**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 23 23:59:56 2005 Jun 24 03:03:07 morning Jun 24 03:17:24 mount: Mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/disk1 failed: No such device Jun 24 03:17:35 why i cannot mount my disk with openslug? Jun 24 03:17:47 the disk is there, i see it with fdisk /dev/sda Jun 24 03:19:19 does /mnt/disk1 exist? Jun 24 03:21:05 yes Jun 24 03:21:13 perhaps ext3 support is missing Jun 24 03:24:03 will be compiled as module but i cannot find it in my image Jun 24 03:27:48 oh, i need to install the ext3 modules with ipkg Jun 24 03:28:52 how is openslug working with a installed disk (the same like unsling with unslung)? Jun 24 03:29:06 is there a description about any step like unsling? Jun 24 03:29:38 openslug uses turnup Jun 24 03:31:47 ok, which filesystem is the default if i use an external disk? jffs or ext3? Jun 24 03:32:38 Don't think there is any default. You choose which fs. I'm using ext3 Jun 24 03:33:00 openslug is more bare-metal than unslung Jun 24 03:33:06 and ... what would be the best solution, use a usb-stick as system drive and the disks as storage? Jun 24 03:33:31 because i dont want access every few minutes on my disks Jun 24 03:33:45 because they should shutdown after 30 minutes Jun 24 03:33:51 ah.. ok Jun 24 03:34:09 Then a usb-stick as a system drive would be nice, and use the disks as storage Jun 24 03:34:36 and how i can be sure that my disks will be always the same device, means if i connect my disk1 then it should always be sda even if i connect it after disk2 Jun 24 03:35:29 That's one thing you can't do in openslug (afaik). I think linksys has done some patch magic with the original firmware there. Jun 24 03:35:59 But if you use the usb stick as system disk, will you ever remove it? Jun 24 03:36:33 there was talk of using uuid's but someone needs to actually do it Jun 24 03:36:58 yeah, it'd be useful Jun 24 03:37:10 isn't that the sort of thing udev does? Jun 24 03:37:12 no, i think it will be there all the time but i want to be sure, that it will be the same device all the time, if i use two disks and plug them off and on again, and the system will change the device then my samba shares will not work again Jun 24 03:38:05 jacques, I'm not sure how udev gets the information; but esentially yes. Jun 24 03:38:44 jacques: yes Jun 24 03:38:55 but then i need to build a new firmware with udev included? Jun 24 03:39:07 udevinfo -a -p /sys/block/sdb/sdb1 <-- gets the necessary info Jun 24 03:40:20 Is udev in openslug already? Jun 24 03:40:31 no i dont think so Jun 24 03:40:45 there was a fuss about that a while ago Jun 24 03:40:48 i built my firmware yesterday and it's not in there Jun 24 03:41:04 I think it actually uses serial numbers Jun 24 03:41:54 jacques: http://resolute.ucsd.edu/diwaker/articles/howtos/howto-usb-automount.html <-- That (if correct) helps a lot Jun 24 03:42:55 dyoung: There's nothing on the mailinglist? (My archive of 2000 mails) Jun 24 03:43:11 the fuss was in here. Jun 24 03:43:37 aha Jun 24 03:43:38 it was probably 2+ months ago Jun 24 03:43:55 Nail, are you using the Master Makefile? Jun 24 03:44:01 i would build a new firmware with udev support Jun 24 03:44:15 dyoung: yes Jun 24 03:44:22 NAiL, is it working for you now? Jun 24 03:44:25 mr_claus: I think I'm going to try that RSN Jun 24 03:44:31 dyoung: seems like it Jun 24 03:44:35 Okay cool. Jun 24 03:44:38 doing cvs co atm Jun 24 03:44:45 we've been tweaking it all day. Jun 24 03:44:50 i should change meta/openslug-image.bb? Jun 24 03:45:01 mine's downloading bzflag now Jun 24 03:45:23 mr_claus: to change the kernel config? No, it's in linux/nslu2something Jun 24 03:45:26 and IPKG_INSTALL? enhance with udev? Jun 24 03:45:35 Mine been chugging along on crosstool for... like a while. Jun 24 03:45:42 but i need to include the udev package too? Jun 24 03:46:01 mr_claus: Yeah, that you do in openslug-image Jun 24 03:46:15 or... Jun 24 03:46:19 um... Jun 24 03:46:50 why dont you just put it in your local.conf ? Jun 24 03:48:13 dyoung: building m4. It works ;) Jun 24 03:51:50 dyoung: Remember any reasons why not to use udev? Jun 24 03:52:11 For some reason I remember it was busted on nslu2 for some reason. Jun 24 03:52:33 aha Jun 24 03:52:37 like it was there but wanst being used Jun 24 03:52:42 or it wasnt enabled right or something Jun 24 03:52:54 Ok, I'll take a look at it Jun 24 03:53:18 [g2] probably knows. Jun 24 03:55:23 ta-da ;) Jun 24 03:55:29 <[g2]> udev ? Jun 24 03:55:38 yeah Jun 24 03:55:52 <[g2]> I think we just didn't start the daemon iirc Jun 24 03:55:58 how to include in local.conf? Jun 24 03:56:24 and i didn't find a udev config in my defconfig Jun 24 03:56:26 [g2]: the daemon builds? Jun 24 03:56:46 OPENSLUG_EXTRA_DEPENDS += "name_of_udev_package" Jun 24 03:56:55 NAiL: your sure thats a kernel config? Jun 24 03:56:57 <[g2]> I think it's like samba was... just conf issue Jun 24 03:57:15 <[g2]> and nobody was really using it except for VoodooZ_Log Jun 24 03:57:50 OPENSLUG_EXTRA_RDEPENDS += "name_of_udev_package" I mean. Jun 24 03:58:07 I will be using it, I just haven't gotten that far yet Jun 24 03:58:45 It's a neat feature when you've got several disks/flashsticks Jun 24 03:58:51 dyoung: RDEPENDS is not in openslug-image used Jun 