PowerPC but with 512MB SDR RAM which is nice
Apr 19 06:23:38 <Tiersten> Realtek gigabit NIC
Apr 19 06:23:55 <[g2]> TeamASA makes a cool box that has an iop3xx  iop8xx in it
Apr 19 06:24:07 <[g2]> the support 8 SATA devices
Apr 19 06:24:09 <[g2]> they
Apr 19 06:24:13 <Tiersten> Interesting
Apr 19 06:24:20 <[g2]> and have mulitiple gigabit
Apr 19 06:24:23 <[g2]> interfaces
Apr 19 06:31:20 <rwhitby> Tiersten: looks like php-apache.mk and thttpdphp.mk (which I might rename to php-thttpd.mk) need to be separate - you can only build one sapi at a time.  But I'm hoping they can share the extensions which are built by php.mk ...
Apr 19 06:39:56 <Tiersten> [g2]: Nice
Apr 19 06:40:08 <Tiersten> rwhitby: Yeah.  I thought it would.  The extensions are probably okay however
Apr 19 06:44:55 <rwhitby> Tiersten: should php-apache have --disable-cli ?
Apr 19 06:46:23 <Tiersten> If you don't want to use PHP as a shell scripting engine yes
Apr 19 06:46:36 <Tiersten> If you just want to use it with Apache/thttpd then disable it
Apr 19 06:47:21 <rwhitby> isnt the cli built in php.mk instead of php-apache.mk ?
Apr 19 06:47:47 <Tiersten> I think so
Apr 19 06:49:21 <rwhitby> so php-apache should have --disable-cli then ...
Apr 19 06:49:30 <rwhitby> (cause php.mk builds the cli)
Apr 19 06:50:18 <Tiersten> Yeah
Apr 19 07:03:03 <rwhitby> I think I'm close to getting thttpdphp to load the php extensions, which should allow phpmyadmin and mediawiki to run on thttpd instead of apache
Apr 19 07:03:26 <Tiersten> Cool
Apr 19 07:17:46 <rwhitby> Hmm - not as close as I thought ....
Apr 19 07:22:58 <rwhitby> ok, phpmyadmin works with the new thttpdphp
Apr 19 07:23:14 <rwhitby> so the mysql module is working
Apr 19 07:23:33 <Tiersten> Great
Apr 19 07:23:38 <Tiersten> What is wrong with mediawiki?
Apr 19 07:24:36 <rwhitby> oh, I don't have any of the other extensions listed in the php.ini yet.  I tried the php.ini that php.mk installs, but got an error, so I'm building back up to it from the smaller php.ini that thttpdphp.mk installs.
Apr 19 07:32:01 <jeanfabrice> hi all_not_asleep
Apr 19 07:32:25 <rwhitby> jeanfabrice: hi
Apr 19 07:32:35 <rwhitby> jeanfabrice: got some things to discuss with you
Apr 19 07:32:40 <jeanfabrice> yep
Apr 19 07:33:02 <rwhitby> Have you seen the phpmyadmin and mediawiki packages that jp30 has contributed?
Apr 19 07:33:19 <jeanfabrice> see them in the cvs, no more
Apr 19 07:33:56 <rwhitby> they work with php-apache
Apr 19 07:34:04 <rwhitby> I'm trying to get them to work with thttpdphp
Apr 19 07:34:08 <jeanfabrice> okay
Apr 19 07:34:31 <jeanfabrice> thttpdphp is not really complete... as it lacks some modules
Apr 19 07:35:08 <rwhitby> that's what I want to talk to you about
Apr 19 07:35:13 <jeanfabrice> okay
Apr 19 07:35:20 <rwhitby> I'm attempting to make it use the shared php modules that php.mk installs
Apr 19 07:35:29 <rwhitby> (and not try to include those modules itself)
Apr 19 07:35:34 <jeanfabrice> did you succeed ? I couldn't
Apr 19 07:35:39 <rwhitby> (in the same way that php-apache does)
Apr 19 07:35:56 <rwhitby> I have phpmyadmin running on my new thttpdphp
Apr 19 07:36:00 <giel> yeah! my dvb-h transmitter chain works!