24 03:59:13 huh? Jun 24 04:00:57 OPENSLUG_EXTRA_INSTALL += kernel-module-ext3 Jun 24 04:01:08 Would it be an idea to make turnup make a rule in udev.conf (or whatever the conf file was), so that we're sure we're trying to boot from the right disk? Jun 24 04:01:09 if i use that in local.conf will the driver be in the firmware then? Jun 24 04:02:44 No. I said OPENSLUG_EXTRA_RDEPENDS += "name_of_udev_package" Jun 24 04:03:12 Thats what works for me. Jun 24 04:04:53 I think you might be confused. You probably want to look at conf/distro/openslug.conf Jun 24 04:06:17 ok, i see Jun 24 04:06:57 hi Jun 24 04:07:57 hi Jun 24 04:09:05 [g2]: Mind if I assign the two samba bugs to myself? Jun 24 04:11:34 new photo of Slug-Central: http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/slug-central/IMGP4012 Jun 24 04:13:22 i just installed openslug for the first time. really, nice work. there's just one thing i don't know how to solve. i'm using a usb stick (512MB) as root (sda). as soon as i boot with my hard drive plugged in as well, the hdd is called sda and the usb stick sdb. Jun 24 04:13:27 * NAiL notes that rwhitby has more slugs than him Jun 24 04:14:00 :) Jun 24 04:14:01 * NAiL also notes that dr_nick could use udev support :P Jun 24 04:14:05 i wanted to be able to boot with and without hdd attached. is it possible to influence which drive gets sda / sdb? Jun 24 04:14:33 hehe, same topic here Jun 24 04:15:01 hmmm Jun 24 04:16:18 dr_nick: Does it make a difference what port you have the two plugged in? Jun 24 04:16:29 so now that my usb stick is hdb, can i call turnup again using hdb (without -i) and it'll boot from there? Jun 24 04:16:34 it cannot find package udev, should i use udev-version instead? Jun 24 04:17:23 NAiL: don't know. right now the hdd is in usb2, the flash in usb1 Jun 24 04:17:32 NAiL: but i can try to switch them.. Jun 24 04:17:55 dr_nick: Do so. I've never tried, so I don't know if it affects antything. But it might change the order linux detects them Jun 24 04:19:12 ok, rebooting right now Jun 24 04:19:31 bb udev worked Jun 24 04:19:38 hmm, i just found out that the memory stick was in 2, the disk in 1 Jun 24 04:19:49 but bb openslug-image didn't work Jun 24 04:21:06 after running "bb udev" the command "bb openslug-image" worked too Jun 24 04:21:33 i think there is a missing depends in my config, which one it is? Jun 24 04:22:33 NAiL: wow, that changed the order they're recognized. seems as if the device plugged into "disk 1" will (always?) be sda Jun 24 04:22:58 now my usb flash is root again Jun 24 04:23:13 dr_nick: Quite possibly yes. Now it shouldn't matter if you boot with the hdd attached or not Jun 24 04:23:35 that's nice Jun 24 04:26:48 * NAiL tries to install udev Jun 24 04:27:52 * mr_claus tries to install it too Jun 24 04:28:27 * NAiL crosses fingers Jun 24 04:28:37 * dyoung ducks Jun 24 04:29:00 uh.. was it shutdown or reboot that didn't work? Jun 24 04:29:08 reboot Jun 24 04:29:10 reboot worked now, atleast Jun 24 04:29:12 :D Jun 24 04:29:24 Actually, it has worked the three last times Jun 24 04:30:09 maybe /me is just lucky ;) Jun 24 04:30:38 or not Jun 24 04:30:48 NAiL, you are rebooting openslug when booted to an external disk and it's not hanging? Jun 24 04:31:03 jacques: Twice the last 24hrs Jun 24 04:31:22 I think it might be hanging now, but that's probably because of udev ;) Jun 24 04:31:57 ie, it's not finishing booting Jun 24 04:32:37 Yup, "kindabricked" Jun 24 04:32:57 Gotta install netconsole so I can see what's happening Jun 24 04:37:07 <[g2]> NAiL, we like self starters Jun 24 04:37:37 You're talking about me? Jun 24 04:37:51 NAiL, you need serial dude. Jun 24 04:37:52 ooh... the time is 1337 here :P Jun 24 04:37:59 dyoung: Yes, soon :D Jun 24 04:38:03 <[g2]> re: [g2]: Mind if I assign the two samba bugs to myself? Jun 24 04:38:39 ah Jun 24 04:39:51 <[g2]> dr_nick, mr_claus re: multiple devices, Are you guys running ext3 by chance ? Jun 24 04:40:01 * mr_claus installed the new builded firmware with udev support and can login with ssh Jun 24 04:40:12 <[g2]> congrats! Jun 24 04:40:18 mr_claus: Brilliant Jun 24 04:40:25 It's more than I managed :P Jun 24 04:40:32 <[g2]> new from yesterday or new from a couple days ago Jun 24 04:40:41 [g2]: usb stick ext2, hdd ext3 Jun 24 04:40:57 the ext2/3 drivers should be included in the firmware by default i think Jun 24 04:41:32 <[g2]> dr_nick, about 8-9 months ago I played with the label option on the mount Jun 24 04:41:49 <[g2]> it worked for ext3 on the desktop and I'd guess ext2 Jun 24 04:42:01 <[g2]> with that you could mount by label Jun 24 04:42:01 the box booted but the "ready system" is orange flashing Jun 24 04:42:42 mr_claus: You could still login by ssh? I couldn't. Jun 24 04:42:49 yes Jun 24 04:43:00 It's hung somewhere in the initscripts probably? Jun 24 04:43:19 <[g2]> then your hd and flash stick would be mounted specifically on certain drives Jun 24 04:44:07 i didn't change anything in the build system, only the OPENSLUG_EXTRA_RDEPENDS += "udev kernel-module-ext3" in my local.conf Jun 24 04:44:17 <[g2]> e.g. flash stick could always be /mnt/sdb1 even if it was /dev/sda1 Jun 24 04:44:26 mr_claus: Yeah, but then udev didn't get built automatically, did it? Jun 24 04:44:56 <[g2]> mr_claus, It got built but not necessarily started Jun 24 04:45:06 NAiL: no, that was the error i described before, i solved it with running "bb udev" before "bb openslug-image" Jun 24 04:45:17 hmmm Jun 24 04:45:31 hi all Jun 24 04:45:38 yup, serial would've been nice right about now :P Jun 24 04:45:56 anyone with experience in running ipkg-cl in offline mode? Jun 24 04:45:57 hey hanjo Jun 24 04:46:12 not me Jun 24 04:47:06 I am trying to find a way to process the postinstall scripts after they are deffered during a offline install Jun 24 04:47:13 NAiL: i think the OPENSLUG_EXTRA_RDEPENDS handle only that the module goes into the firmware Jun 24 04:47:27 NAiL: but it doesn't handle the automatic build of the module Jun 24 04:47:37 hanjo: is that ipkg configure? Jun 24 04:48:10 mr_claus: have you read the OE doco? Jun 24 04:48:28 rwhitby: the configure step is performed during an offline install, only the postinstall steps are skipped. Or I did not understand your question? Jun 24 04:48:31 nice, udev is working well, plugged in my disk and the devices were created Jun 24 04:49:00 rwhitby: i tried to read it but it was a lot of things and i didn't understand all things Jun 24 04:49:24 mr_claus: But still blinking orange? Jun 24 04:49:30 NAiL: yes Jun 24 04:49:31 hanjo: just putting forward ideas. I have no idea about offline :-) Jun 24 04:49:49 mr_claus: I was reading through the logs, and saw your problems with applying patches etc. during the OE build. Did you solve that? Jun 24 04:50:00 leds: ioctl(19749,0): failed to set leds: Bad file descriptor Jun 24 04:50:05 evening all, is there by chance an uninstall unslung script ? Jun 24 04:50:09 mr_claus: aha Jun 24 04:50:29 UnspecifiedId: nice comment on the donation :-) Jun 24 04:50:30 hanjo: yes, it was a problem with the bb-files Jun 24 04:50:31 <[g2]> mr_claus, nod Jun 24 04:50:31 heh... leds doesn't like udev. Shouldn't be that much of a hassle to fix Jun 24 04:50:39 hanjo: there was a patch which has to be done before the other ones Jun 24 04:50:47 what's wrong with this fstab entry: /dev/sdb3 swap swap defaults 0 0 ? Jun 24 04:50:52 UnspecifiedId: uninstall meaning reflash linksys firmware? Jun 24 04:50:58 hanjo: in the bb-file was the command "patcher" used instead of "patch" Jun 24 04:51:06 no, meaning remove all directories etc. of hdd Jun 24 04:51:07 hanjo: i changed it to "patch" and it worked Jun 24 04:51:09 dr_nick: Nothing, if /dev/sdb3 is a swap-partition Jun 24 04:51:13 mr_claus: Ok. Cause it sounded similar to the problems I had with a /patch subdir upstream Jun 24 04:51:47 So what is new in the openslug 2.0? Jun 24 04:51:52 have flashed 5.5 can boot to nslu2, but can't boot with HDD even after unslung Jun 24 04:51:53 NAiL: it's a swap partition from unslung. Jun 24 04:52:03 ie. I believe my HDD/unslung combo is stuffed Jun 24 04:52:28 dr_nick: You are very sure? If so, try mkswap /dev/sdb3 Jun 24 04:52:33 root@SLUG:/etc# swapon -a Jun 24 04:52:33 swapon: /dev/sdb3: Invalid argument Jun 24 04:52:51 dr_nick: yeah, stuffed up swap is my guess Jun 24 04:53:01 UnspecifiedId: do you have data on the disk that you need to save? Jun 24 04:53:11 NAiL: you think leds is not working with udev? Jun 24 04:53:20 /dev/sdb3 14590 14596 56227+ 82 Linux swap Jun 24 04:53:20 yes, unfortunately Jun 24 04:53:23 [g2]: bb-files are correct? Jun 24 04:53:25 300+Gb Jun 24 04:53:31 UnspecifiedId: let's take this to #nslu-general Jun 24 04:53:34 photos, tvseries etc. Jun 24 04:53:36 np Jun 24 04:53:49 mr_claus: The leds device(s) aren't created automatically. Shouldn't be a problem to use mknod to create them before setting stuff Jun 24 04:54:01 make that #nslu2-general Jun 24 04:54:27 NAiL: do you know the devices which should be created? Jun 24 04:54:48 NAiL: thanks, swap works now Jun 24 04:54:49 mr_claus: It's somewhere on the wiki Jun 24 04:54:52 dr_nick: np Jun 24 04:54:55 NAiL: ok Jun 24 04:55:06 mr_claus: Tell me when you find it ;) Jun 24 04:55:27 NAiL: i will do my best :) Jun 24 04:57:24 <[g2]> ls -l /dev/leds Jun 24 04:57:24 <[g2]> crw-rw---- 1 root root 126, 0 Jun 17 12:41 /dev/leds Jun 24 04:57:24 <[g2]> root@apex:~/perl-5.8.7# Jun 24 04:57:47 mknod c 126 0 /dev/leds ? Jun 24 04:57:52 <[g2]> yes Jun 24 04:57:59 ty Jun 24 04:58:31 <[g2]> actually there should be a udev handler somewhere Jun 24 04:58:37 huh? Jun 24 04:58:40 handler? Jun 24 04:59:02 <[g2]> we talked about this a little many months ago Jun 24 04:59:04 mmh, this is weird: if i do "mount -a" multiple times, it will add mounts, so the list gets longer every time Jun 24 04:59:07 tmpfs on /var type tmpfs (rw) Jun 24 04:59:09 tmpfs on /media/ram type tmpfs (rw) Jun 24 04:59:33 <[g2]> kergoth's assertion and I believe him was that the kobject should automatically created that device Jun 24 04:59:44 arglll, its /dev/leds but i cannot find how to create the device Jun 24 04:59:51 aaah, yes, in the kernel Jun 24 04:59:52 ahh, i see Jun 24 05:00:11 these two are mounted three times here. bug? from my desktop/server machines i'm used to do "mount -a" and have all partitions from fstab mounted if they aren't already Jun 24 05:00:33 [g2]: I don't know anything about that part ;) Jun 24 05:10:12 Isn't the udev kernel parameter required anymore, btw? Jun 24 05:12:31 <[g2]> NAiL, dunno Jun 24 05:12:41 <[g2]> I never got to play with udev much Jun 24 05:21:05 hmm, is there any partition-resizing tools available on openslug? Jun 24 05:52:46 now udev has to learn to create /dev/leds automaticly, have anybody experience with such things? Jun 24 06:22:22 <[g2]> I think and alien has taken over kergoth -- it's way too early for him to be up Jun 24 06:22:30 <[g2]> s/and/an/ Jun 24 06:24:10 Announcement. We have just met the USD$1800 donation drive target :-) Jun 24 06:35:33 anybody know where is the driver which will be used from device /dev/leds? Jun 24 06:47:28 <[g2]> mr_claus, see openslug-kernel the patches are in nslu2-io.c iirc Jun 24 06:49:07 [g2]: yes, i see, the driver will use register_chrdev to register with the kernel Jun 24 06:49:49 [g2]-away: now i have to find out, if udev can create a device with any ruleset Jun 24 07:37:27 anybody know where i can find docs about registering a driver to sysfs? Jun 24 07:37:34 it's a function called class_simple_device_add Jun 24 07:38:50 Read another driver that uses it Jun 24 07:40:33 yes i know that but perhaps there is documentation available too Jun 24 07:40:54 That is usually the best documentation Jun 24 07:40:55 but it seems to be not very hard in include that support Jun 24 08:52:57 can anybody take a look into /dev if there are devices with major 60/61/62? Jun 24 08:53:18 60 should be the reset button, 61 the power button and 62 the beeper Jun 24 08:57:20 the led driver is now udev approved, now a final question, should i create the name "leds" or use "l2_ledm" and use an udev-rule to link it to "leds"? Jun 24 08:57:25 what would be better? Jun 24 10:22:24 insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.11.2/kernel/drivers/net/netconsole.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module Jun 24 10:22:31 yay... Jun 24 10:24:58 NAiL: why it's not working at your system? Jun 24 10:25:18 NAiL: did you install udev or did you compile a new firmware? Jun 24 10:25:38 I tried installing udev on my current firmware. That did not work. Jun 24 10:26:00 It actually made my slug choke. And now I can't find out why it's not working. Removing udev from startup doesn't help. Jun 24 10:26:35 NAiL: perhaps it's not a udev related issue Jun 24 10:27:02 quite possibly Jun 24 10:27:34 mr_claus: I'm gonna build a new firmware with udev. Do you have a patch for the kernel? Jun 24 10:27:46 there is no patch needed Jun 24 10:27:51 udev is only in userspace Jun 24 10:28:02 for creating the leds device? Jun 24 10:28:11 udev look at sysfs and create the devices dynamic Jun 24 10:28:34 NAiL: i have a patch for the led device but it's not finished yet because there are more devices needed Jun 24 10:28:49 ok, I'll wait then :) Jun 24 10:29:09 hmm, the patch is a problem because if there is no udev installed the kernel don't boot Jun 24 10:29:28 hmm, must be another problem Jun 24 10:29:39 mr_claus: didn't cron compile on your end? Worked like a charm here. But I can't test it Jun 24 10:29:57 NAiL: it compiled but the install step was not working Jun 24 10:30:05 NAiL: like i described at the mailing list Jun 24 10:30:56 ups, now nslu2 is working, needed some time Jun 24 10:32:12 llagendijk: Are you running SuSE? Jun 24 10:32:32 hrhr, the MAJOR=62 is called buzzer Jun 24 10:32:45 NAiL, no, Fedora 3 Jun 24 10:33:13 NAiL, why do you need to know? Jun 24 10:34:11 llagendijk: Just wondering. I know SuSE's tar doesn't recongnize the --format option. Apparently, neither does FC3's Jun 24 10:41:15 NAiL, thanks, I will look into a proper solution. I just need to find out why the format option is there and what is does. Jun 24 10:41:33 I will try to google around later, need to go out for now Jun 24 10:41:50 Anyhow: thanks for the help Jun 24 10:41:53 cu Jun 24 10:42:09 NAiL: last check, if it will be running then i will send you the patch Jun 24 10:43:42 mr_claus: Brilliant :D Jun 24 10:44:45 did you see the author here in the past? it's Karen Spearel Jun 24 10:45:02 perhaps called kas11 Jun 24 10:45:18 Saw her in wrt54g a long time ago Jun 24 10:45:39 (I think) Jun 24 10:47:20 hmm, ok, i will send her an email with the patch if its working Jun 24 10:48:46 good :) Jun 24 10:50:54 hmm, if i switch off my box then it seems that there is no shutdown, it goes off without ending the jobs/services Jun 24 10:51:12 The full set of devices are in /etc/device_table.txt. There were some device number clashes (with a Sharp device I think.) Jun 24 10:52:22 jbowler: you mean the devices of the nslu2? Jun 24 10:53:06 jbowler: the /dev/leds, /dev/buzzer, /dev/pbuttons, /dev/rbuttons? are there more devices? Jun 24 10:53:39 Yes, /etc/device_table.txt contains all the NSLU2 devices, but it may also contain spurious stuff for other OE systems. Jun 24 10:53:59 Those are the only four 'non-standard' devices. Jun 24 10:54:32 jbowler: ok, i will see if that four devices are working with sysfs now Jun 24 11:02:40 mr_claus: kas11 was last online about a week ago, btw Jun 24 11:03:53 man... boost takes ages to compile Jun 24 11:04:05 NAiL: hehe Jun 24 11:06:07 boost: for NSLU2? Jun 24 11:07:30 jbowler: No, for my local build machine. I'm gonna set up monotone on it Jun 24 11:07:38 NAiL: hmm, no more time yet, it's running but i have to do more testing with the other three devices, where