Apr 19 07:36:06 <giel> and my receiving chain as well
Apr 19 07:36:23 <giel> okay, you may continue on-topic now :)
Apr 19 07:36:37 <rwhitby> jeanfabrice: so that proves that the mysql.so module works
Apr 19 07:37:13 <jeanfabrice> I compile and install 1)php.mk 2)thttpdphp.mk and thttpd did not load module at startup
Apr 19 07:37:52 <rwhitby> I had to make some changes to thttpdphp
Apr 19 07:38:01 <rwhitby> based on what is done in php-apache
Apr 19 07:38:22 <jeanfabrice> like linking against libdl ?
Apr 19 07:38:36 <rwhitby> yep
Apr 19 07:38:45 <rwhitby> and some configure changes
Apr 19 07:39:17 <jeanfabrice> interesting. On my box, when compiling with libdl, thttpd refuse to launch
Apr 19 07:39:31 <jeanfabrice> did you commit the change, I could have a look.
Apr 19 07:40:33 <rwhitby> not yet.  I'm having problems with mediawiki, so I'm not sure it's ready yet.
Apr 19 07:41:14 <rwhitby> but you're right, I should check it in if phpmyadmin is working.
Apr 19 07:41:39 <jeanfabrice> by the way, do you run it on your nslu2 or wl500 ? because there used to have no gconv-modules for wl500... and libgd depends on it... 
Apr 19 07:42:10 <rwhitby> nslu2 at the moment
Apr 19 07:42:32 <jeanfabrice> that's the problem I have
Apr 19 07:44:06 <jeanfabrice> I have modified the gconv-modules to have it install on wl500g as a dummy modules. I don't know if iconv support is really important (it shoulds if it's a dependency)... Shouln't I repromote libiconv only for wl500g ?
Apr 19 07:44:42 <rwhitby> do you have anything which fails against the dummy module?
Apr 19 07:45:36 <jeanfabrice> I do not make large test. I ask people on chupa.n to test it but they couldn't as thttpdphp disappear from Packages (has been listed in need_fixing)
Apr 19 07:47:21 <rwhitby> but now you have the dummy module you can put it back again, right?
Apr 19 07:47:26 <jeanfabrice> I was wondering if there was any other problems fontconfig/thttpdphp that make them listed in need_fixing
Apr 19 07:47:44 <rwhitby> not that I know
Apr 19 07:47:44 <jeanfabrice> 'coz I guess you put them here, no ?
Apr 19 07:47:58 <rwhitby> back in a while - I think that was the only reason
Apr 19 07:48:10 <jeanfabrice> ok
Apr 19 07:48:19 <jeanfabrice> will promote them
Apr 19 07:51:58 <jeanfabrice> Humm... thttpdphp still push php.ini, does not depends on php and killall thttpd at startup
Apr 19 07:58:20 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/thttpdphp.mk: Made it depend on php instead of including modules itself. No longer installs php.ini.
Apr 19 07:58:20 <rwhitby> did the first two, the third is yours :-)
Apr 19 07:59:14 <rwhitby> ok, that's all my changes.  That one works for phpmyadmin, but doesn't work for mediawiki.  I'll be happy enough if it works for Styno's webtools.
Apr 19 07:59:24 <rwhitby> thx jeanfabrice.  Night all
Apr 19 13:40:58 <CIA-8> 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Added php-thttpd package, evolution of thttpdphp
Apr 19 14:42:51 <rwhitby> morning all.  No-one spoke in here while I slept!
Apr 19 14:43:04 <jeanfabrice> 'morning rod
Apr 19 14:43:21 <rwhitby> hey jeanfabrice - great idea to make a new php-thttpd package
Apr 19 14:43:36 <jeanfabrice> was your ;)
Apr 19 14:44:02 <jeanfabrice> I did not touch to your Makefile part, only mine
Apr 19 14:44:29 <rwhitby> I remembered in my sleep that I removed some of the configure options in thttpdphp (cause they weren't in php-apache).  Did you notice that, and were the ones that I removed (without a lot of thought) important?
Apr 19 14:44:47 <jeanfabrice> I took your thttpdphp as source
Apr 19 14:46:06 <rwhitby> things like --disable-ctype, --disable-spl ...