i should send the patch? Jun 24 11:07:57 send it to oyvind@repvik.org Jun 24 11:09:28 NAiL: ok, sent Jun 24 11:09:29 bbl Jun 24 11:09:33 cu Jun 24 11:09:42 I need a third slug... Jun 24 11:10:13 I do too, my file server is getting SCSI errors (Maxtor)... waiting for [g2] to have slugs with JTAG ;-) Jun 24 11:10:52 hehe Jun 24 11:11:30 Actually, I need like... three or four new slugs actually Jun 24 11:13:17 Have you seen the SlugArmy recruiting sergeant recently? Jun 24 11:13:31 bbl Jun 24 11:14:04 I *am* the recruiting seargant :P Jun 24 11:27:38 Hmm.. why am I asked for root@cvs.sf.net's passwd when running make? Jun 24 13:23:20 NAil: It is only Suse 9.1 and earlier that have a problem with --format in tar. As I noted in the WiKi yesterday it is actually possible to just take the rpm from 9.2 and install it in 9.1 and --format is then supported. Jun 24 13:26:05 AdamBaker: Ah, haven't seen that yet Jun 24 13:26:25 I'm not using SuSE myself Jun 24 13:27:56 NAiL: back, but only a few minutes, it's working for you? Jun 24 13:28:28 I'm not finished building yet Jun 24 13:28:36 ok :) Jun 24 13:28:37 A quick check of the Fedora archives reveals that FC3 should have the right version of tar, but Fc2 doesn't Jun 24 13:29:16 mr_claus: I'm probably going to bed soon. Sleep for a few hours, then check the patch Jun 24 13:29:36 I hate being sick. Can't sleep even 3 hours straight Jun 24 13:29:59 Of course, it gives me a lot of time to work on openslug ;) Jun 24 14:12:16 [g2] :) Jun 24 14:12:56 <[g2]> Hey NAiL Jun 24 14:15:35 Do you know who I have to bug to get write access to monotone? Jun 24 14:18:49 <[g2]> NAiL, the monotone stuff is real green right now it's all in testing Jun 24 14:19:26 <[g2]> did OE commit to monotone ? Jun 24 14:19:39 No, not yet. They're giving it a day. Jun 24 14:19:46 So they'll probably commit tomorrow Jun 24 14:20:30 But it looks like most people agree Jun 24 14:20:41 <[g2]> I think it might take a little while to get the process all settled out Jun 24 14:21:09 <[g2]> right now I think ppl are adapting and just trying to manage the conversion Jun 24 14:21:59 ok Jun 24 14:41:32 <[g2]> any nfs'ers out there ? Jun 24 14:41:53 <[g2]> 192.168.123.166:/var/www/localhost /mnt/nfs nfs rw,v3,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,hard,tcp,lock,addr=192.168.123.166 0 0 Jun 24 14:41:53 <[g2]> root@apex:~# touch /mnt/nfs/foo Jun 24 14:41:53 <[g2]> touch: cannot touch `/mnt/nfs/foo': Permission denied Jun 24 14:42:11 <[g2]> I can read but can't write Jun 24 14:42:30 [g2]: do you mean NFS developers or users - I use it but it just worked so I haven't touched the code Jun 24 14:42:45 <[g2]> openslug nfs users Jun 24 14:42:59 <[g2]> I'm sure it's a perms thing on the nfs server Jun 24 14:43:10 <[g2]> it's worked before Jun 24 14:43:11 Sorry, I'm on unslung Jun 24 14:43:16 <[g2]> np Jun 24 14:43:29 showmount -e 192.168.123.166 Jun 24 14:43:47 <[g2]> showmount -e 192.168.123.166 Jun 24 14:43:47 <[g2]> Export list for 192.168.123.166: Jun 24 14:43:47 <[g2]> /var/www/localhost 192.168.123.117 Jun 24 14:44:09 it doesnt tell you if its ro or rw? Jun 24 14:44:18 this isn't the issue of root access being denied by default is it? Jun 24 14:44:23 <[g2]> apparently now :) Jun 24 14:44:25 <[g2]> apparently not :) Jun 24 14:44:38 are you exporting with no_root_squash ? Jun 24 14:44:48 <[g2]> no Jun 24 14:45:02 <[g2]> that might be the option I needed Jun 24 14:45:09 root is mapped to nobody without that option Jun 24 14:45:13 <[g2]> but I typed nosquashfs Jun 24 14:46:18 <[g2]> touch /mnt/nfs/foo Jun 24 14:46:18 <[g2]> root@apex:~# Jun 24 14:46:27 <[g2]> dyoung, is MY HERO again! Jun 24 14:46:28 <[g2]> THX Jun 24 14:46:35 np. Jun 24 14:47:01 hehe "nosquashfs" :-) Jun 24 15:51:36 I've got a strange error here, anyone able to offer an explanation Jun 24 15:51:48 ipkg install packages/coreutils_5.2.1-8_armeb.ipk Jun 24 15:51:48 Installing coreutils (5.2.1-8) to root... Jun 24 15:51:48 ERROR: The following packages conflict with coreutils: Jun 24 15:51:48 busybox Jun 24 15:52:21 ipkg list_installed | grep busybox shows nothing Jun 24 15:54:43 It installs fine with -force-depends but I don't want to check in the hopefully unrelated changes I've made to coreutils if it is somehow broken Jun 24 15:55:03 ok, the Master Makefile has just been announced on the nslu2-linux mailing list Jun 24 15:55:17 Any changes since earlier today? Jun 24 15:56:03 dunno - who's "today" are you talking about? :-) Jun 24 15:56:17 Hmm... last 12-14 hours then ;) Jun 24 15:56:34 (it's 8:26am here, so not much has been done "today" :-) Jun 24 15:57:02 hehe, ok. I last fetched it five hours ago Jun 24 15:57:29 But... when running make, I eventually get asked for the passord for root@cvs.sf.net... Might confuse a few people? ;) Jun 24 15:58:11 yeah, but it falls back to pserver. that's one thing we need to fix. Can you create a HowTo/UseTheMasterMakefile wiki page to document the known issues? Jun 24 15:58:29 Wait, youre building as root? Jun 24 15:58:38 Are there any more issues? Jun 24 15:58:53 dyoung: *cough* yes, I know I shouldn't :P Jun 24 15:59:14 Optware needs to be split into two or three somehow (Optware/Unslung, Optware/Wiley, and maybe Optware/OpenSlug) Jun 24 15:59:31 but that's a job for jp30 and