Apr 19 14:47:03 <jeanfabrice> all options sound good. --disable-cli is still there
Apr 19 14:47:21 <jeanfabrice> don't know why it isn't in php-apache
Apr 19 14:48:05 <rwhitby> does it matter that --disable-ctype and --disable-spl are no longer there ?
Apr 19 14:48:37 <jeanfabrice> I don't think. I never use such function. Maybe a bit bigger footprint, no ?
Apr 19 14:49:38 <rwhitby> anyway, it should be compatible with php-apache config now.  If we need to disable anything, we will want to consider whether it is disabled in both.  I want to keep php-apache and php-thttpd in sync as far as their capabilities go.
Apr 19 14:50:40 <rwhitby> then other packages can rely on those capabilities, and run on either apache or thttpd
Apr 19 14:51:08 <jeanfabrice> well, port for wl500g still not working
Apr 19 14:53:50 <rwhitby-away> BTW, the downloading of thttpd and php can just rely on the already downloaded files from the php.mk and thttpd.mk  makefiles, and use them directly
Apr 19 14:56:16 <jeanfabrice> php patch for thttpd is specific to 2.25b/php 5.03
Apr 19 14:56:41 <rwhitby> yep, and we need to keep php and thttpd in sync with that.
Apr 19 14:57:30 <jeanfabrice> but what if php or thttpd version change... it will then breaks php-thttpd, no ?
Apr 19 14:57:31 <rwhitby> so all five packages (apache, thttpd, php, php-apache, php-thtttpd) need to be in sync at all times
Apr 19 14:57:43 <jeanfabrice> ouahou !
Apr 19 14:58:10 <rwhitby> yes, and we want it to break at compile time, so it is fixed before the new package is pushed
Apr 19 14:58:19 <jeanfabrice> :)
Apr 19 14:59:40 <rwhitby> that's for you and jp30 to coordinate :-)
Apr 19 15:00:41 <jeanfabrice> Okay. I still have a problem with php not building for wl500g (openldap wchar_t not supported on uclibc and libstdc++ not present)
Apr 19 15:00:49 <rwhitby> we should put some comments in the five files to indicate this.
Apr 19 15:01:11 <jeanfabrice> And I found the module which prevent php-thttpd to start : was dom.so
Apr 19 15:01:13 <rwhitby> (the dependency between the five packages that is)
Apr 19 15:01:42 <rwhitby> ah, thanks.
Apr 19 15:04:04 <jeanfabrice> I have commited a rc script for php-thttpd. It implements start|stop|restart. Do you have KXX script on nslu2 ?
Apr 19 15:04:29 <rwhitby> yes
Apr 19 15:04:39 <rwhitby> very few packages use it
Apr 19 15:07:43 <rwhitby> But it's the right thing to do
Apr 19 15:10:03 <rwhitby> any idea why dom doesn't work?
Apr 19 15:10:39 <jeanfabrice> no, syslog says : bind 0.0.0.0 - Address already in use
Apr 19 15:11:15 <rwhitby> I get that even with dom commented out (and things starting up)
Apr 19 15:11:30 <jeanfabrice> on your wl500 ?
Apr 19 15:12:02 <rwhitby> oh, hang on - I get a different error, not that one
Apr 19 15:12:23 <rwhitby> on my nslu2
Apr 19 15:12:49 <rwhitby> I get: thttpd[1458]: socket :: - Address family not supported by protocol
Apr 19 15:12:51 <rwhitby> all the time
Apr 19 15:14:40 <rwhitby> When I include dom, thttpd fails to start, and I only get that error I pasted (but that error occurs even when dom is commented out, so it is unrelated)
Apr 19 15:15:11 <jeanfabrice> maybe xsl.so (which I don't have)
Apr 19 15:15:29 <jeanfabrice> so you agree thttpd fails to start with dom.so ?
Apr 19 15:16:21 <rwhitby> yes
Apr 19 15:17:06 <jeanfabrice> jp30 compile mysql against libstdc++ lib and we don't have such on our wl500g. php relies on mysql. can't we have an if/then/else in php.mk for splitting staging/extension creation between nslu2/wl500g till issue are solved for wl500g
Apr 19 15:17:16 <rwhitby> dom.so is the only thing which makes it fail to start - I have everything else 
Apr 19 15:18:34 <rwhitby> so you want to leave mysql out of wl500g build?