jeanfabrice to have input into Jun 24 16:00:08 back later. remember, the Master Makefile is *bleeding* edge :-) Jun 24 16:00:18 if someone knows how to set the CVS username via env variable, that might be worth documenting too. Jun 24 16:01:17 yeah, that's another known issue which needs to be solved. Jun 24 16:08:48 03aabaker * 10unslung/make/coreutils.mk: Jun 24 16:08:48 remove hostname as a better version is supplied with net-tools and this Jun 24 16:08:48 version is no better than the Linksys busybox one. Bump ipk rev. Jun 24 16:19:31 Initial page up: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheMasterMakefile Jun 24 16:20:45 03aabaker * 10unslung/Makefile: net-tools package added and coreutils updated to not install hostname so it doesn't conflict Jun 24 16:37:47 NAiL: thx Jun 24 16:37:55 rwhitby-away: np Jun 24 17:08:24 mr_claus: Going to flash now. Patch applied and udev built. :D Jun 24 17:45:29 mr_claus: ping?? Jun 24 17:46:39 mr_claus: udev works fine and dandy while booting to flash. When booting to sda1 however, it never gets far enough to reply to ping. Jun 24 20:02:21 nail, I added a file footest in the monotone branch; sync'd and it seemed to take it. Jun 24 20:02:41 yeah, it just doesn't seem to like me :P Jun 24 20:03:23 what file were you working on; and what will be a telltale sign that its the one that you recently commited? Jun 24 20:05:04 be nice of the log was more detailed Jun 24 20:05:10 dyoung-web: packages/samba/init and packages/samba/samba_3.0.14a.bb. It's just a couple of typos (eg. $sysconfigdir -> $sysconfdir). Jun 24 20:05:11 doesn't tell what was done Jun 24 20:05:42 atm, samba is b0rked Jun 24 20:05:55 did you bump the version? Jun 24 20:06:10 It strikes me that I should've. Jun 24 20:06:36 so you were fiddling stuff in EXTRA_OECONF ? Jun 24 20:07:22 dyoung-web: yup Jun 24 20:08:04 Yup, looks like it just doenst like you. Jun 24 20:08:12 * NAiL pouts Jun 24 20:08:33 you *did* sync right? Jun 24 20:08:49 sorry if I keep asking that; gotta be sure. Jun 24 20:09:09 hehe, I've tried probably 20 times Jun 24 20:10:10 what is your IP address? Jun 24 20:10:20 the one I see when doing /whois nail ? Jun 24 20:10:25 80.202.25.169 Jun 24 20:10:36 nextgentel? Jun 24 20:10:42 yeah Jun 24 20:10:55 ~slugarmy 80.202.25.169 Jun 24 20:11:52 The army isn't quite there yet. Two slugs just doesn't cut it :P Jun 24 20:12:15 Someone added your key right? Jun 24 20:12:21 yeah, I did Jun 24 20:12:35 dont wee need to add some stuff to monotonerc also? Jun 24 20:12:47 oh, yeah. :-) Jun 24 20:12:55 ~lart rwhitby-away Jun 24 20:12:55 * jbot raises middle finger to rwhitby-away Jun 24 20:13:00 :-) Jun 24 20:13:12 nail, so you cant write because we didnt let you write. :-) Jun 24 20:13:33 Duh. :P Jun 24 20:13:52 try now Jun 24 20:14:55 yay Jun 24 20:15:13 monotone: [bytes in: 28.8k] [bytes out: 9135] [revs in: 7] [revs out: 4] Jun 24 20:15:13 monotone: successful exchange with mtn.nslu2-linux.org Jun 24 20:16:18 rwhitby-away: what did you change? Jun 24 20:18:06 dyoung: changed monotonerc from false to true Jun 24 20:18:19 in the write with key routing Jun 24 20:22:18 ok, but I forgot to bump the version. How's the best way to do that? Jun 24 20:22:39 just mv; mt add? Jun 24 20:22:41 PR = r3 ? Jun 24 20:22:47 aha Jun 24 20:22:50 Re-commit it Jun 24 20:24:37 ok, there. Now samba works again ;) Jun 24 20:26:56 you sync/pushed your fix? Jun 24 20:28:25 yup Jun 24 20:28:47 I dont see it yet. Jun 24 20:29:21 07ec89b6d456e2e9e0bd70da845bdef77454b4b6 <-- that one? Jun 24 20:30:08 Thats hat heads tells me; but I dont see a change to that bb file. Jun 24 20:30:31 It's still r2? Jun 24 20:31:00 does it still have $sysconfigdir? Jun 24 20:31:05 Yes., Jun 24 20:31:16 to both? ;) Jun 24 20:31:23 yes anbd yes Jun 24 20:31:37 hmm... Jun 24 20:31:37 monotone: [bytes in: 17.7k] [bytes out: 1912] [revs in: 6] [revs out: 0] Jun 24 20:31:37 monotone: successful exchange with mtn.nslu2-linux.org Jun 24 20:31:46 No more revs waiting to be pushed Jun 24 20:32:04 you did commit it right? Jun 24 20:32:09 re-commit it Jun 24 20:33:15 fs openembedded # monotone commit packages/samba/samba_3.0.14a.bb Jun 24 20:33:15 monotone: misuse: no changes to commit Jun 24 20:33:44 try touch it first Jun 24 20:34:03 no change Jun 24 20:34:32 hmm, put a # in the file someplace then. Jun 24 20:34:33 heh Jun 24 20:36:15 monotone: committed revision 3783ac4c44f799b108df17b5007f68dffcf17d43 Jun 24 20:36:15 fs openembedded # monotone sync Jun 24 20:36:20 monotone: [bytes in: 17.9k] [bytes out: 3816] [revs in: 6] [revs out: 1] Jun 24 20:36:20 monotone: successful exchange with mtn.nslu2-linux.org Jun 24 20:38:07 --with-configdir=${sysconfigdir}/samba \ Jun 24 20:38:18 I'm totally mystified. Jun 24 20:39:01 hang on.. Jun 24 20:39:34 I started a brand new pull, with a new user. The changes are in that repo Jun 24 20:39:47 So it's just you not getting them for some reason Jun 24 20:40:49 hmm... ok, I'm not getting the latest rev yet.. but $sysconfigdir is fixed Jun 24 20:40:54 --with-configdir=${sysconfdir}/samba \ Jun 24 20:43:18 Hmm.. wonder why I'm not getting that last revision Jun 24 20:43:25 or.. the two last ones actually Jun 24 20:56:45 hmm Jun 24 20:56:50 this is just strange Jun 24 20:57:17 I'm not entirely sure