Apr 19 15:19:06 <jeanfabrice> yep, and openldap too
Apr 19 15:19:30 <jeanfabrice> beacause if not, wl500g user will not have any php-thttpd till issues are solved
Apr 19 15:21:32 <rwhitby> we can definitely do things like that to get things to work on wl500g
Apr 19 15:22:56 <jeanfabrice> would be nice to let me (or more power user) try to solve these problems
Apr 19 15:23:58 <rwhitby> indeed.  do you know how to use ifeq and UNSLUNG_TARGET in the makefiles to do that?
Apr 19 15:24:19 <rwhitby> feel free to add such ifeq conditionals to any package to get it to compile for wl500g
Apr 19 15:24:32 <jeanfabrice> have learn, yes... :)
Apr 19 15:24:38 <rwhitby> my php-thttpd just build for wl500g
Apr 19 15:24:49 <rwhitby> s/build/built/
Apr 19 15:25:12 <jeanfabrice> but it will need php...
Apr 19 15:26:17 <jeanfabrice> php-thttpd have been upload to the wl500g feeds but I will demote it until I fix php packages with ifeq
Apr 19 15:26:46 <rwhitby> when you it will need php, are you referring to the php that php-thttpd builds, or the php.mk package?
Apr 19 15:27:26 <jeanfabrice> php-thttpd builds depends on php.mk, no ? That's how I did it
Apr 19 15:27:32 <rwhitby> we can even disable the dom package in the php.ini in php.mk until we sort that out too.  just use a conditional around a sed -i -e ...
Apr 19 15:28:29 <jeanfabrice> don't know anthing about sed for now
Apr 19 15:28:33 <rwhitby> depends at runtime, right?  not at compile time
Apr 19 15:28:44 <jeanfabrice> at install time I mean, sorry
Apr 19 15:28:57 <rwhitby> ok, I can do the sed to make sure that the php.ini that php.mk installs on wl500gx does not include dom
Apr 19 15:30:02 <jeanfabrice> openldap & mysql needs to be disable too for wl500g user
Apr 19 15:32:01 <rwhitby> in the php.ini ?
Apr 19 15:32:44 <jeanfabrice> yes, as they are loaded by default and my (future) patch on php.mk will not create them. 
Apr 19 15:32:51 <jeanfabrice> hum, anyway
Apr 19 15:33:15 <jeanfabrice> let them in php.ini, they will fail loading, with startup error, no more
Apr 19 15:33:24 <rwhitby> ok, you patch to not create them will also stop them putting the ini file in /opt/etc/php.d, so that won't be a problem.
Apr 19 15:33:46 <jeanfabrice> btw, what is /opt/etc/php.d ??
Apr 19 15:34:31 <rwhitby> a directory where extensions can put additional bits for php.ini
Apr 19 15:34:46 <rwhitby> like /opt/etc/xinet.d and /opt/etc/cron.d
Apr 19 15:34:52 <dr_nick> hi
Apr 19 15:35:01 <jeanfabrice> okay. is it created by php ?
Apr 19 15:35:18 <rwhitby> we try and do that as much as possible, so new extensions do not necessarily need to be added to php.mk directly.
Apr 19 15:35:42 <rwhitby> it is used by php - any package (at the moment, just php.mk) can install .ini files there.
Apr 19 15:35:52 <rwhitby> bbiab
Apr 19 15:37:16 <CIA-8> 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/Makefile: Demote php-thttpd for wl500g : waiting for patches
Apr 19 15:38:27 <jeanfabrice> have to leave for bed now.
Apr 19 15:38:41 <jeanfabrice> thank you rod, see u latr.
Apr 19 15:38:53 <rwhitby> bye
Apr 19 15:52:33 <rwhitby> ok, I've made php-thttpd install a modified version of the php.ini from php.mk
Apr 19 15:52:48 <rwhitby> since php will be installed first, then php-thttpd will overwrite it correctly.
Apr 19 15:55:42 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/php-thttpd.mk: Now installs a modified version of php.ini from php.mk's source dir. We need to comment out dom for the thttpd build. Don't know why yet, but the thttpd process will not start if it is included.
Apr 19 18:15:32 <rwhitby-web> [g2]: any update on click-through?
Apr 19 18:28:45 <rwhitby-web> jacques: which vantec usb enclosure do you have?  I'm looking for a new 3.5" enclosure to put an 80Gb disk on mediaslug.
Apr 19 18:31:04 <jacques> rwhitby-web, I have a 2.5" vantec, my 3.5" is another brand
Apr 19 18:31:26 <jacques> I know vantec makes a 3.5" version of its nexstar enclosure tho
Apr 19 18:31:33 <jacques> but I can't vouch for it
Apr 19 18:35:36 <rwhitby-web> I'm looking at the NST-355U2
Apr 19 18:36:28 <novacane> rwhitby: I have a Vantec NST-350U, it works fine
Apr 19 18:37:20 <novacane> nst-350u2 that is
Apr 19 18:38:28 <rwhitby-web> yeah, I'm wondering whether the difference between the 350 and the 355 is just the casing, or whether they have made a chipset change
Apr 19 18:40:27 <jacques> as we know, sometimes they change the chipset without even changing the model number
Apr 19 18:42:38 <rwhitby-web> check this little gadget out: http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=neASwl530g
Apr 19 18:43:06 <rwhitby-web> I expect that will run Oleg's wl500g firmware ...
Apr 19 18:44:05 <jacques> oh that's cute
Apr 19 18:46:42 <rwhitby-web> another gadget: http://www.gennetworks.com/pro_gen01.htm
Apr 19 18:47:52 <rwhitby-web> usb and lan on a hard disk enclosure
Apr 19 18:48:05 <rwhitby-web> plug a second one onto the lan, and they can automatically mirror
Apr 19 18:51:14 <jacques> are all these running linux ?
Apr 19 18:52:40 <rwhitby-web> the wl530g has gpl download apparently.  dunno about the gendisk
Apr 19 18:55:12 <jacques> I wonder what the hardware specs on the wl530g are
Apr 19 18:55:18 <jacques> it sure is compact-looking
Apr 19 18:58:59 <rwhitby-web> http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=WL-530g&Type=Latest&SLanguage=en-us
Apr 19 18:59:29 <rwhitby-web> GPL source: http://www.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-530g/GPL_1825.zip
Apr 19 19:38:04 <rwhitby-web> vantac have v3 cases now: http://au.store.yahoo.com/davidandkarma/vannex3usalo.html
Apr 19 19:42:54 <jacques> heh I don't think mine is even a v2
Apr 19 19:51:09 <rwhitby-web> the v3's look pretty swish
Apr 19 19:52:36 <jacques> yes, they have an "attractive blue LED"
Apr 19 20:02:20 <rwhitby-web> the rounded top makes it look a bit like the slug
Apr 19 20:11:26 <rwhitby-web> the only choice now is "which colour" :-)
Apr 19 20:22:11 <Christopher> anyone here?
Apr 19 20:23:27 <jacques> hi Christopher where ya been?  :-)
Apr 19 20:25:22 <Christopher> school caught up with me that last term
Apr 19 20:25:48 <Christopher> just started getting back into the slug a little this week
Apr 19 20:25:57 <Christopher> installed apache and mysql
Apr 19 20:29:40 <Christopher> also installed webmin, it works nicely with the slug, but a little slow
Apr 19 21:06:56 <jacques> heh, apache and mysql are probably the reason for the slowness
Apr 19 21:07:31 <Christopher> yeah
Apr 19 21:12:34 <jacques> now if you had a fatslug...   :-)
Apr 19 21:16:09 <Christopher> i know, either that, or one for mysql and one for apache
Apr 19 21:16:16 <Christopher> : )
Apr 19 21:16:49 <jacques> heh
Apr 19 21:16:59 <jacques> no reason why that wouldn't work
Apr 19 21:18:26 <Christopher> yeah, i've been thinking  about getting a second one
Apr 19 21:21:27 <jacques> I've been thinking about getting a third and fourth one
Apr 19 21:21:57 <jacques> "stable unslung and openslug" and "testing/unstable unslung and openslug"
Apr 19 21:24:03 <Christopher> yeah, i haven't been able to find one for cheaper than I got my first though
Apr 19 21:24:47 <jacques> yeah they are holding price really well
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