whether or not it's samba or windows right now. All the folders in my shares don't have any names :P Jun 24 21:12:04 I don't get this. It's the same version samba. Same settings. Only thing changed is adding an init script and fixing the paths. But now samba is totally borked. Jun 24 21:19:09 dyoung-web: Tried removing the # I added. And synced the other users repo. The change doesn't show up... Jun 24 21:19:55 Very confusing. Jun 24 21:21:51 But.. I seem to have triggered a bug in samba. I've seen this before... Wonder what does it.. Jun 24 21:22:55 I should make a test key pair to debug this problem. Jun 24 21:45:33 I have a monotone CIA Thing-a-ma-jig. Jun 24 21:45:52 its kind of differnt than the others we've used. Jun 24 21:46:29 Need to figure out how post-commit stuffs work under mtn. Jun 24 21:46:37 otherwise will be UBE. Jun 24 21:49:01 NAiL: my mt sync has completed, if you sync now you should get revision 1cf394ad3e1b9d79090778e8eba79440642260c9 Jun 24 21:50:01 monotone: successful exchange with mtn.nslu2-linux.org Jun 24 21:50:01 fs openembedded # monotone --db=../monotone/nslu2-linux.db --branch=org.nslu2-linux.openembedded heads Jun 24 21:50:04 monotone: branch 'org.nslu2-linux.openembedded' is currently merged: Jun 24 21:50:07 5cba07aac0196e37bd9c62615603a532f135c2c4 oyvind@repvik.org 2005-06-25T03:56:28 Jun 24 21:50:25 Looks like no change to me Jun 24 21:51:24 Ok, this must be my problem. Jun 24 21:51:54 Hum, on the server: Jun 24 21:51:56 jbowler@nudi:~$ mt --branch=org.nslu2-linux.openembedded heads Jun 24 21:51:56 monotone: branch 'org.nslu2-linux.openembedded' is currently merged: Jun 24 21:51:56 1cf394ad3e1b9d79090778e8eba79440642260c9 jbowler@nslu2-linux.org 2005-06-25T04:44:37 Jun 24 21:53:09 This is really weird. Jun 24 21:53:57 I set up a separate repo to see what joe random user got. I got all my changes except the PR="r3" in the end Jun 24 21:56:02 jbowler: What will happen now if you bump the PR to r3 and sync? Jun 24 21:56:26 I have that change ;-) Jun 24 21:56:38 you do? Did you commit that one as well? Jun 24 21:56:45 No! Jun 24 21:56:57 * NAiL is utterly stumped Jun 24 21:57:03 I haven't commited any changes since the samba one you fixed. Jun 24 21:57:09 Let me check my joe user db Jun 24 21:57:39 my joe user db has 5cba07aac0196e37bd9c62615603a532f135c2c4, which does *not* include r3. Jun 24 21:57:53 That's a horribly familiar number Jun 24 21:58:14 my working repo has r3, with the same 5cba07aac0196e37bd9c62615603a532f135c2c4 Jun 24 21:58:31 * NAiL smells something burning Jun 24 21:59:54 Ah, well, my joe user db has an empty org.nslu2-linux.openembedded branch (i.e. it isn't there), because I deliberately didn't pull from the lowlands. Jun 24 22:00:25 That's part of the same problem I'm sure. Jun 24 22:01:49 btw, do you have any idea how I can add a symlink in openslug/oe-symlinks/packages? Jun 24 22:02:30 It is an SVN repo, you need svn write access. Jun 24 22:02:38 ah, ok Jun 24 22:02:58 It's not like it's anything that I need to do right now anhyways Jun 24 22:03:30 But sooner or later having a udev link there would be nice Jun 24 22:08:06 monotone: total problems detected: 6 (0 serious) Jun 24 22:08:16 6 unreferenced manifests... Jun 24 22:08:24 Dunno what that means ;) Jun 24 22:13:24 6 unreferenced manifests is important info ;-) Jun 24 22:13:55 It means that the revisions (manifests in this case) were downloaded but something deleted/didn't download the reference to them. Jun 24 22:14:19 Running the same check on my joe blow repo Jun 24 22:17:11 ok, my joe blow repo has 8 unreferenced manifests Jun 24 22:17:16 The monotone manual reference to the message is for monotone db kill_rev_locally id Jun 24 22:17:24 On page http://www.venge.net/monotone/docs/Database.html#Database Jun 24 22:19:40 unreferenced manifests that exist in the database but are not referenced by their sha1 hash from any existing revision. In itself, this only indicates some wasted space, and is not a problem; it's possible it could arise under normal use <-- doesn't sound *too* bad ;) Jun 24 22:19:57 I find this worrying. It explains the observations though - the remote database was synced, but some of the information was not incorporated. Jun 24 22:21:21 03jbowler * r53 10/trunk/openslug/nslu2-linux/packages/udev: Add udev Jun 24 22:21:32 ty :) Jun 24 22:23:12 ? : monotone trusted 1cf394ad3e1b9d79090778e8eba79440642260c9 branch org.nslu2-linux.openembedded jbowler@nslu2-linux.org Jun 24 22:23:36 nudi says it would be trusted Jun 24 22:25:23 NAiL: I'd be interested in what your monotone says (no db requires, it just checks monotonerc). Jun 24 22:26:12 how? Jun 24 22:26:34 Just enter that command (i.e. everything after the ? : ) Jun 24 22:27:45 was signed by: jbowler@nslu2-linux.org Jun 24 22:27:45 it would be: trusted Jun 24 22:28:03 Yep, ok that isn't it. Another blind alley. Jun 24 22:28:18 mr_claus_: udev works for me (tm) Jun 24 22:28:30 good morning, btw :) Jun 24 22:29:24 NAiL: It looks more and more like a bug, pure and simple (sic), I'm going to bed 'cause it has got dark here (S Oregon)... Jun 24 22:29:43 jbowler: Good night then. I'll probably go to bed soon too ;) Jun 24 22:30:01 g'nite all Jun 24 22:39:21 jbowler-zzz: Whenever you come back: Jun 24 22:39:22 monotone: not requesting forward delta 7fde6d26ea9dc33fc5c0642c3696bc2fb85146e4 -> 4c1c08ceed1b75cbfdd24d9c3b187a74efa798f0 on file packages/samba/files/init as we already have it Jun 24 22:39:26 monotone: db.fetch("SELECT id FROM 'file_deltas' WHERE id = 'fd736ca2de34a77d7df470d9a0c0e3c7173bcdc1'") Jun 24 22:39:29 monotone: not requesting forward delta 25178f51b1917b8a49dc09eedaaeb6799adb3113 -> fd736ca2de34a77d7df470d9a0c0e3c7173bcdc1 on file packages/samba/samba_3.0.14a.bb as we already have it Jun 24 22:39:33 monotone: writing delayed revision data packet for 1cf394ad3e1b9d79090778e8eba79440642260c9 Jun 24 22:39:42 I recognize that last 1c...c9 ;) Jun 24 22:43:29 Right, time to try --debug on the push to .nl I suppose. Sleep? Jun 24 22:43:54 Yep. Sleep. Good night :) Jun 24 22:57:54 morning Jun 24 22:59:07 NAiL: fine, then i will send the patch to karen Jun 24 23:00:24 mr_claus_: Gonna test it a little more, then see what other people think of it. It's not the smallest change ;) Jun 24 23:01:04 I'll push it tomorrow, probably Jun 24 23:01:06 so you guys got udev working? congrats Jun 24 23:01:23 mr_claus did all the work. Jun 24 23:01:27 NAiL: its a small patch, only creating the sysfs entries Jun 24 23:01:39 udev is creating devices with informations from sysfs Jun 24 23:02:36 having slight problems pushing stuff right now anyways, so I'll wait a bit before pushing. It seems to work just fine.. All the devices are created and work as they should. Jun 24 23:03:17 Only thing missing now is including udev-utils Jun 24 23:05:28 udev-utils? Jun 24 23:10:33 yeah, it's built as part of udev, but not included in rootfs Jun 24 23:12:22 NAiL, do you ever sleep? Jun 24 23:12:35 once in a while, yes ;) Jun 24 23:12:44 okay..just checking. Jun 24 23:15:21 I'm sick right now, so I sleep an hour here and an hour there Jun 24 23:18:56 mr_claus_: If you do mt sync, you should get the version with the patch now. Jun 24 23:19:15 If mt is in a good mood Jun 24 23:21:51 mr_claus_: Would you mind figuring out where in the initscripts it's best to kill udev on shutdown/reboot? Too sleepy to think runlevels right now. Jun 24 23:24:05 NAiL, go to bed... Jun 24 23:24:23 ka6sox-away: Soon. Got a few things to fix first ;) Jun 24 23:24:31 :) Jun 24 23:24:41 NAiL: at the moment i have the problem that the powerbutton is not working as it should work Jun 24 23:25:00 hmm.. but that didn't work before, did it? Jun 24 23:25:11 NAiL: and udev is building the binary "udevinfo" but you're right, it's not in the rootfs Jun 24 23:25:17 NAiL: i will check that now Jun 24 23:25:36 NAiL: i dont know, i started with openslug yesterday or the day before Jun 24 23:25:53 You're trying to shut down the slug by pressing the powerbutton? Jun 24 23:26:04 NAiL: yes of course, with unslung it's working Jun 24 23:26:12 I don't think that ever worked properly in openslug? Jun 24 23:26:18 it does for me Jun 24 23:26:23 oh... darn Jun 24 23:26:26 NAiL: unslung use two programs, just small programs to check whats up with the buttons Jun 24 23:26:33 with 2.0. Jun 24 23:27:34 Ok. But I'll go to bed now, and catch up on things in two-three hours Jun 24 23:28:19 NAiL: i'm off the whole day, but i try to check the udevinfo stuff out Jun 24 23:28:32 ok, thanks Jun 24 23:28:41 hmm.. looks like we've hit a gcc bug with openvpn Jun 24 23:32:07 happy hacking. I'm gonna try to sleep again ;) Jun 24 23:33:09 morning NAiL Jun 24 23:33:19 (should be sunup there. Jun 24 23:35:34 Sunup was 4-5 hours ago. It's 08:35 here Jun 24 23:35:45 I'm far north Jun 24 23:37:38 how many degrees? Jun 24 23:38:29 NAiL: nice, so the sun is only a few hours down, i love the north :) Jun 24 23:39:25 except in the dead of winter when there is only a few hours of sunshine. Jun 24 23:39:33 ka6sox-away: no idea Jun 24 23:39:44 But the sun is below the horizon for ~3.5 hrs Jun 24 23:39:45 NAiL: hmm, did you checkin with bitkeeper? Jun 24 23:39:53 mr_claus_: no, monotone Jun 24 23:40:06 NAiL: argll, so bitkeeper is no more? Jun 24 23:40:59 * mr_claus_ likes apt-get Jun 24 23:41:35 more or less... It's kinda disappearing. Jun 24 23:41:41 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheMasterMakefile <-- reat that :) Jun 24 23:41:45 read, even Jun 24 23:42:48 monotone is easy. Even I grok monotone :P Jun 24 23:45:16 hmm, could you explain what monotone is doing here? why a nslu2-linux.db? Jun 24 23:46:20 hmm, could you explain what monotone is doing here? why a nslu2-linux.db? Jun 24 23:46:51 * NAiL kinda missed a bit Jun 24 23:47:08 http://www.venge.net/monotone/ Jun 24 23:47:25 bk is ending it's free/open source license Jun 24 23:47:58 unless you want to pay $5000 per developer for each developer of nslu2-linux to continue using it Jun 24 23:48:48 ByronT: i know, i told that rwhitby last week and he talked with the OE devs then Jun 24 23:49:16 then what are you asking? Jun 24 23:50:05 i never used monotone, thats why i'm asking Jun 24 23:51:32 we're using monotone because OE is using monotone Jun 24 23:51:51 I still don't understand *what* you are asking though Jun 24 23:54:11 i think i found what i need to know Jun 24 23:59:08 hmm Jun 24 23:59:32 Why is it that OE chooses openvpn_2.0rc1 instead of openvpn_2.0? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jun 24 23:59:56 2005